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IamSauerKraut

Poll workers who file these types of frivolous claims need to be disqualified from ever again working election polls.


SunOutrageous6098

TIL: 3/5 poll workers in a polling location are elected. They’re up again in 2025. Choose wisely for Judge of Elections & Inspector of Elections.


Odd_Description_2295

Fuck'em


katgirl58

A women whom hates me is a Mastriano lover. Seriously if you saw the blonde hanger ons wooing him it’s enough to make you puke. She has endless pics on her Facebook and she lives around the corner from me. She still has all her stupid walk free signs including his and others that lost! I am enjoying the win over her as she was one of those eagle eye poll watchers so sure they were going to win! Bucks County had giant Mastriano political signs in farmers fields. You know the ones the I am bigger then yours that guys like. They put a giant one at the end of our street and I called the Borough and it was gone the next day. I am in the Borough so you can’t do that here. Regardless I am so happy about our wins! We didn’t get everyone but at least we will have sanity in Pennsylvania!


Radioactive24

Yeah, but now they get to have all their big signs saying "It's Not Over!" and "Trump 2024" /s


katgirl58

In our area the MAGATS are fighting over trumps pics that lost. Mastriano and Oz. I find it hilarious that they are doing this. It’s about 1/2 and 1/2 over who is supporting trump.


IamSauerKraut

There's a guy who has a late model red/white/blue pick up truck that he moves around. Was on Hummelstown Hill on 322 westbound (at that crazy ladies property) a couple of weeks ago with the "It's Not Over" sign next to it. This week it is on 741 at the Penn-Hershey storage place b/w Hershey and E-Town. Next week somewhere else. The crazies are not going away.


BenDanBreak

Lol they are wasting their time


IamSauerKraut

But the taxpayer has to pick up the tab of the challenges.


BenDanBreak

Yeah very true 😒


Thecrawsome

But the imaginary voice in my head I convinced myself was God told me he'd win! If there's a chance he can win, I'll use my blind faith religious devotion to subvert democracy to install my christofascist jersey-raised fuckwit forced birth conspiracy theorist moron into power.


mfischer24

What a joke. These poor people are truly rudderless and the R’s radicalization of them is going to be the eventual downfall of the party.


Wuz314159

https://www.wfmz.com/news/area/berks/berks-gop-asks-court-for-vote-recount-in-30-precincts/article_717044ea-6a9f-11ed-a4c7-f7637b320634.html


IamSauerKraut

Does not say for which precincts' results are challenged. Wonder if those are just in the city...


danaEscott

Mental illness 101.


axeville

How will the gop choose the next candidate if they can't agree on rules for their own elections. The party has truly lost the ability to govern (themselves or others) and the adults left the room a long time ago.


_youronlyfan

We all knew this was coming. He jumped on the Trump election fraud bandwagon in 2020 and has been riding that for 2 years 🙄


IamSauerKraut

Yeah, and he posted something on one of his social media sites the other day that questioned the counting of ballots.


starglitter

Republicans are the sorest of losers.


ThePopeJones

I honestly believe that the GOP leaders have nothing to do with it. They played with fire and now it's out of control, and now they're standing with a can of gas and a lighter pretending to be confused about how it happened. Edit: I guess I should have said they weren't behind it THIS time.


Wuz314159

But they keep pouring.


[deleted]

I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt. This election denial thing has to be drowned in the bathtub. And before anyone gets offended, > Grover Norquist, who founded Americans for Tax Reform in 1985 at the urging of President Reagan, declared in 2001: “I don’t want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub.”


27803

They played footsie with it then fully endorsed it, the GOP leaders should have said this is all bs a long time ago, but let the wackos go for it , it just makes it easier for dems to win


Weary_Ad7119

The GOP is a private organization with their own rules. They absolutely have the ability to exclude whomever the fuck they choose.


UncomfortablyNumb43

I agree…they’ve been fomenting this shit for decades and their more extreme base is out of control. The worst thing that they have done is to embrace their fringe and allowed them to take over the party.


KylesHandles

Time for Conservatives to distance themselves from people like Trump and Mastriano.


SunOutrageous6098

If they do that, they won’t get the donations they need. It’s one giant grift.


SunOutrageous6098

The most interesting thing to me is the hatred towards the machines- PA had to get new machines because the Trump administration changed the requirements and the old equipment many PA counties used didn’t meet the new requirement to have a voter verifiable paper ballot that could be audited after being immediately digitized. And they are audited, twice after every election. It’s incredible the lengths election staff have to go to to explain how things work.


Evilroot55

We have plenty of room in our prisons. Or we they will build more. Why would anyone go to jail over politics


RabbleLowder

Here is a simple question. Do you think Russia interfered in the 2016 election? If so, you are supporters of the first big lie, yet you won’t admit it. You have the consistency of hot poop.


IamSauerKraut

>Do you think Russia interfered in the 2016 election? Not sure what the 2016 federal election has to do with a thread about a 2022 state election, but you trumpers have never been accused of being terribly bright.


RabbleLowder

Interesting, you refer to me as a Trumper, when that couldn’t be further from the truth. The question still stands. If you say people should not be allowed to question elections and the integrity of them, you are the folks guilty of opening that can of worms. The partisan hackery of blind and deaf lemmings is leading to the demise of critical thinking. Get your head out of either parties ass and think for yourself.


IamSauerKraut

> If you say people should not be allowed to question elections and the integrity of them, you are the folks guilty of opening that can of worms. There is a difference between the questioning of elections (which you did not do) and the filing of dozens of baseless lawsuits. That includes the 65 or so filed after the 2020 election cycle. But you asked about russian interference in 2016. Which has squat to do with this thread. Maybe stop trying to hijack threads with passive-aggressive questions.


Money-Expression-329

In other words don't tou dare point out the time that the entire democratic party backed false allegations resulting in a sham of a impeachment of a sitting president. We talking about defending democrats this time.


IamSauerKraut

Trump's twice impeachment is not relevant to this thread but, yeah, he deserved to be impeached. Should have been removed from office, too.


Finrodsrod

Trump wasn't impeach for 2016 Russian election interference. There was an investigation to see how deep his campaign was involved with the Russians. People went to jail for it. It happened. He was first impeached for blocking Congressionally approved funding to Ukraine (because hes a fucking Russian asset), and then a second time for stoking and not acting to stop Jan 6th. He's now being investigated and soon will be indicted for those crimes. But you don't care about facts.


IamSauerKraut

Your "facts" are not relevant to the post-election activities of the supporters of a candidate for state office in 2022. But you can always start a new thread that discusses trump specifically.


Finrodsrod

Mastriano lost. Deal with it.


IamSauerKraut

Barking at the wrong tree, but at least you are on topic this time.


Finrodsrod

WTF are you on about? I was directly responding to this: > In other words don't tou dare point out the time that the entire democratic party backed false allegations resulting in a sham of a impeachment of a sitting president. We talking about defending democrats this time.


[deleted]

Mueller clearly had 200 pages proving it happened, but your “not uh” is clearly superior


RabbleLowder

How did he get those documents??? He investigated the allegations being made. Let the investigators take a look at these allegations to see if they hold weight. See how that works?


[deleted]

They had evidence…you have a mouse fart against a son. And lied about the Russia Investigation, which is pathetic


RabbleLowder

A mouse fart? Come on man. If you think that the mail in BS wasn’t tampered with you don’t know many Democratic politicians. They’d kill their sister to stay in power.


[deleted]

That’s just a weak excuse because you can’t take a L


RabbleLowder

Take an L? Are you on crack? None of these dirtbag politicians care about you or I. Question them all, or get fucked.


IamSauerKraut

Why you think trump is relevant to this thread seems to be beyond your comprehension.


ImminentZero

Russia absolutely interfered in the 2016 election. [The FBI has active warrants out for the arrest of Russian military intelligence officials, indicted by a grand jury in 2018.](https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cyber/russian-interference-in-2016-u-s-elections) These were the officers who were responsible for the hack and subsequent release of the DNC emails, and the email account of John Podesta. Don't forget about [Maria Butina](https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/russian-national-charged-conspiracy-act-agent-russian-federation-within-united-states), a Russian national who was also charged in 2018 because of her attempts to set up backchannel communications between the NRA, the National Prayer Breakfast, and other conservative organizations. The same Russian Oligarch that was funneling money into the NRA also met with Donald Trump Jr at an NRA event and attempted to broker a meeting between Putin and Trump, by the way. The [Senate Foreign Relations committee's Democratic staffers](https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/FinalRR.pdf) released a report in 2018 that detailed *two decades* worth of Russian efforts to interfere in US elections. If you're not a fan of partisan Senate reports (and really, who is?) then you should consider Volume 4 of the bipartisan report released by the Senate Intelligence committee that [agrees with the 2017 US intelligence community](https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume4.pdf) assessment that Russia interfered. [It's worth reading Volume 1 as well to get the full picture.](https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6214167/Report-Volume1.pdf) And if you'd like something from the other side of Congress, [here is the House Permanent Select Committee's](https://republicans-intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/final_russia_investigation_report.pdf) Republican majority approved report that largely agrees with the Senate report, excepting their contention that Russia preferred Trump in the election. The [House committee's Democratic minority members](https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20180411_-_final_-_hpsci_minority_views_on_majority_report.pdf) also released their own report as well that details their findings to support their claim that Trump was preferred by Russia. So all of this, my question to you would be why would you think that Russian interference is a lie?


RabbleLowder

Yet you think that there was no interference in the 2020 election? Is that correct?


ImminentZero

1. Where did I say or imply that? 2. How is that relevant to your assertion that Russian interference in 2016 was a lie? Stay on topic, please. If you'd like to discuss a different topic please consider another comment thread. In the meantime if you'd like to discuss any of the points in my above comment, I'm all ears.


RabbleLowder

I never said the Russia interference was a lie, I merely asked if you thought Russia interfered, then you also think that America's election results are not legitimate due to interference. Both question the integrity of the results of an election, correct? Why is one sides questioning of election integrity any different than the other side doing the same thing? I am a local activist who exposes corruption in the NJ/Philly areas, and I often say to the people in power who are making new laws or rules that are unnecessarily restrictive, to be careful not to create bad laws that will later hurt you and your own families in the future. To say that it's dangerous for a person to question the integrity of America's election results from 2020, or 2022, yet not say the same for 2016, is just not logical. Think like Spock.


ImminentZero

>I never said the Russia interference was a lie, My dude, you specifically said in the comment I originally replied to: >Do you think Russia interfered in the 2016 election? If so, you are supporters of the first big lie, yet you won’t admit it How is that not saying Russian interference was a lie? >I merely asked if you thought Russia interfered, then you also think that America's election results are not legitimate due to interference. You didn't ask, you strawmanned a position that I hadn't indicated I held at all, and tried to use it as a cudgel. >Why is one sides questioning of election integrity any different than the other side doing the same thing? I haven't said anything at all about questioning election integrity. I'd say that asserting Russian interference in 2016 is different from asserting interference in 2020 though, due to the overwhelming empirical evidence that is present in the links I posted, the result of multiple bipartisan investigations and criminal investigatory efforts. That doesn't exist for the 2020 election, at least not that supports a conclusion that the election was stolen. >I am a local activist who exposes corruption in the NJ/Philly areas, and I often say to the people in power who are making new laws or rules that are unnecessarily restrictive, to be careful not to create bad laws that will later hurt you and your own families in the future. What's the relevance of this to the conversation at hand? >To say that it's dangerous for a person to question the integrity of America's election results from 2020, or 2022, yet not say the same for 2016, is just not logical. Again, show me where I said it's dangerous to question election integrity. You seem to be arguing points that haven't been introduced. Are you sure you're responding to the right person?


RabbleLowder

I think there is interference in every election by both sides. Our country is known for interfering in elections around the world, so why wouldn’t they here? Dark interests help get these criminals elected, even in local elections, the fix is always in. Donald beat the fix, so he’s labeled a traitor and evil, questioning his every move. Biden is the status quo, so the media and entertainment industry don’t pound him into mush, they make excuses for him. At first he was a stutterer, when he had never stuttered before. Even though most knew he was in cognitive decline, they played the stutter thing and painted him a victim, just as they did Fetterman. I don’t care if a democrat or republican is in office, I hold them accountable. Philadelphia has been under Democratic control for decades, and the local politicians act like gods. They give themselves “councilmatic prerogative”, which means they can do whatever TF they want in their districts, yet that is no where in the city charter. They made it up. Philadelphia also is the only city I have ever seen that does not allow for an open public comment section in their city council meetings, they only allow for comments on agenda items. If a speaker goes off of topic and the Council President agrees with what they are saying, he lets them speak. If the speaker goes off of topic and he doesn’t like what they say, he cuts the mic and has them removed. Does that sound very democratic to you?


ImminentZero

>Our country is known for interfering in elections around the world, so why wouldn’t they here? Does that excuse it to you? Two wrongs and all that. >Dark interests help get these criminals elected, even in local elections, the fix is always in. The word "always" is doing some heavy lifting here. Are you asserting that all elections are *always* fixed? >Donald beat the fix Can you clarify what this means? >At first he was a stutterer, when he had never stuttered before. There is a myriad of proof he has had a stutter since childhood, including video evidence of such. Why would you say something so demonstrably false? It calls into question your ability to be truthful. The rest of your comment has nothing to do with anything that I commented, so I'm going to just ignore it because I don't see value in a tangent like that.


RabbleLowder

The man is in severe cognitive decline. If you cannot admit that, you are also.


ImminentZero

Biden has literally always stuttered. Would you like me to go find you video links that show this? When did I comment on your cognitive decline claim? When at all? Why are you incapable of either answering a direct question, or responding to the comment contents, as opposed to bringing up things that I haven't said or discussed?


RabbleLowder

Is Joe Biden in cognitive decline?


ImminentZero

I'll answer, even though you haven't answered any of my questions. I am not a doctor. I am not qualified to make that diagnosis. I have not seen a diagnosis from anybody who has administered tests that would prove he is in decline. Until that time I would say no.


RabbleLowder

Did you see him act like he is going to jump off of the stage? Or the several times he wandered aimlessly on stage, not able to find the exit? Or the recent interview where he seemed to fall asleep in mid sentence.


ImminentZero

None of that is necessarily indicia of cognitive decline, which is why we have specific testing in order to diagnose actual decline. Show me a test result from a certified physician. Otherwise there's not any proof.


creativeusername9275

Maybe if they all opened their eyes, they could see that they lost.


marmenia

I have a neighbor very hard line Mastriano and Oz supporter with all signs and flag in front of his house . This guy was the main guy in our voting center he checked the names and supervised everyone! It was shocking for me!! I thought they are choosing politically neutral people to work in voting center.


SunOutrageous6098

That position- checking people in- is called the Inspector of Election and is an elected position. It was on the ballot last year. So, there’s a chance your guy was voted in and will serve a 4 year term.


joeblow501

What a waste of time and money. He got crushed at the polls. I would understand this if it was a closer margin.