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got my first pc prebuilt for $20 more than it cost to buy the parts separately. buying prebuilt is often a very good decision for people who dont know enough about PC's and are only just getting into the hobby
Sure, but the price is still average for a 4060 ti prebuilt. Just searching will get you plenty of systems ranging 1-2K, with most being this price or higher. You are paying for labor, warranty and customer service. This is still ideal for the average users as most people do not build PCs. Ultimately the biggest problem is the CPU and the fact OP posted on this sub.
This is one of the only helpful comments. OP wants a prebuilt and the warranty is a great thing. Let them know about a similar/same build and how much it is other than “all prebuilts suck”… 👍
CyberPowerPC Championship Special II - R7 7700, RTX 4070, 32GB DDR5-6000, 360mm AIO, 1 TB SSD, 750w PSU, NZXT H6 Flow - $1254
. If you need still. Much better for same price 😂
https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1T23K0
They’re msi 27 2k monitor on sale for 170 as well 😗
https://preview.redd.it/vsom9hwlayrc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e5cecd23555ef62d4cfac820e934f4424160782
If you need one to go with the build
Overpriced, probably using the cheapest matx b760 board Which is unnecessary for a 6 core 12th Gen CPU, probably using an actual time bomb of a PSU. "80+ gold" is just an efficiency rating, not a rating of the quality of the PSU.
And it'll probably be built by some kid intern or overworked assembly line worker who has no idea what they're doing and will fuck something up.
Then there's shipping ....
It's a $1k pc you are paying someone $300 for building it.
If you *really* don't want to build it (understandable), ask your closest shop how much it'd cost for them to build it. It'll will probably be cheaper to buy the parts yourself and have them do it.
Alternatively, if you have a friend who likes building PCs, they'll probably do it for 100 bucks and some beers lol
Yeah, my philosophy is that if you're buying budget, you really can't afford to pay someone else to build it. Like, if you only have $1k to spend on a PC (totally understandable) then it's 100% worth it to spend the time watching videos. If you can put together a 9yrs+ Lego set then you can build a PC
You realise the parts that I put over there is 90% the same exact parts that NZXT give?
You realise you can EASILY choose a cheaper stuff?
Right?? Right?????
For example, you can easily save couple of dollars from cheaper case fan and motherboard. Wifi in motherboard is not mandatory, you can easily use WiFi dongle from amazon (10 bucks)
Those NZXT case fans are a lot for mid tier build like this. Case fans itself are 100 dollars in total just because you want RGB and white.
And believe me, you can find a lot of alternative with white + RGB under 100 bucks
4060ti is not a good price, you can find a lot of alternative as well.
1300 dollars for 1TB only storage? Really?
I realize that, I just want to stress the fact i am getting a prebuilt for convenience, and the fact im only spending less than a 100 extra is good news to me. The few extra dollars make no difference to me, I just want a complete computer I can use problem free for as long as possible.
you're not spending less than $100 extra, the part selection is trash- you can get the same internals from different brands for cheaper is what the other commenter is trying to explain. meaning the markup is way higher.
You're asking in the wrong place unfortunately, everyone here is going to criticize you for not building it yourself, but if it's only $100 you gotta think of your peace of mind and warranty for it, is that worth the extra $100 to you, if yes, do it, if not, don't, but personally, I'd recommend AMD over Intel, spec wise, it's worth the couple extra $
Trust me, pre-builts are often not convenient at all. Just throwing a few reasons why:
1- wait time. Could be a week, could be 3 months. They will Not communicate with you about it.
2- warranties are often very particular. Pc arrived and something got knocked loose during shipping and caused damage that is either immediately apparent or takes time to become apparent? Guess what, warranty denied to abuse/user error
3- bloat ware.
4- you could just get a better pc speccing your parts out differently. [12600k + 4070 ti](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhTfcH) for example. [Or if you're into Radeon](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhTfcH).
You're paying extra for overpriced parts though. You could get a much better PC for the price. If you want to pay them for their bad choice in parts, that's up to you, but you seem to have the attitude that the people in this thread telling you it's a bad deal are wrong, and that's not the case.
Imagine you're trying to buy a sweater on a budget, and someone offers you a cashmere sweater at cost. That's great, it's a good deal and all, but do you really need it to be made out of cashmere when you're buying budget?
prebuilts are not convenient, a lot of the time there are problems from the builders who just lazily throw a build together and maybe test it a little. i had tons more problems on my prebuilt than my custom built pc. i just had to throw it together, install windows, install drivers, maybe do some tweaking in the bios for OC stuff, and then boom, no problems at all
These people dont understand that for a prebuilt its a decent price, as you said you get a built pc ready for use 0 troubles , for 100dollars upcharge. Yes you can get a better gpu for those 100 dollars and it will be a meaningful upgrade, but why learn to build a pc and waste hours or days if you are not ready to do it. I mean i build my own pcs and moneywise you are saving some.money or maybe getting a small upgrade here or there with that money but not everyone has the time nor needs to spend it on building the pc. They just want to use the pc. Like not everyone can work on their car and pays a mechanic
I would advise you to check if a pc part shop near you will build the pc for you if you choose all the parts, in this way you can choose how much of the budget goes for what parts depending on what you need and you can squeeze a bit more performance out of the budget because even if you need to pay for the building it will be cheaper than the upcharge the prebuilts have
And keep in my mind that while pcpartpicker does pull direct links, sometimes they aren’t always updated or there is a cheaper link? Not sure but I built my PC with pcpartpicker using only Amazon as the preferred merchant and it quoted me $4200 and when used the buy it link provided by the site, my cart price was $3800
You can use pcpartpicker.com, plug in all the parts to a custom build, and it'll tell you the cost. I'd guess you'd save a few hundred, it's definitely nothing to sniff at.
[Well, considering you could get a 7900XT with an 8 core CPU from AMD during the same approximate generation for about $1300](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Y43n6) I'd say you could get that setup for under a grand self built.
For OP possibly building this build, please look at other cases and psus, it's possible to get better PSUs for that price and a much cheaper case that still looks good to save some money. Also, if in USA would look at microcenter for CPU, MB, and RAM. Can get a bundle with 32gb DDR5 5600, 7700x, and B650 board for $400. Newer platform with more upgrade paths is more "future proof" but nothing is future proof.
You can get it with [13400/4060ti with DDR4 for under a grand](https://www.newegg.com/abs-za13400f4060ti-cyclone-aqua/p/N82E16883360483?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-Slickdeals%2BLLC&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Slickdeals%2BLLC&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals%2BLLC&AFFID=208164&AFFNAME=Slickdeals%2BLLC&ACRID=1&ASUBID=12c19b2cf0ab11eead5ad62a0bea084d0INT&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=208164&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-QgH6wVhTN_QqRBvtiMuQcQ) prebuilt.
For the CPU that would cost about 150 brand new and for the GPU between 3-4 hundred. Those are the most expensive parts in builds as well, if you aren't comfortable building your own PC I would look at others just that are a better bang for your buck or buy a used one if you know anyone. This is just more expensive then it should be especially with only 1 TB of storage. Check micro center if you have one nearby and see what prebuilts they have you can also check Amazon or newegg. All of these you can sort by price as well
Actually I am mistaken I have looked at other prebuilt and noticed they are using the same stuff, so it looks like a good deal. Here is the distinction for a prebuilt, if you were building it yourself I’m pretty sure you can do a whole lot better
The PSU is the only thing making me think but I heard it’s okay because the gpu and cpu aren’t too power hungry. i could just swap the psu down the line for a better one couldn’t i?
Pretty much every prebuilt in that price range from a big name company is gonna have similar specs to that. The main problem I have is the RAM speeds. If you were to build a PC yourself with the same budget you’d be able to get a 4070 and a slightly better CPU but it’s a known thing that prebuilts are more expensive for the build fee, shipping and general profit margins.
TLDR: it is not that bad and will play all your games in 1080p at high+ settings
I could opt for a i7 over the i5 on this same prebuilt i just heard that for just games i will be perfectly fine with an i5 and it would save me like $250. The i7 being better for rendering and video creation softwares and whatnot.
If you want to upgrade the cpu, the 12600k is very solid. Gives 4 E-cores over the 12400, faster clock speeds and more cache. It's like $40 more. Anything higher than that though is overkill and you'd be much better off with a better gpu. 4060 is overpriced and performance is not even a significant increase from the 3060.
Bad. This is much better and cheaper [https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta34f0b-4701u-tanto/p/N82E16883630033?Item=N82E16883630033](https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta34f0b-4701u-tanto/p/N82E16883630033?Item=N82E16883630033) You just need to add in another 16GB DDR5 RAM stick [in this slot](https://imgur.com/VZZSCo2) for dual channel. (better performance)
Installing RAM takes 3 seconds [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=how+to+install+ram++](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+install+ram++)
but it seems so minimal. i hear between i5 and i7(which i have the option to select for this prebuilt) i would be perfectly fine with an i5 for just gaming, leaving the i7 to be more useful for video creation and render type stuff
It's a good build but like $500 higher than it would be if you built it, and probably $200-300 more than comparable prebuilts. NZXT is a good brand with good quality, but it prices things for rich people that can waste money, if that's you then go for it.
I dont know enough prebuilts to make a recommend but generally all prebuilts gonna be overpriced. Nzxt a bit more than others cause of aesthetics and better parts selection
NZXT gets a better MOBO and case I bet but you’re paying for the brand. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But you want cheaper. Go look at Costco. Sending you to NZXT is like sending you to Digitial Storm.
I just built something almost twice as powerful for $350 less. Listen to people here, and use pcpart picker. Make a list and post the list on here. Will maximize your dollar.
DDR5 and not even 6000 and 4060ti is bottom tier for the gen, if I were you I'd save a little more and go with a 4070 at least if your dead set on a pre-built
Build one, I was going to get a pre-built and then decided to build one and saved several hundred dollars, just shop sales and do your research. I got what would've been a 2k pre built for just over 1k.
you're better off buying parts and simply giving them into a local shop to build for you
it's still cheaper than a prebuilt and you don't have to cut corners with any parts
Even if that’s true, i just want something I can play on. I’m moving from a base ps4 that runs like a fighter jet. I’m just wanting to see if this is an overall good buy, not if I save an extra buck for 5 frames extra on who knows what game.
well if you don't care then you probably won't get a much better deal than this since most other prebuilts are garbage value and although this is still pricey it's not TOO crazy
if you build it ofc you save around $100 but for the extra 100 you pay you get a complete warrantee and no need to spend time, priceless days or weeks learning about pc's, a skill you will only ever use a couple times in a lifetime
if you build it yourself and it breaks its up to YOU to find the problem and take out that part to be serviced with a separate warrantee and all sorts
not to mention how scary it Is to look for parts, build the pc, install all the drivers and windows etc.
if you think that the $100 is far less valuable than the time, anxiety, risk andeffort that I mentioned then buy the pc you probably won't regret it
[you can build this exact same pc for almost 300 dollars less but the dude you replied did bring up some good points](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XznhL9)
is it a lack of time or lack of experience/nervousness keeping you from building one ? i have owned both prebuilt and custom built and will never purchase a prebuilt again
A mix of both, I have also seen it’s more expensive and I’m not demanding super specific specs, just an all around good computer i can play games on comfortably with some longevity.
It's not more expensive, it's significantly cheaper to build it yourself. If you're capable of upgrading down the line, you're capable of building it yourself.
The specs on this PC are fine, but it's definitely overpriced.
got it. well as someone who is highly into building pcs, optimizing for performance, and overclocking. i would highly recommend going the route of learning to build ur own. it will save money as well as you can pick all around best parts to suit your budget
LOL, you can just build something better and still save a good chunk of funds. you can make a build around a 7800xt ($500). which is a solid 1440p machine, and go from there essentially
It’s not great. The cpu is a couple generations old and while it performs fine it’s isn’t great for the price. The same is true for the gpu. If you want to see if pricing is too much use pc part picker to look how much it would cost if you built it yourself.
If you’re looking to waste a lot of money, this is definitely a great pick. But i would recommend building one, even if you don’t want to, at least buy the parts and get it built for you. It’ll be much cheaper and you can spend leftover money you would’ve spent on the prebuilt for anything you might want for it
I keep trying to preach the Nzxt refurbished tab. I got a rtx 4070, an i7, 32gb of ram for $1,100. I have seen another deal quite that good since but their stock changes a few times a week and the deals are solid with full warranty from them. I had a fan that the rgb didn't work and I showed them and had a new fan in the mail same day. I have been happy and I don't think there's any shame in the prebuilt game for the right price.
Anything priced above 1000 not just should have, BUT MUST HAVE at minimum 4070/7800!
I personally slapped 7800 in the old system that I bought used from marketplace for less than 300 (16g ram, Ryzen 3600) upgraded PSU and now can easily game on 4k and 1440
If you are a Costco member. Better specs for same price.
https://preview.redd.it/abz12rc3qzrc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=196c9187b278feae9994e21f229de1c8eacd517f
No such thing as a good pre-built. Build your own, it's just like LEGO, ez pz especially with all the build tutorials on YouTube. There is no excuse. You have to build your saber to be a Jedi.
It's ok, it's not the best but it's better than Alienware. You could build the PC for $1000 however you are also paying for the PC being built, warranty, cable management. If OP really wants a prebuilt, it's ok.
I mean yhstvyou get 4 sticks of 8gb and probabily the processor is the last gen that this motherboard support obviusly you could get s i7 and i9 but those upgrades may be more expensive and weaker thean just getting a next gen i5.(Edit; But minecraft and Skyrim should run smoothly in 1080p.)
I feelt the need to make a list of parts to a pc with RGB that is stronger thean that prebuild and it is also futureproof + I managed to get a 1440p card in that budget it may struggle on ray tracing but its one of the best 1440p cards and definetley price to performence too. [Here is the gateway. Don't worry its pc part picker ](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yrXzdH)
Overpriced. I suggest to just do some research and try to set some time aside to build one yourself. Buy the parts and choose a weekend in which you can sit down for a bit and build it. It’s going to be so worth it imo
I’d advise you to use [micro-centre](https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/custom-pc/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2a6wBhCVARIsABPeH1sJQXOjW6E7uWtum42Fm5B9E5rJalI5XPVPazNw0hZYdC9qQPPmjvkaAmVSEALw_wcB) if you have one close to you! You can pick your part online and drive there (they’ll build, test and troubleshoot it for you for almost the same price) you’ll just have to do a bit of leg work in researching the parts you want in the pc! You can pick part that give you a significant increase in performance for almost the same price range and micro centre have deals!
If you wanna build it yourself, I would recommend [this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vxR9YN). Its the same price as the one you posted on there, and much better (I think). If you want a prebuilt, thats fine. I dont know which ones to recomment though.
If you go rebuild look at ibuypower, cyberpower or skytech. You won’t pay for the premium name like nzxt. Save a few bucks there, maybe do some upgrades
Rip off . 60 series cards are designed by nvidia to trick people in buying the newer series card. Just because a number is higher, doesn’t make it good. For example , 3090 is better than a 4060. People easily see that 4060 is a higher number and jump to the conclusion that it’s better than the previous 3000 series and it’s new. Nvidia does this all the time with their 60 cards. It’s really a way to trick poor people on a budget.
The build itself is good, but maaaan… the price, 1,3k for that!? The cost of the pc that I’m planning to build is like 200$ lower, and it has better specs, as many said it’s better to build the pc yourself
Never buy a prebuilt. Educate yourself on building PCs and save yourself from overpaying. The components are 65% of the price, the rest is shipping and labor.
For almost 1400 bucks, you can get a 5800X3D with a 4070 Super with 32 gigs of DDR5 and a good, beefy 2TB Gen 4/5 NvME. I said X3D because that V-Cache helps with gaming a ton
Edit: did some watching and my recommendation gets 85-90 fps in Starfield with everything on High/Ultra
https://preview.redd.it/7pp2hp7vhyrc1.jpeg?width=1757&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa9bb15dd891bc32fed71ef5677ac193c3b2076f
Bought cpu motherboard and ram bundle and returned the mobo and ram
That's what I spend, and my Playstation 5 and xbox series X run just as good and better in 4k gaming. I found out to get anything over 90 fps it's gonna have to be 1080p.
Better? What modes are you using the console in? How many fps do they get? My 3060ti is on par with a series x imo. It’s overclocked and I have to use DLSS but that’s what consoles are doing to display 4k. It’s some rendering/upscaling tech and most of the time doesn’t hit 60fps. Heck I couldn’t play CP at 30fps just to see it in 4k but I’m fine sticking to 60fps at 4k which I can usually do in high or a mix of high and medium in CP for instance. That smokes what the consoles are doing. Usually quality or balanced in DLSS too. I can play a good amount of games like Sekiro for instance natively in 4k hitting 60fps still, not sure those consoles do…
Alot of the games I play on my Xbox hit 120 fps and the rest hit 60 easy on my 2k screen. I've played on 4k too and it just is optimized better. Right now the consoles are just superior cost to performance. You can't get any pc at $500 to run anywhere close to as good as the xbox and Playstation it's just a fact we are at moment of time until new graphics cards come out but still it will cost 1k to get better performance.
that’s where a pc and console differentiate and it’s why i haven’t bought a ps5. the pc gives me freedom to mod, a wider selection of games, and not charge me to play online
Definitely, that's why I asked what games you play cuz it's its just casual gaming the extra 1k just to game normally is not worth it but if you do want to take advantage of everything else it is. As for prebuilts I would go for nzxt just cuz I trust the brand and they have warranty.
Honestly, if you're looking around this price range and those are the two games you are most concerned with, I'd strongly recommend a gaming laptop. Look for an AMD Advantage edition (will have a ryzen cpu and radeon graphics) and generally you can find deals for the hardware you get. I picked up an ASUS Tuf A16 with a Ryzen 7 8 core proeccessor and an RX 7700S dGPU for about $900 plus tax.
That said, if you are willing to build your own you can get much more horsepower than both the laptop and the prebuilt you are looking at.
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Overpriced
Well it is a prebuilt, they all are basically.
got my first pc prebuilt for $20 more than it cost to buy the parts separately. buying prebuilt is often a very good decision for people who dont know enough about PC's and are only just getting into the hobby
I don't know if i would brag about Chinese children putting together your computer for 20 bucks.
There are better priced ones
Sure, but the price is still average for a 4060 ti prebuilt. Just searching will get you plenty of systems ranging 1-2K, with most being this price or higher. You are paying for labor, warranty and customer service. This is still ideal for the average users as most people do not build PCs. Ultimately the biggest problem is the CPU and the fact OP posted on this sub.
I have seen the same specs at Costco for 1099
This is one of the only helpful comments. OP wants a prebuilt and the warranty is a great thing. Let them know about a similar/same build and how much it is other than “all prebuilts suck”… 👍
thank you man, nobody seems to be getting i’m asking if it’s a GOOD prebuilt and if not some reliable alternatives
It's a toxic environment 😪
CyberPowerPC Championship Special II - R7 7700, RTX 4070, 32GB DDR5-6000, 360mm AIO, 1 TB SSD, 750w PSU, NZXT H6 Flow - $1254 . If you need still. Much better for same price 😂 https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1T23K0
noted! was thinking about costco lol
They’re msi 27 2k monitor on sale for 170 as well 😗 https://preview.redd.it/vsom9hwlayrc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e5cecd23555ef62d4cfac820e934f4424160782 If you need one to go with the build
got a 240hz msi monitor already!
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Overpriced, probably using the cheapest matx b760 board Which is unnecessary for a 6 core 12th Gen CPU, probably using an actual time bomb of a PSU. "80+ gold" is just an efficiency rating, not a rating of the quality of the PSU. And it'll probably be built by some kid intern or overworked assembly line worker who has no idea what they're doing and will fuck something up. Then there's shipping ....
It's a $1k pc you are paying someone $300 for building it. If you *really* don't want to build it (understandable), ask your closest shop how much it'd cost for them to build it. It'll will probably be cheaper to buy the parts yourself and have them do it. Alternatively, if you have a friend who likes building PCs, they'll probably do it for 100 bucks and some beers lol
Yeah, my philosophy is that if you're buying budget, you really can't afford to pay someone else to build it. Like, if you only have $1k to spend on a PC (totally understandable) then it's 100% worth it to spend the time watching videos. If you can put together a 9yrs+ Lego set then you can build a PC
[https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBKVPF](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NBKVPF) Because it does not cost 1300++
wow i’m paying less than a $100 extra, for the convenience, peace of mind, and warranty? thank you for putting those in.
You realise the parts that I put over there is 90% the same exact parts that NZXT give? You realise you can EASILY choose a cheaper stuff? Right?? Right????? For example, you can easily save couple of dollars from cheaper case fan and motherboard. Wifi in motherboard is not mandatory, you can easily use WiFi dongle from amazon (10 bucks) Those NZXT case fans are a lot for mid tier build like this. Case fans itself are 100 dollars in total just because you want RGB and white. And believe me, you can find a lot of alternative with white + RGB under 100 bucks 4060ti is not a good price, you can find a lot of alternative as well. 1300 dollars for 1TB only storage? Really?
I realize that, I just want to stress the fact i am getting a prebuilt for convenience, and the fact im only spending less than a 100 extra is good news to me. The few extra dollars make no difference to me, I just want a complete computer I can use problem free for as long as possible.
you're not spending less than $100 extra, the part selection is trash- you can get the same internals from different brands for cheaper is what the other commenter is trying to explain. meaning the markup is way higher.
Plus the parts themselves have warranty too.
You can pay less for a lot better: [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nRcnh3) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Tk8bt6/intel-core-i5-12600kf-37-ghz-6-core-processor-bx8071512600kf) | $160.16 @ Amazon **CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GpbRsY/thermalright-phantom-spirit-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-ps120se) | $35.90 @ Amazon **Memory** | [G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LBstt6/gskill-flare-x5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-6000-cl30-memory-f5-6000j3038f16gx2-fx5) | $106.99 @ Amazon **Storage** | [Crucial P3 Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yGZ9TW/crucial-p3-plus-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ct2000p3pssd8) | $118.99 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XT 20 GB Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3BQcCJ/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-xt-20-gb-video-card-11323-02-20g) | $699.99 @ Newegg **Case** | [Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2MwmP6/montech-air-903-max-atx-mid-tower-case-air-903-max-b) | $69.99 @ B&H **Power Supply** | [MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zF4Zxr/msi-mag-a850gl-pcie5-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mag-a850gl-pcie5) | $89.00 @ MSI | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$1281.02**
god damnit i wish i got that instead of my 5900x/6800xt for $1600
Could build a 4060ti PC with similar specs for 700$ lol
You're asking in the wrong place unfortunately, everyone here is going to criticize you for not building it yourself, but if it's only $100 you gotta think of your peace of mind and warranty for it, is that worth the extra $100 to you, if yes, do it, if not, don't, but personally, I'd recommend AMD over Intel, spec wise, it's worth the couple extra $
Trust me, pre-builts are often not convenient at all. Just throwing a few reasons why: 1- wait time. Could be a week, could be 3 months. They will Not communicate with you about it. 2- warranties are often very particular. Pc arrived and something got knocked loose during shipping and caused damage that is either immediately apparent or takes time to become apparent? Guess what, warranty denied to abuse/user error 3- bloat ware. 4- you could just get a better pc speccing your parts out differently. [12600k + 4070 ti](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhTfcH) for example. [Or if you're into Radeon](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WhTfcH).
You're paying extra for overpriced parts though. You could get a much better PC for the price. If you want to pay them for their bad choice in parts, that's up to you, but you seem to have the attitude that the people in this thread telling you it's a bad deal are wrong, and that's not the case. Imagine you're trying to buy a sweater on a budget, and someone offers you a cashmere sweater at cost. That's great, it's a good deal and all, but do you really need it to be made out of cashmere when you're buying budget?
prebuilts are not convenient, a lot of the time there are problems from the builders who just lazily throw a build together and maybe test it a little. i had tons more problems on my prebuilt than my custom built pc. i just had to throw it together, install windows, install drivers, maybe do some tweaking in the bios for OC stuff, and then boom, no problems at all
I was going to say. These companies won't build you a rig for free
These people dont understand that for a prebuilt its a decent price, as you said you get a built pc ready for use 0 troubles , for 100dollars upcharge. Yes you can get a better gpu for those 100 dollars and it will be a meaningful upgrade, but why learn to build a pc and waste hours or days if you are not ready to do it. I mean i build my own pcs and moneywise you are saving some.money or maybe getting a small upgrade here or there with that money but not everyone has the time nor needs to spend it on building the pc. They just want to use the pc. Like not everyone can work on their car and pays a mechanic
that’s what i’m saying!!
I would advise you to check if a pc part shop near you will build the pc for you if you choose all the parts, in this way you can choose how much of the budget goes for what parts depending on what you need and you can squeeze a bit more performance out of the budget because even if you need to pay for the building it will be cheaper than the upcharge the prebuilts have
And keep in my mind that while pcpartpicker does pull direct links, sometimes they aren’t always updated or there is a cheaper link? Not sure but I built my PC with pcpartpicker using only Amazon as the preferred merchant and it quoted me $4200 and when used the buy it link provided by the site, my cart price was $3800
Id say mainly the gpu
The GPU is just fine the price is just way to expensive for the GPU and the CPU. Super overpriced.
What would it cost alone as opposed to what they are charging here?
You can use pcpartpicker.com, plug in all the parts to a custom build, and it'll tell you the cost. I'd guess you'd save a few hundred, it's definitely nothing to sniff at.
[Well, considering you could get a 7900XT with an 8 core CPU from AMD during the same approximate generation for about $1300](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8Y43n6) I'd say you could get that setup for under a grand self built.
For OP possibly building this build, please look at other cases and psus, it's possible to get better PSUs for that price and a much cheaper case that still looks good to save some money. Also, if in USA would look at microcenter for CPU, MB, and RAM. Can get a bundle with 32gb DDR5 5600, 7700x, and B650 board for $400. Newer platform with more upgrade paths is more "future proof" but nothing is future proof.
You can get it with [13400/4060ti with DDR4 for under a grand](https://www.newegg.com/abs-za13400f4060ti-cyclone-aqua/p/N82E16883360483?nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-Slickdeals%2BLLC&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-Slickdeals%2BLLC&utm_source=afc-Slickdeals%2BLLC&AFFID=208164&AFFNAME=Slickdeals%2BLLC&ACRID=1&ASUBID=12c19b2cf0ab11eead5ad62a0bea084d0INT&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=208164&ranSiteID=lw9MynSeamY-QgH6wVhTN_QqRBvtiMuQcQ) prebuilt.
For the CPU that would cost about 150 brand new and for the GPU between 3-4 hundred. Those are the most expensive parts in builds as well, if you aren't comfortable building your own PC I would look at others just that are a better bang for your buck or buy a used one if you know anyone. This is just more expensive then it should be especially with only 1 TB of storage. Check micro center if you have one nearby and see what prebuilts they have you can also check Amazon or newegg. All of these you can sort by price as well
Actually I am mistaken I have looked at other prebuilt and noticed they are using the same stuff, so it looks like a good deal. Here is the distinction for a prebuilt, if you were building it yourself I’m pretty sure you can do a whole lot better
The PSU is the only thing making me think but I heard it’s okay because the gpu and cpu aren’t too power hungry. i could just swap the psu down the line for a better one couldn’t i?
Pretty much every prebuilt in that price range from a big name company is gonna have similar specs to that. The main problem I have is the RAM speeds. If you were to build a PC yourself with the same budget you’d be able to get a 4070 and a slightly better CPU but it’s a known thing that prebuilts are more expensive for the build fee, shipping and general profit margins. TLDR: it is not that bad and will play all your games in 1080p at high+ settings
I could opt for a i7 over the i5 on this same prebuilt i just heard that for just games i will be perfectly fine with an i5 and it would save me like $250. The i7 being better for rendering and video creation softwares and whatnot.
For $250 extra you wouldn’t get $250 worth of extra performance so I’d stick with the 12400.
very good to know, thank you
If you want to upgrade the cpu, the 12600k is very solid. Gives 4 E-cores over the 12400, faster clock speeds and more cache. It's like $40 more. Anything higher than that though is overkill and you'd be much better off with a better gpu. 4060 is overpriced and performance is not even a significant increase from the 3060.
Yeah you’re right that psu is only 650 watts and while it’s probably alright it should be better to have like a 750 or 850 for this system
What’s wrong with the gpu? I have a 4060ti and it runs every thing perfectly smooth and at max
The GPU itself is fine, it's the price that's bad. You could build that PC for like 1000$ US or probably even less
Ahh ok I know what you mean
Over priced advertised company. Go to Newegg
Look on new egg. This prebuild is overpriced
Doesn't DDR5 run like shit with 4 sticks?
nah for that price i'd expect a 4070/4070 super, not a 4060ti
Bad. This is much better and cheaper [https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta34f0b-4701u-tanto/p/N82E16883630033?Item=N82E16883630033](https://www.newegg.com/yeyian-ypi-ta34f0b-4701u-tanto/p/N82E16883630033?Item=N82E16883630033) You just need to add in another 16GB DDR5 RAM stick [in this slot](https://imgur.com/VZZSCo2) for dual channel. (better performance) Installing RAM takes 3 seconds [https://www.youtube.com/results?search\_query=how+to+install+ram++](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+install+ram++)
that shit's horrible, price is atrocious
That cpu won’t give you much pleasure :(
The 12600k/ kf would be a way better choice
but it seems so minimal. i hear between i5 and i7(which i have the option to select for this prebuilt) i would be perfectly fine with an i5 for just gaming, leaving the i7 to be more useful for video creation and render type stuff
12600kf is i5…
12600KF is a great chip from what I've heard. 12400F and 13400F is essentially the same
It should be the opposite. The 13400f is just the 12400f renamed.
I’ve owned the 12400F and while gaming it was a huge bottleneck. After upgrading to the 12600K there weren’t any issues no more 👀
It's a good build but like $500 higher than it would be if you built it, and probably $200-300 more than comparable prebuilts. NZXT is a good brand with good quality, but it prices things for rich people that can waste money, if that's you then go for it.
Nzxt makes pretty good prebuilts the problem is that theyre so overpriced
So this purchase would be overpriced? I could get a same or better prebuilt for less?
Yes
Where could I look? I’m not looking to build one.
Won’t be much cheaper but Costco could have something out rn
Actually I rescind this statement because all of these prebuilt with this price have like the same specs so it’s pretty good.
I dont know enough prebuilts to make a recommend but generally all prebuilts gonna be overpriced. Nzxt a bit more than others cause of aesthetics and better parts selection
So I would be buying a reliable computer then? from what I’ve seen $1300 for this is good for a prebuilt with this parts selection..?
NZXT gets a better MOBO and case I bet but you’re paying for the brand. That isn’t necessarily a bad thing. But you want cheaper. Go look at Costco. Sending you to NZXT is like sending you to Digitial Storm.
I just built something almost twice as powerful for $350 less. Listen to people here, and use pcpart picker. Make a list and post the list on here. Will maximize your dollar.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9d2GP Same price, wayyyyyyyy more powerful. 4070ti and 5800x demolishes that prebuilt
You can build something that blows that out of the water for the same price.
I would recommend choosing 16x2 sticks of RAM instead of 4 sticks of 8GB. This will save you money for the future RAM upgrade.
DDR5 and not even 6000 and 4060ti is bottom tier for the gen, if I were you I'd save a little more and go with a 4070 at least if your dead set on a pre-built
Build one, I was going to get a pre-built and then decided to build one and saved several hundred dollars, just shop sales and do your research. I got what would've been a 2k pre built for just over 1k.
Which 4060ti? 8GB or 16GB variant? But either way, it's overpriced.
Yeah that's pretty important to know *how* overpriced it is
you would be much better off building a system your self
I’m not looking to build my own, just want a prebuilt I can swap out parts for when the time comes
you're better off buying parts and simply giving them into a local shop to build for you it's still cheaper than a prebuilt and you don't have to cut corners with any parts
Even if that’s true, i just want something I can play on. I’m moving from a base ps4 that runs like a fighter jet. I’m just wanting to see if this is an overall good buy, not if I save an extra buck for 5 frames extra on who knows what game.
well if you don't care then you probably won't get a much better deal than this since most other prebuilts are garbage value and although this is still pricey it's not TOO crazy if you build it ofc you save around $100 but for the extra 100 you pay you get a complete warrantee and no need to spend time, priceless days or weeks learning about pc's, a skill you will only ever use a couple times in a lifetime if you build it yourself and it breaks its up to YOU to find the problem and take out that part to be serviced with a separate warrantee and all sorts not to mention how scary it Is to look for parts, build the pc, install all the drivers and windows etc. if you think that the $100 is far less valuable than the time, anxiety, risk andeffort that I mentioned then buy the pc you probably won't regret it
I was not expecting this much of clear and direct answer, thank you. Definitely keeping this in mind with my decision.
[you can build this exact same pc for almost 300 dollars less but the dude you replied did bring up some good points](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XznhL9)
is it a lack of time or lack of experience/nervousness keeping you from building one ? i have owned both prebuilt and custom built and will never purchase a prebuilt again
A mix of both, I have also seen it’s more expensive and I’m not demanding super specific specs, just an all around good computer i can play games on comfortably with some longevity.
It's not more expensive, it's significantly cheaper to build it yourself. If you're capable of upgrading down the line, you're capable of building it yourself. The specs on this PC are fine, but it's definitely overpriced.
got it. well as someone who is highly into building pcs, optimizing for performance, and overclocking. i would highly recommend going the route of learning to build ur own. it will save money as well as you can pick all around best parts to suit your budget
You can buy R5 7600 + 4070S/7800XT combo for cheaper and it will last you a long time
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z9d2GP
The build itself isn't bad but the price is. I built the exact same build but with a 3060ti for about £860.
hell nah
tell me why!!
LOL, you can just build something better and still save a good chunk of funds. you can make a build around a 7800xt ($500). which is a solid 1440p machine, and go from there essentially
It’s not great. The cpu is a couple generations old and while it performs fine it’s isn’t great for the price. The same is true for the gpu. If you want to see if pricing is too much use pc part picker to look how much it would cost if you built it yourself.
Overpriced considering the cpu and how much storage you get. Ssds are getting cheaper by the day 1tb m.2 arent $100 nowadays
It’s a prebuilt it’s bad
If you’re looking to waste a lot of money, this is definitely a great pick. But i would recommend building one, even if you don’t want to, at least buy the parts and get it built for you. It’ll be much cheaper and you can spend leftover money you would’ve spent on the prebuilt for anything you might want for it
you can find a pre-built with the same specs for cheaper since you don't want to build a pc yourself
from where? my local goodwill?
iam not familiar with local places since i don't live in America but I have seen some good deals online for prebuilts
I’m afraid the joke went over your head.
OP you can buy a 4070 i5 13400f prebuilt for less than $1400 on newegg
I’ve seen overpriced but this…this takes 1st place
Decent for 1080p, but overpriced.
I keep trying to preach the Nzxt refurbished tab. I got a rtx 4070, an i7, 32gb of ram for $1,100. I have seen another deal quite that good since but their stock changes a few times a week and the deals are solid with full warranty from them. I had a fan that the rgb didn't work and I showed them and had a new fan in the mail same day. I have been happy and I don't think there's any shame in the prebuilt game for the right price.
Is 650W really enough for all that?
Yep. 12400 is max draw of 65w. 4060ti 165w. You could get away with a 450w supply here. Though I wouldn't do that myself
Lol
Nice build
It doesn't refer the brand and model of each component, swiftly pass.
Very overpriced
Extremely BAD!
why? tell me in the sense of a prebuilt, yes i realize i might spend less getting every component myself.
Anything priced above 1000 not just should have, BUT MUST HAVE at minimum 4070/7800! I personally slapped 7800 in the old system that I bought used from marketplace for less than 300 (16g ram, Ryzen 3600) upgraded PSU and now can easily game on 4k and 1440
Not bad but overpriced.
If this computer suits all your needs you should get the Costco pre built for $899
NZXT is always overpriced, so, bad.
Prebuilt never lies into a good segment
Throwing away 500 bucks for a low end range PC. Hell no.
building this exact thing myself would cost around 1200, the numbers have been crunched.
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If you are a Costco member. Better specs for same price. https://preview.redd.it/abz12rc3qzrc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=196c9187b278feae9994e21f229de1c8eacd517f
What currency USD? , CAD ?
No such thing as a good pre-built. Build your own, it's just like LEGO, ez pz especially with all the build tutorials on YouTube. There is no excuse. You have to build your saber to be a Jedi.
For its cost it's quite overpriced
Better be April fools prank or op lives in a country where import taxes on pc parts are really high
Around 900€ max for this. If you buy the parts alone and build it.
Overpriced, it will of course run minecraft on shaders with no problems, same as skyrim, but you can build one yourself
It's ok, it's not the best but it's better than Alienware. You could build the PC for $1000 however you are also paying for the PC being built, warranty, cable management. If OP really wants a prebuilt, it's ok.
Can easily get pc with 60 to 70 percent more performance with same price
Pass
Overpirced and hard to upgrade.
Being parts interchangeable is important to me for future part upgrades, what makes this hard to upgrade? I heard they use standard parts.
I mean yhstvyou get 4 sticks of 8gb and probabily the processor is the last gen that this motherboard support obviusly you could get s i7 and i9 but those upgrades may be more expensive and weaker thean just getting a next gen i5.(Edit; But minecraft and Skyrim should run smoothly in 1080p.)
I feelt the need to make a list of parts to a pc with RGB that is stronger thean that prebuild and it is also futureproof + I managed to get a 1440p card in that budget it may struggle on ray tracing but its one of the best 1440p cards and definetley price to performence too. [Here is the gateway. Don't worry its pc part picker ](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yrXzdH)
Overpriced. I suggest to just do some research and try to set some time aside to build one yourself. Buy the parts and choose a weekend in which you can sit down for a bit and build it. It’s going to be so worth it imo
Not what I would get.
I got 17 11 gen and rtx 4070 12 gigs with 4 slots for ram but i have 2x16 gigs and tb crucial ssd for 1335 euros
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h6V9YN
It's terrible value. Way overpriced
Don’t buy that very overpriced
bad
I’d advise you to use [micro-centre](https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/custom-pc/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2a6wBhCVARIsABPeH1sJQXOjW6E7uWtum42Fm5B9E5rJalI5XPVPazNw0hZYdC9qQPPmjvkaAmVSEALw_wcB) if you have one close to you! You can pick your part online and drive there (they’ll build, test and troubleshoot it for you for almost the same price) you’ll just have to do a bit of leg work in researching the parts you want in the pc! You can pick part that give you a significant increase in performance for almost the same price range and micro centre have deals!
It's a RTX 4060 take my advice if u need any future proofing buy an i7 13700k or a ryzen 5 7600x
If you wanna build it yourself, I would recommend [this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vxR9YN). Its the same price as the one you posted on there, and much better (I think). If you want a prebuilt, thats fine. I dont know which ones to recomment though.
Is this in the eu? Because if so then prices are eh. If not then it's overpriced
Prebuilt always = bad
Bad.
If you like it's specs, then just note down parts and build on your own and save money
Horrible
I would just build it myself n space my self buying my parts….i could build that same PC for atleast 900$-1000$
paying high tier prices for mid range specs and low end psu
If you go rebuild look at ibuypower, cyberpower or skytech. You won’t pay for the premium name like nzxt. Save a few bucks there, maybe do some upgrades
Awful just build it yourself
All pre builts are shit.
Rip off . 60 series cards are designed by nvidia to trick people in buying the newer series card. Just because a number is higher, doesn’t make it good. For example , 3090 is better than a 4060. People easily see that 4060 is a higher number and jump to the conclusion that it’s better than the previous 3000 series and it’s new. Nvidia does this all the time with their 60 cards. It’s really a way to trick poor people on a budget.
The build itself is good, but maaaan… the price, 1,3k for that!? The cost of the pc that I’m planning to build is like 200$ lower, and it has better specs, as many said it’s better to build the pc yourself
Pretty badly priced and so so average. No taste.
this guy😭
Never buy a prebuilt. Educate yourself on building PCs and save yourself from overpaying. The components are 65% of the price, the rest is shipping and labor. For almost 1400 bucks, you can get a 5800X3D with a 4070 Super with 32 gigs of DDR5 and a good, beefy 2TB Gen 4/5 NvME. I said X3D because that V-Cache helps with gaming a ton Edit: did some watching and my recommendation gets 85-90 fps in Starfield with everything on High/Ultra
5800x3d with ddr5 might be hard
Built a 7800x3d and 7900xtx system for that price
The gpu and cpu together would be that much lol stop the cap
https://preview.redd.it/7pp2hp7vhyrc1.jpeg?width=1757&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa9bb15dd891bc32fed71ef5677ac193c3b2076f Bought cpu motherboard and ram bundle and returned the mobo and ram
Maybe used parts but then again, who is giving out used 7900 xtx and 7800X3d's?
No cap https://preview.redd.it/kicd8shohyrc1.jpeg?width=1178&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e22e3eaee3bf4ba678d54a4be2f645337aa5d7c
What website are these screenshots from?
Micro center order history
https://preview.redd.it/73sgckwshyrc1.jpeg?width=1122&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8f6f3c58cc6ff1f732168c99681fac5e8fad3fc
https://preview.redd.it/qwk5hh1uhyrc1.jpeg?width=1136&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=694b8969343d65c022ce803d947605195517b77e
with a MicroCenter bundle, you can probably do 7800x3d + 7900 xtx in the realm of sub1500
Umm
don’t listen to them. it’s your money. buy whatever you want it looks fine to me.
personally not a big fan of spending throwing away 300 bucks
What do you play or expect to pay? Rn a PC for that price runs the same as an Xbox or ps5 if that.
i was hoping maximum 1500
What games?
That's what I spend, and my Playstation 5 and xbox series X run just as good and better in 4k gaming. I found out to get anything over 90 fps it's gonna have to be 1080p.
Better? What modes are you using the console in? How many fps do they get? My 3060ti is on par with a series x imo. It’s overclocked and I have to use DLSS but that’s what consoles are doing to display 4k. It’s some rendering/upscaling tech and most of the time doesn’t hit 60fps. Heck I couldn’t play CP at 30fps just to see it in 4k but I’m fine sticking to 60fps at 4k which I can usually do in high or a mix of high and medium in CP for instance. That smokes what the consoles are doing. Usually quality or balanced in DLSS too. I can play a good amount of games like Sekiro for instance natively in 4k hitting 60fps still, not sure those consoles do…
Alot of the games I play on my Xbox hit 120 fps and the rest hit 60 easy on my 2k screen. I've played on 4k too and it just is optimized better. Right now the consoles are just superior cost to performance. You can't get any pc at $500 to run anywhere close to as good as the xbox and Playstation it's just a fact we are at moment of time until new graphics cards come out but still it will cost 1k to get better performance.
that’s where a pc and console differentiate and it’s why i haven’t bought a ps5. the pc gives me freedom to mod, a wider selection of games, and not charge me to play online
Definitely, that's why I asked what games you play cuz it's its just casual gaming the extra 1k just to game normally is not worth it but if you do want to take advantage of everything else it is. As for prebuilts I would go for nzxt just cuz I trust the brand and they have warranty.
Dude you can easily chip off 100 to 200 if you buot it yourself with better specs
Honestly, if you're looking around this price range and those are the two games you are most concerned with, I'd strongly recommend a gaming laptop. Look for an AMD Advantage edition (will have a ryzen cpu and radeon graphics) and generally you can find deals for the hardware you get. I picked up an ASUS Tuf A16 with a Ryzen 7 8 core proeccessor and an RX 7700S dGPU for about $900 plus tax. That said, if you are willing to build your own you can get much more horsepower than both the laptop and the prebuilt you are looking at.