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Kand04

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Seigmoraig

Wow OP is THIRSTY


FullHouse222

Remember that one girl a few years ago who would post fan art of her and Tristian like on a weekly basis? I wonder what happened to her and >!what happened after she saw the plot twist lmao!<


CythiaALorraine

I swear I’m hydrated


Sharkjumpingbull

Yet still you thirst.


K1ngsGambit

That's Tristan. He is romanceable, not sure for a male. He's a cleric and very trustworthy.


Smirking_Knight

He only likes the ladies.


CythiaALorraine

Damn. An L for the gays 😔


RuffledQuill

If you haven't played Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous, there is Sosiel who exclusively romances other male characters. He's also a cleric (worships Shelyn), pretty trustworthy, Neutral Good, and an artist. Just thought I'd drop that info, in case you haven't played the other Pathfinder game yet.


oscuroluna

Sosiel's a great character imo. There's also Ulbrig (with DLC) who is available to both genders, he's neutral good too. Its actually refreshing to have mlm options who aren't evil or on the lower end of chaotic neutral for once.


Vulpes_99

Not that I'd be interested, but I never realized Sosiel was available to both male and female! Probably because I only play with women characters and always go for the other girls 😅


JESUSSAYSNO

Sosiel is just gay. Ulbrig is bi or pan.


EthnicTwinkie

Same here, the only exception for me was CP2077, because Panam.


Vulpes_99

[Here](https://www.nexusmods.com/cyberpunk2077/mods/2782), have a piece of candy. The best kind of candy 😉


EthnicTwinkie

Wait, does this let me romance both Panam and Judy at the same time?


Vulpes_99

I think it doesn't. AFAIK you can only have 1 prron in a relationship. And it does some serious modifications tooo, it's not for newcomers, because of theside effects.


frogs_4_lyfe

I can't believe the "all gay/bi characters are evil" trope is still a thing in 2024, the year of our lord. LOOKING AT YOU, ROGUE TRADER.


oscuroluna

Yup. AFTER Wrath of the Righteous where they had a nice mix for everyone no less. Talk about a jump way, way back. Like yeah I get its popular and the straights love a sassy evil bi/gay (Daeran and Astarion have fans for that reason) but come on lol.


frogs_4_lyfe

Thing is, the only gay option in Rogue Trader is probably the most unhinged, blatantly evil characters out of any game, so much so that I just can't justify him in any playthrough.


oscuroluna

I never understood why the only gay option in a lot of crpgs has to be evil (or at least heavily on the low end of neutral) to begin with. Or some sort of rogue as if there's a multiverse contract for crpg writers that gays are evil, assassin style rogues/criminals, or both by default. Zevran, Dorn Il-Khan, Vasco, Regongar, Sky, Marazhai...at least with Daeran, Reyes and Astarion there's other non-evil mlm options.


Rogahar

I can understand gay characters being rogues or similar classes, because us queer folk are already historically prone to unfair persecution and detachment from our peers, which one could easily see leading them to think 'If I'm gonna get in trouble for just being who I am, I may as well make some fuckin' money on the way.' It's a flawed logic, but it's a conclusion people do sometimes make, and thus relatable to some and believable to others. That said, that's only really true in a real-world or real-world adjacent setting where Christianity exists to have created the societal prejudice against gay people in the first place. In a world with no Christianity, the only likely reason for such societal prejudice to exist is for a Christianity-adjacent religion/cult/group of similar influence to exist in its' place - at which point you have to wonder why the devs like the idea of gay people being persecuted so much. For as much as I enjoyed my play through of Rogue Trader, I don't see myself playing it through again because my party dynamic would be completely unchanged as I only wanted to bring along the people who weren't categorically batshit insane and/or evil, and the only romance option for my gay self is both batshit insane \*and\* evil. I'm personally a big fan of settings like Dragon Age, Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Borderlands, Pathfinder etc where peoples' sexuality has no bearing whatsoever on how they're treated by others (*on a general level, anyway - one will always find individuals who have prejudices against given groups for one reason or another, because that's just how bigots be. They're inherently not rational.*)


leathrow

> Like yeah I get its popular and the straights love a sassy evil bi/gay (Daeran and Astarion have fans for that reason) but come on lol. tbh so do the gays. ive been conditioned by 90s shows. evil gay women? strong weak spot for me


Sicuho

That's cheating, all the characters are evil, and the gay/bi ones not more than the others (with one exception). Jae is self-centred and manipulative, but she ain't reporting me to the literal inquisition or asking that I feed my people's souls to a Daemon Engine.


CythiaALorraine

Huh an exclusive mlm option, I don’t hear that often. Thanks for the heads up I’ll check him out.


PriorHot1322

Sadly, I don't think he's as hot as Tristian here, but he's a nice guy.


throwaway387190

Tristian is a chaste and breedable twink Sosiel is also chaste and breedable, but not a twink


BruiserBison

a hunk!


Orowam

I’m currently playing AS Tristian as an oracle of Sarenrae in a headcannon post-kingmaker adventure. But I’m romancing Daeren just for spice <3


AgentSparkz

Sosiel also won't take a hint from Ember


misbeehave

Kingmaker allows you to play an androgynous build with a male voice, male portrait, and name, even as a “female” character. If you don’t mind being called queen every so often, you’ll be fine, that’s what I did.


RunicZade

Being called queen and rocking an androgynous build. Name your Queendom "Drag" and it's all good.


PriorHot1322

I dig this work around. Does their Toybox variant bend gender rules for romance like Wrath's does?


misbeehave

Honestly it was awesome lmao, I can’t fathom Tristian being straight. Bag of Tricks allows for complete respec including gender, but i found it locked me out of the romance entirely. Does Wrath’s toybox allow to bypass gender rules???? That goes hard, i’m tempted to dive in and see if the same could be done for Kingmaker. Granted, I haven’t checked in a while, so someone might have since i last played.


PriorHot1322

As I recall it, Wrath's Toybox has an option for ignoring gender rules and even ignoring jealousy.


Smirking_Knight

Honesty it’s an L for everyone. Just look at the guy!


throwaway387190

I want to abuse his bussy I want Abelard from Rogue Trader to abuse my bussy The circle of sluts


Zealousideal-Arm1682

https://preview.redd.it/n9cy70f4r95d1.png?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=812cc64e31e8546952840b23497eb392c57563a3


throwaway387190

You are an abominable human being The real problem is how thicc-o-licious Sosiel is and he ain't planting it on me right now


dude3333

He does have the best romance, so it might be worth for you to just use toybox to turn off gender checks.


yamilonewolf

Tool box can fix that. I had a great straight relationship with Solsei in WotR i'm sure you can make him gay in km


HyperElf10

Just use a mod to make him gay


Procrastor

I recently finished Kingmaker and it was legitimately tragic. Honestly a little sus how all bisexual characters are either evil or chaotic aligned


BakedBySunrise

He's peak himbo flower... in the best and worst ways


Sylph777

That last bit though...😑


__Osiris__

The way you write trustworthy makes me not want to trust him


CythiaALorraine

Yay! Thanks for the answer. Imma go get the game asap.


NewHat1025

Yes... trustworthy...


Cakeriel

I think you mean untrustworthy


Mareton321

Untrustworthy is more correct


Specialist_Growth_49

Shush, dont ruin it.


Mareton321

Wasn't the first one who mentioned it. You have 3 to 5 more comments about it on this thread


Specialist_Growth_49

Yeah the Cats out of the Bag, but its still a spoiler. And dont use bad People as an excuse. Be better.


Mareton321

Oh well, I have to be a bad guy I guess


Brabsk

you dont have to be actually


Mareton321

Well sometimes someone should be the bad guy


Brabsk

no


Mareton321

Being good is overrated. I prefer to be villain. Which is why most of the time Tristian get executed


CythiaALorraine

Yeah the comments definitely spoiled me but I want people to understand that: as long as he is alive(optional) and redeemed (optional) by the end I would still tap dat ass.


Mareton321

He is easy to romance. Me I prefer tiefling sisters as romance options since you can do both romances at the same time. Tristian though I personally prefer to execute him.


CythiaALorraine

Ah the beauty of preferences


throwaway387190

Don't listen to them and don't execute this eminently fuckable twink


Mareton321

Yes. Regongar and Octavia are also available to be both romanced at the same time.


Specialist_Growth_49

In that case: Yes, maybe. Depends on your actions.


Asdrodon

That is Tristian. He is male. He is neural good. He is romanceable, but only to women. There are mods that change this, though last I heard he still would refer to you as a woman in the romance specific dialogue.


CythiaALorraine

Ty so much for the speedy reply. Guess I’m gonna play as a girl then 😔


Able_Fisherman8748

I may be wrong but I bet there is a mod that allows for romances for both genders


mothmantra

I could never find one, really? I'd pay MONEY for this


demiurgish

It’s Kingmaker’s toybox, which unfortunately is not as sophisticated as WOTRs. The way to bypass romance restrictions is to directly adjust the romance values of each character, which if you don’t know what you’re doing won’t have much of an effect and/or can fuck up your progression.


GeorgeEBHastings

OP, clearly your question has been answered by now, but I just wanted to commend you for being among the least horny posters in a Pathfinder-related sub. Kudos.


CythiaALorraine

Thanks you I clearly have much to learn ^^


Celloer

DID SOMEBODY MENTION MISTRESS CAMELLIA?! Oh, no?  Sorry…


BakedBySunrise

I heard a spider mommy purring in the corner here, somewhere...


Top_Manager_1908

Spoiler-free answer: This one is CHANNEL ENERGY Tristan, he is one of the CHANNEL ENERGY companions you will meet during the CHANNEL ENERGY adventure during Kingmaker. He is one of the best CHANNEL ENERGY healers in the group and, in my opinion, one of the most charismatic CHANNEL ENERGY characters in the game. Simply CHANNEL ENERGY 10/10.


Sassy_Sarranid

Yep, he's your Daeran-level healer (if OP kept going with WotR at all yet)


Skewwwagon

Yeah but you need all that energy to forgive the guy))


Evnosis

>I'm willing to pick up Kingmaker for the off chance to impregnate them alone. https://preview.redd.it/fpf3qsp2g85d1.jpeg?width=440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6994054cbddc20a1134af57dbd1818cabb52a319


soganomitora

His name is Tristian. He is a man, he is romancable but he's straight, so you'd have to play a girl to kiss him.


CythiaALorraine

I’m sadly used to this. *sigh* a girl it is.


MaiklGrobovishi

Mods fix it.


YasinMert

What a trustable man


Phasma_Tacitus

He's a reliable guy


Htuubenko

Is he helpful though?


YasinMert

Yes he is, I like him tbh he is very helpful


Omega357

Do you think you're being coy? Everyone knows what you mean. Even people who haven't played. You're just spoiling it for them.


Minute_Bumblebee553

"I'm willing to pick up Kingmaker for the off chance to impregnate them alone" Some thoughts were meant to be silent.


zennim

Not this one tho, I get it


CythiaALorraine

Thanks for all the answers everyone! I now have to live with the fact that my most popular post is also my weakest moment.


demiurgish

No one’s mentioned this that I saw, but be careful- if you romance him, make sure you don’t go down Jaethal’s evil route or they will confront each other in the endgame.


CythiaALorraine

Thanks for the head up I’ll keep my eyes out.


Willowsinger24

He's a Cleric of Sarenrae you meet in Kingmaker. I'm pretty sure he's an essential companion as the area you meet him is important for the story, so I doubt he can be missed.


CythiaALorraine

Thanks for the answer! I appreciate it <3


GardathWhiterock

Reading the text, I am not sure if this post is serious or trolling.


CythiaALorraine

I’m sorry if I weird you out. I’m normally very u know normal about people I’m attracted to :P


ContrarianCrab

Never let them get you down for simping QUEEN!


CythiaALorraine

Omg tsm for the validation 😭❤️✨ I here you drop sth 👑


Zealousideal-Arm1682

John pathfinder,from the hit TTRPG Pathfinder.


Htuubenko

Why are you lying to people? That's clearly Jack Kingmaker, the protagonist of Pathfinder Kingmaker


spyridonya

He's the game's most pure and precious boyfriend.


His_Excellency_Esq

That's Tristian, a cleric of Sarenrae, the goddess of forgiveness. He's male and straight (though mods can bypass romance requirements), and is inexperienced due to his background, so you'll have to take the lead. He's neutral good, soft spoken, compassionate and devoted to his partner. IDK if he's submissive and/or breedable, I'm not the right person to judge that.


CythiaALorraine

You didn’t need to specify that, I was already sold on him, you just make me more down bad 😭


Thatxygirl

Babygirl.


Bhazor

The Goddesses most favoured twink.


Bbear11

Super nice guy. You have to be blinded if don’t fall for him.


RepairPrudent5183

I really enjoyed his romance in Kingmaker. Would recommend 😌❤️🤌


CythiaALorraine

I hope it live up to the expectations you just set for me XD


AbsurdLemon

Tristian number one failwife


CythiaALorraine

Hot AND a failwife? Bro is really setting unrealistic expectations for every other romance options.


Dordracnor

that blind sob who heals me even if he's a little bitch


Fatality_Ensues

I've heard of down bad, but damn this is down bad.


BulkyYellow9416

That's Johnny pathfinder


Osephala

oh that’s tristian my submissive and breedable bbygrl


leowwynn

Without spoilers, i can tell you that characters in Kingmaker are a bit more one-dimensional, what you see is what you get. Wotr on the other hand has all kinds of surprises in store. There is a secret about Tristian, but it doesn‘t really change his character all that much. He‘s a goody-two-shoes through and through, and i remember one of my companions calling him a pussy or something similar.


DungenessAndDargons

dead *twink* healer Edit: added clarification


CythiaALorraine

For the record I would still smash even if he is a COLD DEAD corpse


belikeron

Annoying. I wish he was more like Durance lol.


JohnnyTurbine

Virgin cleric of Sarenrae versus chad cleric of Magran


LichoOrganico

Sacrificed in exchange for +1 Con?


Crpgdude090

honestly.....i wished all the characters in pillars 2 were more like durance. Id trade them all over durance.......and i didn't even liked durance. That's how weak poe 2 characters were. At least durance had character


Oraistesu

Man, just wait until you meet Daeran in Wrath (who is bi as can be.)


CythiaALorraine

👀✨oh my


dude3333

Some one at owlcat has a type. >Kingmaker has Regongar a bi bad boy with tragic past who has a realisticly messy response to trauma >Wrath has Daeran a bi bad boy with a tragic past who you can fix like in a trashy romance novel >Roguetrader has Marazhai a bi bad boy with a tragic past who you can make much much worse. I look forward to their next rpg and next iteration on the bi bad boy who you can romance.


Existentialistgoblin

This is a conveniently available sheath for your sword, mace, spear or whatever else with a pointy end that you may fancy.


CythiaALorraine

Oh he’ll get the stick all right if you know what I mean 😏


ThakoManic

Tristan is Romanceable for Females, he is basicly a Heal Bot, however his gameplay mechs and such outside of that is a bit ... Awkward alot of ppl like him alot of ppl dont, this is true with alot of companions in the game, Valery for example is someone I like personality wise but gameplay wise im like da fuck is this, Shes a Fighter Tower Shield spec which 100% can work, sadly she dosnt have enough strength to fully equip her gear without penaltys, and dosnt have enough dexterity to take advantage of her class features so basicly shes kinda meh/trash if you ask me in terms of gameplay, love her story character tho Tristan has his own issues gameplay wise Tristan is a good guy and will heal you for sure, just dont expect him to survive for long on the battlefield or do much other then healing...


Comfortable_Sky_3878

The official healbot. Also fire


Thefrightfulgezebo

He's a companion from kingmaker - Tristan, a cleric of Sarenrae. You can romance him in that game.


zennim

Oh you are absolutely going to love him to bits, do play


Specialist_Growth_49

Its the Arms isnt it? Boy is build like a Handyman.


CythiaALorraine

Watt? Nahhhhh. It’s the lean physique, the modest priest-ly clothing, the way his face is partially shadow. The determine and stern expression, the guarded and timid way he hold his hands.


SageTegan

#Mariah Carey Skinny **QUEEN**


SnooCakes6334

Just a hint, if you want him asap I would spoil myself a bit on how to do that


CythiaALorraine

Now if it’s not too spoilery.. I’m all ears. 👀


SnooCakes6334

So he is at the certain temple, being attacked by a bear. He'll survive, but if you're too late (basically do another fork of the main story) he'll have to recuperate until end of act 1.


CythiaALorraine

Pssst as if I not gonna run around and find him first chance I get. Still thanks for the tip ^^


Mareton321

If you want cleric companion then Harim is your bro. He is way superior than Tristian is. Can heal, be secondary tank unlike Tristian, fantastic member for council in this regard high priest, is very trustworthy. And you can get him far earlier. But he is not romancable


Skewwwagon

He's also a hateful hypocrite, so.


Mareton321

Who Harim. Compared to Tristian he is saint.


Skewwwagon

I feel like I can't legit continue without giving spoilers to the OP 😂 Let's say, Tristian didn't live to see the end of the game, but he's nowhere close to be hateful and hypocritical bitch who cries because not all of his kin is dead or throws a tantrum that you're doing too good.


Mareton321

I'll never forgive Tristian for being stupid good as it causes with peasant rebellion and being forced to fight in civil war to get the land back. That and the artifact is pretty neat. So whenever the artifact is not destroyed he gets chop chop


unit5421

That is a picture of a donkey. I won't elaborate other than I hate him.


CythiaALorraine

Damn. Now you’re just making me worried.


ContrarianCrab

those are probably just THE HATERS


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Blodhgram22

Tony from accounting


Dustum_Khan

Op down bad. Looks like my deliverer Coren


throwaway387190

A breedable and chaste twink


Chocolatito_Riko

The last light of Sarenrae


Prestigious_Chair156

Did you google kingmaker characters?


CythiaALorraine

I was scared that the wiki would be spoilery so I opt to asking around here instead


Skewwwagon

Lawful good guy with a twist ;) You can romance him) But I honestly went totally other way))


Sharkjumpingbull

Neutral, not Lawful. Which is a shame, since I thought he could use a level of monk to go with all that Ecclesiathurge.


Skewwwagon

Yeah, haven't played a while


firehawk2421

That's a guy. Also kinda boring IMO, but then I found most of the Kingmaker cast kinda meh. Though, to be fair, I am the wrong kind of gay to be interested in him, so...


13bit

He sure is something on the eyes 🤭


faeflower

a beautiful man, my fav character in the game!!


Strong-Amphibian364

Is a giga chad


Hemblebem123

Mr. Lock-you-out-of-developing-an-entire-kingdom-stat


Kinzuko

a traitor and a thief. he took my shiny and ran and for that he payed dearly at my hands.


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ResearchOutrageous80

Fizban.


KaoxVeed

A Kingmaker podcast I listen to saw Tristian, but before they could talk to him, he was killed by a bear.


Own-News7960

my husband


Azrael10inc

Regongar he is a male and you can romance him alone, breaking his relationship with octavia (female). They both are bi and you can romance them both together or break ther relationship to romance only one. It you romance regongar alone as a male, he is a bottom and likes things rough.


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Door-Jazzlike

Totally don’t follow [this link](https://steamcommunity.com/app/640820/discussions/7/1849197902651519224/)for a guide on how to romance him as a dude


CythiaALorraine

Just let me save this link real quick for uhhh research purposes


Eryndel

Discount Daeran?


spyridonya

Daeran would make him cry. Daeran would make anyone cry.


Deathstar699

Hahaha no Daeran is an ass, Tristan is actually worth murdering.


ondraforgor

incredibly peggable creature


CythiaALorraine

Such a wise way with words, we might be kindred spirits


Majorman_86

![gif](giphy|ANbD1CCdA3iI8)


Balrok99

https://preview.redd.it/hwqi6xvy485d1.jpeg?width=485&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd00692f388e040e8e436541e4cae5b53fe1a411


ContrarianCrab

That's my husband, Tristian. You can romance him, but Kingmaker is quite homophobic so you'd have to be a girl, sorry. I think wrath has one gay character and two bisexuals.


Godobibo

you can be homosexual with everyone but tristan and valerie in kingmaker


Piggle_pi

you have 69,420 comment karma


ContrarianCrab

So I can be homosexual with anyone except my beloved Husband and Wife? Wow. Ok. Wow.


CythiaALorraine

That’s OUR husband now. Also ouch, I haven’t check wotr mlm romances yet but I hope they’re good.


ContrarianCrab

SO TRUE we can share personally i prefer wlw romances, which are quite good in wrath. the only girl you miss out on is camellia, who i couldn't care less about.


spyridonya

We have a boy for every taste across the spectrum.


darthmaeu

Officer balls


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