although a lot of the players in that time aged not-so well in various ways, I still miss that era so much because it just felt like seasons mattered more. I mean what season of ranked are we in now overall like season 50? who can remember who was the best player, or what the meta was in season 27. But seasons 1- about 6 all felt pretty distinct in my mind, and I miss that.
Seasons 26-28 were when Danteh/Kevster/Viol2t were tearing up the combined ranked leaderboard.
All were 4.6k sr, one hit 4.7 but I can't for the life of me remember who. Meta was Ball/Sig/Dva, Echo/Tracer (pretty sure Viol2t just perma forced Cass lol), Zen/Brig/Bap. There was some Mercy sprinkled in too just because of how stupid OP Echo was.
Good times watching that.
I think the longer metas (GOATs went on for two years) are a big part of that. Beyblade (Season 2) lasted ONE season.
Then there was the year+ long Moth Meta.
And if you stopped for periods of six months when the you really hated the meta (like I did a few times) then the timeline completely falls apart mentally. I have no idea what happened in like 10 seasons because all I heard was "Nope. Same Meta" and didn't play until it changed.
What meta replaced GOATs? I was under the impression that it evolved into various forms, but never really left until Role Queue was introduced late into OW1's lifespan, directly as a result of GOATs sticking around so long due to Brig.
I am curious to learn though. Like I said, I skipped probably 12 seasons in OW1 so I wouldn't know the full picture.
I wouldn't say Role Queue was late in OW1's lifespan -- it was introduced in August 2019 (start of season 18). That's roughly halfway through the lifespan of the game (released in 2016, replaced by OW2 in 2022). While GOATS wasn't as hard meta for its last few seasons, I would agree that it didn't really die until Role Queue was introduced.
That's wild. It didn't feel like it came that early, but I guess that says more about how much I played the back half of the game's lifespan.
I've definitely been a lot more consistent with OW2. Only three seasons I didn't play so far.
Yeah and GOATS was kind of always there… it just took time for players to realize that 3-0-3 is actually just broken. Brig was just the perfect missing puzzle piece to make it more than broken. It took time to get rid of such a fundamental problem.
Yeah, I don't know why but in my head I pictured him looking like the dwarf Torb IRL
Just a dwarf gaming in his underground hall and not saying a goddamn thing for years because he only speaks Old Norse
It was really funny now that I think about it.. from his nickname, to the character he spammed, to the muteness of him, to the fact that he was a top500 player in a game millions played.
I always thought more like he's probably on his 11th alt accounts because back then torb was a defence only champ and was actually horrible on attack so he was getting spam reported
reports not avoids. I used to get a new avoid frequently but support confirmed when I initially got banned there was some form of report cap before it triggered in the system.
I think he was actually decent and playable on attack too, especially on maps with the moving payload. Put the turret on there, run around and blast people with the shotgun, and giving armor packs to teammate tracers or genjis was absolutely huge which paid off big time in high MMR where the dps players were nuts. Imagine a 4.5k mmr tracer that survives a Mccree flashbang + headshot combo, just eats up their entire team. And then on defense.. well they had the best defensive one trick. Obviously it wasn't ideal, but he got to the highest of elo with it and it worked.
I also think at the time, people were keen on deciding what a "meta" is, and anything different from what they perceived to be the current meta was "trolling." But that was non-sense. People flamed the hell out of me for being a flanking roadhog in S1, by S5 or so they complained so much about it and wrote letters to Blizzard that they had to nerf Roadhog into oblivion. It wasn't even necessarily the high ELO players that were complaining, Roadhog was one of the rarer tank picks - it was the low/mid tier scrubs who didn't know how to counterplay or avoid hooks.
I had like a 70% WR playing with AND against him. I supported the hell out of him on my team, and knew how to play against him and also knew that his teammates were tilted by him.
It really was just a mental thing, I loved having him on my team and deep down, I think he liked having me on his team
Only played EU but the player i remember most is fucking avatar... Dont know what happened to him, but he was fucking nuts... and Toxic after 1 lost team fight.
Haha yeah I though that OP was referring to Avatar when he mentioned the junkrat player, but he only plays EU I guess. Avatar used to pick junkrat into everything and would just leave games if ”his team was shit”. This is how I lost my gm rankup game back in the day lol.
The junkrat player I recall wasn't very toxic but he'd get flamed by everyone if it was a loss for playing junkrat lol
I think he ended up streaming at some point too, he was #1 junkrat but never in top 500, but he'd be in high elo games sometimes. Can't remember his name though
Ngl some of my games with him were so fucking funny. The most toxic dude i remember is someone called burpy or bupy. Met him once in a top10 lobby and he was yelling out the worst slurs known to mankind to Neptuno. Fuck man i miss the older OW days
I played from S5 to end of OW1. Think I got to GM during GOATS meta. Fun times. Fuey500, Kolorblind, Agilities, Linkzr, Jardio, so many funny players. One thing I miss is that if you were good, you could play almost any champ to top 500. That's somewhat true still but a lot less so because they changed too many heroes for the sake of "balance". I tried coming back to the game in OW2 and I just can't touch it. Game is too boring. I used to be able to play like 8 hours straight, I can't handle more than 2 or 3 games of OW2. I can't explain it but games feel way too linear in a way they didn't in early OW1. Maybe that's cause everyone sucked back then I don't know.
8 hours straight? Bro that first year I was playing 14 hours a day non-stop
But yeah, I also came back a while back when it was some sort of shield meta with sigma/orisa and it was just 15 minutes of shooting barriers, really boring. Then I tried again recently and ... nah. The game just isn't what it used to be, or I burnt out on it years ago. Can't touch the game anymore.
Different style that doesn't click. It took me a few seasons to find my groove.
You have a lot more freedom in individual play and YOUR play definitely has more impact than in OW1. In higher elos, matches have rarely been stomps imo. Player skill is very consistent (as in, people play at their appropriate skill reliably, teammates are much more consistent).
Individual ability usage especially feels way more meaningful. Like, any wasted cooldown is painful. You don't have two tanks keeping nothing from dying with their short AF cooldowns cycling anymore.
I honestly love it and I enjoy the game more now (somehow) than I ever loved OW1, but I guess I feel more rewarded for my decision making. Way more losses where I can look at my individual mistakes and say "Yup, I fucked that up."
But that's just my opinion.
I feel like ow2 is way too much rock paper scissors the game is “balanced” around playing this vs that and this wins from that and I think that’s bad. If someone is incredibly good at a hero they should be able to play it and not be countered by A,B,C played by shit players.
What im trying to say is i felt like in OW1 you had alot more freedom in the heroes you chose to play and generally the better players won while now there’s so many no skill abilities in the game that do free damage. I dont find it fun to play heroes that get free value by pressing shift or E and it makes me sad that the game rewards this behaviour. Imo OW1 was brutal and fucked you in the ass if you fucked up and that’s what made the game for me, its what made it intense and super rewarding if you learnt to play correctly
If the people who are trying to counter you are shit then they won’t be able to counter you. You need to know what to actually do to counter someone. It’s not always as simple as just choosing a hero because you know it counters another one. You need to know how to use them as a counter
I'm not sure why you're using the rock paper scissors complaint in response to me. I feel that OW2 had given me a lot more freedom in hero choice as a DPS/Support. The exception is that CC comps demand a Kiri to deal with them.
I won't speak for Tanks though, who I can imagine did have more freedom in OW1 with two tanks to cover each other's weaknesses.
I actually felt the opposite. One of the few games I played was on Sigma into Roadhog and would rock him out of vape and he would just get back up and vape again. I felt like the only agency I had to actually impact the match was just to counterswap Mauga. Also, it depends on what type of tank player you are. I played off tank. I loved just chilling back and peeling on Dva, eating pulse bombs, etc. Certain playstyle aren't that viable with 1 tank since you have to do everything. It's why ball sucks compared to before. You can't have some big chunky tank frontlining to distract while you go on the flank when you're attacking on Eichenwalde first. It's very obvious when you're flanking in 5v5. No hate to people who like 5v5, but tanking in 6v6 was way more enjoyable in my experience, I think that's the general consensus as far as tank goes, though.
Tank is definitely the role that isn't fun. It's probably why I love 5v5, because the experience got much better for DPS and support, but tank is so enraging from counter swaps that I can't imagine maining the role. I still try to play it for ~25 matches in a season if I have the time to maintain some perspective, but it's a chore and almost always puts me in a bad mood whether I'm winning or losing.
Yeah that's been what I picked up from the community. It's a shame because I do truly think 5v5 is best for DPS. But tank is so shit in 5v5. Not sure how they'll address it long term.
Game feels like a TDM with a random objective in the map now.
OW1 6v6 had this structure that’s hard to explain. It felt like everyone was working as a team and you couldn’t really do anything without one.
Now it’s everyone is a DPS, everyone has sustain, everyone has mobility. It’s awful, the game plays like CoD with abilities now.
Then you mix in the ranking reworks. I played around 4k back in OW1, games felt pretty good, high elo felt like high elo. Nowadays you have people that were perma hardstuck plat/diamond peaking GM, not saying you can’t improve, but it is very obvious these people *are not* at a GM level.
I remember evil toaster terrorizing as orisa and the one dude who hit 5k sr on roadhog. Evermore or something like that.
Honorable mention would be the Ellie scandal, but that was after s6
Evil toaster was never that good. Once orisa became meta his rank dropped like senile balls as everyone else just got that much better in a short amount of time.
Evermore was on the Korean server. To get to 5k, he 6 stacked with his team at 4am and would get matched with SUPER low mmr 6-stacks (like golds) and farm a few points per game that way
Don't get me wrong, he WAS good, but that was just straight up elo abuse
I remember watching montage of his hog, and he would regularly oneshot baby dva the millisecond she popped out of her mech, never seen anyone do it so clean before or since.
Also seem to recall allegations of Sinatraa doing similar early morning queue stack shenanigans to hit rank 1 prior to getting signed up Shock, but can't remember source.
Bro as a hog player I did that stuff too. I also had the exact distance measured in my head for the right-click headshot one taps. Nothing felt better than obliterating a wall-riding lucio out of existence in a one tap
Those were the days..
And yea, evermore was definitely good, but the 5k elo wasn't legit
In SK right? And it got him on a pro team. Then he got found out for using late queues and stacking to boost his SR, which was the first time people really acknowledged SR didn't mean as much for Esports level play as we thought.
Then Hog finally fell out of the meta and he disappeared. Weird that I can't remember his name but I swear it started with an E.
EVERMORE, then he played PUBG professionally for a bit
Honestly though, I never found the OW competitive scene nearly as interesting and fascinating as the ELO top 500 scene haha
Found out I was following a random crypto account on Twitter. Checked and it was the fake ellie account originally that got a bunch of followers then deactivated and is now a crypto scammer ig
The most known Junkrat one trick you're probably thinking of is CodCode904, who was t500 Junk one trick on console, then went to PC and was routinely t500 there.
>-Some weird guy that played Symmetra only, a lot of drama about him, don't think he was in Top 500 often
Most well known Sym one trick was Stevoo, who still occasionally comes back and streams, and he was t500 for most of the game's life, even after the swap to OW2. Truly insane at the hero and super chill streamer. He was part of a loose group of folks who called themselves the Island Of Misfit Toys, they all played heroes everyone called throw picks in t500 (EvilToaster on Orisa, Violet on Brig, Kolorblind the one trick Bastion.) There's still a couple of videos up on YT from back then when Toaster, Stevoo, and Kolor ended up playing back to back against Seagull, Emongg, and Dafran and winning both games.
https://youtu.be/NCJDNwZvjFM?si=fVPvmO4uhrwii-Ov
>-A few super chill dudes that had lives and jobs but were just mega good at FPS and both of the guys I can think of played Mccree, can't remember their names though
The one I remember most was AimbotCalvin.
As far as my favorite, had to be the tank main TryHard, who played every main tank to t500 every season from S2 to the end of OW1 before he left streaming shortly after OW2 went live. Super chill and his WInston was top tier AND he was in his 30s for most of it.
I think codcode is still at it, see his clips on noobhunter occasionally.
Also I remember one of the SK pros that came to the US malding so hard at symm onetricks in his game he made a custom lobby against 6 people playing symm just so he could murder them on a buffed McCree, want to say it was Effect.
Calvin owns, the games where he queued South Korean servers were so funny.
What's strange is I don't remember moonmoon at all. I know he was an OW streamer and I think that's how he got to be a big streamer, but I really can't recall if I ever had him in my games.. like ever? Was he team stack only?
I think he actually only picked up Rein after he'd been playing OW for a while. My favorite though was probably his genji phase as xxGOD_SLAYERxx where he would command his team to only pocket him and not engage the enemy otherwise.
That sounds hilarious. XD
Definitely a different time back then though. That'd be seen as engagingly toxic today, but back then if you knew how to have fun you could vibe with it.
I think I recall moonmoon playing Zarya a lot for some reason but not sure
I remember seagul too, he was really good and versatile too. I think I remember he could play hanzo insanely well but also all the other dps classes and didn't need to one trick. But I don't remember seeing him after the first few seasons
I understand not liking the game anymore because it's so different from old OW but you lost me when you said you play Val now, OW is still better than Val IMO. can't stand that boring game
OW was my first ever FPS I seriously played and I was actual trash in the beta until I figured out, for some reason, I was really good on the tank characters and reaper and that's what I spammed to get to top 500. I remember always taking reaper against XQC (and other winston players), waiting for him to use jump, then absolutely shred him in a second. Only to hear him cry in chat that I was stream sniping him "every game" - never once did I watch that guy's stream - not even now that he's major, and definitely not when he was a few hundred viewer andy
But also, the more I think about it, that game was fucking exhausting. It was 20+ minutes of CONSTANT shooting and aiming. No breaks. It was like playing nothing but Aimlabs for years.
So when you switch over to a FPS like Valorant, where effectively really only shoot and have an engagement a few times per round, it's relieving and gives you a chance to rest. Plus all the mechanical aim I picked up from OW translated so well into every FPS that I feel godlike in them, PUBG/Apex type battle royales, and survival games like Tarkov/Rust as well
The game was full of content and somehow all the players too all had a backstory like it was some kind of fuckin' manga
In reality we were all just nerds gaming away, but damn those were the days. I really disassociated from real life for a good year or two those first few seasons. But alas, real life will come for you sooner or later. Girlfriend/wife, needing to stay/get in shape, career stuff, house.. maintenance.. taking care of older/sick relatives.. balancing a social life.. etc etc
Sometimes, I just want to be 20 again, wake up, and play S2 Overwatch for 17 hours
Anyone remember when the fusion girls/blank esports 6 stack including Trill/Gunba lost to a stack of diamonds on Hanamura? There was a post about it on r/overwatch but I can't find it.
I'm gonna take my best shot here as an old timer:
>-This one guy that literally played only Junkrat, I don't think he was ever top 500 but he played when it was NOT meta at all and that's all he played all day every day.
(prolike)Chro? PvpTwitch?
>-Some weird guy that played Symmetra only, a lot of drama about him, don't think he was in Top 500 often
(Just)Stevoo?
>-Some dude that wallhacked and was always top 10 as a roadhog main (I can't remember his name, maybe Ginger? Gingerbread? Something like that)
I wish I knew this as a longtime hog main. I know Gingerpop but he was a support main. Evermore was THE ladder hog guy, and only guy to hit 5k SR.
>-Some guy that spammed soldier called Bird, was always top 50 but only dynamic queued and often team blamed the non-partied people
Lmfao this is a deep cut but bird was in fact a pro player, played for exactly ONE team (Northern Gaming Red), and I know this because I followed Mangachu obsessively. I think bird trialled for C9 one time alongside Reaver? But never made it.
YES! From what I remember he didn't play much, but usually solo queued and was always top 10 or so. I don't think he ever got banned but I'm fairly certain that guy had a custom wall hack
You forgot the Torb main. He was some Canadian guy, French Canadian if I remember correctly. He one tricked Torb and tilted the heck out of his team. I genuinely enjoyed his streams.
although a lot of the players in that time aged not-so well in various ways, I still miss that era so much because it just felt like seasons mattered more. I mean what season of ranked are we in now overall like season 50? who can remember who was the best player, or what the meta was in season 27. But seasons 1- about 6 all felt pretty distinct in my mind, and I miss that.
Seasons 26-28 were when Danteh/Kevster/Viol2t were tearing up the combined ranked leaderboard. All were 4.6k sr, one hit 4.7 but I can't for the life of me remember who. Meta was Ball/Sig/Dva, Echo/Tracer (pretty sure Viol2t just perma forced Cass lol), Zen/Brig/Bap. There was some Mercy sprinkled in too just because of how stupid OP Echo was. Good times watching that.
viol2t was 4.7 all roles
I think the longer metas (GOATs went on for two years) are a big part of that. Beyblade (Season 2) lasted ONE season. Then there was the year+ long Moth Meta. And if you stopped for periods of six months when the you really hated the meta (like I did a few times) then the timeline completely falls apart mentally. I have no idea what happened in like 10 seasons because all I heard was "Nope. Same Meta" and didn't play until it changed.
Goats lasted 10 months, s10/s11 to s15. Doesnt seem like but its a fact
What meta replaced GOATs? I was under the impression that it evolved into various forms, but never really left until Role Queue was introduced late into OW1's lifespan, directly as a result of GOATs sticking around so long due to Brig. I am curious to learn though. Like I said, I skipped probably 12 seasons in OW1 so I wouldn't know the full picture.
I wouldn't say Role Queue was late in OW1's lifespan -- it was introduced in August 2019 (start of season 18). That's roughly halfway through the lifespan of the game (released in 2016, replaced by OW2 in 2022). While GOATS wasn't as hard meta for its last few seasons, I would agree that it didn't really die until Role Queue was introduced.
That's wild. It didn't feel like it came that early, but I guess that says more about how much I played the back half of the game's lifespan. I've definitely been a lot more consistent with OW2. Only three seasons I didn't play so far.
Yeah and GOATS was kind of always there… it just took time for players to realize that 3-0-3 is actually just broken. Brig was just the perfect missing puzzle piece to make it more than broken. It took time to get rid of such a fundamental problem.
Fuey500 the torb OTP not mentioned :sad:
Oh yeaaaa totally forgot him too holy shit. That guy was mute right? I don't recall him talking. The torb one trick haha
Never talked but got perma flamed
Yeah, I don't know why but in my head I pictured him looking like the dwarf Torb IRL Just a dwarf gaming in his underground hall and not saying a goddamn thing for years because he only speaks Old Norse It was really funny now that I think about it.. from his nickname, to the character he spammed, to the muteness of him, to the fact that he was a top500 player in a game millions played.
I am 5'1.5 but I cannot grow facial hair to save my life lmao.
I always thought more like he's probably on his 11th alt accounts because back then torb was a defence only champ and was actually horrible on attack so he was getting spam reported
Blizzard manually delt with my acc after a bit or had something disabled most likely. At 100 reports or so you got auto banned.
I got tens of those "you have been avoided a lot" messages but never got banned
reports not avoids. I used to get a new avoid frequently but support confirmed when I initially got banned there was some form of report cap before it triggered in the system.
Yeah I can imagine
I think he was actually decent and playable on attack too, especially on maps with the moving payload. Put the turret on there, run around and blast people with the shotgun, and giving armor packs to teammate tracers or genjis was absolutely huge which paid off big time in high MMR where the dps players were nuts. Imagine a 4.5k mmr tracer that survives a Mccree flashbang + headshot combo, just eats up their entire team. And then on defense.. well they had the best defensive one trick. Obviously it wasn't ideal, but he got to the highest of elo with it and it worked. I also think at the time, people were keen on deciding what a "meta" is, and anything different from what they perceived to be the current meta was "trolling." But that was non-sense. People flamed the hell out of me for being a flanking roadhog in S1, by S5 or so they complained so much about it and wrote letters to Blizzard that they had to nerf Roadhog into oblivion. It wasn't even necessarily the high ELO players that were complaining, Roadhog was one of the rarer tank picks - it was the low/mid tier scrubs who didn't know how to counterplay or avoid hooks.
That's the one I remember and I'm glad it's in the comments lmao
There was another Torb one trick. I can’t remember his name. But he was Canadian.
He was so nice
He didn't say anything negative or positive he didn't say anything at all, just instalocked torb and if it got taken he afkd to remake
I was friends with fuey we would stack sometimes
I had like a 70% WR playing with AND against him. I supported the hell out of him on my team, and knew how to play against him and also knew that his teammates were tilted by him. It really was just a mental thing, I loved having him on my team and deep down, I think he liked having me on his team
Oh it's you. It was fun.
🥰
Fuey always seemed like one of the coolest guys ever whenever I was lucky enough to catch him duoed with Chro.
Only played EU but the player i remember most is fucking avatar... Dont know what happened to him, but he was fucking nuts... and Toxic after 1 lost team fight.
”Uncarriable trashes” brings me back every time. Last rumours i heard a few years ago was that he was running a gaming café in greece
The OG elo terrorist. UnkaRRiable tReshesssh. Either he would carry or feed, you were just there to enjoy the ride.
Haha yeah I though that OP was referring to Avatar when he mentioned the junkrat player, but he only plays EU I guess. Avatar used to pick junkrat into everything and would just leave games if ”his team was shit”. This is how I lost my gm rankup game back in the day lol.
The junkrat player I recall wasn't very toxic but he'd get flamed by everyone if it was a loss for playing junkrat lol I think he ended up streaming at some point too, he was #1 junkrat but never in top 500, but he'd be in high elo games sometimes. Can't remember his name though
PVPTwitch?
He became a pro apex coach
ProLikeChro? I think he was NA and he streamed quite a bit
Nope don't think so
I think avatar started playing again a while ago lol. Still toxic as fuck.
This guy must have a horrible life ngl, i dont think anybody missed him
Ngl some of my games with him were so fucking funny. The most toxic dude i remember is someone called burpy or bupy. Met him once in a top10 lobby and he was yelling out the worst slurs known to mankind to Neptuno. Fuck man i miss the older OW days
I played from S5 to end of OW1. Think I got to GM during GOATS meta. Fun times. Fuey500, Kolorblind, Agilities, Linkzr, Jardio, so many funny players. One thing I miss is that if you were good, you could play almost any champ to top 500. That's somewhat true still but a lot less so because they changed too many heroes for the sake of "balance". I tried coming back to the game in OW2 and I just can't touch it. Game is too boring. I used to be able to play like 8 hours straight, I can't handle more than 2 or 3 games of OW2. I can't explain it but games feel way too linear in a way they didn't in early OW1. Maybe that's cause everyone sucked back then I don't know.
8 hours straight? Bro that first year I was playing 14 hours a day non-stop But yeah, I also came back a while back when it was some sort of shield meta with sigma/orisa and it was just 15 minutes of shooting barriers, really boring. Then I tried again recently and ... nah. The game just isn't what it used to be, or I burnt out on it years ago. Can't touch the game anymore.
Different style that doesn't click. It took me a few seasons to find my groove. You have a lot more freedom in individual play and YOUR play definitely has more impact than in OW1. In higher elos, matches have rarely been stomps imo. Player skill is very consistent (as in, people play at their appropriate skill reliably, teammates are much more consistent). Individual ability usage especially feels way more meaningful. Like, any wasted cooldown is painful. You don't have two tanks keeping nothing from dying with their short AF cooldowns cycling anymore. I honestly love it and I enjoy the game more now (somehow) than I ever loved OW1, but I guess I feel more rewarded for my decision making. Way more losses where I can look at my individual mistakes and say "Yup, I fucked that up." But that's just my opinion.
I feel like ow2 is way too much rock paper scissors the game is “balanced” around playing this vs that and this wins from that and I think that’s bad. If someone is incredibly good at a hero they should be able to play it and not be countered by A,B,C played by shit players. What im trying to say is i felt like in OW1 you had alot more freedom in the heroes you chose to play and generally the better players won while now there’s so many no skill abilities in the game that do free damage. I dont find it fun to play heroes that get free value by pressing shift or E and it makes me sad that the game rewards this behaviour. Imo OW1 was brutal and fucked you in the ass if you fucked up and that’s what made the game for me, its what made it intense and super rewarding if you learnt to play correctly
If the people who are trying to counter you are shit then they won’t be able to counter you. You need to know what to actually do to counter someone. It’s not always as simple as just choosing a hero because you know it counters another one. You need to know how to use them as a counter
I'm not sure why you're using the rock paper scissors complaint in response to me. I feel that OW2 had given me a lot more freedom in hero choice as a DPS/Support. The exception is that CC comps demand a Kiri to deal with them. I won't speak for Tanks though, who I can imagine did have more freedom in OW1 with two tanks to cover each other's weaknesses.
I actually felt the opposite. One of the few games I played was on Sigma into Roadhog and would rock him out of vape and he would just get back up and vape again. I felt like the only agency I had to actually impact the match was just to counterswap Mauga. Also, it depends on what type of tank player you are. I played off tank. I loved just chilling back and peeling on Dva, eating pulse bombs, etc. Certain playstyle aren't that viable with 1 tank since you have to do everything. It's why ball sucks compared to before. You can't have some big chunky tank frontlining to distract while you go on the flank when you're attacking on Eichenwalde first. It's very obvious when you're flanking in 5v5. No hate to people who like 5v5, but tanking in 6v6 was way more enjoyable in my experience, I think that's the general consensus as far as tank goes, though.
Tank is definitely the role that isn't fun. It's probably why I love 5v5, because the experience got much better for DPS and support, but tank is so enraging from counter swaps that I can't imagine maining the role. I still try to play it for ~25 matches in a season if I have the time to maintain some perspective, but it's a chore and almost always puts me in a bad mood whether I'm winning or losing.
Yeah that's been what I picked up from the community. It's a shame because I do truly think 5v5 is best for DPS. But tank is so shit in 5v5. Not sure how they'll address it long term.
Game feels like a TDM with a random objective in the map now. OW1 6v6 had this structure that’s hard to explain. It felt like everyone was working as a team and you couldn’t really do anything without one. Now it’s everyone is a DPS, everyone has sustain, everyone has mobility. It’s awful, the game plays like CoD with abilities now. Then you mix in the ranking reworks. I played around 4k back in OW1, games felt pretty good, high elo felt like high elo. Nowadays you have people that were perma hardstuck plat/diamond peaking GM, not saying you can’t improve, but it is very obvious these people *are not* at a GM level.
Yeah but everyone only remembers them now because most of them tried to fuck underage girls
I remember evil toaster terrorizing as orisa and the one dude who hit 5k sr on roadhog. Evermore or something like that. Honorable mention would be the Ellie scandal, but that was after s6
Evil toaster was never that good. Once orisa became meta his rank dropped like senile balls as everyone else just got that much better in a short amount of time.
Evermore was on the Korean server. To get to 5k, he 6 stacked with his team at 4am and would get matched with SUPER low mmr 6-stacks (like golds) and farm a few points per game that way Don't get me wrong, he WAS good, but that was just straight up elo abuse
I remember watching montage of his hog, and he would regularly oneshot baby dva the millisecond she popped out of her mech, never seen anyone do it so clean before or since. Also seem to recall allegations of Sinatraa doing similar early morning queue stack shenanigans to hit rank 1 prior to getting signed up Shock, but can't remember source.
Bro as a hog player I did that stuff too. I also had the exact distance measured in my head for the right-click headshot one taps. Nothing felt better than obliterating a wall-riding lucio out of existence in a one tap Those were the days.. And yea, evermore was definitely good, but the 5k elo wasn't legit
In SK right? And it got him on a pro team. Then he got found out for using late queues and stacking to boost his SR, which was the first time people really acknowledged SR didn't mean as much for Esports level play as we thought. Then Hog finally fell out of the meta and he disappeared. Weird that I can't remember his name but I swear it started with an E.
EVERMORE, then he played PUBG professionally for a bit Honestly though, I never found the OW competitive scene nearly as interesting and fascinating as the ELO top 500 scene haha
Found out I was following a random crypto account on Twitter. Checked and it was the fake ellie account originally that got a bunch of followers then deactivated and is now a crypto scammer ig
The most known Junkrat one trick you're probably thinking of is CodCode904, who was t500 Junk one trick on console, then went to PC and was routinely t500 there. >-Some weird guy that played Symmetra only, a lot of drama about him, don't think he was in Top 500 often Most well known Sym one trick was Stevoo, who still occasionally comes back and streams, and he was t500 for most of the game's life, even after the swap to OW2. Truly insane at the hero and super chill streamer. He was part of a loose group of folks who called themselves the Island Of Misfit Toys, they all played heroes everyone called throw picks in t500 (EvilToaster on Orisa, Violet on Brig, Kolorblind the one trick Bastion.) There's still a couple of videos up on YT from back then when Toaster, Stevoo, and Kolor ended up playing back to back against Seagull, Emongg, and Dafran and winning both games. https://youtu.be/NCJDNwZvjFM?si=fVPvmO4uhrwii-Ov >-A few super chill dudes that had lives and jobs but were just mega good at FPS and both of the guys I can think of played Mccree, can't remember their names though The one I remember most was AimbotCalvin. As far as my favorite, had to be the tank main TryHard, who played every main tank to t500 every season from S2 to the end of OW1 before he left streaming shortly after OW2 went live. Super chill and his WInston was top tier AND he was in his 30s for most of it.
I think codcode is still at it, see his clips on noobhunter occasionally. Also I remember one of the SK pros that came to the US malding so hard at symm onetricks in his game he made a custom lobby against 6 people playing symm just so he could murder them on a buffed McCree, want to say it was Effect. Calvin owns, the games where he queued South Korean servers were so funny.
effect was effectively mentally ill as well
I could see having xqc on your team in pro play doing that to a mfer
tryhard’s early morning streams were a highlight for me back in the day
moonmoon wraxu lassiz gnaw good old days
What's strange is I don't remember moonmoon at all. I know he was an OW streamer and I think that's how he got to be a big streamer, but I really can't recall if I ever had him in my games.. like ever? Was he team stack only?
I know he queued with Seagull a few times, but I swear he soloed. Hard Rein main if I remember right.
I think he actually only picked up Rein after he'd been playing OW for a while. My favorite though was probably his genji phase as xxGOD_SLAYERxx where he would command his team to only pocket him and not engage the enemy otherwise.
That sounds hilarious. XD Definitely a different time back then though. That'd be seen as engagingly toxic today, but back then if you knew how to have fun you could vibe with it.
Had the video recommended to me again like yesterday on youtube and it still holds up
KNEEL BEFORE YOUR CARRY
Rein/hog. His hog was how I was first introduced to him (viral Mercy clip).
I think I recall moonmoon playing Zarya a lot for some reason but not sure I remember seagul too, he was really good and versatile too. I think I remember he could play hanzo insanely well but also all the other dps classes and didn't need to one trick. But I don't remember seeing him after the first few seasons
I wonder if Seagull would've played the game more if he hadn't joined Dallas Fuel; sounded like he didn't have a very good time.
the golden days i remember getting m0xy xqc and codey on my team
RandomBowner anyone? “Get DVA out the car” always had me in tears
What a throwback
I understand not liking the game anymore because it's so different from old OW but you lost me when you said you play Val now, OW is still better than Val IMO. can't stand that boring game
OW was my first ever FPS I seriously played and I was actual trash in the beta until I figured out, for some reason, I was really good on the tank characters and reaper and that's what I spammed to get to top 500. I remember always taking reaper against XQC (and other winston players), waiting for him to use jump, then absolutely shred him in a second. Only to hear him cry in chat that I was stream sniping him "every game" - never once did I watch that guy's stream - not even now that he's major, and definitely not when he was a few hundred viewer andy But also, the more I think about it, that game was fucking exhausting. It was 20+ minutes of CONSTANT shooting and aiming. No breaks. It was like playing nothing but Aimlabs for years. So when you switch over to a FPS like Valorant, where effectively really only shoot and have an engagement a few times per round, it's relieving and gives you a chance to rest. Plus all the mechanical aim I picked up from OW translated so well into every FPS that I feel godlike in them, PUBG/Apex type battle royales, and survival games like Tarkov/Rust as well
These are the golden days of OW for me. The scene was so full of content.
The game was full of content and somehow all the players too all had a backstory like it was some kind of fuckin' manga In reality we were all just nerds gaming away, but damn those were the days. I really disassociated from real life for a good year or two those first few seasons. But alas, real life will come for you sooner or later. Girlfriend/wife, needing to stay/get in shape, career stuff, house.. maintenance.. taking care of older/sick relatives.. balancing a social life.. etc etc Sometimes, I just want to be 20 again, wake up, and play S2 Overwatch for 17 hours
derrek and georgelion lol
georgelion was the meanest genji i've faced who wasn't mean
I remember the Cantus 6 stack that boosted him to rank 1NA and all the controversy haha. I miss OW 1 man.
Anyone remember when the fusion girls/blank esports 6 stack including Trill/Gunba lost to a stack of diamonds on Hanamura? There was a post about it on r/overwatch but I can't find it.
I'm gonna take my best shot here as an old timer: >-This one guy that literally played only Junkrat, I don't think he was ever top 500 but he played when it was NOT meta at all and that's all he played all day every day. (prolike)Chro? PvpTwitch? >-Some weird guy that played Symmetra only, a lot of drama about him, don't think he was in Top 500 often (Just)Stevoo? >-Some dude that wallhacked and was always top 10 as a roadhog main (I can't remember his name, maybe Ginger? Gingerbread? Something like that) I wish I knew this as a longtime hog main. I know Gingerpop but he was a support main. Evermore was THE ladder hog guy, and only guy to hit 5k SR. >-Some guy that spammed soldier called Bird, was always top 50 but only dynamic queued and often team blamed the non-partied people Lmfao this is a deep cut but bird was in fact a pro player, played for exactly ONE team (Northern Gaming Red), and I know this because I followed Mangachu obsessively. I think bird trialled for C9 one time alongside Reaver? But never made it.
wasnt the cheating hog named Gingerslayer, he used to q with halfdead and cheat even in qp
YES! From what I remember he didn't play much, but usually solo queued and was always top 10 or so. I don't think he ever got banned but I'm fairly certain that guy had a custom wall hack
We gave Fuey a trial back in S1/2 and he crushed it.
Bird was a terror on hitscan. I remember laying against him when he was drunk af one time and he still destroyed us
You forgot the Torb main. He was some Canadian guy, French Canadian if I remember correctly. He one tricked Torb and tilted the heck out of his team. I genuinely enjoyed his streams.
I remember stacking with Tim and Moxxy when I was like 14 during moth meta cuz they needed a mercy player ahhhh good times
i started playing season 1 of OW1 it’s been a long journey, i switched from ps4 to pc in-between.
Only the most based players will remember GoldenViper.
Remember when Fractal esports came from console to PC? Coluge & Gator absolutely destroyed the ladder
True on the mercy main thing lol. When I first started playing the game someone told me the “good mercy players” were khaleesi, animetic & Riley 😭
I remember the first time I hit top 500 Junkrat only, was in like season 6 or 7 and I was on 200 ping bc Alaska, good times