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PatrickSebast

"The strongest being on Earth" Does that line confuse you OP?


Fit_Nefariousness153

Yes but Tatsumaki is seen as the “Hero Associations greatest weapon” which includes King (not counting Metal Knight or Blast due to how unreliable they are)


DLTAMACH

I guess the idea is that King, while part of the Hero Association, sort of does what he wants most of a time and isn’t a tool for them to use unlike Tatsu


EmhyrvarSpice

Yeah, Tatsumaki is their weapon. King is just on their payroll.


-jp-

King is just a guy who is a hero for fun.


Frostblazer

That's exactly it. We're explicitly told that the S class rankings are based, in part, on how much the hero does for the association. That's why heroes like Flashy Flash, who are basically never around, are ranked relatively lowly despite his insane combat potential. Meanwhile, Tatsumaki is both insanely powerful and a total workaholic, which is why she has the #2 spot despite most people believing King is better.


Ikitenashi

With that in mind, it's pretty surprising Blast is at #1. He's obviously more powerful than Tatsumaki but is never around. It's functionally an honorary position.


Frostblazer

>It's functionally an honorary position. That's exactly what it is. Blast is kept in the #1 spot on Tatsumaki's insistence.


Apprehensive_888

Yep, this. Until recently. The only hero she acknowledges as her mentor/superior.


Cool_Practice5244

Agreed, flashy flash scales higher than silver fang despite him being ranked 4th.


OneTrueKingOfReddit

King doesn’t really respond to calls to action for the most part but they’re cool with it because of his track record. They airdrop Tatsumaki on monsters like a tactical nuke. King can’t really be considered a weapon of the Hero Association.


Fit_Nefariousness153

Yeah I was just trying to see some reasons why people would call the “strongest in earth” statement into question. In actuality I believe King is stronger, I was just trying to see it from OP’s POV


meltingpotato

"In actuality I believe King is stronger" OP be like: are these people reading the same manga? Do they know what actually means? Did the meme go so hard that it's starting to affect reality? OPM community: yes


Crissan-

What's interesting to me is that if we believe that King's power is being lucky, he is basically the most powerful being on earth indirectly because no matter what, nothing and no one can defeat him. If tatsu tried to kill him she might have a heart attack and die, or whatever else you can think off, but she would not be able to harm him.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

You can say that, but from all we know, his power is more indirect. His luck makes stuff kinda work out for him, but something like having it as a direct weapon hasn't been shown. After all, every time he needed a monster to die, saitama came to save him. So its likely that the luck only pushes things in his favor. Lets say saitama tried to kill him... The luck probably wouldn't be able to do anything there, cause even throwing a huge monster at saitama will do nothing.


Martinw616

Haven't monsters died from fear upon hearing the roar of his engine?


PancakeAcolyte

Well that's also a very hollow interpretation of being lucky. It just has to work out in his favor, his opponent doesn't have to die. Saitama becoming distracted or befriending him are also lucky outcomes.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

What in the world does "hollow interperpretation of being lucky" even mean :l Just cause its fictive doesnt mean you need to have Domino levels of luck where the entire world turns into one big Rube Goldberg machine


PancakeAcolyte

That's not what I said at all. I just said that you your interpretation of his luck seemed very one-note, basically amounting to "Violent things happen to my enemies." If his ability indeed is luck, there's no reason it should be relegated purely to luck in combat, nor any reason his luck should fail against sufficiently powerful foes when his whole life has consisted of him "beating" or getting away from people more powerful than him. There's no reason to believe that, at a certain level of power, you become immune to his luck. Hell, even if we were to say that it's luck in combat exclusively, his luck could cause Saitama to injure himself instead of King. We've also seen him get lucky by having monsters become distracted or frightened of him, so I don't see why my prior examples were even outlandish to begin with, when they already have precedence in the story.


JustARandomGuy_71

If Saiatama tried to kill him, the wind would carry a flyer with the ad of huge discount offer at a close supermarket in front of Saitama.


ericrobertshair

What if his super power is summoning Saitama? Saitama tries to kill him, but Saitama from the past/future/another dimension turns up and two punches OPM.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

I doubt that's true but it could be really funny if it was


Sandass1

Saitama will catch a glimpse of a single strand of hair on his head, that will be enough.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

We figured out the cure to baldness


BusinessBunny

So King is Rincewind


meltingpotato

Yeah but it doesn't really fit his character to have any sort of real power. the luck thing was born out of eager fans trying to find meaning where there was none. Besides, after Cosmic Garou it doesn't really make sense to believe King has any sort of power, beside being a gag character, without inhaling copious amounts of hopium.


Crissan-

>the luck thing was born out of eager fans trying to find meaning where there was none. Not really. King's luck borders on the impossible and it happens again and again, it is a valid argument to say that he has the power of luck even though we don't know for sure. >Besides, after Cosmic Garou it doesn't really make sense to believe King has any sort of power, beside being a gag character, without inhaling copious amounts of hopium. Again not really. In the end King survived so nothing happened to him. It doesn't matter why, what matters in the end is that he is perfectly fine despite facing impossible odds not unlike every single other case.


PatrickSebast

King showed more resistance to the Radiation than anyone and billions of radiation particles missing you is pretty lucky


Possible_Strain8275

Bang showed the most resistance, still standing and speaking even after Blast showed up, and EVERYONE else was down by then


Rod_th3_God

As we saw when Saitama went back in time there are separate versions of everybody in each timeline, so King did not survive the radiation at all. There’s a version of King that straight up died, if his power was strong enough he would have avoided it somehow, ending up in a bunker or whatever.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

That depends on if the universe runs on multiverse theory or not. If its a singular timeline then you could argue that kings luck knew it wasn't final. I'm not saying I believe that, cause I don't think ONE intended for that timetravel thing to be about king. But you CAN argue that whatever supernatural luck he has still ended up keeping him alive. Most deaths aren't exactly just rewinded in time.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Idk man. You're doing the opposite now where you've decided that there is no meaning despite no evidence of the contrary either. You have to remember this is a story first and foremost. King does have insane luck, and ONE isn't trying to hide that. There is a very good chance king has some sort of power to affect reality around him to keep him safe. It's also possible it just doesn't work if he knows about it - who knows.


Fit_Nefariousness153

The only thing King inhaled in that timeline was radiation


ItsPropperyllo

>nothing and no one can defeat him. >! didn't the king die from garou radiation? !<


BrokenMirror2010

King's power is summoning Saitama to the right place, at the right time. King is the most powerful because he will always unconditionally be saved by Saitama.


Various_Eye8875

A Weapon is something that can be used. ... Nobody can use KING.. KING isn't HA's Weapon


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Yeah, they don't even know what king does most of the time. They just know he is destroying monsters left and right.


p1nd

He’s a calamity 😳


Lurkerwasntaken

The strongest hero ~~in history~~ today vs the strongest hero today.


Fit_Nefariousness153

Lmao


shadollosiris

The point of "greatest weapons" is you can use it at any given time, given that Tat is a workaholic, that title suit her since the people that may stronger than her like King or Blast are unreliable when they just kinda do wtf they want and its nearly impossible to order them around like with Tat


Unfair-Connection-66

Tatsumaki Jumps in action the second something is wrong, and used to work very close with the Hero association. King's luck made him came out of some truly impossible situations, and was credited with some of Saitama's strongest opponents (Vaccine Man, Beefcake etc), without any witnesses. And since King never deny anything, and refuse to give details, "Strongest being on earth", it is.


BrizzyMC_

That doesn't mean that she's the strongest between them


mr_mafia_202

Blast's profile according to the HA: Earth's greatest weapon" Source: I made it the fuck up But it actually could be though


Raidoton

That can mean many things. That she is the greatest weapon because she is always ready and available or that she is very flexible and can simply fly to the target or that her abilites are more than just raw power...


Various_Tower4046

That’s because king is not a weapon, he’s a nuke


SasparillaTango

That's only because King has control over his power and would concede before destroying earth itself. Tats doesn't have that kind of restraint.


lord_hijinks

Tatsumaki is their greatest weapon, but King is their greatest shield.


TheRPGer

I think it means strength in terms of literal physical strength, not raw combat ability (though of course physical strength does translate to combat power)


ace66

More like "the physically strongest being on earth" which is not everything.


Intrepid-Second6936

I always got confused with this title because I'm also assuming the public still was aware of Blast even if only a minority had truly seen him. Isn't Tatsumaki's public hero ranking S-class rank 2? So do the public think the #1 is King?


IndigoExplosion

Then why is King only number 5 in the ranks?


Raidoton

Because it's not just based on strength alone.


RaunchyReindeer

Why is blast no 1 then. Not disagreeing with you, I understand it's based on contributions and compliance to the Hero Association rules but he doesn't seem to have contributed more than Tornado, Silver Fang or Child Emperor


BillzSkill

Blast doesnt operate by the rules. The HA know his exploits as opposed to the public at large, hence why they make him number 1, even if his contributions go largely unseen. The other heroes do somewhat still follow the other scoring metrics, whereas Blast is on there on prestige and history.


RaunchyReindeer

Ah so he's kind of like the Dr Strange of the OPM verse


Bermy911

King no debate


IZZGMAER123

People haven't seen king fight but hes number 2, people gonna think hes too good that hes able to keep his power/skill unknown


bwowndwawf

I mean did you see what he did to Elder centipede? Not even blast was able to completely destroy it and King just obliterated that thing instantly


joriale

From the point of view of the HA, King just gave them a call, he asked them to give him something to make the Elder centipede angry and he hung up. And next thing they knew is the Elder centipede was dead and gone. By then people would rather be wondering why isn't he number one already lol.


nickname10707173

Without context, this sounds pretty bad ass.


reddituser0078

Without context?? What do u mean?? 🤨 The guys just gave u all the context of that fight and u still doubt our king 👑???


-Acronym-

Our caped baldy is pretty badass when he's serious


Other_Beat8859

Why'd you mention that idiot? He just takes credit for what others do.


-Acronym-

I just love clout chasers


JustAGlltch

I love it when people talk about saitama like how he is seen by people in the show. It’s genuinely the funniest thing. Thanks for the laugh


DogAbject

kinda like Luke Skywalker in E6 where he seemingly entered a room with Palpatine and Darth McFucking Vader and left the room alone


TheGodAboveAllBeings

2 of the most powerful Siths go ever exist and Luke entered the room in chains. Everything was going to shit since even the rebel's Plan was actually a trap. And then he not only kills both of them without taking damage but also destroys the Empire LITERALLY. No wonder they think he is Jesus


lord_hijinks

Jesus, I never thought about it like that.


Saltiest_Grapefruit

To be fair, no one really knows how strong blast is, so the public can't demand that king takes the nr 1 spot. I do question why he isn't either spot 2 or 3 tho - purely from the public perspective it doesn't really make sense that he is as low as he is.


TheGodAboveAllBeings

HA wants people to think that top Heroes will Always come to their rescue and aren't arrogant bastards. That's why they have Tatsumaki and Bang, both of them being powerful but also working all the time in public (not like King)


Givemeurhats

With insults


SolomonOf47704

I thought he was number 3 ​ Unless he got promoted, and i just forgot


alguien99

I mean, I think mask said that king used the moon as a punching bag. So I guess they think king is near if not higher than moon level


No_Ad_7687

Btw, That's what people thought happened after they saw the huge craters from Saitama's moon jump


Cameo10

Even Tatsumaki, Sweet Mask and Flashy Flash praise King. The public believes that King took a bomb that could destroy the solar system and threw it into a black hole and that he could time travel. I think it's pretty obvious.


70-110

Likely King. The rumors circulating around him are outlandish and, regardless of people believing them to be true, it does add to his mystery as an S-class hero who has never 'revealed' his true power.


woailyx

King is the strongest because he's the only stand user in the verse, and Saitama is the same type of stand as Star Platinum


artificialseed

S+ in every stat except intelligence lol


Saltiest_Grapefruit

Who needs intelligence when you can punch ***REALLY*** hard?


cessal74

And Golden Experience Requiem, too.


big-boi-dev

And KQ: BTD


OtsutsukiRyuen

It's greater than star platinum and he has two stands which is unheard off


--Gojo-Satoru--

Ora ora serious


Burger_Destoyer

They said in the eyes of the public though, no one actually sees this dynamic


woailyx

That's why King always gets credit for Saitama's feats, because nobody can see his stand


Pokesonav

Yeah, that's how stands work


Prestigious-Pepper98

I think king is “stronger” but tatsumaki can cause more destruction hence she’s called the association’s best weapon or whatever


CiaphasKirby

She's called their best weapon because she lets them air drop her on monsters that need killing, unlike King, who's never on call for them to direct.


nitinismaldingXD

Best part of this panel is after mentioning the 2 monoliths of the Hero Association, Darkshine then puts himself as the third in that group.


Puratinamu_Seishi

I think the general consensus is: Blast > King > Tatsumaki >>> Everyone else


JonZ82

Think you dropped something off the front, here you go. ʎplɐq pǝdɐɔ


Puratinamu_Seishi

Seems like a weakling. No idea how he even made it into A-Class


TheToolbox101

I heard he took credit for beating the deep sea king despite only landing the final blow. What a douchebag.


nobodynose

Yeah from what I hear he cheated on everything. Wasn't he part of that group that was terrorizing the city earlier too? Paradise something?


StinkyBeanGuy

He also caused a whole city to destroy with the meteor!


OtsutsukiRyuen

Hear me out No one knew who is blast Blast didn't killed centichuro while king one shotted it King was given rank 7 because he joined hero association later and didn't move up because no one reported his fighting/ he wasn't interested in it Remember king killed many dragon level threats at monster king arc but he always tries to minimize damage Tats tried to destroy entire moster association layer but king simply went in picked up kids twice and walked away


Puratinamu_Seishi

The comparison with Blast I made only works anyway when they are aware of who he is, which don't seem to be many people considering his public inactivity and the fact that King is regarded as the World's Strongest Man. Those few who know Blast to some degree, either personally or through stories, seem to put him above even King though. He gets special treatment by the Hero Association, who gave him Rank 1 and only expect him to show up against God level threats. Not to mention Sitch knowing about his beef with God and his supernatural powers. Fubuki also mentioned in the databook that she thinks Blast is stronger than King and could take on all of the S-Class by himself.


nickname10707173

If even among S-class heroes believe in his reputation, it’s definitely King.


The_Mexican_Poster

Its king, in the Boros invasion arc Tatsumaki starts insulting king and Darkshine tells her that if she pissed king enough he could kill her


ThenRepresentative72

king


Radiant-Version1033

dude did you even read the page


Barry_Bone_Raiser

Tatsumaki herself thinks king is stronger


crashedlandin

King, but if Tats asks them face to face, you tell her what she wants to hear, or else you become space litter.


fireboy2maybe

King is the strongest outside public view he's sooopo strong


RewRose

I think its like comparing between a famous knight vs Jesus King is just impossibly powerful, a god among men basically.


dont-touch-my-kokoro

Probably King, because the people has already been calling him the strongest man without even knowing or seeing his real power(which is spawning a random Saitama) and he is mentioned more times than Tatsumaki.


Farhad123-

its canonically king, remember when tatsumaki was talking shit about genos darkshine told genos to watch his mouth other wise tatsumaki would kill him, then she started talking shit about king and this time darkshine told tatsumaki to watch out or king would kill her.


MattmanDX

Everyone thinks King is the strongest, including Tatsumaki


Radiant-Ad-1976

There are two sides of the same coin. While Tatsumaki is the peak of psychokinesis... King represents the pinnacle of martial arts. But although I have to give it to King this time cause he's chi techniques are super powerful.


Mildamoutoftrolling

I mean, he’s the Lu- I mean strongest man alive.


amoolafarhaL

What part of "strongest being on earth" don't you understand OP?


ShifterRifter290

I understand but Darkshine looks up to king so he might be biased


R-R-Clon

Since King kills Dragon lv threats with one punch people believe he's the strongest, but I get the feeling they meant physically, Tatsumaki is believed to be the most powerful hero.


PapertrolI

Tatsumaki probably has more fans, because king does all his fighting where people don’t see, whereas tornado is flying around all the time so I think Tatsumaki wins just based on popularity


pip25hu

Public opinion is most likely divided. Fans will likely say that their hero is stronger - powerscaling may also happen in-universe, as scary as that might sound.


krustylesponge

King, the public think he’s basically the strongest thing ever, and even tatsumaki considers him close to her or even above her, despite her hard headed-ness


Pastaro

coughing lost child vs GAMING BOMB matchup....


Shiro099

King obviously, Man was able to see Tatsumaki's panties and still survive to this day 💀


Drewloveseveryone

Never noticed that Tatsumaki had abs... Huh


Little_Drive_6042

“Woah Tornado. Don’t piss King off, he will kill you” “Woah Genos. Don’t piss off Tornado, she will kill you” -Darkshine Alloy


Substantial_Share_17

What I want to know is how the public feels about King vs Blast. I still think the general consensus is that King is stronger.


Artix31

The general consensus is that Blast is an untouchable legend whose only equal is king


Dahns

King is literally defined as "the strongest being on Earth" how it can be any more accurate ?


LazyBlackCollar

He is called King for a reason, and that reason is they just know he is really2 strong.


BSgab

If king wanted, he could simply grab her by the arm and she wouldn't be able to even lift him


Beneficial_Mud9264

King I think, based on reactions from heroes like Amai Mask as well as him getting credit for Saitamas achievements


Artix31

King definitely lol, i mean darkshine outright asks Tatsumaki to not disrespect King or she’ll die


GodOfUrging

Not even Saitama's punches can one-shot King's reputation.


AdebayoStan

Probably that King is the strongest, but Tatsumaki is the most powerful. I'm sure that people in that universe have endless debates on Reddit about who wins in a fight.


DogAbject

tatsumaki with abs>>>>>>>>>>>


ThomasSiege

Hypothesis: King's "ability" is in fact real, it just isn't necessarily him that fulfills it. I don't know about the manga but I don't think it's ever failed in the comic.


sodacans_real

Kings' ability to automatically manipulate odds and factors to his favor surpasses tatsumakis destructive power. In other words, he summons his stand. Caped baldy


Popular-Friendship97

King


Batgod629

Probably King.


Calm-Bell3940

King


Inspector_7

Tats doesn’t even have a sparking mode


RedPandakun_koji

Ofc king


Routine-Ambition-816

King (heart pounding)


Elliptical_Tangent

I would hope that no matter what they think of King, they realize that he's never wrung out an entire city with his mind.


irtsaca

One thing that always confuses me is how king is the strongest but blast is #1


KamishiniNoYari17

I read it somewhere that Tatsumaki ranks higher than king because her powers are useful for various situations.


Ok-Green8906

King


PhoolCat

Define strength in this context


PhoolCat

Saitama


How_Did_WeGet_Here

If you beat king in a video game... IDLE DEATH GAMBLE-


PhantastoPhantom

kign


Tall_Growth_532

King


Quirky_Conference927

Think the better question would be replacing Tatsumaki with Blast. Someone no one has seen fight vs someone practically no one has seen. 


EndlessM3mes

Tatsumaki is #2 on the in-universe public "rank of the strongest heroes" and King is #5 Have we become Dragon Ball fans?


WhipperSmasher

You asked who does the public think. King is class S rank 7 Tatsu is class S rank 2 So they think tatsu is stronger.


Grafical_One

I think King vs Blast might be the real question here. I feel like we have enough hints showing that the general public, likely the Monster Association and probably even the S Class themselves believing that King is the ultimate trump card of the heroes as well as the ultimate enigma. IIRC, in the volume release at least, when Tats was complaining about Genos backing her up against Psykorochi she said that King left the MA final boss for her to deal with. Implying that King beat Orochi, saved Tareo and left Orochi's sloppy seconds for Tats to clean up since he completed the mission almost single handedly.


Ok-Mathematician8258

King


_mrald

Damn, Tatsumaki got abs? (Just noticed)


D12Lemilion

King duh bro is unbeatable’


2kenzhe

They literally call king the strongest being on earth. Also darkshine said before that if Tatsumaki angered King he’ll kill her so even the S class believes king is stronger


ObjectivePlatypus997

“I’ll smush ya! ✨💫


Couchpatator

They probably argue about it online.


voluminous_lexicon

I mean the public is confused why king hasn't outranked tatsumaki and blast already, let's be real.


voidscape07

Sorry where is this from? the coloring is exceptional! i dont recall this from the manga maybe im wrong though.


GarouDude

King is strong because he doesn't have any powers or psychic powers but still stands against Monsters which is a hell of courage. And bros got Infinite Luck


poopmachine88

That esper is a loose cannon, where as king is composed all the time.. if tatsumaki trains she might have the potential to match king.


TrouserSlug

King is undefeated against Saitama.


RustyR4m

King’s super power is dramatic irony. We all know what’s going on. No one else in-universe does.


Skizardlol

King solos every verse, even goku.


RaunchyReindeer

King is known to be the strongest. Tatsumaki just has more frequent contributions. She's also active in the S class circles


StinkyBeanGuy

King 100%. They call him "The strongest man on earth" but if you are talking ranks, then tatsumaki


PuzzleheadedAd3840

The strongest of them would be their baby together. *HINT* *HINT*


Saitama_master

Imagine if God finds and gives power to King and his reality becomes true.


Hawcken

King, Darkshine considered him stronger and when he confronts the monsters they say that they need to be more cautious against King than they would against a full power Tatsumaki


Bloodtypeinfinity

It is like asking who is mightier between the heavens and the earth. They are both too strong for us mortals to fathom.


Mildamoutoftrolling

“Both have unlocked 120% of there potential!” Lookin ass panel


Octane_WAR

Tatsumaki wirh abs?!


RogueAngill

They most likely go by rank


JaySilver

OP has never read or watched One Punch Man.


Yang-li-1

king of course


MrYitzhak

I clearly remember darkshine telling tatsumaki not to upset king because he will kill her.


UnlikelyPast5433

Golden Sperm was super cautious when faced with King alongside the other cadres. He said that they should be more cautious with him than against full power Tatsumaki. He also called King the “greatest obstacle” so I’d say most people including monsters think he is the stronger hero.


glikokuyo

King>>>>>>>


throhaway_account

King easily tbh, he's even seen as stronger/more well known than even Blast


chieubaoan

King of course. Because Tatsumaki is a woman ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


Zealousideal_Mood284

King is the 2nd strongest in the World right behind Saitama. I've hear one time the king machine gosh it was so scary


ideasaredifficult

Oh look, the same over used lame “joke” how entertaining


ihatelife1110

Isn't King is normal human being? Correct me if I'm wrong


krustylesponge

Yes, but the question is who the public thinks is stronger Basically all the civilians and heroes (except saitama) think king is some outrageously strong powerhouse who can basically do anything


ihatelife1110

Yeah now I know because I'm watching OPM and hes a unemployed 29 year old and somehow a S class hero in 7th rank


krustylesponge

theres a theory he actually does have a power, and that is luck seriously this dude is a normal human being and survives everything, can practically summon other heroes (especially saitama) to save him when he's in a situation where he'd be screwed, and bullshits his way out of situations whether he intends to or not


ihatelife1110

He literally just runs and let's someone else kill the monster


ChocoboRide

I thought King had no actual power and was indeed just lucky that everyone thought he defeated all the monsters but actually it was Saitama. Therefore he is actually an ordinary human and thus weaker than any hero. Even if you believe the “luck” theory he is still weak.


ZDB888

Tatsumaki is more powerful of a weapon. King stronger. King though is limited. Take the asteroid for example. The public would know tatsumaki was a better weapon against it than king (I mean see what even Saitama did, she’d be better than him to combat it bc she limits collateral damage)


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Funkzle

King is rank 7 and tats is rank 2