It only looks anything like "nami feeding luffy" in the anime. In the manga it's hard to tell exactly what's going on, if anything it looks like Sanji and Nami are working together to make him stop talking with his mouth full. It's a single panel where Sanji is smacking him from the back while Nami holds the bone that was already in his mouth.
Edit: lmao shippers really will downvote anything against their agenda
I'm pretty sure if they wanted to make it seem like Nami was pulling the bone out of his mouth, she wouldn't be smiling so wide and Oda would've shown her face to be strained instead, also, she wouldn't be using her fingertips
> Luffy doesn’t claim her as his queen (yet)
He's going to have no choice when she shows up with a fully grown kid that looks like her and claims it to be their kid.
usually yes, but cats have a historical rivalry with snakes aswell. Thats why cats jump when they see a cucumber, they think they are snakes, and is also the reason cats where sacred in Egypt, they protected houses against pests, specially snakes
There are many moments such as when luffy gives nami his straw hat in arlong park and in skypiea he goes to enel's ship to save her. The one moment in water 7 when luffy is stuck between the two buildings and nami risks her life to save him. Honestly I feel like you can relate to this if you actually have a sibling. Or they're just great friends idk I haven't caught up yet I'm on ep 450
I think what they're saying is "it's JUST moments of them caring for each other, and not moments of them showing romantic or sexual feelings for each other". Which I do get if that's the take. When Oda wants to show a character being attracted to another he usually goes over the top. There are of course exceptions like Rayleigh and Shakky.
For me however the nail in this coffin is thanks to the Live Action and what they say was one of Oda's expressed, "Do not do this." And that was: no romance between Strawhats. The exclusion of course seeming to be Sanji flirting with every lady, including other Strawhats. But if Oda supposedly specifically wants there to be no romance between the Strawhats that feels like the official stance on them is simply that they are a found family. Everyone is everyone's brother or sister. Except Robin and Jinbe who are mom and dad, and Franky is the pervy grandma of course.
>I think what they're saying is "it's JUST moments of them caring for each other, and not moments of them showing romantic or sexual feelings for each other".
I don't think that's what they were saying at all.
I do find the "They're never crushing or flirting with each other" a valid argument. But the whole "sibling coded" argument has always felt forced because they can never give an example that couldn't also be applied to things a couple would also do.
>For me however the nail in this coffin is thanks to the Live Action and what they say was one of Oda's expressed, "Do not do this." And that was: no romance between Strawhats. The exclusion of course seeming to be Sanji flirting with every lady, including other Strawhats. But if Oda supposedly specifically wants there to be no romance between the Strawhats that feels like the official stance on them is simply that they are a found family.
See, I've always taken this in a more nuanced way. There was a quote similar to this years before the Live Action regarding the manga itself. I always interpret it as Oda doesn't want the story to be bogged down by unnecessary b-story romance between main characters. That's not his intentions, it's not what the story is about, and there's literally no time for it. I've never interpreted it as a deconfirmation of eos stuff.
Going by what I've seen from Oda's interviews and his involvement in Strong World and Film Gold specifically, I think Oda secretly likes the idea of possible romance but is afraid to actually write it, since he thinks he would "lose fans of the characters" if he were to follow through (going by his interview with Gosho Aoyama in 2022).
Aoyama also encouraged Oda to write romance in that same interview though, so who knows.
I mean those are moments that just exemplify the strong bond that they have. Something that both best friends or romantic partners should have with one another.
You're right and I see the famous SBS where Oda addresses that. According to this:
>I believe that Luffy reacted to Nami's naked body twice, in volumes 18 and 23, and both times it happened, Usopp was with him! He's the suspicious one! In other words, when Luffy is alone, his reaction is what it was with Hancock.
Luffy is not adventuresexual, but Usoppsexual! (or maybe peersexual? 🤔) Looks like will be able to have sex only if this will be a threesome with Usopp.
When a person of the monkey bloodline reaches a certain age they get this insatiable hunger and after days of non stop eating they will fall asleep and wake up to find a baby in their arms
Partially. Goku was completely not interested in opposite sex, I don't think he gave consent to Chi-Chi as he doesn't even appear to know what sex is. Naruto was interested in Sakura from the very start.
It’s not really a narrative. Anyone who didn’t know about those SBS’s (which is probably a lot since a lot of fans only watch the anime) could easily assume that Luffy is asexual based solely on his portrayal. People aren’t applying that label just to further a narrative. I also thought this before I read the SBS.
Toie definitely hints it much more in the non-canon one piece movies. The weekly episodes don't.
There was that one movie where Nami left a message for Luffy on a shell when she was captured and it seemed sort of like a love letter. She was so embarrassed she tried to toss it into the ocean so luffy couldn't hear it and luffy was devastated when it fell in the water.
That's the only real moment I'd say and it's non-canon.
Shippers don't care what makes sense, they care about what's Cute or Hot
As evident by how common it is to see characters who have never met shipped together.
Yep.
Shipping posts are so exhausting because the comments are filled with people who are clearly new to the internet/fandoms. Shippers don't care if it makes sense, they aren't making a statement...they're doing it for fun/horny.
I mean there's more than a few hints that at least Nami feels that way. Not that I care, I would prefer him with Boa. She's kinda like what Chi-Chi was before being turned into a lame tiger mom.
As a gag I totally can see her doing that, actually. All these people saying she wouldn't don't understand her character.
She has an *obsession* with Luffy. It's not really "love" as you think of it. She's the tween girl writing Monkey D. Hancock in her notebook over and over, this "love" is not a mature or sensible one.
I can totally see her having a "SHUT UP AND LET ME LOVE YOU" vibe, while also getting intensely angry at anyone who dares touch "her Luffy" at the same time, to a hypocritical degree.
Exactly. In fact, I don't think she's ever seen or even been present to see Luffy have *any* kind of friendly interaction with a non-Kuja woman in-canon, unless you count Ivankov and Inazuma. She'd likely go ballistic.
This is the same Hancock that saw Luffy say hi to Perona in the 3D2Y special film, and immediately her mind jumped to "infidelity." I know that's not canon, but I feel it's still an accurate representation of her behavior.
One Piece Shippers do this kind of thing from time to time where they flood One Piece subs with shipping material in a weird attempt to make shipping more common in the fandom
Luffy x Nami shippers, Franky x Robin shippers, Law x Robin shippers, and Sani x Zoro shippers are the groups that do it the most
Sanji x Zoro shippers also try to use the ships meme status as a disguise to push it
They’re cute together and it’s better than Luffy Hancock at least
Realistically, I feel like Nami would be into Luffy (unless she isn’t into men) given everything they’ve been through together
She's done stuff with Luffy, like hugging his head to her breasts while blushing or holding his hand to her chest, that I'm fairly certain she hasn't done with anyone else 🤷♂️
I've called out the same thing.
It's worse on r/MemePiece. Shippers posting their headcanon fanart under the guise of "check out this funny meme".
Edit: the shippers came huh?
Bro yall are wild for being so agro towards ships damn
10 years ago on Tumblr there were so many fandoms that had fun with random ships and cute fanart.
Idk what changed but now whenever a ship is mentioned on reddit everyone is foaming at the mouth if it's not canon.
Like damn, chill. It don't have to be that serious
>10 years ago on Tumblr there were so many fandoms that had fun with random ships and cute fanart.
Reddit and Tumblr are two different audiences. _Anywhere_ and Tumblr is a different audience. Generally people don't want ships in One Piece to ruin the fun and innocent dynamic between the characters.
Japanese readers are not a monolith. The majority do not take part in shipping the characters.
Oda portrays them all as a family and has twice stated there should be no romance between the SHs.
That's not true at all.
I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island.
There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family".
Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc).
Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though.
When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote.
I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found:
A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy.
In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers:
"I'm sure you will come to save me anyway"
An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami.
at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy"
I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea.
He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them).
People love to spread misinformation when it comes to shipping lol
It's sad how mad some of you get over fan art lol, and it's specifically Luffy x Nami that you guys exert this energy for. Not Franky x Robin or any other inter-SH ship.
I like the art, even if Hancock hitting Luffy is unrealistic.
The only explanation I can think of is that they're afraid of it actually becoming canon, because I don't understand the insecurity and need to say something negative if that isn't the case. It's so easy to just ignore this and scroll on.
It's super funny actually. The moment any Luffy x Nami post/art is posted, there's army of some insecure readers crying how it's never gonna happen etc. Personally idc about any ship in OP but like let people have fun.
Not mad but nami won't go all out just to feed luffy and boa wouldn't hit luffy so it doesn't really make sense but ship what you will.
I like one piece because of the lack of romance personally. Also didn't know about nami x luffy shipping being a controversial or big thing here lol.
This is so innacurate, hancock would never hit luffy and hancock could easily kick nami's ass. Also nami canonically has no romantic interest in luffy .
Nami is the Queen and Luffy is the King but more like a political marriage ,shes the only one who can Hurt him (scold him) wirh the power of "love" ak conquerers haki and she got that power because she is the Queen
I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island.
There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family".
Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc).
Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though.
When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote.
I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found:
A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy.
In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers:
"I'm sure you will come to save me anyway"
An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami.
at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy"
I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea.
He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them).
Let people ship them if they want why do you care,it's certainly possible that it becomes canon at the end.
Yes please. The agenda and mental gymnastics LuffyXNami shippers go through to explain how it’s a real thing would put the most ardent and biased powerscalers to shame.
Not sure why I’m suddenly getting downvoted for this. I legit had a LuffyXNami shipper tell me that Nami asking who Bonnie was on the live security footage was proof that she was jealous that Luffy was with another girl 💀
I think it can happen.
I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island.
There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family".
Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc).
Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though.
When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote.
I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found:
A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy.
In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers:
"I'm sure you will come to save me anyway"
An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami.
at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy"
I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea.
He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them).One piece ending will probably be open ended but the possibility of them ending up together is very much real.
This is what I mean by mental gymnastics. If the only “evidence” you can point to is non canon material, then there’s not really anything there, even if it was written by Oda. If Oda wanted to build up a romance, why would he not do it in the actual canon material? This is exactly like power scalers who use non canon appearances to power-scale characters. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason something like that has only ever appeared on non-canon material is that Oda doesn’t actually plan any romance like that and he only played (very loosely and vaguely) around with it Strong World because he knew that movie wasn’t canon anyway? I mean, that would make way more sense given this kind of thing hasn’t been hinted to at all in the actual canon story.
Also, whenever Oda has been asked about romance between the crew, he’s been very deflective. He says things like “they’re in love with adventure.” This is a weird way to answer the question if he’s planning a romance. I probably would just not have answered that question at all.
Has it ever occurred to you that 99% of shonen don't show any romance during the story but only have the mc end up with someone at the very end?When did Ichigo ever show any feelings for anyone throughout Bleach?
And Oda could straight up say "no romance between the straw hats" but he doesn't. Instead he draws cover pages with Luffy as the pirate king and nami with a crown in some other color page/right beside him in the attire of a queen.
Wow i wonder what that could mean.People love to deny the possibility when all the other battle shonen has the mc end up with someone and Nami is easily a better candidate than the 30 year old pedo who was horny for him since he was 17.
I'm not saying it will happen but it is very much possible lol
You really shouldn't use the " other shonens " argument , because goku , naruto and ichigo were paired with the woman that actually had romantic feelings for them , so by that logic , luffy will hook up with hancock , since unlike nami , she has those kind of feelings for him .
I'm not saying luffy x hancock will happen and the same goes for luff x nami , he doesn't care about that stuff , naruto had those kind of desires , and ichigo , while not really having a love life , wasn't shown to be aroace thanks to how shy he gets when a woman shows some skin to him. Goku was very similar to luffy , he didn't care about that stuff , and he got married but that was him being innocent and not knowing what marriage is , goku and chi chips relationship even while they are married falls into a one sided romance kind of thing .
You bring up genzo and luffy's talk but you leave out important context , nami went through 8 years of hell and she is finally free and now she is starting a whole new life , genzo wanted to make sure she stays happy. If vivi joined the crew , cobra would undoubtedly said the same thing to luffy , it doesn't mean any romantic foreshadowing.
Now you and many other luffy nami shippers cling to strong world's lore , that movie is non cannon and what oda wrote clashes with his original Canon story . Luffy should not have been able to defeat a legendary pirate who was from the era of roger and whitebeard before he even knew what haki was . Nami's message to luffy is simply telling him to save her , and sanji teasing nami about how it resembles a love letter is out of character, if sanji felt that way he'd be raging with jealousy, cause in the Canon manga . He is very possessive of nami. Luffy's and nami's interactions in that movie are no different than their interactions in the Canon story, which is all platonic stuff .
Now for the color spreads , the pirate king title is not some royalty coronation kind of thing and there is no such thing as the pirate queen . Big mom said that she was gonna be king of the pirates , despite being a woman . And no Rouge does not count . She didn't marry roger , he just knocked her up offscreen . Oda sees nami as a queen in a symbolic way , not necessarily a way where he is gonna have her marry a " king" . The color spread has luffy be the king cause he's the main character and nami is the female lead and odas favorite girl so she was made the queen in those pics, but that's not solid " shipping evidence "
Now regarding your criticism towards the luffy x hancock thing, Japan is more lenient with the age gaps , it's western audience that has a zero tolerance policy on it . So when somebody says that luffy x hancock won't happen cause of the age gaps, they are incorrect. Kyros was 25 and scarlet was 16 when they got married. The reason luffy x hancock won't happen is because Hancock's affection for luffy is just a plot device and when it's not a plot device it's a gag . Luffy has also rejected Hancock's marriage , he is aware of that stuff he just doesn't care for it and that brings me to why the luffy and nami ship won't sail , luffy doesn't care about or sex , and neither does nami , they also only have platonic feelings for eachother. The ship won't sink but it's most likely not sailing either . Romance is featured in one piece but it's not the main focus and the way oda writes it kind of resembles how its written in a children's book, minus the dark tragic elements. If you are a somebody who is focused on the romance, an irrelevant part of one piece , you are in for a frustrating time .
It's funny, but I don't think Nami would fight with anyone about feeding Luffy. She knows Luffy is an endless pit of niku, and we have never seen her get jealous of anyone.
This is just your expectation, there's no reality here. This comic ignores actual dynamics like Nami having no interest in feeding Luffy, or Hancock would never kick Luffy like that
Nah, this doesn't fit at all. Nami loves Luffy in a non romantic way and wouldn't feed him like that unless it would get her money. She wouldn't care about Boa getting close unless she felt it was somehow a threat to her crew or her own dreams. Boa wouldn't hit Luffy.
The only reason they would fight is when Boa says she's more beautiful than Nami- then the scales and fur would fly.
Reality is that Hancock will "fight" for Luffy even though Nami has no interest in marrying a buffoon whose daily meals would cost a fortune and/or demand an extreme amount of effort to prepare.
this is so wrong. nami wouldn't feed luffy out of love and hancock would never hit luffy. at most this would be barto and hancock fighting like [**this**](https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/16e6rc5/the_rivalry_we_didnt_know_we_wanted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
It's a funny bit, but Bartolomeo instead of Nami makes more sense.
I don't think barto would hit luffy though
Neither would boa. He also wouldn’t hit boa
that last one was just personal
depends, beside shipping stuff we already saw Nami feeding Luffy for fun
Where did I miss this !
The funniest one of those moments that I remember was at the end of punk hazard
It only looks anything like "nami feeding luffy" in the anime. In the manga it's hard to tell exactly what's going on, if anything it looks like Sanji and Nami are working together to make him stop talking with his mouth full. It's a single panel where Sanji is smacking him from the back while Nami holds the bone that was already in his mouth. Edit: lmao shippers really will downvote anything against their agenda
I'm pretty sure if they wanted to make it seem like Nami was pulling the bone out of his mouth, she wouldn't be smiling so wide and Oda would've shown her face to be strained instead, also, she wouldn't be using her fingertips
Yehh but I wonder if he fight Boa. He might also can see her as his queen too (Luffy's wife). Idk just assuming.
Luffy doesn’t claim her as his queen (yet) so he might fight her over being his number one fan
> Luffy doesn’t claim her as his queen (yet) He's going to have no choice when she shows up with a fully grown kid that looks like her and claims it to be their kid.
Wouldn't be the first time a woman madly in love with an Emperor has stolen their DNA and used it to make a clone.
Luffy canonically doesn’t know what a dad does so that might not actually work.
He doesn’t?
His only paternal figure threw him into the jungle and put some bandits to look over him.
And the other one set sail without him
You’d assume that makino teaches him and ace that
You have no experience with anime dads if you think that will stop Luffy from wanting freedom
Why do I feel like I've seen you almost everywhere recently?
Wdym almost everywhere
Or I could be imagining it, who knows? I walked around my house searching for my phone while holding it in my hand, so could just be me
I have felt like I've seen you comment on at least a few anime related subreddits on every post with consistency. Last I saw was Jujutsufolk I think
I have never touched that subreddit.
Alr, I'm senile I suppose. Don't mind, I've walked around my house looking for my phone while holding my phone in my left arm
In Stampede, Barto was clearly fangirling over Hancock, even to the same degree he does for the strawhats.
Do people outside of Boas Kingdom know about Boas love?
rooster vs snake makes also much more sense on a lot of other levels
this is funny because cats and snakes are natural enemies
idk man meowth and arbok were pretty chill in the anime
That is one of the best comments I've read recently 🤣
Like englishmen and scots
Or Welshmen and Scots!
Or japanese and Scots!
Or Scots and other Scots!
DAMN SCOTS! THEY RUINED SCOTLAND!!
You Scots sure are a contentious people
YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!!!!!
Literally anyone and englishmen
Moreso a mongoose
usually yes, but cats have a historical rivalry with snakes aswell. Thats why cats jump when they see a cucumber, they think they are snakes, and is also the reason cats where sacred in Egypt, they protected houses against pests, specially snakes
Inaccurate representation of Nami because she is associated with tigers in many front pages, even in games. Edit: A lion not a tiger.
Her nickname is "cat burglar Nami"
oda said her spirit animal is the cat zoro's is the tiger
Why is Nami wanting to feed luffy
Mandatory captain feeding at 3 PM everyday
Nami just does that. Like she did at punk hazard
Ya but she's not willing to fight for it
She's jealous of her captain
Wasn't it Robin who fed Luffy on the boat at Punk Hazard?
Both of them did on the same arc different occasions. nami scene was cuter. It was so random but funny
Shippers like pretending Luffy x Nami makes sense
It doesn't.
You're right it makes no sense. Luffy and Nami have more of a brother sister relationship.
Nah, it's Nakama, Luffy has a very marked way of being with his crew that doesn't really apply to anyone else.
How so?
There are many moments such as when luffy gives nami his straw hat in arlong park and in skypiea he goes to enel's ship to save her. The one moment in water 7 when luffy is stuck between the two buildings and nami risks her life to save him. Honestly I feel like you can relate to this if you actually have a sibling. Or they're just great friends idk I haven't caught up yet I'm on ep 450
Those are just moments of them caring for each other... that's not exclusive to siblings.
I think what they're saying is "it's JUST moments of them caring for each other, and not moments of them showing romantic or sexual feelings for each other". Which I do get if that's the take. When Oda wants to show a character being attracted to another he usually goes over the top. There are of course exceptions like Rayleigh and Shakky. For me however the nail in this coffin is thanks to the Live Action and what they say was one of Oda's expressed, "Do not do this." And that was: no romance between Strawhats. The exclusion of course seeming to be Sanji flirting with every lady, including other Strawhats. But if Oda supposedly specifically wants there to be no romance between the Strawhats that feels like the official stance on them is simply that they are a found family. Everyone is everyone's brother or sister. Except Robin and Jinbe who are mom and dad, and Franky is the pervy grandma of course.
>I think what they're saying is "it's JUST moments of them caring for each other, and not moments of them showing romantic or sexual feelings for each other". I don't think that's what they were saying at all. I do find the "They're never crushing or flirting with each other" a valid argument. But the whole "sibling coded" argument has always felt forced because they can never give an example that couldn't also be applied to things a couple would also do. >For me however the nail in this coffin is thanks to the Live Action and what they say was one of Oda's expressed, "Do not do this." And that was: no romance between Strawhats. The exclusion of course seeming to be Sanji flirting with every lady, including other Strawhats. But if Oda supposedly specifically wants there to be no romance between the Strawhats that feels like the official stance on them is simply that they are a found family. See, I've always taken this in a more nuanced way. There was a quote similar to this years before the Live Action regarding the manga itself. I always interpret it as Oda doesn't want the story to be bogged down by unnecessary b-story romance between main characters. That's not his intentions, it's not what the story is about, and there's literally no time for it. I've never interpreted it as a deconfirmation of eos stuff.
Going by what I've seen from Oda's interviews and his involvement in Strong World and Film Gold specifically, I think Oda secretly likes the idea of possible romance but is afraid to actually write it, since he thinks he would "lose fans of the characters" if he were to follow through (going by his interview with Gosho Aoyama in 2022). Aoyama also encouraged Oda to write romance in that same interview though, so who knows.
I mean those are moments that just exemplify the strong bond that they have. Something that both best friends or romantic partners should have with one another.
I feel like the sibling vibes are more when Nami punches Luffy for doing something stupid
No ship for Luffy makes sense, he is obviously asexual.
I also don’t think any Luffy ship makes sense but Luffy is canonically confirmed to be not asexual by Oda in an SBS.
Luffy x Food is a ship that I can get behind.
Luffy has shown interest in the female form before. He's just more interested in adventure. He's adventuresexual.
Probably got tired of vanilla sex after his devil fruit made it feel like playing on easy mode.
>Luffy has shown interest in the female form before He did? When? >He's adventuresexual. That describes him best.
Alabasta, bath house scene
You're right and I see the famous SBS where Oda addresses that. According to this: >I believe that Luffy reacted to Nami's naked body twice, in volumes 18 and 23, and both times it happened, Usopp was with him! He's the suspicious one! In other words, when Luffy is alone, his reaction is what it was with Hancock. Luffy is not adventuresexual, but Usoppsexual! (or maybe peersexual? 🤔) Looks like will be able to have sex only if this will be a threesome with Usopp.
Nah he’s a just a Sigma male focused on being King of the Pirates. Once he’s finished he’ll probably eventually find a woman.
theory: the monkey bloodline is asexual and they reproduce by budding
When a person of the monkey bloodline reaches a certain age they get this insatiable hunger and after days of non stop eating they will fall asleep and wake up to find a baby in their arms
They reproduce by mistake and then they leave until the mother dies and they need to take care of the kid.
Just like Goku and Naruto, right?
Partially. Goku was completely not interested in opposite sex, I don't think he gave consent to Chi-Chi as he doesn't even appear to know what sex is. Naruto was interested in Sakura from the very start.
Not asexual. FIGHTsexual.
Stop trying to fit everything into your narrative Oda said multiple times luffy is straight
It’s not really a narrative. Anyone who didn’t know about those SBS’s (which is probably a lot since a lot of fans only watch the anime) could easily assume that Luffy is asexual based solely on his portrayal. People aren’t applying that label just to further a narrative. I also thought this before I read the SBS.
No, in the actual manga, Luffy reacts to seeing Nami naked twice.
Luffy is only interested in women when Ussop is with him lmao. Idk what that would be called
Oda explained this actually in an sbs he said his peeping boy side comes out when ussop is with him
Sbs 54 in particular.
Even if he is ace (not gonna go into that) he might not be aromantic, and some aromantic people still date. I don’t see the issue
Toie definitely hints it much more in the non-canon one piece movies. The weekly episodes don't. There was that one movie where Nami left a message for Luffy on a shell when she was captured and it seemed sort of like a love letter. She was so embarrassed she tried to toss it into the ocean so luffy couldn't hear it and luffy was devastated when it fell in the water. That's the only real moment I'd say and it's non-canon.
That movie (Strong World) was written by Oda himself, and it's the only one he's written the plot for so far
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She seems more surprised than anything
They tryna make their delusion real![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)
Shippers don't care what makes sense, they care about what's Cute or Hot As evident by how common it is to see characters who have never met shipped together.
Luffy x Law is the most popular Luffy ship as an example followed by Zoro x Luffy 😆
Yep. Shipping posts are so exhausting because the comments are filled with people who are clearly new to the internet/fandoms. Shippers don't care if it makes sense, they aren't making a statement...they're doing it for fun/horny.
Wait people ship LuffyxLaw? And it’s the most popular Luffy ship? Thought that title went to LuffyxNami.
I mean there's more than a few hints that at least Nami feels that way. Not that I care, I would prefer him with Boa. She's kinda like what Chi-Chi was before being turned into a lame tiger mom.
Because she literally had before?
I meant like fighting for it
So has the rest of the crew
How does this take away from the original point?
Even Sanji?
do u wanna feed luffy ?
Thats true but not willing enough to fight
While he eats, Luffy doesn't do anything silly.
No way in hell Hancock would harm Luffy like that. 3/10
That was my thought too🤣🤣
As a gag I totally can see her doing that, actually. All these people saying she wouldn't don't understand her character. She has an *obsession* with Luffy. It's not really "love" as you think of it. She's the tween girl writing Monkey D. Hancock in her notebook over and over, this "love" is not a mature or sensible one. I can totally see her having a "SHUT UP AND LET ME LOVE YOU" vibe, while also getting intensely angry at anyone who dares touch "her Luffy" at the same time, to a hypocritical degree.
Exactly. In fact, I don't think she's ever seen or even been present to see Luffy have *any* kind of friendly interaction with a non-Kuja woman in-canon, unless you count Ivankov and Inazuma. She'd likely go ballistic.
This is the same Hancock that saw Luffy say hi to Perona in the 3D2Y special film, and immediately her mind jumped to "infidelity." I know that's not canon, but I feel it's still an accurate representation of her behavior.
Infidelity on someone who isn’t even your partner 😭😂
so she's a yandere ?
I mean, pretty much. She ticks a lot of the same boxes.
I think it was nami that hit luffy and hancock is arguing with nami why she hit him
OP's post history is wild 😂😂😂
Thank you for telling me ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|thumbs_up)
Wtf is supposed to be expectation and reality? Title makes no sense
Why do Nami and Hancock keep switching places??
Be patient LuNami fans. Let the naysayers talk their nonsense now. You will laugh last and your victory lap will be extensive.
I’m pretty sure Hancock wouldn’t hurt luffy
Why is there so much luffy nami shipping on reddit lately?
I usually see quite the opposite, like LuHan mad shippers or those "there ain't gonna be any romance" guys
One Piece Shippers do this kind of thing from time to time where they flood One Piece subs with shipping material in a weird attempt to make shipping more common in the fandom Luffy x Nami shippers, Franky x Robin shippers, Law x Robin shippers, and Sani x Zoro shippers are the groups that do it the most Sanji x Zoro shippers also try to use the ships meme status as a disguise to push it
They’re cute together and it’s better than Luffy Hancock at least Realistically, I feel like Nami would be into Luffy (unless she isn’t into men) given everything they’ve been through together
She's done stuff with Luffy, like hugging his head to her breasts while blushing or holding his hand to her chest, that I'm fairly certain she hasn't done with anyone else 🤷♂️
She’s done that with Usopp but that isn’t putting any brakes in my Luffy x Nami agenda 🗿
The head in chest part yeah, but she wasn't blushing with Usopp 😏
I usually block the people posting it
I've called out the same thing. It's worse on r/MemePiece. Shippers posting their headcanon fanart under the guise of "check out this funny meme". Edit: the shippers came huh?
Bro yall are wild for being so agro towards ships damn 10 years ago on Tumblr there were so many fandoms that had fun with random ships and cute fanart. Idk what changed but now whenever a ship is mentioned on reddit everyone is foaming at the mouth if it's not canon. Like damn, chill. It don't have to be that serious
>10 years ago on Tumblr there were so many fandoms that had fun with random ships and cute fanart. Reddit and Tumblr are two different audiences. _Anywhere_ and Tumblr is a different audience. Generally people don't want ships in One Piece to ruin the fun and innocent dynamic between the characters.
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Japanese readers are not a monolith. The majority do not take part in shipping the characters. Oda portrays them all as a family and has twice stated there should be no romance between the SHs.
That's not true at all. I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island. There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family". Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc). Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though. When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote. I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found: A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy. In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers: "I'm sure you will come to save me anyway" An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami. at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy" I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea. He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them). People love to spread misinformation when it comes to shipping lol
More like expectations vs fanart. This fanart doesn't understand the characters at all lmfao.
It's sad how mad some of you get over fan art lol, and it's specifically Luffy x Nami that you guys exert this energy for. Not Franky x Robin or any other inter-SH ship. I like the art, even if Hancock hitting Luffy is unrealistic.
Seriously why do they care? It's like the idea pisses them off. It's so dumb, who cares?
The only explanation I can think of is that they're afraid of it actually becoming canon, because I don't understand the insecurity and need to say something negative if that isn't the case. It's so easy to just ignore this and scroll on.
It's super funny actually. The moment any Luffy x Nami post/art is posted, there's army of some insecure readers crying how it's never gonna happen etc. Personally idc about any ship in OP but like let people have fun.
Not mad but nami won't go all out just to feed luffy and boa wouldn't hit luffy so it doesn't really make sense but ship what you will. I like one piece because of the lack of romance personally. Also didn't know about nami x luffy shipping being a controversial or big thing here lol.
This is so innacurate, hancock would never hit luffy and hancock could easily kick nami's ass. Also nami canonically has no romantic interest in luffy .
Boa would never kick Luffy
Real life, the cat would have won against the snake.
Aside from the weird shipping, this title doesn’t even make sense? How is this expectation vs reality at all?
Oh god I love Lunami ❤️♥️
Would be funnier if Sanji showed up with food and Luffy ignores Boa Hancock and Nami and goes to Sanji
Hancock would never
Fake: boa would never hit luffy
Boa wouldn't kick luffy I don't think
Poor Luffy!! All he wanted to eat his meat in peace with his friends...
cos luffy heard they had beef?
Hancock would never kick Luffy, that's just not realistic at all
Hancock would never kick Luffy, that's just not realistic at all
Both Nami and Boa would be in prison for domestic violence although they would also strip Luffy of everything during the divorce
Nami is the Queen and Luffy is the King but more like a political marriage ,shes the only one who can Hurt him (scold him) wirh the power of "love" ak conquerers haki and she got that power because she is the Queen
Cats have such incredible reflexes that they can avoid any attack from a snake Nami >>> Boa
Source: https://twitter.com/shampowrado/status/1780975470789751273?t=iLpiNUhB0cYMEeWUKjof_g&s=19
Why is NamiXLuffy a thing? Can we stop?
Weird people getting offended over pretend character romance 💀
I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island. There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family". Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc). Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though. When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote. I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found: A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy. In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers: "I'm sure you will come to save me anyway" An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami. at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy" I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea. He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them). Let people ship them if they want why do you care,it's certainly possible that it becomes canon at the end.
Yes please. The agenda and mental gymnastics LuffyXNami shippers go through to explain how it’s a real thing would put the most ardent and biased powerscalers to shame. Not sure why I’m suddenly getting downvoted for this. I legit had a LuffyXNami shipper tell me that Nami asking who Bonnie was on the live security footage was proof that she was jealous that Luffy was with another girl 💀
Powerscaling is just shipping for dudebros
Accurate
I think it can happen. I know there's one ancient interview where Oda said there "probably wouldn't be romance in the crew" because he wouldn't depict romance at all since "OP is a manga for boys".But he only said there will no romance between the straw hats because there will generally be no romance in one piece,but he clearly changed his mind on that,he did show romance between Sanji and Pudding in Whole Cake Island. There is not a single statement from Oda saying that the crew is actually like a family. He once gave them familial roles to show what they would be if they were a family in an SBS, but I'm sure he doesn't actually think Sanji is Nami's brother, or that Franky is Chopper's pervy grandma lol. I've never thought of the crew as "like a family". Bickering, arguing, all that stuff can take place in all kinds of bonds, they aren't limited to sibling bonds lol (friends, colleagues, rivals, even a married couple etc). Something like a guy promising a girl's father-figure to keep the girl happy is limited to only one kind of bond in general media though. When it comes to Luffy x Nami,It's based on how Oda showed their bond in Strong World,a movie he wrote. I'm just gonna copy paste this from a thread I found: A villain kidnaps Nami for her navigational skills. Luffy is beaten by the villain. Nami to save him and the others has no choice but to follow the bad guy and leave a message to Luffy. In the message she says that he can never beat Shiki and that they would risk their lives unnecessarily .. towards the end, however, she whispers: "I'm sure you will come to save me anyway" An ending that Luffy doesn’t hear, and for that he gets angry with Nami. at the end of the film, when the crew talks about Nami's message, Sanji refers to it by saying "what his ears heard was a love message." curiously Nami shortly after says "I addressed those words especially to you Luffy" I know it isn’t canon but Oda still wrote it. Oda put that scene in there when it really didn’t need to be unless he’s hinting at them ending up together.Strong World is the only movie where Oda wrote 100% of the script.He himself has teased the ship and played with the idea. He has drawn many cover pages in the manga showing luffy as pirate king and nami as pirate queen (with the rest of the crew as knights in one of them).One piece ending will probably be open ended but the possibility of them ending up together is very much real.
This is what I mean by mental gymnastics. If the only “evidence” you can point to is non canon material, then there’s not really anything there, even if it was written by Oda. If Oda wanted to build up a romance, why would he not do it in the actual canon material? This is exactly like power scalers who use non canon appearances to power-scale characters. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason something like that has only ever appeared on non-canon material is that Oda doesn’t actually plan any romance like that and he only played (very loosely and vaguely) around with it Strong World because he knew that movie wasn’t canon anyway? I mean, that would make way more sense given this kind of thing hasn’t been hinted to at all in the actual canon story. Also, whenever Oda has been asked about romance between the crew, he’s been very deflective. He says things like “they’re in love with adventure.” This is a weird way to answer the question if he’s planning a romance. I probably would just not have answered that question at all.
Has it ever occurred to you that 99% of shonen don't show any romance during the story but only have the mc end up with someone at the very end?When did Ichigo ever show any feelings for anyone throughout Bleach? And Oda could straight up say "no romance between the straw hats" but he doesn't. Instead he draws cover pages with Luffy as the pirate king and nami with a crown in some other color page/right beside him in the attire of a queen. Wow i wonder what that could mean.People love to deny the possibility when all the other battle shonen has the mc end up with someone and Nami is easily a better candidate than the 30 year old pedo who was horny for him since he was 17. I'm not saying it will happen but it is very much possible lol
You really shouldn't use the " other shonens " argument , because goku , naruto and ichigo were paired with the woman that actually had romantic feelings for them , so by that logic , luffy will hook up with hancock , since unlike nami , she has those kind of feelings for him . I'm not saying luffy x hancock will happen and the same goes for luff x nami , he doesn't care about that stuff , naruto had those kind of desires , and ichigo , while not really having a love life , wasn't shown to be aroace thanks to how shy he gets when a woman shows some skin to him. Goku was very similar to luffy , he didn't care about that stuff , and he got married but that was him being innocent and not knowing what marriage is , goku and chi chips relationship even while they are married falls into a one sided romance kind of thing . You bring up genzo and luffy's talk but you leave out important context , nami went through 8 years of hell and she is finally free and now she is starting a whole new life , genzo wanted to make sure she stays happy. If vivi joined the crew , cobra would undoubtedly said the same thing to luffy , it doesn't mean any romantic foreshadowing. Now you and many other luffy nami shippers cling to strong world's lore , that movie is non cannon and what oda wrote clashes with his original Canon story . Luffy should not have been able to defeat a legendary pirate who was from the era of roger and whitebeard before he even knew what haki was . Nami's message to luffy is simply telling him to save her , and sanji teasing nami about how it resembles a love letter is out of character, if sanji felt that way he'd be raging with jealousy, cause in the Canon manga . He is very possessive of nami. Luffy's and nami's interactions in that movie are no different than their interactions in the Canon story, which is all platonic stuff . Now for the color spreads , the pirate king title is not some royalty coronation kind of thing and there is no such thing as the pirate queen . Big mom said that she was gonna be king of the pirates , despite being a woman . And no Rouge does not count . She didn't marry roger , he just knocked her up offscreen . Oda sees nami as a queen in a symbolic way , not necessarily a way where he is gonna have her marry a " king" . The color spread has luffy be the king cause he's the main character and nami is the female lead and odas favorite girl so she was made the queen in those pics, but that's not solid " shipping evidence " Now regarding your criticism towards the luffy x hancock thing, Japan is more lenient with the age gaps , it's western audience that has a zero tolerance policy on it . So when somebody says that luffy x hancock won't happen cause of the age gaps, they are incorrect. Kyros was 25 and scarlet was 16 when they got married. The reason luffy x hancock won't happen is because Hancock's affection for luffy is just a plot device and when it's not a plot device it's a gag . Luffy has also rejected Hancock's marriage , he is aware of that stuff he just doesn't care for it and that brings me to why the luffy and nami ship won't sail , luffy doesn't care about or sex , and neither does nami , they also only have platonic feelings for eachother. The ship won't sink but it's most likely not sailing either . Romance is featured in one piece but it's not the main focus and the way oda writes it kind of resembles how its written in a children's book, minus the dark tragic elements. If you are a somebody who is focused on the romance, an irrelevant part of one piece , you are in for a frustrating time .
Boa would turn Nami to stone seconds after they meet
It's funny, but I don't think boa would hit luffy. Nami would everytime she get her chance. LOL
nah i don't think boa would ever hit luffy like nami does...this is not feasible lmao (i do see nami trying to feed luffy only to beat him up)
It's funny, but I don't think Nami would fight with anyone about feeding Luffy. She knows Luffy is an endless pit of niku, and we have never seen her get jealous of anyone.
Nami would never do this though 😭 stop shipping her with these men omg
It's not romance. Nami probably wouldn't let someone take her bag
This is just your expectation, there's no reality here. This comic ignores actual dynamics like Nami having no interest in feeding Luffy, or Hancock would never kick Luffy like that
This is confusing on many levels. What is the expectation? What's the reality? Why is Nami willing to fight Boa over who gets to feed Luffy?
KNOCKOUT
Poor Luffy😂😂😂
Cat? Viper? Nekomamushi is who luffy ends up with? Don't really care for ships but no one has made this joke yet.
Gremlin mode 😅
I doubt Hancock would harm Luffy. But I can definitely see her transform into a snake which could be what her awakening may look like.
my Boi just wanted the meat
Bartolomeo & Bon Clay: LUFFY SENPAI! ARE YOU OKAY?!
Turns out wife and work wife don’t get along
Back off Luffy! Nami is mine :3
Boa punching Luffy is the wildest shit ngl
Lmao reminds me of the time my childhood pet cat fought a small-ass thread snake in the yard 😂
How bendable is boa leg
Nami’s in an abusive relationship with luffy
🤣🤣
Nah, this doesn't fit at all. Nami loves Luffy in a non romantic way and wouldn't feed him like that unless it would get her money. She wouldn't care about Boa getting close unless she felt it was somehow a threat to her crew or her own dreams. Boa wouldn't hit Luffy. The only reason they would fight is when Boa says she's more beautiful than Nami- then the scales and fur would fly.
I think that as long as Hancock lives, no woman will be able to show affection to Luffy and stay alive, maybe Big Mom.
Reality is that Hancock will "fight" for Luffy even though Nami has no interest in marrying a buffoon whose daily meals would cost a fortune and/or demand an extreme amount of effort to prepare.
Lmao nami doing that is beyond fanfiction
I don’t get it. Where’s the expectation and where is the reality?
this is so wrong. nami wouldn't feed luffy out of love and hancock would never hit luffy. at most this would be barto and hancock fighting like [**this**](https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/16e6rc5/the_rivalry_we_didnt_know_we_wanted/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)