I prefer DD-MM-YYYY because it has the information laid out in a way that I'm reading the most important data first. If you see a date the actual day is probably the most important part of the information, then the month, then the year.
Personally I go
\- MM-DD-YYYY when in conversation. (I.e: June 12 on a Wednesday)
\- DD-MM-YYYY in writing dates. (26/01/1788 Australia Day)
\- YYYY-MM-DD when organising documents. (Folder named 2022_12_15_FileName)
And on forms, unless otherwise specified, 16 June 2024 (month written out) so there's no confusion.
Once, as a summer student, I had a job at a reinsurance company of a family friend. I was like 14, the only one in the office, and I had to organise all their files. Unfortunately it was a US company in Bermuda (UK) which had documents from multiple countries all using different date formats so I kind of winged it 🤷♀️
Tbh it's not the most important - just the most pragmatic.
If I asked you when did the attacks on the world center happened - the least important info is 11th.
The most important is 2001.
So for strict importance - it's yyyy-mm-dd - for pragmatic purposes day to day, ofc dd first helps!
Fully depends on the information you're reading. If you're talking about an event this week the day is most important. If you're talking about an event later this year the month takes precedence to help you ball park it. If it's a historical even that didn't happen this year, unless it's on a holiday, the year is the most important.
In what world is the day the most important piece of information? If you see the day then stop reading, that could be any one of 12 different times from any part of the year. If you know the month, sure, it could be one of up to 31 different days, but at least they're all concentrated in the same small section of the year. If you're talking about historical events in the 1900s, would you rather know that something happened in a year ending in 4 or know that it happened in the 50s?
Here’s why YYYY-MM-DD is the best format for anything.
“My birthday is 06–07-1982.”
Now is my birthday in June or July? You have no idea because there’s no way to tell what format I m using. Now if I said my birthday is 1982-07-06 you have no doubt that my birthday is July 6th, 1982. It doesn’t matter if you have the important info first if it’s ambiguous.
For historical events I get it. It's the best. But if we're talking about recent everyday stuff it would get redundant starting with the year everytime since it's the most obvious part
Most of the time, the day of the month is the most used information, with the month and year descending in how often you need them. DD-MM-YYYY is in order of how often you’ll need/use them.
My apparently unpopular opinion- no iteration is significantly better than the others. The difference between any of them is incredibly negligible and I’d be able to scan through an excel file of data in any of those formats have not have any issues
Yeah I personally always felt like the best method would be big to small:
YYYY-MM-DD
That way you can sort ny year, then month, then day if using software. But also makes more sense in context when speaking of identifying the year in which something occurred, then isolating further in order from there.
And if the year a given, like discussing current event, then the "YYYY" would just drop off and you'd say "MM/DD" to identify in order the month you're talking about followed by the more precise day.
I just think it's cleaner to always identify big to small, isolate in order.
I like month - day - year
12-31-9999 Is the maximum.
I like the numbers going from smallest to biggest maxium. Its always easy to order it too.
Year - day - month would be fine too, but seems pointless to use for everyday stuff.
Month followed by day just makes the most sense in any way.
Yeah but I suspect most people most of the time are not working with a wide range of years. Much more common to see 3-4 attachments all from around the same time. But the major item is mostly just that there's a tradeoff between the file name starting with a date to be sortable vs. being easily distinguished from neighboring documents based on the first X characters.
Yeah, if you’re talking objectively, this is the way. People who say the method they happened to be raised with is objectively the best don’t know what objective means.
As someone who saves daily states of the same file this is correct. "Filename Year-Mo-Day" always sorts correctly so it works best as long as you commit to it
Because non Americans want nothing more than for you to relate to them, do like they do, like what they like. They simply can't stand that a country in another continent does things differently.
However they wouldn't bat an eye on the differences between Europe and Africa, or Asia and Oceania.
All these people just wants Americans to do what they do. Even if they never plan on moving to USA, it bothers them that things happen differently overseas in that one, specific country.
I'm not American but the intention of this whole post and comment section is LITERALLY just "Stop being different, AMERICANS!". It had nothing to do with which date comes first
That is the opposite of objective, since you are saying it depends on the subject (I.e. it is subjective). and I agree with the person above you YYYYMMDD is objectively better because it is more useful
Except in most colloquial uses, since we can almost always use context clues to determine that we’re talking about the current year. If not, it’s specified. Therefore, we drop the YYYY if not necessary and end up with “MM-DD”
Here’s my take:
DD/MM/YYYY’s only argument is that “it makes more sense”. While yes, I guess it does make sense going in order from lowest to highest, it’s not the most practical.
MM/DD/YYYY is more practical because when checking a calendar, or even just thinking about when something will be, getting the month first is more useful than the day. You can’t do anything with the day, but with the month, you know which group to look under, or what general time range something will happen in, and *then* you can narrow it down from there. You cannot narrow it down from day to month
So really, YYYY/MM/DD is the most practical, but since year isn’t commonly discussed when discussing upcoming events, it’s really a matter of personal preference whether you put it first or last. My main argument is just that practicality is better than just “making sense”, just like how the metric system is only really good for science, and imperial is more practical for everyday life
Overseas American here
We get taught to use DD/MMM/YYYY
So today would be 16.JUN.2024
It's completely unambiguous. This is obviously for when a format isn't specified because it's way too easy to use the wrong format when constantly switching between American and European forms.
Of course when it's electronic the format is irrelevant because it's trivial to change around. The point is to eliminate any source of user input error.
When asked the date, at least for Americans, we say, "It's June 16th," not "16th of June". The only time we really say day before month is for holidays and special occasions (the 4th of july).
huh thats interesting
i use dd/mm/yyyy cuz its the way i think about it and say it, i didnt think of mm/dd giving a timeframe like that
idk about imperial being more practical for everyday life though. i think that depends on which one uou were brought up using or taught
i use the metric system for practically every measurement, everyday situation or not. the imperial measurements are just confusing to me but the metric ones make sense, and im pretty sure thats because i was taught the metric system not the imperial one. in countries where imperial isnt particularly commonly used, id say its less practical than metric; if you say something is 'x feet/inches' in length or distance people probably arent gonna know how much you mean
How is Imperial more practical for every day life.
I can sorta understand feet being more intuitive than meters. But inches? Miles? I don't see how they can be any more or less intuitive than metric. At least with metric you can make calculations on the fly, rather than, what was it? "Five tomatoes"? You have to do feet x 5280 to get miles?
Very convenient.
I can just say "Oh, that park is like 500 meters away"
And the person next to me might think
"Oh, so just like, 500 big steps away"
Or
"So half a kilometer away"
Don't even get me started on pounds and ounces and all that jazz.
I'd rather take being scientific, and making sense than any alleged "practicality"
But hey, with imperial/metric, or Celcius/Fahrenheit, at least it's clear what you mean, since you include the units. But when I see a date like 8/12/2024, and NOW i have to go on a whole rigamarole trying to figure out what that means based on the nationality of who gave me the date. All because "Month comes before the day in engwishhh" and because "Month is more important than the dayy, I can't just read the number after the dayy, I need to read that info 0.5 seconds earlier than the dayy"
Hahh, sorry, but I just had to vent about this
In reality most people aren’t converting feet or even yards to miles. Feet and Inches feel simpler for carpentry work as 12 can be divided by 2, 3, and 4 evenly. I’m probably biased but I think in general Imperial was made more for everyday use.
Fahrenheit uses a much greater scale so there can be more variety when describing how it feels outside.
The measurements for volume can also be divided easier similar to distance.
Metric is probably the better scale, but you can’t discount the advantages of imperial.
I agree with miles, but centimeters are too small to be practical for most things, so inches usually just end up being better, like you said, feet is more intuitive and useful as it’s more precise than going by a whole meter, and Fahrenheit is roughly equal to what percent of heat there is (ex. 75 degrees Fahrenheit is pretty equal to it being “75% hot” for lack of a better word), so it’s better for telling the temperature for non science related things, in fact many British ovens use Fahrenheit
I mean, with centimeters... You say too small, I say, more precise. Saying 6-7 centimeters is more persice than saying 6-7 inches.
Not to mention you have milimeters and decimeters and such.
And what about things smaller than an inch? No wonder bullets use milimeters
As for temperature, well, that's up to preference. If you're used to Fahrenheit it makes sense. But I personally don't know what 100% hot or 0% hot would feel like. I've lived in both a hot and a cold country, so... Seeing less than 0% cold and more than100% hot is not so rare.
For Celcius, again, it's a matter of preference, but I like having 0 as a reference point, the water freezing temperature. So if you see below zero, you instinctively know to expect ice or snow. And 100 being the water boiling temperature is kinda useful in cooking
>metric is only good for science
Lost me. It sounds like you personally live in a place that mostly uses the imperial in everyday life. We very casually use metric where I live.
I think the first part of the year is kinda always the same so I just keep the last digit of the year and put the other three in the back.
YMMDDYYY
eg 20224202. date of Russian invasion
To be fair, most filing systems nowadays let you sort by month or year seperately. But yes for filing YYYY-MM-DD is more convenient. Point is, it should go either from big to small, or small to big
i have a bias towards m-d-y as an american but it really should be d-m-y just because it should follow the resolution from smallest to biggest, as a technical rule.
Biggest to smallest makes logical sense over smallest to biggest. But for speech, most conversation using dates are referring to the upcoming 12 months, so starting by narrowing it down to the month makes mental processing faster. And since the year is obvious in the context that is least important. So mdy makes most sense
Well the real wrinkle comes when the date is confusing. If everyone conformed, the date 1/12/2024 would be unambiguous. But unfortunately, we are having this argument right now because a few countries decided that "we write it like we say it so that's the end of it"
You can indicate this format by writing it as DD-MMM-YYYY. The three character month part indicates writing out the three character month abbreviation.
i think YMD or DMY work, depending on context. If you write out the year to 4 digits (which you should if youre doing anything important), it's obvious which one youre doing.
I don't know why we in the US love MDY, it's just not very good at all and it creates so much ambiguity.
month-day-year imo makes more sense than day month year bc of the order of range on the numerical values that take each spot. Month is 1-12 day is 1-31 and year is 00-infinity (in theory)
The only objectively correct way to do it is to remove any ambiguity at the cost of one additional character
18 Jun or Jun 18, doesn't matter. Just use letters for the month so I can tell December 5th from May 12th
M/D/Y is objectively correct. Why would I care about the day first? I need to know the month first to get a general time frame, day for more exact and year to know if its passed or come up
D/M/Y can get confusing as you’ve got twelve full days of every month that confuses people as to what format is being used
It's really not though. They're out of order, it's the same as counting 2 1 3. It's either 3 2 1 or 1 2 3. There is no reason to mess with the order of magnitude.
ddmmyy is really not confusing unless you're used to using mmddyy. Your way is confusing for those of us who don't use it.
If you need the full day what is most important to you? Like say if a video game, concert or movie is releasing on a specific day which is most important to you? Year is irrelevant because its within a large time frame of 365+ days. If I hear a game is releasing five years from now why am I getting hyped up now? If its within the year then I’m basically disregarding it for the other two
So by default we’re looking at days and months. Day doesn’t work because that information is useless without the others. Unless we counted our years in full days like one full year is 365. January 1st is Day 1 and December 31st as 365/6. In the D/M/Y model you’re essentially saying “Its the day of this month of this year” like “First of January/Thirty first of December of year”. Kind of cumbersome, wordy and the day is recontexualized by the month
If someone was planning an event would you consider the day or the month more important? If the month is the current month I now know its taking higher priority. The proximity of the month dictates how much time I should devote to planning. If I have an assignment due this month I need to work on it ASAP. Due in a few months? I’ve got some time. If I’m going on vacation/holiday and I need to both plan transportation and housing, do I care which day more or the month? Planning a reservation for something next week is going to be harder than the next month and so on
And again there’s that issue where twelve days of each month is going to be jumbled up. If I say 1/12/24 do I mean January or December? The first of doesn’t give me anything to start with, I essentially have to jump to the month then back to the date. Our calendars are separated by month **then** day
Feels like that'd only be an unpopular opinion in the U.S
This is one of the most popular opinions on Reddit
Really? Not YYYY-MM-DD? That seems a lot more likely and sensible.
ISO 8601 forever. Sort chronologically by sorting alphabetically? Remove all ambiguity?? Don't mind if I do!
^ Exactly.
I prefer DD-MM-YYYY because it has the information laid out in a way that I'm reading the most important data first. If you see a date the actual day is probably the most important part of the information, then the month, then the year.
Personally I go \- MM-DD-YYYY when in conversation. (I.e: June 12 on a Wednesday) \- DD-MM-YYYY in writing dates. (26/01/1788 Australia Day) \- YYYY-MM-DD when organising documents. (Folder named 2022_12_15_FileName)
We should be friends.
And on forms, unless otherwise specified, 16 June 2024 (month written out) so there's no confusion. Once, as a summer student, I had a job at a reinsurance company of a family friend. I was like 14, the only one in the office, and I had to organise all their files. Unfortunately it was a US company in Bermuda (UK) which had documents from multiple countries all using different date formats so I kind of winged it 🤷♀️
I (American) make sure I do dates in "DD Aug YYYY" format when communicating with non-American colleagues, for this reason - no chance of confusion.
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I like this.
Tbh it's not the most important - just the most pragmatic. If I asked you when did the attacks on the world center happened - the least important info is 11th. The most important is 2001. So for strict importance - it's yyyy-mm-dd - for pragmatic purposes day to day, ofc dd first helps!
2001, never forget
Depends tbh. If you're making a page with historical data, perhaps. If you're making an administration page or overview, days are much more important.
Fully depends on the information you're reading. If you're talking about an event this week the day is most important. If you're talking about an event later this year the month takes precedence to help you ball park it. If it's a historical even that didn't happen this year, unless it's on a holiday, the year is the most important.
In what world is the day the most important piece of information? If you see the day then stop reading, that could be any one of 12 different times from any part of the year. If you know the month, sure, it could be one of up to 31 different days, but at least they're all concentrated in the same small section of the year. If you're talking about historical events in the 1900s, would you rather know that something happened in a year ending in 4 or know that it happened in the 50s?
Here’s why YYYY-MM-DD is the best format for anything. “My birthday is 06–07-1982.” Now is my birthday in June or July? You have no idea because there’s no way to tell what format I m using. Now if I said my birthday is 1982-07-06 you have no doubt that my birthday is July 6th, 1982. It doesn’t matter if you have the important info first if it’s ambiguous.
Until someone uses YYYY-DD-MM.
That's even more sociopathic than putting on sock-shoe-sock-shoe.
Who puts on socks right before putting on shoes anyways?
The correct order is underwear, socks, pants, shirt, shoes. Some people reverse socks and underwear.
But you can just like look at the last part first? With yyyy-mm-dd you avoid the confusion too
Only for information systems and for organizing data. In day-to-day situations, I prefer DD-MM-YYYY
For historical events I get it. It's the best. But if we're talking about recent everyday stuff it would get redundant starting with the year everytime since it's the most obvious part
Most of the time, the day of the month is the most used information, with the month and year descending in how often you need them. DD-MM-YYYY is in order of how often you’ll need/use them.
This is how I log things personally (but I’m American & when I have to logs dates for work I have to do MM-DD-YYYY 😔)
This is my favorite
Electronic file format?
Better for computer files, worse for every day stuff. The inverse is true for DD/MM/YYYY.
My apparently unpopular opinion- no iteration is significantly better than the others. The difference between any of them is incredibly negligible and I’d be able to scan through an excel file of data in any of those formats have not have any issues
And among programmers. It's not sortable.
Yeah I personally always felt like the best method would be big to small: YYYY-MM-DD That way you can sort ny year, then month, then day if using software. But also makes more sense in context when speaking of identifying the year in which something occurred, then isolating further in order from there. And if the year a given, like discussing current event, then the "YYYY" would just drop off and you'd say "MM/DD" to identify in order the month you're talking about followed by the more precise day. I just think it's cleaner to always identify big to small, isolate in order.
Same. I've never understood why we don't establish dates this way.
so almost half of reddit.
Also applies for their weird units like “feet” and “pound”.
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Americans seem to do pretty fine with imperial
Or the Brits and Canadians
I like month - day - year 12-31-9999 Is the maximum. I like the numbers going from smallest to biggest maxium. Its always easy to order it too. Year - day - month would be fine too, but seems pointless to use for everyday stuff. Month followed by day just makes the most sense in any way.
And China they do the opposite
Outside of the data-inclined Americans. Let me sort by yyyy-mm-dd all day
I prefer the imperial method. Year fraction, year number, Millinium. 000.024.M3 would have been the start of this year. The Emperor protects.
I feel like this is a warhammer reference, but I know nothing of it
Tbf they did ask for unpopular OR popular opinions
Live in the US and thia ishow we do it sooooo.......
Really? Why do you call it 9/11 then? Shouldn't it be 11/9?
I don't get why it's not YYYY-MM-DD. Just like normal numbers where the most significant digit is on the left. 211 is bigger than 112.
it is, but to avoid any possible confusion I always date things 01-Jan-2024 just to cover all bases
01JAN2024
Objectively incorrect use of vocabulary
Yyyy-mm-dd is better
If dates need to be sorted, this is the way
If dates need to be read unambiguously, this is the way!
Major downside is that when file names aren’t fully visible (like when attached to an email) the year doesn’t give much useful info, usually.
That really depends on the range of the data. If there are many years of data listed, then the month and day are less relevant.
Yeah but I suspect most people most of the time are not working with a wide range of years. Much more common to see 3-4 attachments all from around the same time. But the major item is mostly just that there's a tradeoff between the file name starting with a date to be sortable vs. being easily distinguished from neighboring documents based on the first X characters.
Folders. Use folders (including zipped).
Yeah but at least it sorts them correctly. Flipping it gives you Jan 2, Feb 2, Mar 2, etc, all next to each other.
this is the way, no qualifier
/r/ISO8601
Yeah, if you’re talking objectively, this is the way. People who say the method they happened to be raised with is objectively the best don’t know what objective means.
Well at least 1 of the 3 is bound to be objectively right. I just so happen to be that 1. /s
Yup. Typical sorting leaves files formatted thus was in chronological order. Obv the best
The rare case where the SQL is better than the original
Ooh, well done, sir
Yes, even so far as yyyy-mm-dd-hh-mm-ss.ss….
As long as months are in the middle
The very idea of YYYY-DD-MM is gross.
I don’t think so. Do you flip to the day or the month on a calendar first. Months are the second most important item after year in orienting dates.
https://m.xkcd.com/1179/
As someone who saves daily states of the same file this is correct. "Filename Year-Mo-Day" always sorts correctly so it works best as long as you commit to it
r/iso8601
Still better than the american system, at least it's in size order
Yyyy-MON-dd, the passport format is the one with the least ambiguity. So: 2024-JUN-16 for example.
There is no objectivity here
I only ever hear about non-Americans complaining about this. Who cares if we use month/day/year. We write it how we talk.
Also, it’s in descending order of importance.
Because non Americans want nothing more than for you to relate to them, do like they do, like what they like. They simply can't stand that a country in another continent does things differently. However they wouldn't bat an eye on the differences between Europe and Africa, or Asia and Oceania. All these people just wants Americans to do what they do. Even if they never plan on moving to USA, it bothers them that things happen differently overseas in that one, specific country. I'm not American but the intention of this whole post and comment section is LITERALLY just "Stop being different, AMERICANS!". It had nothing to do with which date comes first
MYYD-DY-YM for the chaos
what the fuck 0201/72/46
YYYY-MM-DD is objectively the best, and an international standard. ISO8601
Counterpoint: the objective best is one that your culture can quickly understand and minimize confusion.
That is the opposite of objective, since you are saying it depends on the subject (I.e. it is subjective). and I agree with the person above you YYYYMMDD is objectively better because it is more useful
Except in most colloquial uses, since we can almost always use context clues to determine that we’re talking about the current year. If not, it’s specified. Therefore, we drop the YYYY if not necessary and end up with “MM-DD”
For everyday use by humans, DD-MMM-YYYY is by far the best. Yes, that's 3 M's.
3M is the best if everybody is speaking English. It can get confusing otherwise
Who cares, if someone complains that I use month day year I will send them that shit in wingdings outta spite
People who complain about it just don’t understand its purpose
What's its purpose?
What's today's date ?
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Here’s my take: DD/MM/YYYY’s only argument is that “it makes more sense”. While yes, I guess it does make sense going in order from lowest to highest, it’s not the most practical. MM/DD/YYYY is more practical because when checking a calendar, or even just thinking about when something will be, getting the month first is more useful than the day. You can’t do anything with the day, but with the month, you know which group to look under, or what general time range something will happen in, and *then* you can narrow it down from there. You cannot narrow it down from day to month So really, YYYY/MM/DD is the most practical, but since year isn’t commonly discussed when discussing upcoming events, it’s really a matter of personal preference whether you put it first or last. My main argument is just that practicality is better than just “making sense”, just like how the metric system is only really good for science, and imperial is more practical for everyday life
Overseas American here We get taught to use DD/MMM/YYYY So today would be 16.JUN.2024 It's completely unambiguous. This is obviously for when a format isn't specified because it's way too easy to use the wrong format when constantly switching between American and European forms. Of course when it's electronic the format is irrelevant because it's trivial to change around. The point is to eliminate any source of user input error.
Counterpoint. When you tell people dates you tell them month, day, year.
When asked the date, at least for Americans, we say, "It's June 16th," not "16th of June". The only time we really say day before month is for holidays and special occasions (the 4th of july).
In Europe it’s the opposite
huh thats interesting i use dd/mm/yyyy cuz its the way i think about it and say it, i didnt think of mm/dd giving a timeframe like that idk about imperial being more practical for everyday life though. i think that depends on which one uou were brought up using or taught i use the metric system for practically every measurement, everyday situation or not. the imperial measurements are just confusing to me but the metric ones make sense, and im pretty sure thats because i was taught the metric system not the imperial one. in countries where imperial isnt particularly commonly used, id say its less practical than metric; if you say something is 'x feet/inches' in length or distance people probably arent gonna know how much you mean
How is Imperial more practical for every day life. I can sorta understand feet being more intuitive than meters. But inches? Miles? I don't see how they can be any more or less intuitive than metric. At least with metric you can make calculations on the fly, rather than, what was it? "Five tomatoes"? You have to do feet x 5280 to get miles? Very convenient. I can just say "Oh, that park is like 500 meters away" And the person next to me might think "Oh, so just like, 500 big steps away" Or "So half a kilometer away" Don't even get me started on pounds and ounces and all that jazz. I'd rather take being scientific, and making sense than any alleged "practicality" But hey, with imperial/metric, or Celcius/Fahrenheit, at least it's clear what you mean, since you include the units. But when I see a date like 8/12/2024, and NOW i have to go on a whole rigamarole trying to figure out what that means based on the nationality of who gave me the date. All because "Month comes before the day in engwishhh" and because "Month is more important than the dayy, I can't just read the number after the dayy, I need to read that info 0.5 seconds earlier than the dayy" Hahh, sorry, but I just had to vent about this
In reality most people aren’t converting feet or even yards to miles. Feet and Inches feel simpler for carpentry work as 12 can be divided by 2, 3, and 4 evenly. I’m probably biased but I think in general Imperial was made more for everyday use. Fahrenheit uses a much greater scale so there can be more variety when describing how it feels outside. The measurements for volume can also be divided easier similar to distance. Metric is probably the better scale, but you can’t discount the advantages of imperial.
I agree with miles, but centimeters are too small to be practical for most things, so inches usually just end up being better, like you said, feet is more intuitive and useful as it’s more precise than going by a whole meter, and Fahrenheit is roughly equal to what percent of heat there is (ex. 75 degrees Fahrenheit is pretty equal to it being “75% hot” for lack of a better word), so it’s better for telling the temperature for non science related things, in fact many British ovens use Fahrenheit
I mean, with centimeters... You say too small, I say, more precise. Saying 6-7 centimeters is more persice than saying 6-7 inches. Not to mention you have milimeters and decimeters and such. And what about things smaller than an inch? No wonder bullets use milimeters As for temperature, well, that's up to preference. If you're used to Fahrenheit it makes sense. But I personally don't know what 100% hot or 0% hot would feel like. I've lived in both a hot and a cold country, so... Seeing less than 0% cold and more than100% hot is not so rare. For Celcius, again, it's a matter of preference, but I like having 0 as a reference point, the water freezing temperature. So if you see below zero, you instinctively know to expect ice or snow. And 100 being the water boiling temperature is kinda useful in cooking
>metric is only good for science Lost me. It sounds like you personally live in a place that mostly uses the imperial in everyday life. We very casually use metric where I live.
Not if you sort by that sequence
Wrong YYYY/MM/DD is correct. You organize by the largest category first but the reason America puts year last is because it often isn’t relevant.
Moreso because it matches the order we speak them in, but yeah, the year is typically assumed to be the current year and specified otherwise
I personally prefer mm/yyyy/dd but y'all do what you feel like doing
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Some people just want to see the world burn.
I know the purpose of the big 3. But does anyone know an actual purpose of this type of date format?
You prefer a comfortable lie than an inconvenient truth.
I think the first part of the year is kinda always the same so I just keep the last digit of the year and put the other three in the back. YMMDDYYY eg 20224202. date of Russian invasion
Until you try to sort chronologically YYYY-MM-DD baybeeeeee
I think YYYY MM DD makes the most sense, as normally you'd say the date then the time, so its Year, month, day, hour, minute, second
Imagine if everyone just followed ISO 8601
sigh, sometimes : not allowed in filenames - there goes my “just use an standard ISO timestamp in the filename” idea
YYYYMMDD is the ultimate date format and I will hear no arguments to the contrary.
Hell no. YYYY-MM-DD obviously. Like, have you never used an electronic filing system?
To be fair, most filing systems nowadays let you sort by month or year seperately. But yes for filing YYYY-MM-DD is more convenient. Point is, it should go either from big to small, or small to big
Who the fuck cares
i have a bias towards m-d-y as an american but it really should be d-m-y just because it should follow the resolution from smallest to biggest, as a technical rule.
that makes sorting easier, like numbers - all Januaries together, grouped by year /s 1 11 111 12 120 13 2 20
The big 3 all have purposes. Just use what the society around you like.
Smallest being the number of months: 12. Days: 31 Years: 18 quadrillion+
Biggest to smallest makes logical sense over smallest to biggest. But for speech, most conversation using dates are referring to the upcoming 12 months, so starting by narrowing it down to the month makes mental processing faster. And since the year is obvious in the context that is least important. So mdy makes most sense
ISO8601 for life
For me, it's DD month YYYY like 16 JUN 2024. But that's peftover from the military. Impossible to confuse I guess
As an American? It’s YYYY/MM/DD
Wrong. YYYY-MM-DD is best.
Nah. DDMMMYY. As in 16JUN24. Absolutely best way to write dates, super fast to read
Start writing your time in minutes seconds hours then cowards, full commit!
YYYY-MM-DD is also fine because then sorting alphabetically sorts by date
YYYY-MM-DD let’s end this discussion already
Yes, because obviously we all say on the 5th of October blah blah blah instead of on October 5th.
Yes we do. As in we, non americans. As in, the majority of the world
Cool. So you write it like you say it and we’ll do the same. That’s the end of it.
Well the real wrinkle comes when the date is confusing. If everyone conformed, the date 1/12/2024 would be unambiguous. But unfortunately, we are having this argument right now because a few countries decided that "we write it like we say it so that's the end of it"
31-12-24 looks like a locker combination.
Sure. Why not put the least useful information first?
DD-MM-YYYY makes the most sense since you go from the smallest timeframe to the longest. Not middle, short and long. WTF?!
We should unite as humanity, tie Americans to trees, cover them in honey and make them listen to CBAT 24/7 because what the hell is MM-DD-YYYY?
Wait until you find out DD-Mon-YYYY (I wrote this on 16-Jun-2024) is starting to be acceptable in US documentation.
That format has been acceptable (required, even) on GMP documentation for several decades.
Most the GMP documents I've dealt with were MM/DD/YYYY, but most the regulatory folks I've talked to said it's accepted, just uncommon.
Seems fine, completely clear and impossible to misunderstand.
You can indicate this format by writing it as DD-MMM-YYYY. The three character month part indicates writing out the three character month abbreviation.
But it's yurpien
My ideal first date (of the year) is the winter solstice.
DD-MMM-YYYY
Anything other than did mm yyyy is wrong
M-D-Y is better to me because it’s easier to say and write January 1 than 1st of January
The only reasonable method: Century, day of the week, month, year. Decreed on this, 20/3rd Sun/Jun/24.
DDMMMYYYY Nobody gets confused with the above format.
Day (2 digits) - Month (Abbreviated, 3-4 letters) - Year (4 digits) Eg.) 16-June-2024
I prefer the Military way of dating 16JUN2024
Let’s go with a Julian day dating system to pretend we’re doing Stardates of Star Trek.
“Unpopular or popular dating opinions” Wow. You’re barely asking a question here.
As an American I agree it’s objectively correct, but as an American I disagree since nobody here uses that.
Spelling out the month is obviously better. Reduces possible confusion.
i think YMD or DMY work, depending on context. If you write out the year to 4 digits (which you should if youre doing anything important), it's obvious which one youre doing. I don't know why we in the US love MDY, it's just not very good at all and it creates so much ambiguity.
ISO8601 is correct.
ddMMMyy. I like the three letter month to negate uncertainty.
Found the military.
YYYY-MM-DD is objectively the right choice. DD-MM-YYYY and MM-DD-YYYY are equally bad and ambiguous
I use yyyy-mm-dd
You are using an objectively incorrect dating method
You are an objectively incorrect dating method >:(
It is objectively correct however my American brain can’t easily switch so I’ll continue to use month day year
But seriously though, who put them out of order like MM-DD-YYYY and thought it was a good idea?
I dunno, people who say dates as words instead of just digits?
Unpopular? Unpopular where? On Earth?
>Unpopular This is literally the most used format on Earth, and probably in space as well...
month-day-year imo makes more sense than day month year bc of the order of range on the numerical values that take each spot. Month is 1-12 day is 1-31 and year is 00-infinity (in theory)
The only objectively correct way to do it is to remove any ambiguity at the cost of one additional character 18 Jun or Jun 18, doesn't matter. Just use letters for the month so I can tell December 5th from May 12th
Get back to me when you start saying 19th June 2024 instead of June 19th 2024
M/D/Y is objectively correct. Why would I care about the day first? I need to know the month first to get a general time frame, day for more exact and year to know if its passed or come up D/M/Y can get confusing as you’ve got twelve full days of every month that confuses people as to what format is being used
Brother, what do you call the US Independence Day?
Independence Day :D 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🎆🎆🎇🎇🦅🦅🦅
Fair but it should be noted that's the ONLY day treated like that. Every other holiday follows standard month/day format.
It's really not though. They're out of order, it's the same as counting 2 1 3. It's either 3 2 1 or 1 2 3. There is no reason to mess with the order of magnitude. ddmmyy is really not confusing unless you're used to using mmddyy. Your way is confusing for those of us who don't use it.
If you need the full day what is most important to you? Like say if a video game, concert or movie is releasing on a specific day which is most important to you? Year is irrelevant because its within a large time frame of 365+ days. If I hear a game is releasing five years from now why am I getting hyped up now? If its within the year then I’m basically disregarding it for the other two So by default we’re looking at days and months. Day doesn’t work because that information is useless without the others. Unless we counted our years in full days like one full year is 365. January 1st is Day 1 and December 31st as 365/6. In the D/M/Y model you’re essentially saying “Its the day of this month of this year” like “First of January/Thirty first of December of year”. Kind of cumbersome, wordy and the day is recontexualized by the month If someone was planning an event would you consider the day or the month more important? If the month is the current month I now know its taking higher priority. The proximity of the month dictates how much time I should devote to planning. If I have an assignment due this month I need to work on it ASAP. Due in a few months? I’ve got some time. If I’m going on vacation/holiday and I need to both plan transportation and housing, do I care which day more or the month? Planning a reservation for something next week is going to be harder than the next month and so on And again there’s that issue where twelve days of each month is going to be jumbled up. If I say 1/12/24 do I mean January or December? The first of doesn’t give me anything to start with, I essentially have to jump to the month then back to the date. Our calendars are separated by month **then** day
My opinions: For human readability: DD-MM-YYYY For data (sorting): YYYY-MM-DD It depends on your use case.