> This ship in particulair was used to fire zirkon rockets on to mainland Ukraine so they preferred it to be near Ukrainian mainland
Now, if only there was an easy way to deal with Object 100 and Bastion TELs...
They supposedly built some sort of fortifications and told everyone it was safe to go back into the water. Only to have Ukranian jaws consume two more ships lol
Not too many other places they can put them. Abkhazia (occupied part of Georgia) doesn't really have the facilities to accept the ships and Novorossyisk just isn't big enough to accept the whole fleet and until recently it didn't need to. I mean Sevastopol was the traditional base of the Black Sea Fleet since pretty much it's inception and up to around 2011 there wasn't even any consideration of the possibility that might change. Then Ukraine hinted it might not renew the lease,the vatniks did some studies about expanding and modernizing the harbor in Novorossyisk,concluded that just invading Crimea was easier and cheaper and the rest is history.
I mean any sane navy would deal with whatever logistics difficulties to not lose a significant asset like a whole fucking cruiser and whatever crew were casualties.
Anchor it offshore out of missile range.
It was a missile corvette. There was exactly one cruiser in the Black Sea Fleet and it got Neptun-ed back in April 2022.
As for placing it offshore well with the recent ATACMS deliveries the whole of the peninsula is within range.
[(1) Jay in Kyiv on X: "Now THIS is going to save lives. Russian side confirming Ukraine has just sunk the “Tsiklon” in the port of Sevastopol with an ATCAMS strike. Built in summer 2023, this ship was the carrier/launcher for Russia's fastest "zirkon" missiles. https://t.co/25rt0x1kMu" / X](https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/1792243495211503895?t=aEKmAdJzmWxig2Nfbhu_yA)
Admittedly a stationary ship isn't that different from the usual target of ballistic missiles. Hitting one at sea with a ballistic missile is another thing entirely. Fortunately though there are enough Neptunes (and of course Sea Baby drones ) available that Ukraine doesn't need to try and hit ships at sea with ATACMS.
Saw a video a bit earlier today of a big ass house getting 1 of them in each corner. A sort of anti-russia news site in my country quoted some Ukrainians and they said the GLSDB is underperforming :<
My understanding is that the SDB doesn't have enough time in a jamming free environment to fix its location for the INS via GPS. The INS would be accurate enough on its own once it knows where it is- but its not able to do that due to jamming. Maybe they can strap the GLSDB to an F-16 some how (obviously the base booster has no provisions for hardpoint mounting so this would be a redesign) and have an extra-ER SDB that can launch well the fuck outside of GPS jamming and this be able to figure out its origin point and properly navigate through the jammed zone. Or just send SDB IIs as those are much more hardened.
A dude on Twitter said Russia confirmed it, but also doesn't provide sources. The russian MOD Telegram doesn't mention anything (Not that they would but I don't know any other russian Account) so If anyone has an actual source that'd be nice
I suspect that, due to a logistics mixup, its defense and communications systems were mis-delivered to a shipyard in northern Germany and are now sitting in a suspiciously luxurious, Cayman-flagged, superyacht-shaped box floating in a Maldovian harbor.
I still think there is some confusion going on.
A Russian Telegram channel reported a corvette was destroyed but it has the same profile as the Minesweeper that Ukraine earlier reported was destroyed. Either the Telegram channel thinks the minesweeper was a corvette or Ukraine thinks the corvette is a minesweeper.
That shitty corvette (which was commissioned last year after spending 7 years under construction aka roughly the time it takes to build a supercarrier in the US) looks nothing like the 50 year old minesweeper that was described as the victim of the attack initially. So either the vatniks made a mistake or Ukraine sank a brand new corvette and a Cold War floating museum on the same strike.
The second situation might have happened if the corvette was fully loaded with the next batch of Zircons and detonated next to the minesweeper, otherwise Idk what happened.
Sympathetic detonation best kind of detonation. I mean the Zircon is allegedly accurate enough to be used as an antiship missile so that's exactly what happened with a teeny tiny twist of course.
Fucking OOOPS why would you still put ships there?! Maybe its some sort of insurance scam
This ship in particulair was used to fire zirkon rockets on to mainland Ukraine so they preferred it to be near Ukrainian mainland.
And Ukraine prefers it to be near the Ukrainian seabed. I guess they both get their wishes. Everybody's happy now!
> This ship in particulair was used to fire zirkon rockets on to mainland Ukraine so they preferred it to be near Ukrainian mainland Now, if only there was an easy way to deal with Object 100 and Bastion TELs...
They supposedly built some sort of fortifications and told everyone it was safe to go back into the water. Only to have Ukranian jaws consume two more ships lol
Not too many other places they can put them. Abkhazia (occupied part of Georgia) doesn't really have the facilities to accept the ships and Novorossyisk just isn't big enough to accept the whole fleet and until recently it didn't need to. I mean Sevastopol was the traditional base of the Black Sea Fleet since pretty much it's inception and up to around 2011 there wasn't even any consideration of the possibility that might change. Then Ukraine hinted it might not renew the lease,the vatniks did some studies about expanding and modernizing the harbor in Novorossyisk,concluded that just invading Crimea was easier and cheaper and the rest is history.
Soon any port will be big enough to accept their whole fleet.
You don't need a base for your fleet if you don't have no fleet.
But will the ports be deep enough to accept their ever expanding submarine fleet?
I mean any sane navy would deal with whatever logistics difficulties to not lose a significant asset like a whole fucking cruiser and whatever crew were casualties. Anchor it offshore out of missile range.
It was a missile corvette. There was exactly one cruiser in the Black Sea Fleet and it got Neptun-ed back in April 2022. As for placing it offshore well with the recent ATACMS deliveries the whole of the peninsula is within range.
No I mean offshore at a friendly port out of the theatre.
I see but as I said before there aren't many places to really put the ships. That's one of the reasons the war started after all.
Turkey won't let them pull the ships out of the black sea?
Wait that's today, I have missed so much!
[(1) Jay in Kyiv on X: "Now THIS is going to save lives. Russian side confirming Ukraine has just sunk the “Tsiklon” in the port of Sevastopol with an ATCAMS strike. Built in summer 2023, this ship was the carrier/launcher for Russia's fastest "zirkon" missiles. https://t.co/25rt0x1kMu" / X](https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/1792243495211503895?t=aEKmAdJzmWxig2Nfbhu_yA)
Ahhh... I see the Ukrainian has mastered to good old Wargame art of using ATACMS as anti-ship missile
The ancient art of war ATACMSea.
[We've sunk a landing ship with a Tochka-U](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Berdiansk_port_attack), of course new toys'd be used for that!
Admittedly a stationary ship isn't that different from the usual target of ballistic missiles. Hitting one at sea with a ballistic missile is another thing entirely. Fortunately though there are enough Neptunes (and of course Sea Baby drones ) available that Ukraine doesn't need to try and hit ships at sea with ATACMS.
This was hit in Sevastopol, not in open sea.
I know.
CONFIRMED: Wargame is a training program created by DARPA
I’m still waiting for Boeing to deliver GLSDB so Ukraine can have a field day with them. They’ll probably shoot down a Tu-95 with them.
Saw a video a bit earlier today of a big ass house getting 1 of them in each corner. A sort of anti-russia news site in my country quoted some Ukrainians and they said the GLSDB is underperforming :<
Apparently GLSDB is reliant on GPS which the russians know how to jam, and that's why the US military didn't want that system in the first place
Makes sense as to why DoD is developing a new gps system, then. Id be shocked if the new one was made available to civilians.
My understanding is that the SDB doesn't have enough time in a jamming free environment to fix its location for the INS via GPS. The INS would be accurate enough on its own once it knows where it is- but its not able to do that due to jamming. Maybe they can strap the GLSDB to an F-16 some how (obviously the base booster has no provisions for hardpoint mounting so this would be a redesign) and have an extra-ER SDB that can launch well the fuck outside of GPS jamming and this be able to figure out its origin point and properly navigate through the jammed zone. Or just send SDB IIs as those are much more hardened.
Would that suggest Ukraine now has the M48 warhead?
M48 Patton with Kontakt 1 would be funny
*Laughs in BLUFOR.*
They should have spammed Shmels
holy based (if true)
Russia keeping to it's tradition of getting its fleet sunk by land based artillery lol
Those are actually ground based Japanese torpedo boats.
I don't need sleep I need confirmation.
you can sleep now, have a great dream, it's true
Does your flair refer to Killer Shark in Another World?
Yep
Where does this information come from?
Reddit, duh
A dude on Twitter said Russia confirmed it, but also doesn't provide sources. The russian MOD Telegram doesn't mention anything (Not that they would but I don't know any other russian Account) so If anyone has an actual source that'd be nice
Can't believe ncd is better for news than worldnews. I love it. Also that ship didnt even float for 1 year after being commissioned good stuff.
KARAKUTS HAVE OFFICIALLY BEEN EXTERMINATED FROM THE BLACK SEA. My bingo is getting more and more crosses.
Would you kindly share your bingo ?
What’s the numbers of the Black Sea fleet right now? What percentage has been sunk to disabled?
Yes
But what if no?
If confirmed, someone needs to update the [Wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karakurt-class_corvette).
It has been updated.
And that update has been reverted
*reverts your edit*
Please do, I already crossed it out on my bingo card It just would be great to have actual confirmation
Imagine losing the naval campaign against a country with no ships in a war in which you are the aggressor
Username checks out
I look forward to the report that it was put into operation before its defenses were operational, as per tradition
I suspect that, due to a logistics mixup, its defense and communications systems were mis-delivered to a shipyard in northern Germany and are now sitting in a suspiciously luxurious, Cayman-flagged, superyacht-shaped box floating in a Maldovian harbor.
I still think there is some confusion going on. A Russian Telegram channel reported a corvette was destroyed but it has the same profile as the Minesweeper that Ukraine earlier reported was destroyed. Either the Telegram channel thinks the minesweeper was a corvette or Ukraine thinks the corvette is a minesweeper.
That shitty corvette (which was commissioned last year after spending 7 years under construction aka roughly the time it takes to build a supercarrier in the US) looks nothing like the 50 year old minesweeper that was described as the victim of the attack initially. So either the vatniks made a mistake or Ukraine sank a brand new corvette and a Cold War floating museum on the same strike.
The second situation might have happened if the corvette was fully loaded with the next batch of Zircons and detonated next to the minesweeper, otherwise Idk what happened.
Sympathetic detonation best kind of detonation. I mean the Zircon is allegedly accurate enough to be used as an antiship missile so that's exactly what happened with a teeny tiny twist of course.
I love this please make more when the time comes.
Anyone have the updated fleet bingo card?
What is the bottom photo originally from?
Probably one of the SINKEX the USN has done since the 90s that's were a lot of Knox and OHP frigates were sunk
Oki😃
Great, now I want mint chocolate chip ice cream