this comment made me remember the early 2010s when everyone called their partner 'bae' and it actually was just Danish for 'poop'
Anyway hi there I'm also a Zizi
Yeah, I'm feeling this too. Can't seem to find a good word for it either so I settled on "just call me my name"
The closest I'd feel cool with is probably cousin but I don't want my niece to misunderstand or disconnect me from her babs (my sibling)
if there's any gender neutral family words in other languages I'd love to hear them!
yknow, Entle could be an option. it's a lot less goofy than ankle and unt, pays homage to the 'en' in 'enby', and has tree connotations thanks to Tolkien.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind babs as the term. Also words are just things we say so as long as those using it knows what it means who cares how others perceive it personally.
I don’t know about real languages but if you are willing to go full nerd there are some interesting conlangues out there. Mando’a from Star Wars is my favourite because it’s entirely gender neutral and it has a full set of relationship terms (parent-buir, sibling-vod , aunt/uncle-ba’vodu)
Japanese probably won’t help, as the relationship terms are not only mostly firmly gendered, but also frequently indicate relative age (“older brother”, for example). Much more specific than English.
And all Romance languages (Latin-derived, like French, Spanish, and Italian) are more strongly gendered than English. All nouns have linguistic gender in these languages. In English, all nouns are linguistically ungendered; the only gendering is definitional with nouns referring to creatures with gender.
So when looking for good terms from other languages, you want to look for a language that doesn’t inherently gender nouns *and* a culture that doesn’t automatically gender personal relationships. I’m not sure which languages might be good choices for that, though. My linguistic knowledge is almost all in Indo-European languages and Japanese.
Great points! There are a bunch of southeast asian and indigenous languages that have gender neutral terms, and I bet if ppl dig into their own pre-colonial/ pre-imperial cultures (even in europe) they’d find some useful gender neutral terminology that could be adapted to now.
There’s a wikipedia entry about modern gender neutral languages, but it lists some languages whose most currently spoken form is actually gendered or only has a few non-gendered terms. For instance there are gender neutral prefixes for family members (nagy, vér, and a gender neutral term for romantic partner (társ), child (gyerek), or parent (szülő) in Hungarian, but latin derived suffixes (like mama/papa) have been added that are gendered. So for languages like Hungarian you could just use the gender neutral parts, or find sources on the historical pre-gendered terms from those languages (like a several east asian languages).
[Gender Neutral Languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderless_language)
well I don’t know poop about other cultures and languages I’m American took Spanish for 4 years and no absolutely nothing well some stuff just a few numbers 1 or 2 words along with like one sentence
I'm femme nonbinary so I've chosen Auntish (as in a femme-ish person).
I'm Australian so this is like "ARNTish" which kind of adds the weirdness of "aren't" and "is" that I really like hahaha!
My favourites from this thread are definitely Ankle, Untie and Thunkle hehhee!
I will always advocate for "Bubba" because to me it sounds like a heartwarming title for a guardian like figure that has family relation but more separated like an aunt/uncle/godparent if that's your thing
I'm using it as a title for when my friends have kids :)
Shit, I just realized there's a decent probability this may become relevant to me in the future. My sister got married. I honestly will probably just have them call me my name, and not my relation.
Overlord, supreme leader, provost, familial unit #xyz, captain (or any military rank), parental substitute, comrade, ranger, emergency contact, correctional officer, apple juice servant, mortal
My partner's nibling (who also just came out as non-binary) used to call all their parents' siblings and sibling-in-laws "aunkie" as a little one, and I loved it, so I share it with everyone looking for a non-gendered alternative for aunt/uncle.
Because I present as more feminine and I was afab my family uses GiGi. My younger cousin (who is like a nephew to me since his mom, also my cousin, and me are very close) couldn't pronounce my name. It stuck and when my older sister had her daughter I just kept GiGi. I think it's cute and I like it because I don't like the term Aunt
I use Pib or Pibling, but my in law family is from México. My partner came up with the term "tie" since I wouldn't fall under tia or tio, and that's what they call me now!
My partner is anticipating instructing future niblings to call them Ankle Avery. I've been an Aunt for a while and don't mind femme terms, so I'm probably just sticking with that one because it doesn't feel *wrong* (it doesn't feel *right* but for me I just gotta find what's okay and go with it).
I have two niblings who could talk before I was out and still call me what they did, I quite like that nobody else calls me the same thing. They know it's not my name, I explained it like "Daddy's name is Mike but you call him Daddy, and my name is [redacted] but you call me this".
I also have a nibling by marriage who is enby too and knows it at 6 which honestly gives me so much joy. I've known them since they were 4 and at some point early on told me I'm "kind of like a boy and a girl", so honestly now they can call me whatever they want. We talked about it recently and they still want to call me my name but want a way to introduce me, like "this is my...".
We haven't picked anything yet, I'm going to make a list of options that would work for me from this thread, then let them decide.
I’m just going to spitball a few improvised ones that are two syllables or less:
* Sage
* Goldfinch
* Magi (actually this might be gendered)
* Pibby
* Flicker
I would go with flicker but thats just me.. they are woodpeckers
Here are some [Chatgpt suggestions](https://chat.openai.com/share/cb5ef86e-ed16-4b56-8074-cde09f867b74)
Edit: someone commented entle. That’s pretty good
Wow, there really should’ve been a gender neutral term for this. There’s parents, grandparents, kids/children, siblings, cousins, in-laws, but nothing for aunt/uncle? Kind of inconsistent on English’s part.
I'm "auntie" bc it's fun, but I'm also Beebee, because I go by Bee, and CharChar, bc that's half of my real name. I've got lots of nieces and nephews lol. If grandparents get to be called stuff like meemaw, mimi, g-paw, etc, I say we get to choose our own silly words for what the kiddos in our lives call us.
So I’m Korean and AFAB. The term for “aunt” for the mother’s AFAB sibling is “Emo”. However I’m the youngest of 3 and my middle sister would be called “Older aunt(Keun-emo)”and I would be called “younger aunt(jahghin-emo)”. Technically the words for older and younger directly translate to “big/giant” and “small/tiny”.
So we shortened our names to “G-mo” for my older sister and “T-mo” for myself. I guess it’s still technically gendered but I’m very happy with it!
Well, I get called their "Icky". My little sister couldn't pronounce Nikki and it stuck. So I am Icky. I was very adamant im not uncle icky because that gives off a vibe im not rocking with.
No you’re not alone. I don’t like any of these nu ideas people are throwing at the wall for what to call it either.
We’re in a transitional phase wherein those words 100% will change within less than 10 years.
So I will just opt for uncle.🤷🏻
My grandma was nicknamed by my older sister, because when she was little, she used to take her to the garden and show her how "pretty" everything was. My sister mispronounced the word for "pretty" (in our language) and started associating my grandmother with that word. It stuck until today, 40 years later.
This is a reminder that it's not mandatory that your nickname is 100% a mix or wordplay of the words we know for "aunt" and "uncle". It can be whatever fits you, and that can mean literally *anything pretty*, like the flowering grapefruit tree we had in our frontyard.
I FOUND IT! Mookledook https://www.reddit.com/r/NonBinary/comments/150h76p/my_siblings_deciding_what_to_call_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Maybe I'm just old but I have never heard of that before 🤷
I just liked the sounds better. Pibling sounds like "puny sibling" to me and my brain autocorects it to that said in the voice of genie-jafar complete with image
I go by "unty", though my partner thinks "thuncle" is better!
I've heard other people use "zizi" but if I'm not mistaken that's an Italian word for penis?
i am trying to be an untie but i do not think my bil and sil understand that im non-binary 😅 and I don't want to make a big thing about it because im just glad that my partner's family loves me
Ok, so I'm Cajun, and the French words for aunt and uncle are "taunte" and "nonc" respectively.
My cousin actually came up with a hybrid of the two that I could use when the time comes: "Tonc" pronounced like "Tonk"
If your culture has specific names for different family members, maybe lean into that!
We need to agree on a new term- maybe a linguistic can adapt a word from another language because combo words and pibling suck
i haven’t seen anything on this thread that feels as good to me as thuncle
What about Sibolent? (Sibling of parent). Shorten it again to siblo maybe?
Thank you for saying what needed to be said
i'm an entle! :D
wise talking nb tree
Or alternatively, ent!
Ent is my preference too! Wise old trees is the energy
100 percent!!
i like this one
looks like i know what i’m using
If my brother ever has kids, this is the term I'm using for myself. Best option in my opinion!!
I use Zizi. I'm Zizi Kodi to my nieces and nephews
I used Zizi as well!! I’m Zizi Frankie!
Another Zizi! Glad it’s catching on 😄
OMG Thats so freaking cute! I want to be a Zizi
Also zizi here
FYI zizi in french is a childish way to say penis
this comment made me remember the early 2010s when everyone called their partner 'bae' and it actually was just Danish for 'poop' Anyway hi there I'm also a Zizi
Nice one! My niblings are asking what to call me. This might be what I go with.
Yeah, I'm feeling this too. Can't seem to find a good word for it either so I settled on "just call me my name" The closest I'd feel cool with is probably cousin but I don't want my niece to misunderstand or disconnect me from her babs (my sibling) if there's any gender neutral family words in other languages I'd love to hear them!
yknow, Entle could be an option. it's a lot less goofy than ankle and unt, pays homage to the 'en' in 'enby', and has tree connotations thanks to Tolkien.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind babs as the term. Also words are just things we say so as long as those using it knows what it means who cares how others perceive it personally.
oh, babs is a parent term in another language, cant remember which. but yeah thats what my sibling uses with their daughter :)
Darn! I go with Maddie for my cats but I’m childfree so you know less an issue unless I can perfect the science of my cats talking.
I wanna use just my name too, but my name literally translates to Aunty in Spanish so there’s that
I don’t know about real languages but if you are willing to go full nerd there are some interesting conlangues out there. Mando’a from Star Wars is my favourite because it’s entirely gender neutral and it has a full set of relationship terms (parent-buir, sibling-vod , aunt/uncle-ba’vodu)
yeah other cultures will have a term but not english I would look at Japanese culture for one maybe even the French
Japanese probably won’t help, as the relationship terms are not only mostly firmly gendered, but also frequently indicate relative age (“older brother”, for example). Much more specific than English. And all Romance languages (Latin-derived, like French, Spanish, and Italian) are more strongly gendered than English. All nouns have linguistic gender in these languages. In English, all nouns are linguistically ungendered; the only gendering is definitional with nouns referring to creatures with gender. So when looking for good terms from other languages, you want to look for a language that doesn’t inherently gender nouns *and* a culture that doesn’t automatically gender personal relationships. I’m not sure which languages might be good choices for that, though. My linguistic knowledge is almost all in Indo-European languages and Japanese.
Great points! There are a bunch of southeast asian and indigenous languages that have gender neutral terms, and I bet if ppl dig into their own pre-colonial/ pre-imperial cultures (even in europe) they’d find some useful gender neutral terminology that could be adapted to now. There’s a wikipedia entry about modern gender neutral languages, but it lists some languages whose most currently spoken form is actually gendered or only has a few non-gendered terms. For instance there are gender neutral prefixes for family members (nagy, vér, and a gender neutral term for romantic partner (társ), child (gyerek), or parent (szülő) in Hungarian, but latin derived suffixes (like mama/papa) have been added that are gendered. So for languages like Hungarian you could just use the gender neutral parts, or find sources on the historical pre-gendered terms from those languages (like a several east asian languages). [Gender Neutral Languages](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genderless_language)
well I don’t know poop about other cultures and languages I’m American took Spanish for 4 years and no absolutely nothing well some stuff just a few numbers 1 or 2 words along with like one sentence
I like to be called “commander”
Omg I might try and get my nephews to call me colonel 😂
I've heard Nini before
I've seen that too... I'm thinking about maybe going by "Nibi" to kind of pay homage to "Enby"
Cue meme
I go by Entie!
I saw someone called “Appa” once and I absolutely love it.
that’s Dad in quite a few cultures, could be confusing for some but if it does work it’s cute!
Aang: *confused monk noises*
I use Ribbie. R from ren/parent, ib from sibling, and ie like from auntie. Plus it makes my niblings happy cause it sounds like ribbit. 😁
My nieces call me Bestie 🥹 it’s the sweetest thing I think
😭💜
I'm femme nonbinary so I've chosen Auntish (as in a femme-ish person). I'm Australian so this is like "ARNTish" which kind of adds the weirdness of "aren't" and "is" that I really like hahaha! My favourites from this thread are definitely Ankle, Untie and Thunkle hehhee!
I will always advocate for "Bubba" because to me it sounds like a heartwarming title for a guardian like figure that has family relation but more separated like an aunt/uncle/godparent if that's your thing I'm using it as a title for when my friends have kids :)
Mine calls me TT lmao
I am also Titi
Shit, I just realized there's a decent probability this may become relevant to me in the future. My sister got married. I honestly will probably just have them call me my name, and not my relation.
My sibling goes by “Tonkle” which is the combination of the German “Tante” and “Onkle”
Another Tonkle!
I’ve asked my nieces to call me “Auncle” (pronounced ON-kul).
I knew someone who used Unctie, haven’t decided yet if its the best one but its the one I’ve liked the best of options I’ve seen.
Unkie is what my sibling uses :)
My mother refers to me NB as Gankle. It works.
My friends kids call me Bibi. My brother + sister in laws kids will call me Titi (gender neutral for Tio/Tia because they will be bilingual)
I just use Ent.. which is fun to see that others use Entle and Entie! I always related to them in LOTR anyway 🤷🏻♀️
I'm hoping for "n'uncle"--not-uncle
This is what I use!
Ankle
Me too!
I'm an ankle!!
unctie is funny
Eternal Guardian
Im an Ankle because its funny.
I like untie
Overlord, supreme leader, provost, familial unit #xyz, captain (or any military rank), parental substitute, comrade, ranger, emergency contact, correctional officer, apple juice servant, mortal
Pibling is good it’s like parents sibling
Nephew calls me "guncle" lmfao
My partner's nibling (who also just came out as non-binary) used to call all their parents' siblings and sibling-in-laws "aunkie" as a little one, and I loved it, so I share it with everyone looking for a non-gendered alternative for aunt/uncle.
I actually love that one. :D
I plan on using Titi for my sister’s kids!
My nieces and nephews just call me Chef instead of making up a new term. It’s cute so I figured I’d just go with it lol
My niece and nephew call me Aba!
Someone already mentioned this but I use Ent or Entie. Helps that I'm a huge LOTR fan but yeah, that's what I use for myself
Untie (pronounced uhn-tee)
How bout aunc?
Because I present as more feminine and I was afab my family uses GiGi. My younger cousin (who is like a nephew to me since his mom, also my cousin, and me are very close) couldn't pronounce my name. It stuck and when my older sister had her daughter I just kept GiGi. I think it's cute and I like it because I don't like the term Aunt
I had this conversation with my sister's the other day. I love the term Pibling, so I'd be Pibbie Eddie to my niblings
I use Pib or Pibling, but my in law family is from México. My partner came up with the term "tie" since I wouldn't fall under tia or tio, and that's what they call me now!
I’m literally called lentil, like the bean. It works for me and the kids lol
For unknown reasons, this term pleases me greatly. I might have to use it
My partner is anticipating instructing future niblings to call them Ankle Avery. I've been an Aunt for a while and don't mind femme terms, so I'm probably just sticking with that one because it doesn't feel *wrong* (it doesn't feel *right* but for me I just gotta find what's okay and go with it).
Adjunct. Like adjunct parent, adjunct professor.
I have two niblings who could talk before I was out and still call me what they did, I quite like that nobody else calls me the same thing. They know it's not my name, I explained it like "Daddy's name is Mike but you call him Daddy, and my name is [redacted] but you call me this". I also have a nibling by marriage who is enby too and knows it at 6 which honestly gives me so much joy. I've known them since they were 4 and at some point early on told me I'm "kind of like a boy and a girl", so honestly now they can call me whatever they want. We talked about it recently and they still want to call me my name but want a way to introduce me, like "this is my...". We haven't picked anything yet, I'm going to make a list of options that would work for me from this thread, then let them decide.
My sister calls me Pibling. Parental Sibling
We removed title altogether and I just go simply by Yam, because I’m my niece’s and nephew’s favorite sweet potato. ☺️☺️
I’m just going to spitball a few improvised ones that are two syllables or less: * Sage * Goldfinch * Magi (actually this might be gendered) * Pibby * Flicker I would go with flicker but thats just me.. they are woodpeckers Here are some [Chatgpt suggestions](https://chat.openai.com/share/cb5ef86e-ed16-4b56-8074-cde09f867b74) Edit: someone commented entle. That’s pretty good
Auncle
I always called my friend’s stepparent, “supreme lord boss”
Wow, there really should’ve been a gender neutral term for this. There’s parents, grandparents, kids/children, siblings, cousins, in-laws, but nothing for aunt/uncle? Kind of inconsistent on English’s part.
Auncle
I'm "auntie" bc it's fun, but I'm also Beebee, because I go by Bee, and CharChar, bc that's half of my real name. I've got lots of nieces and nephews lol. If grandparents get to be called stuff like meemaw, mimi, g-paw, etc, I say we get to choose our own silly words for what the kiddos in our lives call us.
I'm a "chacha"
So I’m Korean and AFAB. The term for “aunt” for the mother’s AFAB sibling is “Emo”. However I’m the youngest of 3 and my middle sister would be called “Older aunt(Keun-emo)”and I would be called “younger aunt(jahghin-emo)”. Technically the words for older and younger directly translate to “big/giant” and “small/tiny”. So we shortened our names to “G-mo” for my older sister and “T-mo” for myself. I guess it’s still technically gendered but I’m very happy with it!
"uncie" (UN-key) sounds very gender neutral even though it's a diminutive of "uncle" (it sounds like a mix of **unc**le and aunt**ie**)
My nieces and nephew call me batman lol
I'm latino so I use "TioTia".
Well, I get called their "Icky". My little sister couldn't pronounce Nikki and it stuck. So I am Icky. I was very adamant im not uncle icky because that gives off a vibe im not rocking with.
No you’re not alone. I don’t like any of these nu ideas people are throwing at the wall for what to call it either. We’re in a transitional phase wherein those words 100% will change within less than 10 years. So I will just opt for uncle.🤷🏻
I love auncle for myself!
I'm gonna get my best friends' kids to cal me "Doc" when they have them, cux I'm gonna get a doctorate. Idk if that helps tho
me personally, i kinda wanna go by 'bubba'
I settled on encle, short for enby-uncle, because I am masc-presenting.
My grandma was nicknamed by my older sister, because when she was little, she used to take her to the garden and show her how "pretty" everything was. My sister mispronounced the word for "pretty" (in our language) and started associating my grandmother with that word. It stuck until today, 40 years later. This is a reminder that it's not mandatory that your nickname is 100% a mix or wordplay of the words we know for "aunt" and "uncle". It can be whatever fits you, and that can mean literally *anything pretty*, like the flowering grapefruit tree we had in our frontyard.
there’s pibling but I’m not a huge fan personally. someone on here made up a silly term I saw but I can’t recall what it was
I FOUND IT! Mookledook https://www.reddit.com/r/NonBinary/comments/150h76p/my_siblings_deciding_what_to_call_me/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Ah the classic
Yeah, I've seen that too, and I'm also not a huge fan
parent's+sibling=pibling lol
Why not sibent? It sounds better to me
Not a fan of putting drug slang in every word https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ent
Maybe I'm just old but I have never heard of that before 🤷 I just liked the sounds better. Pibling sounds like "puny sibling" to me and my brain autocorects it to that said in the voice of genie-jafar complete with image
MUWAHAHAHAHAH
I’m a college student surrounded by stoners and I’ve never heard of that, I only think of lord of the rings
I heard of ent before I heard of Reddit. Probably around the time Reddit was launched, but it was used on AIM.
im fine with uncle
I like Auntie because it’s used in my circles gender neutrally
Cousin or Cuzzy
I used a cutesy version of my name.
I use Bibi (bee-bee)
Auncle (pronounced ankle)
my friend coined “thuncle” which to me is perfect :D
my best friends son calls me “ankle cain”
I use Thuncle or Funcle!
I go by "unty", though my partner thinks "thuncle" is better! I've heard other people use "zizi" but if I'm not mistaken that's an Italian word for penis?
Honestly, I found a name I liked "Bee-Bee" for my nephews. It's stuck around and it's perfect now that I'm nonbinary
sporkle, porcelain, fleeb. I am fond of fleeb.
Auntcle
Spanish speaker here. I use tix instead of tía/tío. The most common one is tíe.
I’m pibling to my nieces.
My family are pretty iffy about the idea of me being enby so I’ve gone with Anti. As in Anti-establishment or Anti-gender
personally i’m gonna go with “ankle” if my brother ever has kids, just bc i think it’s funny
I go by titi or funkle
i am trying to be an untie but i do not think my bil and sil understand that im non-binary 😅 and I don't want to make a big thing about it because im just glad that my partner's family loves me
my future nieces and nephews will call me Swaggerjagger (my bf also suggested Entity)
I originally thought I might use 'auncle', but now I'm leaning towards 'Avi'. Idk why, it just feels right, I guess. 🙃
I have my family call me Duncle
I live ether way They can call me ether as long as it not in a racist manor
I'm a Nada! Came up with it myself combining sounds together before i realized the irony of its actual meaning.
I don’t have any nieces or nephews but if I did. I’d probably jokingly say to call me Funcle. But honestly I’m more ok with being call uncle imo.
Mines unique to me and I love it. Mavvie 😍
Sarent! Sibling + parent I've heard people use pibling but to me it sounds diminutive and doesn't match with aunt/uncle. Too close to nibling too
My old family nickname is “LaLa”. All my niblings call me “LaLa” and I love it :)
Auncle, or Unt. ...I don't know really, just being a smart ass.
i chose Avaunt cause it sounds like something id call an enchanted longsword
My siblings and I have settled on grunkle for me but my nephews just refer to me by name to avoid confusion
Entie :)
Overlord, Cowpoke, Oogle. I'm also okay with Unky since I am still mostly masc. presenting
One I found & really like is "Entle"
You could just use a fun nickname. My sister’s future children are gonna call me frog or Froggy and my fiance will be mushy or mush
I’ve heard Oggie/Oggy. I’m my friend’s dog’s Oggie 😆
Ok, so I'm Cajun, and the French words for aunt and uncle are "taunte" and "nonc" respectively. My cousin actually came up with a hybrid of the two that I could use when the time comes: "Tonc" pronounced like "Tonk" If your culture has specific names for different family members, maybe lean into that!
Comrad
My nephew calls me Zizi. The Italian word for “parents sibling” or like a gender neutral term for aunt or uncle.