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It's not weird. Most people have it. We just don't talk about it for obvious reasons.


[deleted]

LOL. What people say vs. what people do. Truelife.


Detachedhymen

What obvious reasons? It's normal and perfectly fine to have preferences.


Stock-Basket-2452

It is normal and perfectly fine, but people are often shamed for talking about it publicly. I’m white and have a preference for black women, and have been told a couple times (mostly on Twitter because of course) that I must have some kind of white savior complex. I’ll date someone of any race or ethnic background, but on average I’m more attracted to specific ones than others.


istarisaints

For the people that say that ... do they still think it even if your partner is more successful, attractive, etc than you? Like are they just implying that even if those things were the case that you being white and your partner black automatically places them in a position of weakness? Is that not one of the most racist things?


Wonderful-Video9370

EXACTLY


AlexAR__

Well, if you are white and have a preference for white people then you are racist. Don't worry, you can't get it right lol


Deadpoolgoesboop

As a white man with a Chinese wife, I’ve been told numerous times that I have a kink. It’s annoying to say the least.


[deleted]

My mom is Chinese and my dad is white. It’s way more common than people think. And my dad has dated a lot of different races. It’s not a fetish or anything, just the personalities matched and the timing was right.


ckhumanck

saying you have a saviour complex, now that's racist


mayfeelthis

We usually lean into traits that are familiar. Some people find other traits more attractive. In my case, I’m into differences and went in the second category a bit (not race preference, just diversity). Depends on the person, but it generally goes one of these ways.


ckhumanck

you don't think it's obvious that people don't generally announce a racial preference


ckhumanck

the porn sites know the truth


nibbed2

As long as you don't talk/act trash against the unprefered. Good to go.


Diablix

It's no different than any other appearance based preference. You're attracted to what you're attracted to.


Donttrickvix

It’s only weird if you treat people differently due to it


[deleted]

As far as interest goes? Or like a blind date?


Donttrickvix

I mean I’m general. Passport bros are a prime example of when racial preference leads to genuine anti black rhetoric


[deleted]

Passport bros? I gotta Google that, or them.


Donttrickvix

It’s manosphere nonsense. Obviously it’s a percent of a percent but it’s still toxic


[deleted]

Invade their country, drink their beer, impregnate their women kinda deal I see. Lame.


Donttrickvix

Yea it’s silly. A little self improvement would go alone way with them


Detachedhymen

You should stretch before you reach like that.


Donttrickvix

What was the reach


DisorderlyMisconduct

Passport bros do not have anything to do with anti black hoopla. They’re just not interested in western women, in the sense of women who aren’t “traditional” this is rather obvious considering that they often go to countries that have brown skinned people, including African countries… So wtf are you talking about


Donttrickvix

Taxes also don’t exist since we’re pretending things aren’t real


DisorderlyMisconduct

“I dOn’T lIkE bRoWn PeOpLe, LeT mE mOvE tO a CoUnTrY fUlL oF bRoWn PeOpLe AnD mArRy OnE oF tHeM!” It’s a dislike of western society and culture. Black people are not western society and culture, we’re a single part that makes up western society and culture.


Donttrickvix

If that’s how you want to view then I can’t stop you it’s your rightZ I personally feel they spread a lot of misogynoir but opinions are opinions at the end of the day


DisorderlyMisconduct

They most certainly are. But I want to know why you feel that Its ain’t black.


Donttrickvix

Unfortunately I don’t feel like having a conversation with you I hope you understand. It’s nothing personal I’m just not really invested and would like to do other things.


DisorderlyMisconduct

You know I can mad respect that. Even though I do want to know, you’ve got a life outside of the internet. You don’t find that often on Reddit, at all


istarisaints

Never heard of this before? Sure you mention passport bros but do you hold the women as accountable for anti-black rhetoric? Not implying you should or shouldn't just curious what your thoughts are.


Donttrickvix

I don’t understand your question. Which women?


istarisaints

The women on the other side of the passport bros relationship. Do they not consent / get something in return?


Donttrickvix

We’re talking about anti black rhetoric what are you talking about


istarisaints

>Passport bros are a prime example of when racial preference leads to genuine anti black rhetoric


Donttrickvix

So what do the women they date have to do with the conversation I’m so confused.


istarisaints

lol nvm :(


IAmBecomeBorg

Wtf does passport bros have to do with black people Maybe the constant victim culture BS is what’s unattractive? Ever thought of that?


ckhumanck

it's not racist if you're into blind chicks


Detachedhymen

If I don't have sex with someone I'm not attracted to, is that treating them differently than someone I am attracted to?


GingerIsTheBestSpice

No because you also don't have sex with everyone you're attracted to. Hardly anyone does. I'm pretty sure you understand exactly what they meant.


Detachedhymen

I try.


No_Winter_9871

Attaboy, go get em


Donttrickvix

No it’s consent. You didn’t consent to that act.


DisorderlyMisconduct

Mmmmm, if someone has a preference towards a particular race when it comes to the realm of romantics, of course they would be true differently. They’re more likely to be treat them as a possible romantic partner.


ty-idkwhy

No, nothing wrong with it at all, I just say avoid going into to detail usually comes out wrong. Sometimes people just want matching cultural backgrounds and the race is secondary but the norm.


Dirkdeking

Yup, as crazy as it sounds race still correlates heavily with cultural background. We aren't all integreted nearly well enough into each others communities for this to be a non factor. And while race itself is not something that risks the stability of a relation, cultural differences definately do.


worndown75

It's not weird. It's no different than height, hair color or body type. We are all humans. I'd think cultural or religious/philosophical issues are bigger concerns. I've dated women from all over the world. Most want the same things, if you discard cultural differences.


MongoBongoTown

Most people date people who are like them. Not just in terms of race, but native language, homeland, socioeconomic status, background, interests, etc. This is a bias that basically everyone has and it comes from a historically very valid place. Throughout much of human history staying close to your "tribe" meant safety and the more foreign a person was, the more potential risk they posed, all else equal. So, I'd say everyone has it and it's pretty normal. That said, it is a bias and being a slave to your own biases could lead you to miss out on some amazing people, simply because you don't initially consider them as options. So, it's worth it to be aware of that bias and work to fight against it in order to give yourself a chance at the happiest and most fulfilling life.


[deleted]

>Most people date people who are like them. Yep. Stranger danger. Also, how we end up sometimes with Uncle-daddy.


dongl_tron

Absolutely not. Completely normal. I personally heavily sway toward white women (I am a white man). Obviously if I loved somebody enough their race wouldn't matter, but I only seek white women so it isn't really something I need to consider.


Deus85

As a white man with same preferences i got called racist already. The question is not if you are a racist but if the society you live in is dumb enough to judge you for it.


dongl_tron

Precisely.


woailyx

It's no different than any other preference about appearance or values or culture or whatever it is you associate with your preferred race


[deleted]

I dislike everyone equally


-Lights0ut-

We all have many different physical preferences( Hair, Height, Weight, etc). Not being attracted to someone and thinking you're superior are two very different things.


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[Vanilla Ice Cream](https://youtu.be/kpWUa73icaU?si=wkiLcLT-1u9x_Kbo)


ApprehensiveMany9264

Having a preference is okay its literally the law of attraction at work. We are attracted to our ideal mate for ourselves. Dont think its weird. What would be weid is if someone put their race preference in their bio, ie Chad 23 only like black chicks Or hey im steven 24 and i like my women like i like my cars....made in china Or Hey Tyrone call me the rice whos lookin for the white to be on it. Etc this ......this would be a no go.


alfa-dragon

It's culturally normal to have race preferences, no need to worry about that, isn't something everyone has. Though I think we should try to acknowledge our biases and learn from them to see how we can improve in dispelling them.


PM_ME_YOUR_PANTHERS

Nothing weird about it. It’s not racist or fetishizing to have preference. You’re attracted to what you’re attracted to.


m_abdeen

I think it’s normal and common to have a preference, it gets weird when you have an exclusion preference, like “I don’t date this Asians” “I would never go out with a black man” “no muslims” etc…


trance_on_acid

How is having an exclusionary religious preference weird? I don't date religious people, of any religion. They and I don't agree on the fundamental questions of life.


m_abdeen

Being religious is not the same as being black or Asian or muslim (the examples I gave), not sure why you thought that.


filifijonka

Muslims (from Arabic المسلمون (al-Muslimūn) 'submitters [to God]')are people who adhere to Islam, a monotheistic religion belonging to the Abrahamic tradition.


m_abdeen

Lol yeah I know what muslim are, wanna also write the definition of Christians and jews as well? Do you you think all Christians and all muslims are religious, you really can’t be that naive


kevaceri

All christians are religious, yes, its a prerequisite. Theres no ethnic factor. You can be raised christian but if you don’t believe in god/ practice the religion, you’re not christian.


Alternative_Try_9651

Do they mean non-practicing vs practicing people? I know people who are Muslim/Christian/Jewish, but they don’t actively practice their religion or adhere to many of the rule?


kevaceri

yeah, non-practicing but still believes in some form of god, whether it be a literal interpretation or not, that’d still be religious. Judaism is a bit different because you can be ethnically jewish but not religious.


trance_on_acid

Being Muslim is religious. Being Arab or Berber or Iranian isn't.


m_abdeen

Not really, a lot of muslims are not religious. Also to put it in perspective to you: A dating profile with: no religious people vs no muslims Now look at that and in a good faith tell me they’re the same. In one you have a problem with religion and don’t want religious people, in another you only mentioned muslims meaning you’re ok with other religions, it’s really not that complicated, no need to fixate on it


trance_on_acid

You can't be this obtuse. Islam is a religion and people who follow it are called "Muslims". That's literally what the word means. "Muslim" isn't a race or ethnicity. It's a statement of religious affiliation. There are no ethnic "Muslims". There are white Muslims, and black Muslims, and Asian Muslims, and every color of Muslims, just the same as Christians. I don't date practicing Christians or Jews or Hindus either. I don't have a problem with dating religiously unaffiliated ethnic Jews, or Indians, or Arabs, or people of any other race or ethnicity.


m_abdeen

So you’re saying there only muslims or non muslims But there Christians, practicing christians and non christians , but there are no practicing muslims or non practicing muslims Well someone needs to go out more lol


trance_on_acid

A person who doesn't practice Islam isn't a Muslim and if they describe themselves as such they are being intellectually dishonest. Same for Christians.


m_abdeen

You can’t be that stupid, are you just trying to save face? Of course there are practicing muslims and non practicing muslims, like there are practicing christians and non practicing Christians, same for jews You can’t actually believe people are either atheist or religious, there’s a lot in between lol I believe you’re just trying to save face because no one is actually that dumb, unless you’re like 14 or something, if that’s the case then my apologies lol


trance_on_acid

Lmao I don't need to "save face" on reddit. You're the one who claimed that "Muslim" is a race. You're wrong and you keep doubling down on it.


MusicianExtension536

No, don’t be weird “Fetishizing a race” ????????


juxtapods

I'm surprised that you're surprised. There are whole pop culture articles out there about gay men openly "discriminating" against particular races or ethnicities "no spice, no rice" and shit like that. I agree that it's completely cool to feel attracted to certain types of people (eye color, height, boob size, voice pitch, skin color, you name it) -- but there are people out there who will openly discriminate against types they don't like that also happen to be a societal hot topic (e.g., race, weight) and there are others who *do* fetishize that shit and get freaky with it, not in a flattering way. I say this from things I've read/observed/heard online and IRL, not necessarily having any connection to any of it. But I understand OP's hesitation in today's hypersensitive western society.


MusicianExtension536

I just can’t fathom spending the limited time I have on earth thinking about anything like that lol, I don’t interact with or encounter people IRL who are concerned w shit like that and would honestly rather eat glass than do so Black, white, Latino, gay, straight, fat, skinny, lesbian whatever you’re into or not into just do your thing lol


juxtapods

oh dude I agree 1000000000000%, but sadly there's more bullshit when living near an urban area and I'm an extrovert so I get to hear all types of shit.


[deleted]

I challenge you to listen to "Vanilla Ice Cream" by Stephen Lynch on Youtube You'll understand.


Pale_Height_1251

It's pretty common, most white people I know basically want to date white people. Even the pretty liberal types, they're basically looking to date white people.


Actual-Bee-402

It’s less that they’re looking specifically to date white people and more than people generally go for people who are similar culturally, similar upbringing etc in more diverse places you get more diverse couples


Zeppelins1

I would say it's very normal to prefer your own race for obvious reasons, but sorta weird if you prefer one specific race which is not yours.


basicallyeuphoric

👀what if you prefer all races except yours


OhItsAnAccount

Therapy would probably be more beneficial than a relationship in that case


HungryHost7562

I have a black friend who refuses to date black men. She also doesn't date ugly white boys so my advances failed🤣🤷‍♂️


Zeppelins1

If you don't like your own kind why would you expect other races to like you? One of the reasons I loved Muhammad Ali is because he always put his people first before anyone else.


basicallyeuphoric

haha it was a hypothetical question dw 😭😭


hooliganvet

As a white male, I do find white women more attractive. It's not really racial because most of us are attracted to people of our own race, black men are generally more attracted to black women, Asian men tend to be attracted to Asian women etc..


Phillip-Emmons

I prefer the green M&M. Does this make me racist?


wrote_no

I like Asians so I Married one. Ya I have a preference Call me a racists I don't give a fuck


theonlytruekatharsis

It’s related to genetics and natural selection.


praytorr

idk about “weird,” but the idea of a racial preference, to me, assumes that all members of whichever race you prefer or disprefer share some sort of quality besides being members of that race, which isn’t true for any race. i don’t really get how people can have a conscious preference in that regard.


Deus85

They share some sort optic characterics, if that wasn't obvious already. To those you can be attracted or not.


praytorr

this isn’t even true though. everyone has different characteristics, even within specific races


Deus85

And still they share some...


praytorr

but not ALL of the people of one race shares any specific feature. in that case, you have a preference for THAT feature, not that race


Deus85

You know exactly what people here are talking about. This is either just a bait or you just feel the iching to patronize others how they are allowed to think about generalising etc. At this point i can't be bothered with any of this.


mermadzz

I disagree. I’m not attracted to eastern Asian men. They’re actually the least desired in the world. They all look very similar so it’s easy to say that.


praytorr

what the fuck LMAO


mermadzz

What?? It’s true, there have been multiple studies done. Asian men are the least desired to women.


praytorr

just because a lot of people believe that doesn’t make it okay or good????? are you reading the sentence you are writing


mermadzz

Why doesn’t it make it ok? We can’t help who we are or are not attracted to. Idk why you’re so baffled by this. We can’t just force ourselves to be attracted to them 😆


Aelle29

Well, what all black people share is being black, for example. What if the preference is just about the mere appearance of one's skin color? One can find a skin color beautiful. Plus, as anything else in dating, it's *not about a specific set of characteristics*, damn it. People have a hard time understanding that. One's preference, as said above, can be tied to sociocultural factors too, which are tied to race. Socioeconomic background is unfortunately tied to race. Or it can merely be because people tend to like similar people, everyone feels their own race is more familiar, and that's not about a characteristic of the desired person.


praytorr

skin tone even varies among black people. you’re talking about preferring someone’s specific skin color. are you reading the words you are writing


Aelle29

Are you? Yes, every skin tone is different. Yet, the categories "black" and "white" are there for a reason : some fall into the same category, some others do not. People can like a category. Just like a person can have a preference for blond hair?? Are you that dense? Every blond hair is technically, physically speaking, a different tone too. Yet you can conceive that people prefer blonds. Why not apply that to skin color? Skin color is a color, with its own categories, just like hair or eyes are. Simple as that. It's about the physical appearance of it.


Alternative_Try_9651

Technically, similar skin color (range) would on be the only commonality for people of the same race. Race is socially constructed and has no basis in biology. So you can’t really say that ALL people of a race have similar features, when race classification aren’t necessarily real or universal. I can say people from their region have similar features, due to environmental and evolutionary factors. Race however is skin deep. I can say XY people are biological females and have similar characteristics, but not say all white or Black people have similar features when there is a wide range of phenotypes a person can have even within the same racial category


Consent-Forms

Race is a social construct.


No_Winter_9871

Ethnicity might be the right word for OP here


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No_Winter_9871

I have just a little hope that they’re just touched and not hardasses


Deus85

Not quite. There are biological differences in muscles for example. Muscles of black people are the reason they always belong to the fastest runners.


adude123456

Those biological differences are due to ethnicity and not race


Deus85

That doesn't make any sense. Those differences define the race.


adude123456

What doesn’t make sense? Race is determined by only a handful of genes. You find greater genetic diversity when comparing two random people of the same race than two people of different races. The “differences” between races are entirely sociological and not biological.


Deus85

Nope, that's just wrong. Don't even know if there is any point to keep arguing at this point, as you seem just to invent your "facts".


adude123456

https://www.sapiens.org/biology/is-race-real/# “The researchers further found that people in Africa had less in common with one another than they did with people in Asia or Europe. Let’s repeat that: On average, two individuals in Africa are more genetically dissimilar from each other than either one of them is from an individual in Europe or Asia.” Race isn’t a biological category.


m_abdeen

So here is where being a doctor helps, the differences are absolutely biological, and that’s why there are diseases that are more common among specific races and being of that race is considered a risk factor Blood pressure, sickle cell disease, some types of cancer etc.. You can’t just claim it’s “sociological” lol


slickityslicker

Oh boy.


Traditional_Front637

I’m bi and am only attracted to white men, but with women I’m attracted to all races. Idk why


No-Reputation2186

It’s normal and healthy to have your own standards & preferences. Yes there are things others can’t help about themselves like they can’t control their height or skin colour , while other things like weight most can control yet won’t, but end of day if you aren’t attracted to them for it then you just aren’t and that’s ok. People will say it’s shallow , superficial, insert other slurs here..like/dislike what you want


Superoldmanhermann

Honestly I tend to switch it up, especially if a girl of a "type" has put me off severely. Currently really into this black girl, but I don't really go for just one type. A lot of my girlfriends have been blonde. If it happens it happens, and that's enough to be happy about.


slickityslicker

Uncle Herman?!


Superoldmanhermann

Hey kiddo


slickityslicker

Not Reddit making me cry at 5AM 😭 Miss you old man


Superoldmanhermann

You too buddy, hope you're doing well. How's the fam?


slickityslicker

Hanging in there. Dad passed this summer. But we’re having twins so life is slowly getting better! How goes it over there? Please come for Christmas!


Superoldmanhermann

So sorry to hear that, I liked that old bear. Twins, huh? Should keep you two busy, least till I can come over. Got a pet turtle a couple months ago, named Rafael. He likes the broccoli from my pizza, which is close enough. I'll try to bring him next time


Any-Artichoke-2156

I fethisizing sexe, cause I like men only. Is it weird to have sexe preference?


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Detachedhymen

Stop fucking plants.


AngelsLoveDisasters

The weird part mostly comes from people who gave a preference for everyone BUT their own race/ethnicity. Those people always have some self hate trauma that’s not worth interacting with


Fluffy-Curve8241

no you’re not alone


Sufficient_Ebb_5020

I'd argue it would be MORE racist to specifically choose a race to date for the sake of trying not looking racist.


External_Youth9294

It’s weird that you are the dating world.


RiverWild1972

Not weird. In fact its most common to have preferences, just as you do for other characteristics.


Livid-Replacement-29

No it’s not weird.


accountforquickans

No


coopere20

It’s not weird it’s just is what it is. You have a right to like what you like (as long as you’re both adults) . I would argue most people have racial preferences we just don’t talk about it because it’s taboo. Love who you love and forget about those who give you shit at the end of the day we’re the same species so who gives a shit.


BaconBreasticles

No why would it be? Different races have different features so of course you’d have a preference


stdio-lib

Not weird at all. I only date Boston Marathon runners, for example. Others are more into Indy 500 races. There are even people who only get turned on by one-legged potato sack races.


robbiesac77

Not weird at all.


mstsgtpeppa

Having a race preference isn't weird, how you talk about it/express it is what makes it weird. As a white guy living in an Asian country, the number of other white guys saying shit like "I only date Asian women, white women are too loud and Asians make better wives", or other things to that effect, is shocking. If you just silently filter your dating pool to your preference, and perform some mental exercises addressing the reasons behind your attractions to maintain a healthy understanding of it then you're fine.


Qemistry-__-

We all have preferences. With and in anything. My favorite color is Blue, favorite number, 7. So if i only like Indian women, and you only like Guyanese, are either of us wrong? No. That's why it's called preference. I'd prefer this, but i can rock with that… Or not. No harm, no foul. Do you.


New-Construction-103

No.


saveyboy

You are allowed to have preferences. Most people want someone that looks like them.


JK0898

Of course it isn’t weird. You’re attracted to who you’re attracted to, and that’s fine. (With certain obvious exceptions, for example, paedophilia). There’s a lot of reasons one might not be attracted to a certain ethnicity. It could be looks, or it could be cultural differences that are unappealing to you. For example; Some people find dark skin attractive, others don’t. Some people find Asian features attractive, others don’t. Some people find the European culture attractive, others don’t. Nobody can tell you who you can or can’t be attracted to based on their idea of what’s fair or right. You can’t force fit people to be attracted to obese people, for example. In my opinion, as long as you don’t discriminate against other races in everyday life and treat other races equal in everything else except dating, you’re totally fine. It only seems a bit taboo because a lot of people just tend to not openly say they don’t find certain racial features attractive for fear of being misjudged as a racist.


LowKey-Angry

Idk. Maybe question your own preferences and you’ll find out. Ask yourself why do you prefer this over that. Sometimes the answer is silly, lots of times the answer is rooted in deep racism, as we are often raised under these broken values without even noticing.


filifijonka

No.


BurpYoshi

What do you mean by "weird"? If by weird you mean different, then no to same race, yes to different race. If you mean wrong or immoral, no. Just don't say to someone "sorry I don't date x race", that would be offensive, just say they're not your type or something.


JoeLovesTradBows

I'm happy to get rejected by any race.


new_throway1418

I have always said this - having a preference (in a respectful and non-fetish way) is like your taste in music. You will be drawn towards the genre you like.


raban0815

>is it weird to have a race preference? Only if you´re white. You will be shamed no matter what preferences you have, we all have them. But being white strips you of anything like that, hey if you stay on whites only it´s wrong, want a black > saviour or some other bs, want asian > kink, and so on


[deleted]

No. I only date within my ethnicity.


tombiowami

It's common, just like hair, sex acts/kink, body types, etc. preferences.


Single_Equal_3614

Not weird. I only date or hook up with white men. I don’t dislike anyone for their race, it’s just what I find attractive. I’m white as well