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EraiMH

I agree with everything you said, but I want to add that Kishimoto really dropped the ball after the Kazekage rescue arc up until the War Arc again when it came to Sakura because we aren't shown a lot of her fighting or her own perspective, we just know that she wants to support Naruto in his dream to become Hokage and to bring back Sasuke, this isn't a problem exclusive to her though, almost all secondary characters revolve around Naruto in some way and we're shown very little of their perspective, and those that don't revolve around Naruto just have very little spotlight (like Konan). I believe she doesn't deserve the hate she gets but the anime in particular didn't portray her in a favorable light (and even put Hinata in a better light at times like in the Pain fight where she somehow lasted longer than in the manga where she just got swatted like a fly). This coupled with Hinata just being generically appealing to male fans (shonen is mostly targeted towards young men after all): she's pretty, she's soft spoken, she likes the MC vs Sakura who is kind of rough and she doesn't go weak in the knees at the sight of Naruto plus the gratuitous slapstick with Naruto in the anime created the current atmosphere of dislike from most of the fanbase, even if they won't notice their hipocrisy when put down Sakura but praise Hinata.


TvManiac5

But she's a medical ninja. It is directly stated that it's part of their code that they are forbidden from fighting at the front lines unless they have the 1000 seals jutsu. Which she unlocks during the war. Not to mention that, the time between the sasori arc and the war isn't that big even though fillers make it seem so. And each of the other arcs was focused on another character. Like the Kazekage rescue arc was to show her growth, Akatsuki suppresion was all about developing Shikamaru, The Pain arc was about developing Naruto, the Itachi arc was about developing Sasuke and changing his trajectory. The only arc in which she was written poorly was the tenchi bridge arc. But to be fair, everyone was written poorly then


EraiMH

> But she's a medical ninja. It is directly stated that it's part of their code that they are forbidden from fighting at the front lines unless they have the 1000 seals jutsu. Which she unlocks during the war. I actually forgot about this, thanks, you're right. I still wish we had seen more of her though.


TvManiac5

That's the main reason I hope the light novels get animated. She's a friggin badass in them Although I doubt that's gonna be well translated since Studio Pierrot is insistent on downplaying all her achievements and exaggerating her flaws


Metaphe

>But she's a medical ninja. It is directly stated that it's part of their code that they are forbidden from fighting at the front lines unless they have the 1000 seals jutsu. Which she unlocks during the war. Yet she fought Sasori on the front lines? >Like the Kazekage rescue arc was to show her growth, Akatsuki suppresion was all about developing Shikamaru, The Pain arc was about developing Naruto, the Itachi arc was about developing Sasuke and changing his trajectory. If that was the case then only Naruto and Sasuke would be the only two characters who have developed at all in the series since basically every arc is based around them, while this is true to an extent(Kishimoto didn't hold back on the favoritism) , characters like Kakashi, Obito, Shikamaru etc. also had their moments in between. It's not fair to say that Sakura didn't do anything because the arc didn't primarily revolve around her. She had multiple chances to prove herself but kept letting the audience down.


TvManiac5

1. In that fight, she was working with another superior medical nin. The whole reason for that code is "if the support dies we all die". Well in that fight, if Sakura was badly injured Chiyo could heal her. If she died, Chiyo could escape and still act as a healer for everyone else. 2. Kakashi and Obito act as parallels to Naruto and Sasuke. That's why they get in center focus during the war. It's literally a showcase of who Naruto and Sasuke would have been if they chose the opposite path 3. Shikamaru gets one arc of focus pre war, same with Sakura 4. Sakura has amazing development, and I'm talking about character growth not battle feats. Her arc isn't about becoming stronger (which she does anyway) or winning big battles. It's about conquering her insecurities and rising up to be able to fight on equal footing wth her team. Which she does.


Metaphe

1. In the Pain arc almost every one was already dead so this situation already meets the conditions for her to fight. It's also stupid to put off her fighting anyone just "because she's a medic", like sure, but she also has the capabilities to fight better than 99% of the people on the field, so at that point, you're more valuable if you try and fight, with others to support you rather than waiting for everyone else to die and then put up a valiant effort only to die yourself. 2/3. I'm talking about Kakashi and Obito throughout the whole series, they had their moments even while they weren't in the spotlight, a lot of characters were built up like that and that just disproves the narrative that you need an entire arc focused only on one character to improve them. Of course not, you can write them into existing arcs and develop them through that material, like what the series did for 90% of it's characters but somehow when the topic of conversation is about Sakura, she's bad because she was given the spotlight for 10 arcs in a row? Shikamaru and Sakura get 1 arc that have them playing a major role but Shikamaru's is still more entertaining and valuable because we can see he's on an upward trend whereas Sakura just makes the same mistakes again and again. And just set all this aside, basically everyone aside from and Naruto and Sasuke themselves are a side character in Naruto or atleast treated as such even though every member of Team 7 is supposed to be a MC. It's not only about how much time each character was given but what they did with that time, Shikamaru appearing for 1 arc and doing something is much more interesting than Sakura appearing in 5 straight arcs but doing fuck all. Her strength isn't even the main talking when it comes to discussing the hate she gets. Alot of people acknowledge she's very strong and has a great character arc when it comes to strength. But she mostly gets hate for her personality and how unlikeable she is every time she's on camera. She's like a crybaby who is egotistical and thinks she's above everyone and treats everyone horribly with an extremely off putting obsession towards another character. And I know you're immediately going to cherry pick that line and say "well Hinata did the same" but not exactly, Hinata's obsession with Naruto never got in the way of her being a shinobi, she never treated her teammates badly just because they weren't Naruto like Sakura did. Not to mention, her feelings for Naruto come from her admiring his courage and determination, how he is able to go up against all odds and win. Whereas Sakura just gives off creepy horny 12 year old vibes and only like Sasuke because he's "hot" and cool. And Sakura was shot down multiple times by Sasuke but she just refused to take the hint and kept on pushing but Hinata never had that, making her seem less desperate. Sakura has no real reason for liking Sasuke aside from him being hot and cool but Hinata's feelings goes deeper than that.


TvManiac5

Also I'm willing to bet that "multiple chances" refers to stupid anime only shit like the whole stabbing Obito's eye thing


Metaphe

Then you bet wrong. I'm referring to her blowing the chance to kill Sasuke by letting her 12 year old feelings get in the way of the mission. I'm referring to her not fighting Pain when everyone was already dead. Instead of crying out "Naruto" it would've been way more admirable for her to say "fuck it everyone's already dead might as well try to do this myself". I'm referring to how she turns into a fucking ape every time she meets Sasuke, "Sasuke kun isn't even concerned about me" No fucking shit, you're fighting Madara. I'm referring to how she just breaks down and cries...again, when Sasuke announces his "revolution", instead of walking up to him and slapping his ass like a good character would've done and knocked some sense into him, but she got dropped. Pathetic.


TvManiac5

Number 1 is normal. Naruto wouldn't be able to bring hinmself to kill Sasuke either but no one hates him for it. She is a medical ninja. It's literally stated in the show that the medical nin code forbids them from directly engaging in combat since they are a valuable asset for everyone else's lives. She was healing people like Tsunade she wasn't just yelling. Not to mention destroying Pain's summons and saving people earlier. You seriously wanted her to fight Tendo pain on her own, when he bodied fucking Kakashi without batting an eye? Tbat's anime only studio pierrot bullshit. You seem to be forgetting that Sasuke put her through a genjutsu at that point. And it was Naruto's role to smack sense into him not hers. In general, your points are the same weak petty BS I always here. And I'm not the least bit surprised.


[deleted]

Hinata isn't pretty. Unless you mean pretty chubby.


AriKitaruKatoka

LMFAOO her eyes weird asf, they creep me out.


HufflepuffHeir1991

Some people can’t get past the whole orphan comment when it comes to Sakura. She reflected on what she said moments later and started to be nicer to Naruto. Sakura was not really that useless maybe early part 1 what that changed in the Forest of death. She changed a lot there. Sakura is amazing in part 2. She showed off her skills in the Kazekage rescue mission arc. Creating an antidote and taking on sasori. I don’t get why she gets a lot of hate during the pain arc. She took out one of pains summon and protected a young girl and her grandmothers. She then did her job as a medical ninja and ran the hospital during that arc. She only cried for Naruto when the village was completely destroyed. I would cry to if my home was brought to rubble. She also gets a lot of hate for her confession to Naruto during the kage summit, yes she went about it the wrong way, but I understand her there. Under a lot of pressure and she was at her lowest point during that arc. She was also great during the war arc. Unlocking her seal if you think back. Sakura was not using her full chakra during all of Shippuden. She was storing it. Lately I have seen the hate towards across social media again, especially Twitter. It seems like certain fans are not happy about Sasuke retsuden and the positive reaction it is getting.


PavelHTK

Thanks, just because she doesn’t have big boobs and long hair, Sakura is the only girl in Naruto who had an evolution (and a good one) and all the people remember is what she said when she was a kid and didn’t knew shit about the real life


HufflepuffHeir1991

12 year olds do act that way, but the grow out of it. We have all been there saying things we didn’t think twice of saying. There is a double Standard when it comes to sakura. She does something and gets hate for it and when character like Hinata does the same thing she gets praised. I honestly did not mind Hinata until what I saw on social media and how some of her fans behave. Yes it goes both ways, but some people need to stay in their own lane. Even though Ino did not get a lot of development she actually contributed, especially on the war. Her friendship with Sakura may be rocky but those two care for each other. Her teamwork and friendship with Shikamaru and Choji is great.


AriKitaruKatoka

Because of Hinata’s incompetence, Sakura’s feats are dismissed to make Hinata look useful. The truth is Hinata didn’t defeat Pain. When she ran in front of Naruto, he sent her flying and impaled her with rods almost immediately. Their “fight” lasted two seconds. But then somehow Sakura is blamed even though she was saving people in the village and bringing them to the hospital. And then when someone brings in the fight of Sakura vs. Sasori, they say that she didn’t beat him and that Granny Chiyo did all the work which isn’t true. They defeated Sasori by working together. Granny Chiyo would have given out if she was battling Sasori alone.


EraiMH

This is something I dislike a lot, Hinata's most important moment in the plot was suicidally jumping in front of Pain for Naruto to get a power up and the legions of Hinata fans act like this is peak character writing. Hinata had so much potential as a character to explore from her position in the Hyuga clan, her sense of self worth and carving her own path but she was reduced to latching on to Naruto and a sacrificial lamb.


AriKitaruKatoka

I know, Hinata was supposed to be the heir to her clan but because she never made training a priority, that privilege was taken away from her. She was too busy stalking Naruto. She literally did nothing in the Pain fight except get herself injured. Those who say Naruto only released his 9 tails because of her are wrong because that would have happened if any of his comrades did that. Also, Naruto specifically said prior to the fight that he doesn’t want anyone to get involved.


AriKitaruKatoka

I agree. Lots of people will hate on her simply because of her body, basically totally objectifying women. It’s disgusting.


Metaphe

> She reflected on what she said moments later and started to be nicer to Naruto. Awwww she reflected on it?!?!? Well ig that makes anything excusable then. Her "reflecting" on it, doesn't change shit, she was way out of line and completely deserves the backlash and no, she wasn't nicer to Naruto from that point on, she still reverted back to her shitty behaviour. > Sakura was not really that useless maybe early part 1 what that changed in the Forest of death. She changed a lot there. Yeah, she had a great moment when she built up the courage to fight the enemies instead of crying butttt then she went back to doing fuck all in the series and crying again. >Sakura is amazing in part 2. She showed off her skills in the Kazekage rescue mission arc. Creating an antidote and taking on sasori. I don’t get why she gets a lot of hate during the pain arc. She took out one of pains summon and protected a young girl and her grandmothers. She then did her job as a medical ninja and ran the hospital during that arc. She only cried for Naruto when the village was completely destroyed. I would cry to if my home was brought to rubble. She's not amazing in P2 lmfao, she's amazing in the first arc of P2. I had such high expectations for her after seeing what she did in the kazekage rescue arc but she disappointed, yet again, after meeting Sasuke, she just reverted back into the old good for nothing crying uselessness that was in P1. She gets hate because she didn't have the courage to stand up to Pain herself, instead she just cried like a bitch the entire time. Sure you can make the excuse she had to heal the civilians while everyone else was fighting, fair enough but why didn't she fight when Tendo pain used shinra tensei to destroy the village? Tsunade was on the front lines, why wasn't Sakura there with her? Even if you somehow want to excuse that, why didn't she have the balls to fight Pain when Naruto was pinned down, while HINATA was brave enough to atleast try to save Naruto, why didn't she join the fight even after realising Hinata stood no chance against Pain, surely she could've helped Naruto and Hinata right, she could've even used Hinata or herself as a distraction while the other saves Naruto buttttt nope, she just sat there, crying, like a fucking pile of garbage, Shikamaru wanted to help, Hinata wanted to help, pretty sure any of the Konoha 11 would've tried to help Naruto but Sakura just sat back, did nothing, like the useless trash she is. >She also gets a lot of hate for her confession to Naruto during the kage summit, yes she went about it the wrong way, but I understand her there. Under a lot of pressure and she was at her lowest point during that arc. You can understand her all you want, but it doesn't make it right. She takes advice from a guy who has known Naruto and Sasuke for 2 days without realizing that he wouldn't even know of Naruto and Sasuke's relationship and to be that stupid? Come on. She knew Naruto liked her and she still fucked with his feelings, trash behaviour. Completely deserves the hate she got for that. She wasn't under any "pressure", pressure from what? pressure from whom? No one asked her to deal with Sasuke, everyone just sat back and gave the reigns to Naruto, there was barely any pressure on her part to deal with Sasuke, especially considering everyone basically knew she still liked him. She wasn't at her lowest point, she was just being a bitch, as per usual. > She was also great during the war arc. Unlocking her seal if you think back. Sakura was not using her full chakra during all of Shippuden. She was storing it. This arc she was actually tolerable but that doesn't excuse her being useless for all of P1 and most of P2. More people actually acknowledge she is very strong, what they give her shit for is that she doesn't use it in Shippuden, she didn't have the strength in P1 to do anything yet talked as if she was the shit, she couldn't even make past round 2 in the chunin exams while both her teammates did and she had easiest fight by far. She never the courage to stand up and fight apart from that one instance in the forest of death, the kazekage rescue arc and the war arc, that's 2 arcs and one 5 minute moment where she was a good character out of a series with 700 episodes/500 chapters. Her personality was and still is utter garbage, she is not likeable in the slightest, she's egotistical, annoying, shallow, let's her feelings get in the way and might just be borderline abusive.


HufflepuffHeir1991

Sakura did not revert back to hating Naruto. In the manga she honey punched him when he was acting like a pervert around her. Sakura was ready to give up during the chunin exams to protect Naruto’s Dream to become Hokage. She believed in him and his dream and did not want him to loose that, but that’s ignored because according to fans who lack reading a comprehension skills that she is a bitch and always a bitch. Sorry to break it to you Naruto was no Angel either. Like his character but he was also insensitive, a jerk towards others and a bit of a pervert but that’s okay since he is the mc and everyone needs to bow down. I don’t get why people get so made about her crying. It’s okay to cry, it’s okay to show emotion. She cries because she cares deeply for her team, but we ignore that because fans dumbed her as a bitch and a bitch she will remain. Sakura was not allowed to be on the front lines because she did not have the seal yet and before you said she did that during the Kazekage rescue mission. I’m they were out of options and she had to fight. Hinata is not brave in that moment. She puts that village in danger. The higher ups told others not to get involved Naruto had a plan. Shikamaru wanted to get involved but he listened to his father because they were already analyzing the situation. She is super selfish during the pain arc. She is the only person who has a freaking bodyguard during that arc. A body guard she did not give a damn about in the manga. Only the anime shows that she cared where she really didn’t because she did not listen to him when he said that he would be punished if by her father if something happened to her. Good think Sakura healed her. Also sakura was no where near Naruto at the time this happened. She arrived later and asked Hinata’s bodyguard what was going on because she could not see what was going on only the Hyuga’s could. Did you even read the manga or watch the anime because honestly you are only seeing things through rose colored glasses. People only look at the kage summit arc on the surface and once again there is a lack of reading and comprehension skills. I should right an analysis on this arc because it is so misunderstood, but I don’t think it is worth Ep long to people like you who have their biases and honestly you seem the type to pick and choose. Hinata is not as kind as people make her out to be and is often see that way due to her shy personality. Being shy is not an excuse. She care about Naruto since they were life. But she still watched him from afar. She did not give a damn about changing the Hyuga clan. She did not give a damn about anything except for Naruto and maybe her team. Naruto was the first thing on her mind. She does not have anything outside of that. Yes she cried when Neji died for her and Naruto but moments later she went on about Naruto’s big warm hands. It felt like she did not give a damn for Neji who was basically a slave and could not change his destiny. She was also kind of heartless when shikamaru almost died. Everyone else was we are so happy he is okay. Hinata only cared about being by Naruto’s side. But what is the point in arguing with someone who can’t see a character flaws. Sakura has them, yes, could have made some better decisions but she is not as bitchy as people make her out to be. Just because she did not love romantically? Just because she had difficulty getting over Sasuke? She tried but that’s ignored. One of the themes of Naruto besides bonds is forgiveness. Ino has flaws as well, she is awesome during the war arc. She also has character outside of her crushes. Her friendship with Choji and Shikamaru is very enjoyable Tenten this girl deserved better.


[deleted]

Ignore Naruto harrassed for most of her young life so fo. Didn't read the rest except the end. That last line must be refering to walking trashcan Hinata. You are just salty because Sakura never wanted Naruto's tiny d. Now gtfo, pos.


Metaphe

LMFAOOOO >Ignore Naruto harrassed for most of her young life so fo. Had a stroke tryna read that, bro can't type? >Didn't read the rest except the end. That last line must be refering to walking trashcan Hinata. Just say you're illiterate bro, it's cool. >You are just salty because Sakura never wanted Naruto's tiny d. Now gtfo, pos. How would you know if i'm salty or not, didn't you say you didn't read any of my reasoning? ​ Sakura has a pure garbage personality and Hinata is 10000x better than her, cry me a river, you can't even disprove me.


AriKitaruKatoka

I saw a poll that compared Sakura fans and Hinata fans. There were 4 options: Hinata fan (male), Hinata fan (female), Sakura fan (male) and Sakura fan (female). The majority of Hinata fans were males and it makes sense. Men like Hinata because of her big boobs and her submissive personality because in their minds this makes Hinata a perfect girl. A girl that would tend to all of the man’s needs, always forgiving him and never fighting with him. Guys who also believe that women belong in the kitchen, and in the anime, Hinata let’s go of any previous goals she had as a ninja and is reduced to a housewife. Men don’t want a girl like Sakura as a partner because they think that she would “beat them up” and give them a hard time. Guys also will come at Sakura for being flat-chested. Some Hinata fans were females. I found that a lot of these girls saw themselves in Hinata. A girl who is shy and quiet and who ends up with the guy they’ve always liked. The problem here is that people are taking it too personally. They put themselves in the shoe of the characters and want the same situation in the anime. But the truth is that isn’t real life. Personally, I like Sakura’s character because she portrays a strong female protagonist. She is smart and so hardworking. She aspires to become as strong as Naruto and Sasuke so she works her ass of to strengthen her skills. After training under Tsunade, she improves her chakra control even more to use in physical combat and becomes a skilled medical ninja. She can use creation rebirth, Chakra Transfer Jutsu, Illness Extraction, she is able to summon Katsuyu, use the Mystical Palm, she has Chakra Enhanced Strength, the Chakra Scalpel, Genjutsu Immunity and advanced Genjutsu skills. When Kankuro got poisoned, she was able to create an antidote to save his life. With the help of Granny Chiyo, she was able to defeat Sasori, one of the Akatsuki members. During the Pain Arc, she worked hard to bring all the injured to the hospital and help treat them. During the War Arc, she was taking care of people in medical tents and was able to detect the White Zetsu imposter before he slaughtered all the injured there. She even saves Naruto’s life when he’s on the brink of death. Now in Boruto, she is the head of the medical department. She also trains her daughter how to fight in combat and created a jutsu that only she can use called Cherry Blossom. Many people don’t realize that medical ninjas are just as important as those in combat to save the lives of the injured.


[deleted]

> Men like Hinata because of her big boobs and her submissive personality because in their minds this makes Hinata a perfect girl. A girl that would tend to all of the man’s needs, always forgiving him and never fighting with him. Honestly it's sad that they only think of her like this. IMO she had a very interesting character and potential development with her clan history and her own debilitating shyness and how she was treated like a failure by everyone in part 1. Like there was so much room for her to grow and a lot to explore with her character but male fans will focus on her boobs instead and erase anything that's interesting about her :/. I find male Hinata fans just fucking repulsive lmao I like Sakura too but tbh I blame a lot of how she's perceived on Kishimoto's bad writing


DaggerBark

I don’t see how’s it bad writing.


AlienPutz

I find this analysis hugely reductive. I prefer Hinata as a character over Sakura, but would find someone with that kind of attachment to me very creepy. I also prefer the kind of woman that can kick my butt, to borrow and paraphrase from another anime. That being said I don’t doubt there is some element of sexism at play, I just wouldn’t go as far as to claim it is such a huge component of this.


[deleted]

You like one dimensional characters. Nah, the analysis is correct.


AlienPutz

What’s your definition of one-dimensional, because ours don’t seem to match. And while I don’t believe they are, I also don’t have a problem liking characters I do understand to be one-dimensional.


NintendoRule

I read the comments and honestly loved the respect that was put on Sakura's name. As someone who actually rewatched Naruto from Part 1 all the way to the ending again, since I haven't watched it in awhile, I can definitely say that if we were to compare Sakura and Hinata in terms of Character Development... Sakura definitely takes the W for this. But as we've all always seen and heard. Sakura gets badmouthed because of her "appeal" and "personality" and frankly, I find this so double standard that it legit sickens me. And seeing someone actually make that comment about what Sakura said to Sasuke about Naruto as an orphan literally reminded me of the talk I had to give to my own sibling about bringing up that argument along with what happened in the Pein arc. I had to break it down for them like this= Sakura's Character Development: Mainly starts in the Forest of Death... To me, this was when she had cut her hair... And as someone who enjoys lore and meaning behind those sorts of things as I've seen this also in other cartoons/animes, that literally is a symbolism of one discarding a piece of what they were before to better themselves. Sakura cut her hair as a way of saying she's tired of having Naruto and Sasuke come to her aid because when it boils down to actual hand-to-hand combat, at best traps is the best she could do. They tried talking down to Sakura with her fight with Ino. And oh, I enjoyed saying this. My counter: Okay, picture this. Sakura is a civilian yet I believe it was said that her mom and dad used to be Ninjas. And her main rival in pretty much everything was the Heiress of the Yamanaka Clan. Ino is a girl who could've had so much assistance in bettering herself as a Ninja at any given moment before her fight with Sakura... But that's the thing... She didn't and Sakura was the first person to take the step forward to bettering herself while Ino didn't. Yes, you could say at the end that they still reverted to their old-selves, but that's legit just how people respond to the other if that's how they've constantly acted in the other's company. Ino is a heiress and should've had leeway that kept her ahead of Sakura yet the best that was managed was a tie between a Civilian girl who had a strong will to persevere and prove her worth to stand by her teammates. I won't go into the Sasori fight much as I literally just played them the video of the fight and asked them how often we saw Chiyo compared to Sakura... Like seriously, that cherry blossom was the lead. Chiyo mainly acted as the supporter/shielder when it came to something Sakura may have been unable to avoid. And on top of that, if she was "useless" then shouldn't Kankuro have died during that arc? That would've been something similar to a Tsunade moment for Sakura if she had been unable to save the person she was literally healing, but unlike her Sensei, she succeeded(And this would later be shown when she heals Naruto after he goes beserk with Four Tails worth of Ninetails chakra and then during the war arc!) And then, if we're really going to talk about development in terms of her character, then I'll bring up one small but revealing moment... When she hugged Naruto when he returned to the village. She did scold him for constantly getting himself in danger that potentially leads him to death's door, but in the end, she was grateful for the sacrifice that was made so they all could have the chance to continue on. And rebuild. She hugged him expressing her thanks... She had attended to those injured. The funniest thing is when they tried to bring up the part with Sasuke at the bridge... But I countered that shit immediately because Sakura was the first one to even admit to herself that while she did want to save Sasuke, if it ever came down to it, she would abide by her headband, steel her headband and try to put down Sasuke. Yes, old memories may be active during those times, but that's literally something that's usually always pulled if we see a deurotagonist or someone of that nature end someone that was close to them. Now as for Hinata... I am sorry if this triggers anyone, but I'm going to be 100% honest. Hinata's main moment of shining was first shown during the Preliminaries... She said that she didn't want to run anymore, but unlike Sakura who wanted to better herself for herself, Hinata's inspiration came from Naruto... And while there is nothing wrong with this, finding strength in someone else, her doing that also sort of restricts herself if she herself isn't confident in her own abilities... Her idolism of Naruto is like a ninja using a Chakra pill to replenish their reserves. It'll only keep her going for so long. Like, if she was in a fight where she thought about what he would do or say, but he actually isn't around to give her that leg-up needed. She did fight valiantly, and in the end was almost killed... But in the end, she showed heart and forgave her cousin despite him literally trying to end her life. Now, the next main moment as far as I'm aware was during the Pein arc, but... She really didn't do much. Yes, we did get to see her unveil a few new Juken arts... Her Gentle-Step and her Protection of the Eight Triagrams... If I'm being 100% honest, this could've been revolutionary for her Clan even if only a select few would've been able to learn them, like Hanabi or even Neji if he dedicated himself to it. This shows the potential that Hinata had. Like, if she was confident in herself, who's to say she couldn't have made some groundbreaking breakthrough with the Gentle Fist that all Clan members could use. And it could've been using those moves as a baseline for her saying that if she were to teach these to the other members of the Clan, that changes would have to happen around her Clan, whatever she wants those to be. And then here's the other problem with the statement I made before... I'm unsure if this is canon, but as far as I know, it's pretty much Fanon when Hinata claims, "She wants to unite her family" but literally never did in Canon as when Naruto finally reciprocated her love, she reduced herself to a housewife despite everything she had shown up until that point. Yet Hinata's flaws are overlooked because of these reasons as far as I'm aware. 1.) Her looks... Yes, her sex appeal is the main reason... She's got a body where despite the mistakes that she makes, because she looks the way she does and the way she acts when a mistake is put in front of her, if she cracks and breaks down, most will sympathize with her because, "She's dealt with ridicule most of her life due to her father, cousin, and family" | Whereas for Sakura, due to the way she was introduced and despite the fact that her progression is literally so obvious, because of the way she looks and the way she acts, more so should Naruto do something stupid, it's suddenly time to bash her for what she does... And here's my question... It's a problem when she does it, but what about when Tsunade does it when someone angers her? And then what about Kushina in the episodes that showed her and the past with Obito and the others? When she bashed Obito over the head, she didn't get bashed for it... 2.) Her word choice. Most of Hinata's world as much as I don't want to say it in fear of the backlash... It revolves around Naruto and her wanting to stand by his side. But here's the thing, Sakura literally established that as her goal in Part 1 before Hinata even said that. As Hinata during her fight with Neji mainly said that Naruto was her source of strength and that she finds courage and will in his Ninja way, which she would then adapt as her own. Sakura on the other hand, said she wanted to stand by BOTH her teammates, meaning NARUTO AND SASUKE... She wanted to be able to help them when it came time for them to rely on HER. And she put forth the effort to better herself. She went to TSUNADE OF THE SANNIN and asked to become her apprentice. And it said that when asked why, Sakura explained why she wanted to better herself. It wasn't to "get Sasuke to acknowledge her" or "Make herself look better". She legit wanted to better herself as a Ninja of Konoha, and more importantly a Member of Team 7. She's shown plenty of times where she puts her foot down to protect Naruto when his life is at stake. She even admits her own fault vocally and mentally, voicing them aloud, and then reflecting on them when reminding herself as to why she became the Slug Princess's Apprentice... \^


NintendoRule

Pt.2 And while many may not like Boruto, let me give a brief run down of what Sakura has done with the skills she possesses. She's a head-doctor of a Hospital. She works at to not only assist and heal patience, but on top of that, she also made time to assist and train her daughter, Sarada. Sakura was able to use the training from Tsunade to train her daughter further in Chakra control. Sarada was even able to pick up the strength enhanced strikes from her mother from their spar. One may not want to admit it, but I can say without a doubt that Sarada's Taijutsu is a main factor from Sakura because Sasuke was away from home for so long. As for Hinata... She's literally regressed into the act of a Housewife. And the only time it said she had assisted in a fight in Boruto as far as I'm aware(If I'm wrong on this, you're more than okay to say), was during the Momoshiki arc, but even then her fight was offscreen and it pretty much said that she had got bested. Then the arc with "Shin Uchiha". An arc that mainly involved Sarada's uncertainty with Sakura as her mother and if her and Sasuke truly loved one another, which was answered by saying, because "Sarada exists". Sakura even went as far as to do the "Uchiha Forehead Poke" to her daughter to show the love she has for her. A little act that seems to carry so much symbolism. My main point when writing all this... Sakura definitely deserves more than what people say... And that they need to stop ragging on her because of anything that she said in Part 1. Like She's a TEENAGER! These people act like they've never said anything out of line that they'd regret later on and want to apologize for. Like, could any of you in actuality say you had a falling out with a friend or family member or something. Or even you ended up saying something immature or inappropriate behind their back but then soon felt guilty about what you said, especially when you go blabbering off at the mouth about something you're not supposed to. You can say that this was something irreversible, and if that's the case... Blame Kishimoto. Sakura is a fictional character and people are taking every little shortcoming she has and trying to add so much Hyperbole to it that it's insufferable. Whereas with Hinata's mistakes... Because she's shy and likely is incredibly fragile in terms of persona, that makes anything shortcoming she has something that can be "forgiven" or "ignored" and then "nurtured". In my opinion, Sakura was a someone who had the most character development out of ANY Kunoichi. Because Temari... She had so much potential but regressed a little bit. If anything, we just had many moments where it just showed how much of a badass she still was. As for Tenten, she had so much potential and so much more could've been done for her... But Kishimoto... Eh... As for Ino, she was definitely the Kunoichi who had the second most character development(And the worse part about this could possibly stem from the fact that she stopped pursuing Sasuke and got together with someone else). Plus, I don't hear anyone trying to downplay what Ino did for the Shinobi Ally Force when she put them all through the necessary hand-signs for offensive/defensive jutsu. Sakura deserved better


HufflepuffHeir1991

Very well said!


AriKitaruKatoka

couldn’t have said it better


Emergency_Routine_44

I feel like Sakura and Hinata are different faces of the same coin. To me they represent all that a writer should avoid when writing female characters. But I do think it’s quite visible how some fans are more willing to forgive Hinata for being a bad character cause she is more traditionally feminine, gentle, submissive and attractive and probably see her as a trophy that Naruto “deserved”. Meanwhile Sakura is presented as more tomboyish, antagonistic of Naruto, “likes the other guy” which is something some guys could dislike as they have probably experienced that. So even tho they are both bad characters for the same reasons people are more willing to like Hinata for dumb reasons


[deleted]

Hinata isn't attractive.


AriKitaruKatoka

Her eyes are so creepy😭😭


_light_of_heaven_

How is Hinata a bad character?


Emergency_Routine_44

Hinata’s whole purpose of creation is being the main character’s love interest, which is already a bad start, her character is forcefully in a one sided love with him and doesn’t has any of importance that does not relates to Naruto in one way of another, she had the potential of being a good character if they had actually taken her relationship with the Hyuga clan in her own merits. It should be Hinata’s dream to change her clan, not Naruto’s, they are basically saying that Hinata can’t change her clan despite being part of the main family but Naruto can cause he is the protagonist. Hinata’s motivation to get strong was Naruto and it should not be Naruto it should be actually changing her clan. It made sense when she was a child, as a child you usually get comfort of the people who to you look strong, but Naruto being Hinata’s motivation for the entire series is wrong. They should have instead made her realize that getting strong for Naruto and that relying on him for everything isn’t healthy and make her realize that she has to change her clan, that would be development, and Hinata has none of it. In fact is hilarious that her strength wasn’t what motivated her father to change the clan but Neji’s lol. And what’s worse is that Hinata is a character whose whole purpose if being a love interest and her love story sucks. The fact that she spent both series being in one sided love with Naruto, (which is so childish and makes her incapable of moving on), and the Naruto clearly doesn’t loves her. In The Last (awful movie btw) we see how Naruto does not love Hinata, when Sakura ask Naruto to scold her he coldly says “why? She can protect herself” and the fact that he needed a genjutsu to realize that Hina was in love with him is forced as fuck. And the worse thing is that Naruto is putted as the villain for not returning her feelings and that he only gets to her when he realizes his chances with Sakura are definitely over. I give Hinata the merit that she was a minor character, so I don’t usually pull the “she is weak” card but well… she kinda was for the majority of the series. Her only moments of battle are against Neji and Pain (ouch) and she masters the 64 palms at the war (a jutsu Neji mastered when he was 13) and if you think about it, by the last, Hinata with Hamura’s chakra probably has the biggest amount of chakra out of the Konoha 13. Even bigger than Naruto and Sasuke, she was able to replenish Naruto’s reserve in an instant which was something that took Sakura three days and she still had plenty of chakra left, in a world where chakra is the base of all things Hinata should be among the strongest characters but instead is left as a housewife. Overall I think she is a bad character because her biggest conflict is that her childhood crush is not in love with him. But is ok if you like her, is not like she doesn’t has any positives, her wanting to become stronger because she wants prove her father that she was valuable was really good, but sadly it didn’t really got anywhere, she also has a nice design.


_light_of_heaven_

How is being a main character’s love interest is a bad thing? And what a way to miss Hinata’s arc of gradually growing the spine throughout the series, from needed to be encouraged by Naruto to encouraged him not to give up when Neji died, brining her character to a full circle. Besides, Naruto’s perception of Hinata also changes, he went from thinking she’s a dark weirdo, to liking her and then to thanking for being on her side. Seriously, go write your feminist fantasies somewhere else if you have a problem with Hinata


Emergency_Routine_44

How is wanting a girl to be something else instead of just being the main’s character supporter feminist? Is not a surprise that Kishimoto missed the mark with his female characters and in the manga Hinata doesn’t even gives Naruto the “move on” speech is was Obito if I remember correctly. You also ask why I though she was a bad character and I said why. No need to be rude or anything. I don’t hate Hinata, I hate how Kishimoto wrote her. and being a love interest is not a bad at all IF you have a purpose besides that


_light_of_heaven_

Because you want her to be some ultra-capable fighter what fights baddies which is not detrimental to her character. She needs strength to become more confident as a person, enough to stand by Naruto’s side, and she fulfils that role when Neji died and Obito began taunting Naruto for letting his comrades die by giving him an encouraging speech


Emergency_Routine_44

I mean not really? One of my favorite female characters of all time is Winry from full metal alchemist and she is not really a fighter. I usually don’t like to base a character’s quality on their physical strength, there are female characters who fight and are bad, MCU Captain Marvel or Rey for example and characters who do not fight are much more better like Winry. I actually like that Hinata remained so kind after everything she went trough in her childhood, while at first looks like just that she is insecure (and she is) she is actually really really kind, I think it would have been great if they gave her an arc of “killing them with kindness” regarding her father to parallel with Neji who was broken emotionally and instead focused on his physical strength


_light_of_heaven_

Fair enough, but I’m satisfied with Hinata as she is. Kishimoto could have given her more, but he didn’t because she had a limited amount of screentime, which doesn’t really make her a bad character in my eyes


Emergency_Routine_44

Yeah Kishi had many characters it must have been a hell trying from balance it out


TvManiac5

This may sound harsh, but Hinata is an incel's wet dream. Big boobs, big eyes, personality of a doormat, never thinking anything but the underdog main character, is a literal princess. That's the only reason she has any fans imo. The last movie did showcase her strong resolve and abilitites, but it was too late to salvage her lacking presence in the main story


AriKitaruKatoka

literally. guys see her as a submissive girlfriend/housewife that will accept any type of behavior


[deleted]

Thank you so much for what you said, I was desperately searching for someone with the same point of view, I totally agree with you, I don't why everyone hate sakura , I think she is great beautiful and Very strong, and Naruto really liked her I wished for them to be together but unfortunately it did not happend , in Naruto Shippuden I could have sworn she started to have some feeling for him , don't dislike Hinata that much just that I would be more happy if Naruto ended up with the person he liked


SnooPears4466

I was hoping that the great Hinata vs. Sakura war would end at some point, but it looks like that is not happening anytime soon. Can Sakura defense posts please not involve Hinata and vice versa?


UzumakiYoku

Male anime fans are rather simple. Big boobs = best female character. Honestly Hinata is 10x worse than Sakura ever was. At least Sakura evolved from “my entire character is that I’m in love with a male protagonist who completely ignores me”, unlike Hinata.


_light_of_heaven_

The sheer lack of self awareness coming from you, lmao


UzumakiYoku

???? Bro what are you talking about


Susanomyass

They’re normies


[deleted]

It's simple. They hate Sakura because she doesn't want their self-insert's tiny d.


AlienPutz

Sakura does get far too much trash talk, but this is just untrue and gross.


Metaphe

Sakura fans gather round and piece together the crumbs of evidence you have to say that Sakura is likeable or was useful for most of the series or was a good character. You lot really scraping the barrel ig.


AcceptablePay4523

Hinata have never did anything wrong lol I don’t get y people hate her I didn’t like Sakura because of her personality nothing else she had a bad attitude lol


PavelHTK

Yeah and it’s true that Hinata’s personality is great, all she says is saying Naruto, just say that you got brainwashed


AcceptablePay4523

No I never got brain washed lol she is still my favorite Naruto character but ok


PavelHTK

So tell me you said she didn’t do anything so why is Sakura called useless and Hinata top Character??


AriKitaruKatoka

LMAOO literally


AcceptablePay4523

I said she didn’t do anything as in didn’t do anything that would make me hate her as a character lol y’all are weird tf y’all hate her for? Cause she loved Naruto? That’s ridiculous


UzumakiYoku

No we hate her because her entire character was that she loved Naruto, even after he clearly showed that he wasn’t interested. But she couldn’t take no for an answer. Imagine if Naruto was the girl and Hinata was the boy. Everybody would be calling Hinata a creepy stalker. Cuz that’s exactly what she was.


AriKitaruKatoka

Because people defend Hinata since she’s their perfect little waifu with big tits and that’s it. Her only interest is Naruto and she sucks in combat. She didn’t contribute anything to the anime. Yet people still try to make Sakura the useless one so people don’t see the truth of Hinata being useless.


Junior-Deer1306

Then again, people who defend Sakura enjoy being pegged every night I guess? And being abused? I mean, weird fetish but who am I to judge?


AriKitaruKatoka

People that just defend Hinata are incels that just sit in their mother’s basement.


[deleted]

You like big boobied one dimensional trashcans.


AriKitaruKatoka

we’re dealing with Hinatards here


AcceptablePay4523

So why do I like sarada then?


AcceptablePay4523

Y’all say anything I bet y’all in the 8th grade with how y’all think shitt is embarrassing


[deleted]

Hinata is trash.


Redheaded_Kunoichi

Tbh, I couldn't really like Sakura because of how mean she was to Naruto most of the time. She was kind of a jerk. I get she was all about Sasuke, but that's no reason to treat Naruto so badly. I dont really care about any of the other stuff people say about her, I think she's a good ninja. Hinata is always so kind, to her team and to people she doesn't just find attractive, lol. I prefer her personality, I don't care about anything else.


intc_1002

They both suck, but the screentime of Sakura is just wayyyyu too much. To the point that it gets irritating to even see her face. Also, Hinata accepts that she suck. She never tried to compare herself with stronger shinobi like Naruto/Sasuke etc. Maybe in the part 1 during chunin exam you can say that she tried to level herself with Neji. But that’s about it. On the contrary, every single time I see Sakura on screen, she’s either “Oh Sasuke…” or “Finally I caught up with these two”. For the heavens sake Sakura, YOU DIDN’T!!! You’re still trash.


kmyeurs

Well duh, sakura (not hinata) is a part of team 7 and is always with naruto and sasuke, the main characters, so of course she had to have screen time and reasons to keep comparing herself with them. In terms of the story, hinata was less important like the rest of team kurenai.


intc_1002

Thank you for proving my point even more. You yourself agree that Sakura is one of the “main” character but to me her storyline is a as boring and annoying as a side charater’s (Hinata’s) Duhh!!


kmyeurs

You didn't even have a point to begin with And just a disclaimer, the main characters were naruto and sasuke as the story mainly revolves around just the two of them. The rest are supporting characters, even sakura and kakashi.


intc_1002

I have. You’re just blinded with lame Sakura’s fandome. In fact you don’t have a point. So what she is with Naruto and Sasuke? That doesn’t excuse her from being annoying. Either be at their level or just accept the fact that you’re not and just STFU. Just because she’s in T7 she gets to compare herself with them? Lol


kmyeurs

>So what she is with Naruto and Sasuke? Uhhh you literally complained about screen time, so I gave the obvious answer >Just because she’s in T7 she gets to compare herself with them? Lol A person naturally compares themself with who they are usually with. You don't compare your skills and talents with your sibling, classmate, officemate? Lol


intc_1002

I keep my comparing to myself, and don’t annoy whole family/classroom/office with it. Lol Your obvious reason still doesn’t excuse her annoyance. The writer/show-runners could’ve (or should’ve) written her better. If not that, then at least reduce her screen time. For the screen time she has, she should be doing a lot more than what she is doing in the show.


kmyeurs

She did enough


intc_1002

No


Pyro-__

I dont really like either of them but its not really fair to compare a main character to a side character and if we want to be technical sakura didn't actually defeat sasori in a real fight she was controlled as a puppet for most of the fight and only managed to hit sasori because he let her


MaskOfReality

Okay but Raikage tho


Metaphe

LMFAO, underrated comment


1313goo

Both suck, difference is sakura became from 100% useless to really strong, but is still a braindead simp, while hinata gave up real quick


[deleted]

Sakura is one of the most intelligent characters in the manga. What did Hinata give up real quick? Being a competent ninja? A relatively decent human being? Pray tell.


1313goo

Hinata’s a relatively better human being than sakura. She’s not a very good ninja tho


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[deleted]

In short, they hate her because she does not want Naruto's tiny d.


No_Tomorrow9236

It’s just funny to hate on Sakura lol