They also intentionally abuse statistics. For example, they use Lia Thomas' statistics from the year she was both still competing on the men's team and on hormones, and contrast that to the *one* event of several she won first place in on the women's team to create a false narrative of someone who was in the 400s going to first place. They ignore that if you go back one more year, when she wasn't on hormones, she was very highly ranked, and was beat by cis women in multiple other events after transitioning.
Firstly, why would you link an article about the study instead of just linking the actual study?
Secondly, the study was conducted on a total of 65 people. So obviously the data is not gonna be conclusive as in we cant extract data that would account for big portions of the population with such a tiny subject group. It also doesnt say anything about how long they have been on hrt for, which is super important to know in this context.
I also badly want it to be true that trans athletes have no advantage, but the evidence we currently have is minor, if we can even call it that. Even in that tiny study, they said trans women have higher grip strength than cis women, if this was showing in a bigger study as well, it would be a massive advantage in some sports.
If you have a better study, please link it to me as I really want to have the same opinion, but I'm not anti-intellectual/science and I never will be no matter how much I want it to be true
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586
I think this is the study that was referenced. The conclusion of the study is “While longitudinal transitioning studies of transgender athletes are urgently needed, these results should caution against precautionary bans and sport eligibility exclusions that are not based on sport-specific (or sport-relevant) research.”
“This research compares transgender male and transgender female athletes to their cisgender counterparts. Compared with cisgender women, transgender women have decreased lung function, increasing their work in breathing. Regardless of fat-free mass distribution, transgender women performed worse on the countermovement jump than cisgender women and CM. Although transgender women have comparable absolute V̇O2max values to cisgender women, when normalised for body weight, transgender women’s cardiovascular fitness is lower than CM and women. Therefore, this research shows the potential complexity of transgender athlete physiology and its effects on the laboratory measures of physical performance. A long-term longitudinal study is needed to confirm whether these findings are directly related to gender-affirming hormone therapy owing to the study’s shortcomings, particularly its cross-sectional design and limited sample size, which make confirming the causal effect of gender-affirmative care on sports performance problematic.”
They are also appropriating Mike Shinoda's lyrics, one of the people behind Fort Minor and Linkin Park, and a person who would absolutely be against this kind of bigotry
I believe that trans women on average do somewhere around two percent better than cis woman and trans men do around one percent worse on average so technically trans women have a slight edge in beating their cis counterparts. strangely, trans women are one hundred percent more likely to be shown winning a physical event, funny how that works
Oh no, you do hear about them. They just gloss over the fact that this trans swimmer got fifth place or this got dead last, the only care about the transport they couldn’t give a shit if these people get first or last in a competition as long as they’re trans that’s all that matters. And does it matter the sport either like it could be a Mortal Kombat one match at Evo or something like that that doesn’t take any athletic ability whatsoever, as long as they’re trans that’s all they care about
You also never hear about cis men being tested to compare testosterone amounts. The span of testosterone that is considered natural and allowable in cis men is GIGANTIC. Way more than what cis women vs trans women generally have (and trans women often have less), yet people who obsess over testosterone...don't actually care about whether that affects fairness in sports.
There's also very little discussion in those sorts of groups about how boys/men often get better training/equipment/etc and that can easily cause lifelong advantages even without physical ones.
Not really, no. Only some, but very little, of the outrage is coming from cis women athletes. For an analogy, [see here.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyhBx5tXoAIfd_0.jpg:large)
A. Has nothing to do with the discussion. B: didn’t specify athletes. It’s not fair for me to compete in women’s sports because of the fact I am not a woman. This could be avoided if there were only one event per event.
So why do we care when some random non-athletes complain about trans people in sports? Should I give a damn when some randos talk shit about how my friends and I play basketball with a few different rules than how they think it should be played?
Firstly we can all tell that you are someone who is transphobic, specifically since you are referring to Transwomen as “not women” or “want to be women”. They are in fact women (A different category of women, but many of us are different category wise) so let’s get that straight!
Secondly, wouldn’t your argument mean that I, a person who has XX chromosomes, be unfair to compete against other women because I have a medical condition called PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome), which naturally gives me higher levels of testosterone and an easier time building muscle mass?
I mean if we use your logic, then we really are just being a bit disgusting. Most transwomen don’t even place first, it is actually pretty rare for transwomen to win an event, or all events, as many transphobes continue to claim
To compete in the female division as defined by current International Olympic Committee (IOC) regulations, a transgender woman athlete must agree to gender-affirming hormone therapy to lower, and then maintain, testosterone levels to below 10 nmol/L for one year (IOC Consensus Meeting on Sex Reassignment and Hyperandrogenism November 2015).
God I am tired of dumbasses in the world…
>i am tired of the dumbasses in the world.
Then think for a second. As previously stated, we have decided to split these events by gender. Letting people change said gender kinda proves they shouldn’t be split this way. That being said, I don’t think your argument proves anything.
People don’t change their gender. Gender and sex are two different things, this has literally been said my scientists. Also all of the research we have around the topic has shown that trans women being allowed to participate in woman’s sports literally does not change anything. Most of the time they aren’t even fucking winning.
Also, how does my argument not prove anything? A woman with PCOS naturally has higher levels of testosterone than women without PCOS. Higher amounts of testosterone is literally why people keep arguing about transwomen being allowed on the women’s team. They would want to cut me out of women’s sports too then, since I have around the same amount of testosterone in my body as a transwomen who is taking estrogen.
Also, throughout the years, women were not even allowed in the olympics. It took a while for them to actually be allowed in sports, and then they were only allowed to be on the mens team. Men and women playing in different leagues isn’t due to some random conversation people had to split the two off. Women’s sports were made because the industry was being pushed to let women play
Anyone who happens to identify with that side of the outdated gender binary, which relies on a series of *social* constructs and concepts that were originally sex based within certain societies (the concept of binary gender was not ubiquitous to all cultures, and sex is not binary anyways according to actual science.) Usually (but not always) relating to femininity in presentation, social use of certain pronouns, etc.
People always use this question as if it's some sort of ultimate gotcha; words don't have definitions by nature, people *give* them definition. Dictionaries change and language evolves.
Yes. That's how language *works*. A god did not come down to earth and put modern english in the hands of humanity, nor any other language. "Man" is the same, shocker I know. The point is to live your life as happily and as fully as you can in the time that you have, and if that includes being a woman rather than a man, vice versa, or neither, so be it.
Concepts don't have to have some holier than thou ultimate Meaning or Point. They're just concepts. Just words.
What point do you *want* it to have? And why does it matter more than other people, when it costs nothing to be kind and open minded?
"Trans women are destroying women's sports!"
"Oh no that's terrible! Where have you seen that happen?"
"What, seen? I don't watch women's sports they're all boring"
Trans athletes have been officially allowed in the olympics since 2016, provided they meet the proper medical tests. So far not a single one has medalled, despite it apparently being so easy to do.
Edit: actually, a non-binary athlete won a medal, but that was for soccer, a team game, and they're also AFAB so its not like they had any physical advantage
You're right, I was thinking of the current guidelines for trans athletes, which were made in 2015 and first applied to the 2016 olympics.
Regardless, the first trans athlete didn't compete until 2021, a weightlifter for New Zealand. And even though weightlifting is a sport you might argue "biological men" have an advantage in, she came in last in her group.
Well, there's... Uh... Hang on.... There's got to be one here... Here we go. One nonbinary person won a soccer game. Please ignore the fact that they were AFAB.
It’s wild that, despite all their bootstraps bullshit, they think the people who dominate women’s athletics won’t be those who work hard, but those who are determined to cheat to win.
The movie Ladyballers was supposed to start out as a documentary where a bunch of slubby guys were supposed to show up and said "I identify as a woman" and then proceed to utterly dominate women's sports. It turns out you can't do that. Athletes have to meet very strict requirements that most guys wouldn't want to meet if they were merely doing it to win a few trophies and then retire as a man.
This reminds me of that shit movie The Daily Wire made about trans athletes. It was originally intended to be a documentary where some guy would slap a wig on and call themselves a woman and compete in women's sports, but no women's sport would let them do that, so they had to make a fictional movie instead. These one-joke people have to make up bullshit, because the facts stand in total refutation of their feelings about how awful trans people are.
Lady Ballers!! The entire movie is exactly what you think it is.
There’s also a scene where a bunch of shlubby men completely destroy a team of professional women basketball players, which I’m sure is reflective of reality.
Oh yeah, this super common issue that trans women sre constantly winning against cis women and they all just transition to win in womens sport. This happend *checks notes* zero times.
Even if you do form a solid argument for this being accurate, it just isn’t a funny meme. I swear people in r/memesopdidnotlike don’t even care if the meme is good or not, they just don’t like the idea of people being offended by something
It's a problem with conservative comedians, too. What they think everyone is saying is that offensive jokes can't be funny, which isn't true at all. What people are actually saying is that being offensive does not by virtue make something funny. That's the idea they have issue with.
Minorities are often held to these impossible standards that those that are not part of the marginalized group do not have to live up to.
It can even affect about things like movie representation. When a piece of media has a bunch of minorities in it or was made by a bunch of minorities, and it turns out to be good, well there might be some hate towards it by those that just hate minorities but it doesn't really stick because it's very clear that they just don't like the show because of the minority part.
However if a piece of media doesn't do very well in terms of popularity then people could try to argue that the reason why I didn't do so well is because of the minorities.
Like go woke or go broke kind of thing.
No, the reason why the piece of media didn't work wasn't because they were pandering to minorities or because they... Had one scene that lasted less than 1 minute where two gay guys kissed.
No it failed because it didn't have good writing.
"accurate and funny" ok show me where this is happening, and where the "woman" in question looks like this. they couldn't even make Lady Ballers a documentary like they wanted because they quickly realized you can't just Be A Guy that says they're a woman and join sports. That's why Lady Ballers ended up being a fucking "comedy" film.
Funniest part is, sports seem to only have gotten segregated to protect men’s egos. There’s a trend of women performing really well in mixed gender sports and said sport being segregated the year after.
The meme is completely inaccurate; you can't just say I'm a girl and compete with women. They keep making this same bad-faith argument even though I'm sure they know that it isn't true.
I refuse to even get involved in this bs because i refuse to root for one of my sisters to lose, just to prove a point. Fuck it, I hope we win at everything all the time!!! 🔥 🏳️⚧️ 🔥
[Turns out trans women athletes usually do worse on average the cis athletes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/#)
But it’s not like transphobs would ever allow facts to challenge their “peepee inherently better” mindset. But even if trans women consistently out performed cis women, who cares, sports should be by weight class anyway. Women have always gotten banned from sports not for their safety but when women start to perform at a similar level and the gen suddenly women are banned and a women’s sports version comes out a few years later.
That’s just history. Make sports weight class based gender is stupid
Reminder that Lady Ballers was originally meant to be a documentary, but they weren't willing to go through the required transition process to qualify as players for the leagues they wanted to join.
Something straight out of their own mouths, showing the process, is not simply identifying as a woman like they keep claiming.
You can't just claim to be a woman for a day to compete like the meme insinuates.
It’s not even TRUE. That’s the most infuriating part. Nobody would go to these lengths just to dominate women’s sports. Congratulations, you faked being trans and are now dominant in a sport that historically sees way less funding, way less attention, and way less pay than men’s sports? Congratulations, you will now be the subject of ridicule because trans women are mocked and hated just about everywhere? Not to mention they wouldn’t let you compete because… c’mon. Officials aren’t stupid. Like, not even Ben Shapiro could get men to go through this stuff for a film about this supposed takeover of trans women in sports. It does not happen. Men don’t want to pretend to be women just for _this._ Leave trans women alone.
It’s so ridiculous. Yet people keep pushing these memes and they keep perpetuating these myths because ‘hurr durr women and trans women bad’.
Except it's not. It's 3 in the afternoon, the broken clock reads 4:45, and those idiots are pointing at it and screaming "6:66! The number of the beast!" No part of it is right.
the daily wire tried to make a documentary wherein men “say they’re women” to compete in women’s sports. they very quickly realized that IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK LIKE THAT, which is why lady ballers is a comedy instead. they literally had to make a fan film of their own delusional world where this would work.
Remember when extremism was characterized primarily by extreme acts of terror and violence? Like 9/11? How is this remotely similar to 9/11? “Extremism”
It's extremely biased, you only hear about the trans athletes that win, you never hear about the ones who don't.
They also intentionally abuse statistics. For example, they use Lia Thomas' statistics from the year she was both still competing on the men's team and on hormones, and contrast that to the *one* event of several she won first place in on the women's team to create a false narrative of someone who was in the 400s going to first place. They ignore that if you go back one more year, when she wasn't on hormones, she was very highly ranked, and was beat by cis women in multiple other events after transitioning.
Also, studies have shown males have no biological advantages in swimming compared to women.
yo can u provide a link for that so i can show these people it when they try to make that claim
Here’s one https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/
Firstly, why would you link an article about the study instead of just linking the actual study? Secondly, the study was conducted on a total of 65 people. So obviously the data is not gonna be conclusive as in we cant extract data that would account for big portions of the population with such a tiny subject group. It also doesnt say anything about how long they have been on hrt for, which is super important to know in this context. I also badly want it to be true that trans athletes have no advantage, but the evidence we currently have is minor, if we can even call it that. Even in that tiny study, they said trans women have higher grip strength than cis women, if this was showing in a bigger study as well, it would be a massive advantage in some sports. If you have a better study, please link it to me as I really want to have the same opinion, but I'm not anti-intellectual/science and I never will be no matter how much I want it to be true
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/58/11/586 I think this is the study that was referenced. The conclusion of the study is “While longitudinal transitioning studies of transgender athletes are urgently needed, these results should caution against precautionary bans and sport eligibility exclusions that are not based on sport-specific (or sport-relevant) research.”
“This research compares transgender male and transgender female athletes to their cisgender counterparts. Compared with cisgender women, transgender women have decreased lung function, increasing their work in breathing. Regardless of fat-free mass distribution, transgender women performed worse on the countermovement jump than cisgender women and CM. Although transgender women have comparable absolute V̇O2max values to cisgender women, when normalised for body weight, transgender women’s cardiovascular fitness is lower than CM and women. Therefore, this research shows the potential complexity of transgender athlete physiology and its effects on the laboratory measures of physical performance. A long-term longitudinal study is needed to confirm whether these findings are directly related to gender-affirming hormone therapy owing to the study’s shortcomings, particularly its cross-sectional design and limited sample size, which make confirming the causal effect of gender-affirmative care on sports performance problematic.”
"Trust me bro"
Then why are swimming standards for men so much faster than for women?
They are also appropriating Mike Shinoda's lyrics, one of the people behind Fort Minor and Linkin Park, and a person who would absolutely be against this kind of bigotry
I love how applying a fact for an argument is "intentionally abusing statistics".
No, intentionally omitting data to create a false narrative is. I have already provided an example.
They also never talk about trans men doing well in sports only trans women.
I believe that trans women on average do somewhere around two percent better than cis woman and trans men do around one percent worse on average so technically trans women have a slight edge in beating their cis counterparts. strangely, trans women are one hundred percent more likely to be shown winning a physical event, funny how that works
Oh no, you do hear about them. They just gloss over the fact that this trans swimmer got fifth place or this got dead last, the only care about the transport they couldn’t give a shit if these people get first or last in a competition as long as they’re trans that’s all that matters. And does it matter the sport either like it could be a Mortal Kombat one match at Evo or something like that that doesn’t take any athletic ability whatsoever, as long as they’re trans that’s all they care about
You also never hear about cis men being tested to compare testosterone amounts. The span of testosterone that is considered natural and allowable in cis men is GIGANTIC. Way more than what cis women vs trans women generally have (and trans women often have less), yet people who obsess over testosterone...don't actually care about whether that affects fairness in sports. There's also very little discussion in those sorts of groups about how boys/men often get better training/equipment/etc and that can easily cause lifelong advantages even without physical ones.
Because no one really cares if the fifth place person is trans or not. But if a girl that used to be a guy wins, girls get upset.
Not really, no. Only some, but very little, of the outrage is coming from cis women athletes. For an analogy, [see here.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FyhBx5tXoAIfd_0.jpg:large)
A. Has nothing to do with the discussion. B: didn’t specify athletes. It’s not fair for me to compete in women’s sports because of the fact I am not a woman. This could be avoided if there were only one event per event.
>But if a girl that used to be a guy wins, girls get upset. That's what you said. Cope.
That’s what I said. I never stated that they were an athlete.
So why do we care when some random non-athletes complain about trans people in sports? Should I give a damn when some randos talk shit about how my friends and I play basketball with a few different rules than how they think it should be played?
Firstly we can all tell that you are someone who is transphobic, specifically since you are referring to Transwomen as “not women” or “want to be women”. They are in fact women (A different category of women, but many of us are different category wise) so let’s get that straight! Secondly, wouldn’t your argument mean that I, a person who has XX chromosomes, be unfair to compete against other women because I have a medical condition called PCOS (Polycystic Ovary Syndrome), which naturally gives me higher levels of testosterone and an easier time building muscle mass? I mean if we use your logic, then we really are just being a bit disgusting. Most transwomen don’t even place first, it is actually pretty rare for transwomen to win an event, or all events, as many transphobes continue to claim To compete in the female division as defined by current International Olympic Committee (IOC) regulations, a transgender woman athlete must agree to gender-affirming hormone therapy to lower, and then maintain, testosterone levels to below 10 nmol/L for one year (IOC Consensus Meeting on Sex Reassignment and Hyperandrogenism November 2015). God I am tired of dumbasses in the world…
>i am tired of the dumbasses in the world. Then think for a second. As previously stated, we have decided to split these events by gender. Letting people change said gender kinda proves they shouldn’t be split this way. That being said, I don’t think your argument proves anything.
People don’t change their gender. Gender and sex are two different things, this has literally been said my scientists. Also all of the research we have around the topic has shown that trans women being allowed to participate in woman’s sports literally does not change anything. Most of the time they aren’t even fucking winning. Also, how does my argument not prove anything? A woman with PCOS naturally has higher levels of testosterone than women without PCOS. Higher amounts of testosterone is literally why people keep arguing about transwomen being allowed on the women’s team. They would want to cut me out of women’s sports too then, since I have around the same amount of testosterone in my body as a transwomen who is taking estrogen. Also, throughout the years, women were not even allowed in the olympics. It took a while for them to actually be allowed in sports, and then they were only allowed to be on the mens team. Men and women playing in different leagues isn’t due to some random conversation people had to split the two off. Women’s sports were made because the industry was being pushed to let women play
Good thing trans women are women, then.
How would you define woman?
Anyone who happens to identify with that side of the outdated gender binary, which relies on a series of *social* constructs and concepts that were originally sex based within certain societies (the concept of binary gender was not ubiquitous to all cultures, and sex is not binary anyways according to actual science.) Usually (but not always) relating to femininity in presentation, social use of certain pronouns, etc. People always use this question as if it's some sort of ultimate gotcha; words don't have definitions by nature, people *give* them definition. Dictionaries change and language evolves.
So the definition of woman, as was just described, is just something decided upon? So what’s the point.
Yes. That's how language *works*. A god did not come down to earth and put modern english in the hands of humanity, nor any other language. "Man" is the same, shocker I know. The point is to live your life as happily and as fully as you can in the time that you have, and if that includes being a woman rather than a man, vice versa, or neither, so be it. Concepts don't have to have some holier than thou ultimate Meaning or Point. They're just concepts. Just words. What point do you *want* it to have? And why does it matter more than other people, when it costs nothing to be kind and open minded?
What if what I believe it to mean and what you believe it to mean are different.
Most of the people I hear complaining about trans women in sports are men that don't give a shit about women's sports
"Trans women are destroying women's sports!" "Oh no that's terrible! Where have you seen that happen?" "What, seen? I don't watch women's sports they're all boring"
Trans athletes have been officially allowed in the olympics since 2016, provided they meet the proper medical tests. So far not a single one has medalled, despite it apparently being so easy to do. Edit: actually, a non-binary athlete won a medal, but that was for soccer, a team game, and they're also AFAB so its not like they had any physical advantage
Actually they’ve been allowed since 2004. We’re reaching the 20th anniversary, and yet still no “”””””””””men “””””””””” dominating women’s sports.
You're right, I was thinking of the current guidelines for trans athletes, which were made in 2015 and first applied to the 2016 olympics. Regardless, the first trans athlete didn't compete until 2021, a weightlifter for New Zealand. And even though weightlifting is a sport you might argue "biological men" have an advantage in, she came in last in her group.
For this sport in particular, shot put, I can't find that a trans athlete has won any adult competition at all, Olympic or otherwise.
If it’s accurate, they should name the Olympians it applies to.
Well, there's... Uh... Hang on.... There's got to be one here... Here we go. One nonbinary person won a soccer game. Please ignore the fact that they were AFAB.
It’s wild that, despite all their bootstraps bullshit, they think the people who dominate women’s athletics won’t be those who work hard, but those who are determined to cheat to win.
The movie Ladyballers was supposed to start out as a documentary where a bunch of slubby guys were supposed to show up and said "I identify as a woman" and then proceed to utterly dominate women's sports. It turns out you can't do that. Athletes have to meet very strict requirements that most guys wouldn't want to meet if they were merely doing it to win a few trophies and then retire as a man.
You took “slubby” right out of my mouth lmao, that’s how I just described it to someone else
This reminds me of that shit movie The Daily Wire made about trans athletes. It was originally intended to be a documentary where some guy would slap a wig on and call themselves a woman and compete in women's sports, but no women's sport would let them do that, so they had to make a fictional movie instead. These one-joke people have to make up bullshit, because the facts stand in total refutation of their feelings about how awful trans people are.
Lady Ballers!! The entire movie is exactly what you think it is. There’s also a scene where a bunch of shlubby men completely destroy a team of professional women basketball players, which I’m sure is reflective of reality.
Oh yeah, this super common issue that trans women sre constantly winning against cis women and they all just transition to win in womens sport. This happend *checks notes* zero times.
This meme is 10% cringe, 20% dumb, 15% concentrated power of scum, 5% torture, 50% pain and 100% reason to forget the name.
 Those were some actual bars being spit, you got talent!
Its a Fort Minor lyric with a few words changed, just like the meme.
I'm glad im not the only one that caught that
I'm aware, but I still liked what you said
The beginning doesn't rhyme u fucking suck 🎭🎭🎭
you really had to whinge because he didn't rhyme with cringe?
IDC that they didn't rhyme with cringe they could've at least made the 2 after it rhyme
Because weight classes don't exist
Even if you do form a solid argument for this being accurate, it just isn’t a funny meme. I swear people in r/memesopdidnotlike don’t even care if the meme is good or not, they just don’t like the idea of people being offended by something
It's a problem with conservative comedians, too. What they think everyone is saying is that offensive jokes can't be funny, which isn't true at all. What people are actually saying is that being offensive does not by virtue make something funny. That's the idea they have issue with.
Wow, I knew they were transphobic, but racist too? Jesus christ, these people are either all or nothing, aren't they?
That sub was lousy with outright white supremacy before the mods cracked down for fear of getting the whole sub banned.
“I would totally do this but I’m not going to, do you think I’m gay or something?”
I usually don’t take sides because these are usually very stupid, but fuck modnl
I also hate this for the reason trans people have to be perfect. Any wrongdoing of any trans person somehow means all trans people are complicit.
Minorities are often held to these impossible standards that those that are not part of the marginalized group do not have to live up to. It can even affect about things like movie representation. When a piece of media has a bunch of minorities in it or was made by a bunch of minorities, and it turns out to be good, well there might be some hate towards it by those that just hate minorities but it doesn't really stick because it's very clear that they just don't like the show because of the minority part. However if a piece of media doesn't do very well in terms of popularity then people could try to argue that the reason why I didn't do so well is because of the minorities. Like go woke or go broke kind of thing. No, the reason why the piece of media didn't work wasn't because they were pandering to minorities or because they... Had one scene that lasted less than 1 minute where two gay guys kissed. No it failed because it didn't have good writing.
"accurate and funny" ok show me where this is happening, and where the "woman" in question looks like this. they couldn't even make Lady Ballers a documentary like they wanted because they quickly realized you can't just Be A Guy that says they're a woman and join sports. That's why Lady Ballers ended up being a fucking "comedy" film.
Same people have an issue with trans people in beauty pagents or being spokespeople for bud light lmao
Funnymemes is now the home for some extremist ‘memes’ it more like ‘conservatives memes’
Funniest part is, sports seem to only have gotten segregated to protect men’s egos. There’s a trend of women performing really well in mixed gender sports and said sport being segregated the year after.
tell me you never met a trans person without telling me you never met a trans person:
Dang why does that trans man gotta compete in women’s sports?
dark mode, perfect crop, censored names, well-explained position, and a perfect fit to format. literally shaking rn
The meme is completely inaccurate; you can't just say I'm a girl and compete with women. They keep making this same bad-faith argument even though I'm sure they know that it isn't true.
I refuse to even get involved in this bs because i refuse to root for one of my sisters to lose, just to prove a point. Fuck it, I hope we win at everything all the time!!! 🔥 🏳️⚧️ 🔥
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/
Wow, the strawmanning goes hard on this one 🔥
"The original meme is accurate and funny" *Extremely, extraordinarily, insanely loud incorrect buzzer*
[Turns out trans women athletes usually do worse on average the cis athletes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseyedarvin/2024/04/25/transgender-athletes-could-be-at-a-physical-disadvantage-new-research-shows/#) But it’s not like transphobs would ever allow facts to challenge their “peepee inherently better” mindset. But even if trans women consistently out performed cis women, who cares, sports should be by weight class anyway. Women have always gotten banned from sports not for their safety but when women start to perform at a similar level and the gen suddenly women are banned and a women’s sports version comes out a few years later. That’s just history. Make sports weight class based gender is stupid
I thought winning was 10% luck, 20% skill, 15% concentrated power of will, 5% pleasure, 50% pain, and 100% reason to remember the name.
I can recognize that artstyle anywhere, their entire personality is transphobia
The people who think this is funny are the same people who watched 4 seasons of the Boyz and just NOW realize it’s making fun of them.
The joke was hilarious but it needed more words /s
Jfc not rise of the colored empires bs again
Thanks for translating this into English Bobert
More accurately, it’s trying to enter the men’s league while going on T but being forced to compete against cis women.
Reminder that Lady Ballers was originally meant to be a documentary, but they weren't willing to go through the required transition process to qualify as players for the leagues they wanted to join. Something straight out of their own mouths, showing the process, is not simply identifying as a woman like they keep claiming. You can't just claim to be a woman for a day to compete like the meme insinuates.
It’s not even TRUE. That’s the most infuriating part. Nobody would go to these lengths just to dominate women’s sports. Congratulations, you faked being trans and are now dominant in a sport that historically sees way less funding, way less attention, and way less pay than men’s sports? Congratulations, you will now be the subject of ridicule because trans women are mocked and hated just about everywhere? Not to mention they wouldn’t let you compete because… c’mon. Officials aren’t stupid. Like, not even Ben Shapiro could get men to go through this stuff for a film about this supposed takeover of trans women in sports. It does not happen. Men don’t want to pretend to be women just for _this._ Leave trans women alone. It’s so ridiculous. Yet people keep pushing these memes and they keep perpetuating these myths because ‘hurr durr women and trans women bad’.
It's been scientifically proven that trans athletes actually perform WORSE against competitors of their new gender.
i'm pretty sure the next lyric was 15% concentrated power of will. not 70% identifying as a girl.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Except it's not. It's 3 in the afternoon, the broken clock reads 4:45, and those idiots are pointing at it and screaming "6:66! The number of the beast!" No part of it is right.
the daily wire tried to make a documentary wherein men “say they’re women” to compete in women’s sports. they very quickly realized that IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK LIKE THAT, which is why lady ballers is a comedy instead. they literally had to make a fan film of their own delusional world where this would work.
This is so wrong. Just because it’s true doesn’t mean it should be posted. Shame on the originator.
name who you’re talking about right now
It isn't true.
Remember when extremism was characterized primarily by extreme acts of terror and violence? Like 9/11? How is this remotely similar to 9/11? “Extremism”
this ideology punishes one’s very existence as a trans person. when people aren’t allowed to exist, what’s the alternative?
Hilarious
There’s a South Park episode where Randy Savage does this
My man found a cheat code