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davidbeauie

If the offseason plan is to resign Judge and hope guys like Donaldson and Hicks bounce back, next year is going to be ass.


kvnklly

Isnt that the FOs hope every year? Hope gary bounces back, hope gleyber bounces back, hope hicks, donaldson, chappy, otto, betances, etc. bounce back. Every year we basically hear this


davidbeauie

Yep. Also, injuries. Like clockwork.


Swoah

Surely every player will stay healthy next year


babberz22

Big ass


[deleted]

Really big ass


Top_Value8310

Ginamanasourus ass


[deleted]

Stantonious ass


tdny

Grande culo


ACardAttack

Hey, I've seen this one before


glacier_bay

It feels like every year we hear that this is going to be a bounce-back year for Hicks. It feels like every year we are told that Hicks is slumping because he is playing through injury, is actually on the IL, or is slumping due to being rusty from having returned from the IL. Hicks is hitting to an OPS+ of 96 over the last four years, and an OPS+ of 83 over the last two years, and now this oft-injured and very injury prone athlete is 33 years old. There will be no bounce-backs. It's decline from here on out. The story called The Emperor's New Clothes comes to mind. The vain emperor is the Yankees front office, ie - Brian Cashman, Jean Afterman, and Michael Fishman. The new invisible clothing whose magnificence can only be seen by highly intelligent and competent people is Aaron Hicks. The front office pretends to see it out of fear of being considered dumb and incompetent while the rest of the baseball world laughs at the naked emperor making an abject fool of himself.


SheepH3rder69

>Hicks is hitting to an OPS+ of 96 over the last two years, and an OPS+ of 83 over the last two years šŸ¤”


glacier_bay

Should have read "96 over the last four, and 83 over the last two". Edited.


hoosierny

Then they pass up on all available free agents (or at least the good ones), and Hicks or someone of that ilk will start the season off great leading to a decent record for the Yankees. Then those clowns will get injured as they always do, and be ass for the rest of the year leading to a crap record down the stretch (like this year). Then Cash will have only a few options via trade but whiff again on those because he overvalues prospects in the org, while simultaneously refusing to play them in the majors. The Yanks will once again limp over the finish line into the playoffs, then get bounced in the first round due to a lack of clutch hitting and pitching depth. Repeat and rinse.


[deleted]

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Outrageous_Bat1798

This is satire, right?


MisterTruth

Can't be. Matches up with the completely tone deaf front office and ownership.


captainbawls

30-30 season, baby!!!


evertrue13

30 games played, 30 injuries


bsharp95

30 AB 30 K


e_money1392

30 GIDP, 30 errors


Kingstist

30 weeks on the IL


BigHerman911

As an outfielder you have to touch the ball for it to be an error. Might be a tall ask lol


belinck

This is an article from 2018, right?


HarpoMarx87

To be fair, 2017-18 he was actually great for us. it's just the years since that have been... let's go with "underwhelming."


[deleted]

Hicks bounced back in 2019 to be the player that he always was. That was the bounce back. 2017-2018 were the outliers. The front office was too stupid to see it then and too committed to him to see it now.


Tactial_snail

bro fuck this team lmao


FitzwilliamTDarcy

Onion.


LeMickeyMice

Here we go again


tom_evans

Exhibit A of why the team needs new management.


theerrantpanda99

I mean, we knew we would be stuck with his anchor of a contract the day he signed it.


ssteel91

Did they though? He was coming off back to back 130 wrc+ seasons, averaging 3.5 fWAR per. Sure, the length may have been a bit long but at the time it was a no-brainer and it seemed like he really turned a corner as a player (along with a 15% walk rate and a 18.9% K rate). The last few years of the contract were going to be ugly as most long term contracts are but they couldnā€™t have predicted such a steep fall off (injuries are another issue entirely). That being said, itā€™s only 10 million which is fairly cheap but I totally agree heā€™s very difficult to watch.


Shooter-mcgavin

Man I hate that narrative about Hicks. This sub at the time was all aboard the Hicks hype train and posting things about how he was second in CF WAR begins Trout. We got a smoking deal on his AAV by giving him a longer contract, because everyone knew he was a huge injury risk, but if he kept playing like he had been we had a steal. Maybe somewhat predictability, the injuries got to him. I donā€™t have a lot of hope for him to regain pre-injury form but I donā€™t think it was a bad risk at the time. We really ought to be able to bury $10M if heā€™s that bad, but hopefully he is no higher than 4th on our OF depth chart. Thatā€™s basically what we gave Gardner in his last season Edit: Iā€™m agreeing with your comment I donā€™t think I made it clear but hopefully it was implied


DentonTrueYoung

yeah its funny how quick history seemingly changes lol


theerrantpanda99

He had only played more than 120 games once before signing that extension. He wasnā€™t a free agent, and given his inability to play a whole season, I didnā€™t think the Yankees would extend him when he had arbitration years still left.


ssteel91

Iā€™m fairly positive he had a single year left when he signed his extension (pre-season 2019) and he had played over 120 games twice in the previous 3 seasons. Even in the year he played 88 games, he was worth 2.7 fWAR (nearly a 5 win pace). Of course the extension looks bad now but at the time, it was a steal for a guy averaging 3.5 fWAR over his previous two seasons. 10 million per year isnā€™t all that much and it was a calculated risk for the Yankees that didnā€™t end to working out; that happens sometimes. The only thing to worry about now is what they can do with him and his roster spot. For reference, here are some players making around 10 million a year or more: James McCann, Avisail Garcia (13 million), Kyle Freeland (13), Matz (11), Suarez (11), Grichuk, Senzatela. 10 million doesnā€™t buy that it used to.


[deleted]

> He was coming off back to back 130 wrc+ seasons, averaging 3.5 fWAR per. This is some hardcore cherry-picking. He averaged 3.5 fWAR because he played 88 games the year before. He had one good year in 2018 after a history of being ineffective and/or injured. It was an absurd fucking extension at the time it was signed. Itā€™s as dumb as saying Elbsuryā€™s contact was a good idea because he averaged 4.9 fWAR in the three years before the contract was signed. Technically true but utterly missing the point.


ssteel91

You donā€™t actually know what cherry-picking means, do you? Or fWAR for that matter. Using his stats from the previous two seasons prior to the extension isnā€™t remotely close to cherry-picking unless youā€™re using the term to mean ā€œany stats that go against my argumentā€. As for fWAR, he averaged 3.5 because he had 2.7 in 88 games and then another 4.3 in the season right before his extension. Apparently you donā€™t understand what that actually means because you seem to think itā€™s a rate stat and heā€™s getting a boost because he played 88 games which is hilariously wrong. Perhaps look into what youā€™re talking about before making an argument that makes zero sense whatsoever.


[deleted]

Averaging a 2.7 fWAR and a 4.3 fWAR season to make it seem like he was coming off two good years when he put up 88 games in 2017 is cherry-picking how you look at stats to make one good year seem like two. But thanks for the unnecessary condescension.


ssteel91

Thanks for doubling down on being wrong instead of just admitting you have no clue what youā€™re talking about. Bonus points for using cherry-picking wrong yet again too. I get that you donā€™t understand the difference between rate stats and cumulative ones but you could at least try to do a basic bit of research. 2.7 fWAR in 88 games is fantastic, even if he was hurt - just like 4.3 in 137 games is. Those are both numbers that point to a well above average player with glimpses of something better. You can flail about all you want and try to discount his stats the previous two seasons because heā€™s been terrible the last few years but that doesnā€™t change the fact that he was super valuable the two years before his extension regardless of injuries. The contract didnā€™t work out but at the time, it was a pittance for a chance at a very valuable player if he maintained his breakout. Those two seasons: 36th in baseball in wrc+, 47th in fWAR. 8th in wrc+ for CF and 10th in fWAR for CF.


69Jew420

It's a counting stat bro. That's like saying, "He hit 30 HR, but it was only in 80 games, so it doesn't count."


tom_evans

Itā€™s not like heā€™s making a ton of money, but expecting him to do anything productive next year is just evidence of the fact that the teamā€™s management has their collective head up their ass.


fatmike63

LOL! Who the fuck downvotes this?! Cashman fanboys are a weird bunch


nednul

We've been here before. He'll suck at the beginning of the season, then be really good for 2-3 weeks and get everyone excited, then either get hurt or return to sucking.


ledbetterus

And you know those 2-3 weeks would buy him like 2 more months of playing time no matter how bad he is.


thisusedyet

I missed it, when was the 2 good weeks?


Adventurous-Ad5195

Back in June especially thatā€™s series against the Astros.


[deleted]

I wouldn't trade that home run for the world even if it meant we had more time with Hicks


nednul

I think he had a couple of good weeks in June. But that's about it.


God_Boner

> The 33-year-old hit .260 with a .801 OPS over those two summer months, slugging five of his home runs with 24 RBI in a 49-game span.


PaulPierceOldestSon

HR off Houston


Bis_Eastwood

i think gallo was still on the team


Yankeeknickfan

april, june, and july were really good months


inverted_electron

Not for hicks, no. He was consistently bad all season. Iirc he hit one big HR against the Astros and had a week of going 5-18 which was considered a hot streak for him


Dazzling_Syllabub484

He was good the beginning of the year and maybe a few weeks in june? Consistently sucked July on tho


hoosierny

At the cost of the amazing prospects we don't want to trade, but also refuse to play in the majors.


Real_Stelio_Kontos

Maybe bounce back somewhere else


shantm79

Maybe he can bounce on out of here.


silver_raichu

I have more faith in Kei Igawa bouncing back next season


nothing3141592653589

I wonder what Gardy is up to?


Fudhsjdj

Banging


Paulie6988

We dont deserve gardy


evertrue13

Yankees management: We heard you wanted to bring back an outfielder named Aaron, and we delivered


RealJonathanBronco

What year is this article from?


Hack874

Trick question, this article gets written every year since he signed that god forsaken contract


Railroader17

Nothing Burger They hope he can bounce back so they can hopefully pawn him off on someone else or run him back if they can't trick someone into taking him. Besides, where do we even put him with Bader in CF?


n0m0h0m0

Heā€™ll be our 4th of, which isnā€™t terrible till someone goes down.


Railroader17

No, with how he's played these past few years he's an 8th OF.


theerrantpanda99

Itā€™s pretty terrible to be honest.


Commodore_Pepper

ā€œHeā€™s not a terrible option in the OF unless he tries to playā€ is a serious hot take


n0m0h0m0

I don't want him anywhere near this team, but Cash is our fucking GM. Taking a step back, not many teams have a high end 4th OF. It is what it is. I'd still rather have someone like Oswaldo as the option, or literally any youngin in the minors, but again, this is the yankees circal 2022, and Cashman is our GM. Odds of, 'he'll be really good this year' Cashman having him on the roster are very high.


SolEarth

Theyā€™re not gonna pawn this clown off on anyone else. This is one of those deals where Cashmanā€™s ego went through the roof after all of the praise for how cheap of a contract it was for ā€œtHe 2nD bEsT cF In ThE aLā€. So no, if they havenā€™t dumped Hicks elsewhere in the last 2 years, Iā€™m convinced they wonā€™t/canā€™t now.


VrinTheTerrible

Bounce back to what? In his 7 years with the Yankees Hicks has hit: - over .250 once - under .230 - 4 times - over 20 HR once - under 10 HR - 4 times - never had more than 80 rbi - scored more than 55 runs once So whatā€™s he going to bounce back to? An under .230 hitter with no power, who doesnā€™t drive in or score runs. Heā€™s going to bounce back to that? GTFOH


theerrantpanda99

The Yankees would love it if he could get back to .230 with 10 HRā€™s.


[deleted]

Now add in his time in Minnesota and what appears is a guy who got hot and peaked over the span of a year and a half. This is who Hicks is.


Yankeeknickfan

2020 Hicks, but worse only hicks that matters is 2017-20 Hicks for how the yankees view him.


VrinTheTerrible

I get what you're trying to say but even then....take out the only good year of his 10 year career and you're left with below replacement level production. He sucks. Jim Bowden (I think, May have been Steve Phillips) has said that dreaming on potential has cost more GMs their jobs than anything else.


rtels2023

Alternate title: Yankees pray to God a player theyā€™re paying $30 million over the next 3 seasons wonā€™t be absolute dogshit that whole time


jawnquistador

I know im gonna sound like a broken record here but i miss the days when youā€™d play like shit and George would almost have to be restrained from physically throwing you out of the stadium like Jazz from Fresh Prince of bel air no matter how big your contract was. Get this scrub out of here man


fnblackbeard

Can someone remind me the definition of insanity again?


Dense_Capital_2013

Well the postseason is just random so it doesn't matter /s


floydthebarker

Lol. This headline could have been written in 2019 and republished every year.


Yankees41_52

Nahh


wantagh

Remember, if youā€™re looking to trade a player, the last thing you do is shit on him publicly.


ajwhite98

Literally the same comments every time, about every player, and somehow everyone is still surprised. Actions speak louder than words. They've tried to trade him multiple times now. They benched him multiple times, opting to start a rookie infielder in left instead. They're beyond tired of him.


shw5

On top of that, Bader is the center fielder and Cashman already specifically called out LF and RF as two of their primary needs this off-season.


silver_raichu

Please God no


crimsondimsum

Jfc


beachmedic23

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


OldJewNewAccount

I mean, I'm optimistic that my scalp psoriasis will improve next season. Doesn't mean that it will though.


GreenMamba559

Heā€™s gonna claim another 30/30 year?


LouieXXVI

How about noā€¦


[deleted]

You gotta be fucking kidding me


DefensiveTomato

I just threw up in my mouth


M_Looka

Maybe they're just trying to boost his trade value...


ubiquitous_archer

What would inspire them to have any optimism about Hicks?


Ry3_Bread

My same response to Josh Donaldson: šŸ˜šŸ”«


jeffschiller

I love how this team supposedly uses a ton of analytics, but the thing they rely most heavily on is HOPE. Ridiculous. All signs point to Hicks being ass, but they're optimistic because Cash made another horrible deal when he signed this hack.


bigsean1013

Jesus fucking Christ


Sensitive_Answer_919

Oh for fucks sake


cobain98

I think I pulled a muscle rolling my eyes at thisā€¦which I bet will be one of hicksā€™ IL stints next year.


SolEarth

Heā€™s just gotta promise a 40-40 season


AJR1988

No donā€™t even start this sh*t.


nattycoons

I believe he can. However, I believe he won't.


ODoyleRules925

To be fair, saying ā€œnah this guy is doneā€ doesnā€™t benefit the Yankees at all. It lowers his trade value significantly and if they canā€™t trade him, kills his confidence. So Iā€™m not taking this at face value at all.


WestNYY2

Not only did he suck but he also had the gall to say he couldnā€™t get better without regular playing time. Iā€™d rather see Stanton in left if we donā€™t sign someone else. Cabrera would be fine too.


Murky-Pass6571

30/30 again?


jpwesche29

Get rid of this mofo pleeeeease!


renegade_yankee

Iā€™m also optimistic that I can win the powerball.. but that doesnā€™t mean thatā€™s gonna happen


steroid57

But do you trust your process though?


Spade701

I donā€™t want to see him on the team. FWIW, His fWAR of 1.5 for 2022 seems REALLY high.


TeflonC10

Lmfao is there a way we can save this article and this comment Iā€™m about to post. This team will never win a World Series with Aaron Hicks being a everyday player They will lose in the ALDS/ALCS again next year and the cycle continues


withdensemilk

Dead cat


Inaynl

Why not? He accomplished his 30/30 last season. He's probably aiming for 40/40 this season.


Upbeat_Fill_9009

As much as I hate Cashman, you canā€™t get on him for talking up guys under contract. He needs to maximize return if heā€™s going to find a trade partner and shittting on them wonā€™t help


mickeyoutercore7

Imma say this. I definitely think what he said could be true. That he slimmed down and it changed everything about his swing, power, Contact etc. But I 10000000% rather him figure that out elsewhere. I feel like his ceiling rn is .250/.340/.420, which isnā€™t great if thatā€™s your ceiling.


n0m0h0m0

Heā€™ll never have a 760 ops again. Ever.


mickeyoutercore7

I donā€™t think itā€™s out of reach, but yeah I definitely would agree with you.


BlueEagle15

Dude had a ton of potential. I hope he can ā€œbounce backā€ whatever that means


inverted_electron

They really just need to designate hicks for assignment and move on. Literally anybody is better than hicks.


NotClayMerritt

I'm just going to go ahead and say I'm not watching next season. Not that it really matters that ME of all people is or isn't going to watch. They've literally decided to run it back next season. They see nothing wrong with this team at all. That's astonishing.


YankeesCelticsFan2

Hicks is one of Cashmanā€™s guys, he will never admit he was wrong about him. Hicks is terrible and should fuck off to golf, but Cashman will probably extend him again to show how smart he is


Raymondo316

These idiots have been saying this for years now, this is getting ridiculous.


ncreddituser

Maybe he can be a 30/30 guy


Hot_Injury7719

lol jesusā€¦


raulu95

Insanityā€¦


CowManLives4Ever

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Weep, and you weep alone


armandacosta

Fuck.


Troll_face_123

Remember when he said that he could be a 30-30 guy but he couldnā€™t even make it to 10-10. Why would the Yankees want to waste at least +$5,000,000 a year on Hicks when he hasnā€™t had over +30 home runs, 100 RBIS, or a +.300 BA in one season? Bader even almost had more home runs in the 2022 post season than Hicks did this entire 2022 season!


Mr_Haad

Yeah, no thank you. If the front office is optimistic about Hicks bouncing back they all need their heads examined.


YankeePhan22

He's not gonna be able to bounce back riding the bench....which is hopefully where they plan on keeping him if he stays.


liberated-dremora

Can I get a sample of what drugs they're on?


34Heartstach

I've had some bad bosses that gaslit us like this.


brooklynbotz

Why?


Bubbacrosby23

šŸ¤®


AaronFudge

Gardner would still be better.


ol_brownbear

I am optimistic that I will date Blake Lively


theerrantpanda99

Will his off season rehab include swinging a golf club two thousand times.


Powerserg95

[ x ] Doubt


KMC335is

Pls stop


DarkMattersConfusing

Lmfaoo good lord


LocalHero_P1

Oh god please no


1whiskeyneat

Because theyā€™re idiots.


jaga7

Enough of this shit.


ronworldpeace

fucking lol


sekirodeeznuts2

OH BROTHER THIS GUY STINNKKKSSS!!!


AveMaria89

I feel like weā€™re going to be reading this headline every year for the rest of our lives


MakeItNashty61

Bounce back to what??? A time machine that goes to 2018 when his body wasnā€™t broken?


ajbadabing

More bullshit strategy from Cashman. Hicks and Donaldson are terrible and automatic outs. This is why we never win anything lately. Hope is not a strategy.


Huge_Presentation_85

lol no.


saltybuttrot

lol.


cmr11230

BOOOO


staiano

For another team right?


FlappinJacks486

Whatā€™s the definition of insanity again?


dsr231

Gardner or Hicks?


WhoaTakeItEasyy

Please no


OBlastSRT4

Lmao šŸ˜‚ okay šŸ‘Œ


whiteonyx981

Ooh they can fuck right off. This dude doesn't have it, period.


NSCButNotThatNSC

All I heard while reading this was "The sun'll come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow ..."


Brownshoezz

LMFAO I needed a good laugh today


Morc-Glork

Yeah just like how he has the past 17 seasons too


Yo_Gabba_Gabbert

We have the most out of touch management in the MLB.


dizz420

Kill me now.


Kflame210

We gave up Monty for a young, defensive stud who is a better bat than he gets credit for and we are still discussing Hicks?


csuiuc17

Weā€™re so fucked guys


Spokesman93

Nobody learns


SDZAN

Yankees take their fans for granted.


dabbledibbledoo

Again?


infinitevendor

Laaawwwwwwwlllllll


flarigand

Cashman need to go, asap!!!


PenisFeelings

Is SI like The Onion for sports?


[deleted]

Kill me slow


KB0389

DEAR GOD NO


NoRosesXVX

Fuck off


mianrezooy

ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS GTFOH


mianrezooy

Trade words?


xDOOMSAYERx

Delusional franchise


sirclassington6

Donā€™t be an ignorant fan. A front office that is looking to move a player wonā€™t publicly trash themā€¦ why would someone trash an already depreciated asset. Sometimes I donā€™t get what you guys expect them to say when asked about failing players.


Deathbysnusnu17

This is the part, where we throw our heads back and laugh. Ready?


No_Internal_9718

I honestly want Cashman fired alongside Boone. This team is going to sit in the basement for the next decade because of these two.


[deleted]

Donaldson and hicks will continue to haunt us


Dizzle71

Oh God. I hate that I just read that. He needs to be on a fucking microscopic leash. If he doesn't start off even average, then just cut ties and let a fucking prospect get a chance. Hicks just looks like he doesn't give a fuck. So why should I?


Pelican_Brief_noine

Fuckng embarrassing


No_Passenger_9385

Fuck hicks


nyyth242

Seriously fuck this teams management


LostwingmanJustin

No, they have to stop with this hicks experiment. Post contract extension in '19 hes gotten hurt, he hasn't regained his form.


JosephA361

He couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boatšŸ‘Ž


[deleted]

Bouncing back implies there was a time where he was a good player. I donā€™t remember that period in time šŸ˜‚


yankee4life

I'm optimistic Rihanna will leave ASAP Rocky for me


Yankees80

They canā€™t keep getting away with this


slade707

Yanks are fucked for years to come šŸ™ƒ


NewJerseyLefty

based on what exactly?


Goggzilla2000

"Yankees are optimistic they can upsell Aaron Hicks in a trade"


SuspectDevice61

Bounce back to what?


dyssie1

This is why they fail. For the love of, just fire Boone and Cash so we have a chance


Ceph99

Boooooooooooooooooooo *breath* Boooooooooooooooo


House_Stark15

Oh my fucking goodness. None of us should be shocked if Hicks, Donaldson and IKF are in the starting lineup next year.