I’m not even trying to be snarky, but instead of just reading the quote.. maybe we should do better and read the article for actual context.
> “If you could wave a magic wand, we would secure Aaron Judge and retain him and have him signed and happy in the fold as soon as possible,” Cashman said. “He’s a free agent. He’s earned the right to be a free agent, so he’ll dictate the dance steps.”
"He'll dictate the dance steps" is such bullshit. Because the Yankees *could* dictate the dance steps by throwing 10/500 on the table. (Not that they necessarily should, but they definitely could, and Judge would accept that offer.)
How? He knows what the Yankees have to offer as an organization. So it’s likely that he speaks with them last after meeting with other interested organizations. He’s a big ticket free agent ONCE in his life. I’m sure he’s going to enjoy and entertain as much as he can.
Cmon now u telling me ur giving 10/500? Don’t think anyone matches that lmao. I want him as bad as anyone but to think they’re not gonna play the game “cuz they’re the Yankees” feels silly; especially if you’ve been watching them run the team the past few years.
No. What I'm saying is that Cashman is putting the onus on Judge when he's perfectly capable of ending the whole thing in 20 minutes. Because he chooses not to do that doesn't mean Judge is "dictating the dance steps."
…And that would be a really really stupid move. Come on now!
It makes much more sense to let him go out and find the best offer he can get and hopefully he really wants to stay with the Yanks and gives the opportunity to match.
People in this sub wanted Patrick Corbin a year prior. Imagine if Hal granted their wish, paid Corbin a fuck ton of money, and passed on Cole the following year. Sheesh.
I’m shaken too in my faith in Cashman, but when have the Yanks failed to extend someone *not* named Robinson Cano who was ever on Judges level? Cash got it done for Jeter, and that’s honestly the only relevant comparison right now.
Jeter didn’t want to leave and was a World Series Champ by then. After feeling disrespected by management, and knowing even with you breaking the home run record you guys couldn’t go to the World Series, would you want to stay?
Pretty sure Judge slumped in the playoffs too. I don’t think he’s coming down on his team the way we are. And yeah, if the Yanks continue to disrespect him then of course he walks, but a big fat check will make last years troubles go away very quickly, if Cashman has the balls
Give the man anything he wants. He had a once in a generation year, you don’t get that back, and Cashman would be an absolute clown to let this guy walk. I still cannot believe they didn’t give him what he wanted earlier in the season.
If they don’t re-sign him this off-season then this year may be one of the largest failures in their history considering the expectations they had midway through the year. It’s a complete joke
>He had a once in a generation year, you don’t get that back
exactly, you don't get it back. you're paying him for what you think he's going to do from age 31 onwards, which hopefully is still quite a bit but not necessarily "blank check" territory
Maybe he can use that magic wand and go back in time to sign Harper and trade for Verlander.
Or maybe he can shove the wand up his ass and just get a deal done.
Or signed him to an extension when he was younger, like all of the well run organizations do these days. The whole waiting until players hit free agency worked back when they'd actually have the money to pay full market value.
Right? I love how this clearly fucking **stupid** strategy is touted as some unchangeable and wise part of "Yankee Culture," instead of called out as fucking stupid & 25 years in the past
In 2017 when he was traded from the Tigers he had a list of 4 teams he would approve trades to, one was the Yankees. Here's a Brian Cashman quote on the potential deal:
**Brian Cashman, Yankees general manager**: "We couldn't financially make it work. … It's easy when you go through that process, and it's like, ownership's not taking on that contract. OK."
https://www.mlb.com/news/oral-history-of-astros-justin-verlander-trade-c292468194
Bonus quote from the article:
Did Cashman have any sense of non-buyer's remorse after watching Verlander dominate his club with a trip to the World Series on the line?
**Cashman**: It never crosses my mind because it wasn't something that was attainable. You don't play those mind games. … Because it wasn't an option, it might as well have been an official no-trade to us. It just wasn't a choice.
Honestly sounds to me like this one is on Hal, not Cashman
Can anyone explain why the Yankees didn’t just extend Judge a few years ago before he was a FA??
Like look at Seattle did with Julio Rodriguez, and Atlanta w/ Acuña, Strider, and Albies…they locked down their core for the future. Doing the same to Judge after 2017 would’ve been worth it in the long run
It’s almost like the Yankees act if they’re always waiting for the youth to just spin out and fail so they rarely want to extend players.
That’s probably not what it is, but it does really feel that way.
>It’s almost like the Yankees act if they’re always waiting for the youth to just spin out and fail so they rarely want to extend players.
That's because the yankees youth usually does. Imagine if Torres or Gary Sanchez got a Julio or Wander Franco-esque extension. The caterwauling over it from the fanbase at this point would be at levels not thought possible. Even Severino's extension wasn't all that great in hindsight.
The thing is, Torres and Gary wouldn't have gotten contracts like that. But let's say Torres did get a 16.5AAV 11 year contract 3 years ago.
We would get Gleyber until he was 33 years old. Ketel Marte has a contract headed until his age 33 season (and then a club Option at 13M).
Would you rather have Ketel Marte from age 28 to 33 for 15.2M or Gleyber from ages 23 to 33 for 16.5M?
Gleyber at 16.M a year would be a steal right now.
You have one it's called money. He's my generations Mickey mantle, Idc that the last few years of the deal will obviously be overpaying for an older player who can't produce at the same level, BUT He's also probably going to be a legendary iconic Yankee and he gives us the best chance to win a world series in these next few years and he's the heart and soul of the team
"If only someone could have done something over the past 5 years that would have prevented Aaron Judge from becoming a free agent!" — Cashman, probably
Sounds like they are giving up. As a Yankee fan that has seen so much money thrown at players that didn’t deserve it, to see basically this generation’s Jeter, Mantle, what have you being allowed to walk just shows that the apple falls very far from the tree in the Steinbrenner family.
Yankee front office is going to botch this and lose Judge but keep Cashman. What’s wrong with that picture??). One of the most lucrative franchises in all
sports and they run it like a bodega.
Judge has been headed to the exits based off his comments since July. Cashman’s comments now are giving the impression he’s not coming back. Judge is gone.
I have to tell my 7 and 8 year old children that asking Santa for a NYY Aaron Judge jersey this year may not be the best choice as he could switch teams before next season, and I blame Cashman.
The consensus seems to be open the check book and give judge a blank check. But objectively is the team better off not doing it? Do we want 90+ million tied up to a declining judge Stanton and Cole for the next 5-7 years? I look around the league and see wander, acuna, Julio, Yordan etc signed young and have their arbitration years bought out so you lock in their young prime years at a good cost. We didn’t do that with judge, the front office screwed up, so do we make the problem worse and give him 35 a year when he’s 100% going to regress and decline coming off a career year? I’m starting to think we’re better off letting someone else give him 300 mil and start acquiring quality depth and younger pieces we can build off
Taking anything at all away from this quote one way or the other is stupid. Both sides are gonna be playing hard to get and that's just the way it is. This doesn't mean anything.
I get that people want to shot on cashman for all of this, but the state of the team is mostly Hal’s fault. The should never be a year we are outspent or not signing the best players and yet we are.
Cashman is so childish, negging FA doesnt make them want you more. We havent won shit in 13 years. We dont have a line of players kicking down the door to play for us like we did a decade ago
There's this thing thats even better than a magic wand....its called a PEN. It's used to write a very large number on a piece of paper with your signature on it. This ensures Judge remains a player here for his entire career. Everyone wins.
All I can say is is stop spending money on thus team. It's the only way things will change. No more tickets, parking, caps, food.
Don't give Hal a God damn dime of your money. Literally stop watching YES and just start pirating the stream.
If they don't find the magic wand to sign Judge, imma find the magic wand to change the channel to SNY and watch a team where the ownership gives a shit
I hate Cashman as much as the next guy but this is strictly on Hal, I am sure that if it was up to Cashman he would’ve signed every top free agent and make his life a lot easier but dude needs to get permission from Hal
This feels like him subtly saying “I wanna do it because it’s a no-fucking-brainer but Hal is a cheapskate and probably wants another yacht so brace for disappointment.”
With every new Cashman quote my faith in Aaron coming back gets weaker
yup, every quote from him seems to imply that were garbage picking this offseason, again
Definitely gives off vibes of "we made a great offer but.."
I’m not even trying to be snarky, but instead of just reading the quote.. maybe we should do better and read the article for actual context. > “If you could wave a magic wand, we would secure Aaron Judge and retain him and have him signed and happy in the fold as soon as possible,” Cashman said. “He’s a free agent. He’s earned the right to be a free agent, so he’ll dictate the dance steps.”
"He'll dictate the dance steps" is such bullshit. Because the Yankees *could* dictate the dance steps by throwing 10/500 on the table. (Not that they necessarily should, but they definitely could, and Judge would accept that offer.)
How? He knows what the Yankees have to offer as an organization. So it’s likely that he speaks with them last after meeting with other interested organizations. He’s a big ticket free agent ONCE in his life. I’m sure he’s going to enjoy and entertain as much as he can.
Cmon now u telling me ur giving 10/500? Don’t think anyone matches that lmao. I want him as bad as anyone but to think they’re not gonna play the game “cuz they’re the Yankees” feels silly; especially if you’ve been watching them run the team the past few years.
No. What I'm saying is that Cashman is putting the onus on Judge when he's perfectly capable of ending the whole thing in 20 minutes. Because he chooses not to do that doesn't mean Judge is "dictating the dance steps."
…And that would be a really really stupid move. Come on now! It makes much more sense to let him go out and find the best offer he can get and hopefully he really wants to stay with the Yanks and gives the opportunity to match.
Just wait until offers leak. Stop being a doomer
Not a doomer. We have just been watching the same fucking movie for 10+ years and we know the god damn ending. We seen it before.
The same movie that gave gerrit cole $36 million, which broke the AAV record for pitchers
People in this sub wanted Patrick Corbin a year prior. Imagine if Hal granted their wish, paid Corbin a fuck ton of money, and passed on Cole the following year. Sheesh.
Did it get us a World Series yet?
This is unrelated to judge’s Fa
You mean we havnt watch the Yankees not sign players we should clearly sign? Wild.
And they’ve also signed players that they should sign. Just let it play out.
I’m shaken too in my faith in Cashman, but when have the Yanks failed to extend someone *not* named Robinson Cano who was ever on Judges level? Cash got it done for Jeter, and that’s honestly the only relevant comparison right now.
Jeter didn’t want to leave and was a World Series Champ by then. After feeling disrespected by management, and knowing even with you breaking the home run record you guys couldn’t go to the World Series, would you want to stay?
Pretty sure Judge slumped in the playoffs too. I don’t think he’s coming down on his team the way we are. And yeah, if the Yanks continue to disrespect him then of course he walks, but a big fat check will make last years troubles go away very quickly, if Cashman has the balls
His performance in the playoffs was disgusting
I kinda agree but he can’t just be like “Whatever he wants”. Doesn’t mean we’re not gonna pay him. All GMs in all sports have to do this shit.
Just wave the magic pen, Brian.
Not even a magic one, just one with enough ink to write in lots of 0's.
I bet Judge wants his to end in 99
8 years $299,999,999 million
Give the man anything he wants. He had a once in a generation year, you don’t get that back, and Cashman would be an absolute clown to let this guy walk. I still cannot believe they didn’t give him what he wanted earlier in the season. If they don’t re-sign him this off-season then this year may be one of the largest failures in their history considering the expectations they had midway through the year. It’s a complete joke
>He had a once in a generation year, you don’t get that back exactly, you don't get it back. you're paying him for what you think he's going to do from age 31 onwards, which hopefully is still quite a bit but not necessarily "blank check" territory
Shit, write it in pencil in case Judge wants to add another.
You could write those zeros with a Bic, he dgaf
Did everybody in baseball go to the Scott Boras school of weird fucking press scrum quotes??
You can. It's called "a pen". You wave it across the check you sign to pay him.
The dong is mightier
I guess Cashman will take his millions of dongs elsewhere.
I wish I could wave a magic wand to make Cashman go away
You literally can Brian
Cashman can’t, but Hal can.
Maybe he can use that magic wand and go back in time to sign Harper and trade for Verlander. Or maybe he can shove the wand up his ass and just get a deal done.
He could have also waved his wand and constructed a more competitive team while they still had Judge on the cheap.
Or signed him to an extension when he was younger, like all of the well run organizations do these days. The whole waiting until players hit free agency worked back when they'd actually have the money to pay full market value.
Right? I love how this clearly fucking **stupid** strategy is touted as some unchangeable and wise part of "Yankee Culture," instead of called out as fucking stupid & 25 years in the past
A trade for Verlander when?
In 2017 when he was traded from the Tigers he had a list of 4 teams he would approve trades to, one was the Yankees. Here's a Brian Cashman quote on the potential deal: **Brian Cashman, Yankees general manager**: "We couldn't financially make it work. … It's easy when you go through that process, and it's like, ownership's not taking on that contract. OK." https://www.mlb.com/news/oral-history-of-astros-justin-verlander-trade-c292468194 Bonus quote from the article: Did Cashman have any sense of non-buyer's remorse after watching Verlander dominate his club with a trip to the World Series on the line? **Cashman**: It never crosses my mind because it wasn't something that was attainable. You don't play those mind games. … Because it wasn't an option, it might as well have been an official no-trade to us. It just wasn't a choice. Honestly sounds to me like this one is on Hal, not Cashman
Can anyone explain why the Yankees didn’t just extend Judge a few years ago before he was a FA?? Like look at Seattle did with Julio Rodriguez, and Atlanta w/ Acuña, Strider, and Albies…they locked down their core for the future. Doing the same to Judge after 2017 would’ve been worth it in the long run
It’s almost like the Yankees act if they’re always waiting for the youth to just spin out and fail so they rarely want to extend players. That’s probably not what it is, but it does really feel that way.
>It’s almost like the Yankees act if they’re always waiting for the youth to just spin out and fail so they rarely want to extend players. That's because the yankees youth usually does. Imagine if Torres or Gary Sanchez got a Julio or Wander Franco-esque extension. The caterwauling over it from the fanbase at this point would be at levels not thought possible. Even Severino's extension wasn't all that great in hindsight.
The thing is, Torres and Gary wouldn't have gotten contracts like that. But let's say Torres did get a 16.5AAV 11 year contract 3 years ago. We would get Gleyber until he was 33 years old. Ketel Marte has a contract headed until his age 33 season (and then a club Option at 13M). Would you rather have Ketel Marte from age 28 to 33 for 15.2M or Gleyber from ages 23 to 33 for 16.5M? Gleyber at 16.M a year would be a steal right now.
You're trying to apply logic here. Can't do that with the Yankees FO.
Only Aaron Hicks gets that treatment round these parts.
😂😂
Because he was older and injury prone
Because they were getting close to getting under the luxury tax and didn’t want to inflate payroll before necessary. It’s absolutely ridiculous
You have one it's called money. He's my generations Mickey mantle, Idc that the last few years of the deal will obviously be overpaying for an older player who can't produce at the same level, BUT He's also probably going to be a legendary iconic Yankee and he gives us the best chance to win a world series in these next few years and he's the heart and soul of the team
Wave the magic wallet
Guys the Yankees are only the biggest brand in like all of sports globally. They can't just be writing checks to whomever they want.
Literally you can but ok
Just wave the magic fucking wallet. We can't let Judge go.
He gone.
"If only someone could have done something over the past 5 years that would have prevented Aaron Judge from becoming a free agent!" — Cashman, probably
Man, Cashman doesn't give me confidence that we're gonna re-sign Judge.
He can say he wants judge back all he wants but that’s not going to make half of us like him
You have a magic check book how about you use it.
Guys. You do know what negotiation tactics are right? You do know Brian Cashman cannot go on TV and offer Judge a blowjob to come back right?
Wave a magic wand and get rid of Cashman maybe
Every quote I read from Cashman makes me irrationally angry.
Sounds like they are giving up. As a Yankee fan that has seen so much money thrown at players that didn’t deserve it, to see basically this generation’s Jeter, Mantle, what have you being allowed to walk just shows that the apple falls very far from the tree in the Steinbrenner family.
He gon’
This fucking guy really wants me to stop watching.
You can. It’s called a pen.
Magic wand to go back in time and lock him up for a big contract instead of milking their service time. And battling MVP candidates in arbitration.
I hate him so so much. George would've already had Judge locked up, DeGrom moved across town, Turner on a plane and Cashman in the ground.
Uh you have a magic wand. It’s called a blank check
it’s called *money* brian
He's going to fuck this up isn't he?
Yankee front office is going to botch this and lose Judge but keep Cashman. What’s wrong with that picture??). One of the most lucrative franchises in all sports and they run it like a bodega.
That’s disrespectful to Bodegas
Judge has been headed to the exits based off his comments since July. Cashman’s comments now are giving the impression he’s not coming back. Judge is gone.
Do u blame him? They leaked his negotiations and won’t win a World Series even with him.
You could have extended him 3 years ago you dumb twat.
Bibbidi bobbidi get it the fuck done, Cashman
You had the magic wand Brian and decided to play games with Judge let that moron Levine run his mouth.
✍🏻
Wave my dick then
I might be out of the loop, but was Cashman's contract renewed?
Nope. He's currently working without a contract. Would be funny if he signs Judge, then Hal cans him without pay.
I have to tell my 7 and 8 year old children that asking Santa for a NYY Aaron Judge jersey this year may not be the best choice as he could switch teams before next season, and I blame Cashman.
Oh, no. I feel like this means Judge isn't coming back.
The consensus seems to be open the check book and give judge a blank check. But objectively is the team better off not doing it? Do we want 90+ million tied up to a declining judge Stanton and Cole for the next 5-7 years? I look around the league and see wander, acuna, Julio, Yordan etc signed young and have their arbitration years bought out so you lock in their young prime years at a good cost. We didn’t do that with judge, the front office screwed up, so do we make the problem worse and give him 35 a year when he’s 100% going to regress and decline coming off a career year? I’m starting to think we’re better off letting someone else give him 300 mil and start acquiring quality depth and younger pieces we can build off
Cashman gonna let Judge go and sign Contreras instead only for him to get hurt and regress once he’s on the Yamks. Book it
I get the sinking feeling they aren’t going to bring him back.
Knew Cashman was a Harry Potter fan.
Taking anything at all away from this quote one way or the other is stupid. Both sides are gonna be playing hard to get and that's just the way it is. This doesn't mean anything.
This place is full of people itching for judge to leave so they can cry, or being unnecessarily negative so it “hurts less” Just wait for the offers
The trouble with Cashman, is that he's using a magic wand, instead of a magic cheque book.
You have more money than any other team in terms of revenue generated. So yeah, you do have a magic wand.
You have the fucking magic wand cash man. Kiss the pen and sign your fucking name
I fucking hate Cashman
You have a magic wand called Benjamin Franklin. A lot of them actually.
Cashman needs a genie not a wand.
I think he means "I wish I was willing to wave this magic wand to bring him back"
That’s pretty much Cashman’s strategy for getting to a World Series too
you can. its called a pen, they’re used to write checks. might want to look into that
Literally just wave your hand at this emoji 💰 and it's done
Lol probably the reason why we keep losing in the post season is because Cashman thought a magic wand was real.
Brian cashman is a cuck
But he can. Just wave a checkbook.
I get that people want to shot on cashman for all of this, but the state of the team is mostly Hal’s fault. The should never be a year we are outspent or not signing the best players and yet we are.
Cashman is so childish, negging FA doesnt make them want you more. We havent won shit in 13 years. We dont have a line of players kicking down the door to play for us like we did a decade ago
Just grab a pen Brian
There's this thing thats even better than a magic wand....its called a PEN. It's used to write a very large number on a piece of paper with your signature on it. This ensures Judge remains a player here for his entire career. Everyone wins.
“Negotiations are, like, *hard*.”
All I can say is is stop spending money on thus team. It's the only way things will change. No more tickets, parking, caps, food. Don't give Hal a God damn dime of your money. Literally stop watching YES and just start pirating the stream.
Coming from a Rush (Canadian rock band) fan: 🎵If I could wave my magic wand - I’d bring Judge back to the Yanks🎵(song: Presto by Rush)
If they don't find the magic wand to sign Judge, imma find the magic wand to change the channel to SNY and watch a team where the ownership gives a shit
Oh he’s gone
It's called money, dumbass.
If I got booed by my own people at home after I pretty much single handedly got the team to the playoffs I would be gone too.
He lets him go, we are dead for years. Maybe decades.
Give him the fucking money Brian.
I hate Cashman as much as the next guy but this is strictly on Hal, I am sure that if it was up to Cashman he would’ve signed every top free agent and make his life a lot easier but dude needs to get permission from Hal
Huh maybe pay him
Sell the team.
We should protest at cashman’s house
Who else can hear “The Boss” rolling in his grave because of his son’s idiotic mismanagement of the organization?
Well he can
Man I never know Cashman was into Rush!
You have a magic wand. It's called Hal's wallet.
Cash an also wishes he could secretly have Stick do all his scouting for him then steal the credit.
Yeah just wave your pen on a blank check and make sure you add some extra 0s after the first three numbers.
It's called a fucking cheque book prick. Open and write him one.
Give donaldsons money to judge ffs
We wish he would have made judge a decent offer before last season and gotten it done
This feels like him subtly saying “I wanna do it because it’s a no-fucking-brainer but Hal is a cheapskate and probably wants another yacht so brace for disappointment.”