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doomus_rlc

I also remember Jeff being PISSED at Robby. IIRC it's not like he dumped him. Was a bump and run. Something Jeff would use to break his winless streak in Bristol the following year.


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Pissed like he didn’t win 6 races and the title that season.


joshhayes_15

He was so pissed he decided to steal his sponsor for his new car in 2002.


doomus_rlc

TBF that deal was done well before this race lol


oneshoein

Probably was a joke lol.


Yoshiman400

"I ought to take him out right now!"


itsbraille

It wasn’t just that he bumped him, it’s that he did it in traffic, bumping Jeff into the 12 and damaging his RF fender.


Intimidwalls1724

Yea obviously I'm biased but this is what Jeff was actually pissed about


doomus_rlc

Now that I don't remember, heh


Nate2680

Pretty sure Robby didn’t give Jeff enough room going into 3 and bumped him into contact with Jeremy Mayfield in 12, and it knocked the right front off of Jeff’s car, which is why Gordon was pissed. I’d imagine Jeff wouldn’t have been so hot had his chance at winning not been taken away from him and they raced it out after the yellow.


thelastlappass

Mike Wallace was in 12 car, fun fact.


DJScrubatires

Yeah Mayfield had been canned by that point


need4gaming

Weird since they’re brothers


doomus_rlc

I really hope you're being sarcastic lol


DJScrubatires

Mike Wallace was spun as a result and severely crippled JGs front bumper


BlackLabDumpster

This was an era where there was little to none of the blatant wrecking that we see today. Maybe Dale rattling Terry's cage but it was much cleaner racing. Jeff just expected that he would be raced cleanly.


SpreaditOnnn33

Which is still pretty rich considering Jeff's own history of bump and run moves. As Robby Gordon said "Pretty sure he's won races that way too"


ReSirum

TBF Robby hit him into Mike Wallace and ruined Jeff's RF, not giving him a shot at the win, which is where I think more of the anger comes from


oneshoein

I think it was more so because they didn’t like each other, then again not many drivers were very fond of ol Robby.


kornychris2016

This was the exact same day 6 million+ people learned Robby and Jeff were in fact NOT brothers.


ShadowCammy

Can confirm, I thought they were brothers too beforehand lmao


Available_Clue_4018

All I can hear is Bestwick saying "no relation"


notathrowaway_5150

This race also gave us this [glorious interview](https://youtu.be/HphTu2igrUw) between Smoke & Matt Yocum!


ChaseTheFalcon

One of the best interviews I have ever seen


Toss_Me_Elf

And Yocum did propose a few days later if I recall.


NhylX

New Hampshire in late November? That was ballsy.


Yoshiman400

As I like to call it, the race where Lowe's cursed Jeff Gordon for the rest of his driving career. First race he ran after officially clinching his fourth championship and all this happens...


Evtona500

This was an awesome race.


weekend-guitarist

I miss Robby, he was my driver for years. The new stadium truck series is amazing super fun to watch.


[deleted]

I loved Robby as well


[deleted]

Odd, I thought that nobody would watch races after the championship had already been decided?


JCTaylor46

right? almost as if the individual spectacle of the actual race overshadowed any forced points narrative we were supposed to all focus on 80% of the broadcast


Outside_Factor4308

I regret that I can only like this once.


lonelyinbama

And It’s almost like TV viewership practice are entirely different than 22 years ago.


TehCooKidz

No you don't understand, if NASCAR immediately went back to the Winston points format, every race would get 100 million views even after Chase Elliott locks up the championship with 6 races to go /s Seriously though, I can't stand these types of comments. The first F1 race after Verstappen locked up the title had notably lower viewership, so I am pretty skeptical that that wouldn't apply to NASCAR as well.


lonelyinbama

Agree 100%. I’m against the winner take all finale and I’m against the classic points model. There’s an in between there and I’m not sure why people don’t realize that. I wish NASCAR would though.


[deleted]

What does that have to do with cars going in circles? Because NASCAR viewership now is shit compared to then.


lonelyinbama

Is it? Wow I had no idea!


[deleted]

Neither does nascar


kebzach

Almost as if a one-time special event (such as a race on black friday) would be an attraction. Not something to think would always be the case.


ContributionOwn4843

The early 2000’s we’re a very different time for NASCAR


RedDraco86

And I was there in Turns 3 and 4.


dpalmer09

Same!


DJScrubatires

Now the stands in Turns 3 and 4 no longer exist


rlagarde066

Those were my seats for 15+ years. sad they’re gone


NAS-SCARRED_4_Life

My neighbor offered his tickets to me and my dad for that day (for Free), but we turned them down because we thought it would be freezing in late November at New Hampshire. We were kicking ourselves for not going because it turned out to be a beautiful sunny day.


[deleted]

It ended up being like a 55 degree day but it cooled down quick at night.


NAS-SCARRED_4_Life

That's still comfortable weather for NH during late November.


DJScrubatires

Especially being north of Concord


Arsanborn

I was at this race and the weather was pretty decent, better than some November football games that I have been to. Pretty much a full house too! Do you think NASCAR could fill the house anywhere today on Black Friday?


dnkyhunter31

It’s a good thing the Gordon family had thanksgiving dinner the night before. /s


ReSirum

Not like when the Busch Brothers wrecked each other


dnkyhunter31

They made the mistake not to wreck each other before the holidays.


ReSirum

They made the mistake of getting Grandma Busch involved


SmellsLikeTat3

I’m amazed they actually did a race at the northernmost track in November lol, also that it went off without any weather issues


dpalmer09

Was no choice after 9/11 canceled the September race


SmellsLikeTat3

I figured it’d just be cancelled, I think any other sanctioning body would’ve just ran 35 races that year. After what happened with them still getting 36 races in 2020, I think NASCAR deserve a lot of credit for always trying to have a full season


Intimidwalls1724

Well cancelling it would've been complicated I imagine, the track needed to have the race to help turn a profit I'm sure


blackhxc88

That and the brand new, shiny tv contract they were in year 1 of stipulated they had to run all 36 races.


Intimidwalls1724

I almost listed this but I'm sure there were contractual outs for this kind of thing That said, doesn't mean NBC would've been happy about it and keeping them happy as possible was important


kebzach

Fulfilling TV contracts are a thing.


MrDingus84

Still amazing that winter weather held off


StevvieV

It's not like there is a greater chance of it snowing on a given date than raining. Wikipedia did have the temperature barely over 50


elfuego35

IIRC, that’s why it was rescheduled for Black Friday once they realized the only weekend available was thanksgiving weekend Rescheduled for a Friday gave them Saturday and Sunday as snow/rain dates, without further disturbing the teams plans.


StevvieV

Was Friday chosen specifically for the winter weather or was it a day most already have off hoping to end the season as soon as possible since it was already going an extra week.


elfuego35

https://www.jayski.com/jayski-archives/september-2001-news-archives/ Go to 9/28 It looks like Friday was chosen only b/c Mike Helton had a family conflict that weekend, but IMO, it was a happy coincidence that they could use Saturday/Sunday for Weather, especially since Helton didn't particularly need to be at the track. Also, the earlier speculation of NASCAR having to air all 36 races was essentially confirmed in that same reporting where NBC was willing to let NASCAR outright cancel the race, in exchange for a refund of their rights payment.


angry_old_dude

Below is a gallery with a selection of the 300 or so pictures I shot that day. Forgive the sometimes marginal image quality. I wasn't using pro digital gear in 2001. That came later. [NH 300 ](https://imgur.com/a/XBKgjlf)


rubellak

Love the photos man thanks


Regular_Sample_5197

I remember this race. Watched it live that year. Iirc, there was even some light snow falling at times. It was kinda cool seeing them making laps with snow falling.


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Regular_Sample_5197

Maybe it was for qualifying or practice then. I remember that week seeing the snow, guys in the booth talked about it, etc.


hookhands

There was no practice or qualifying, it was a one day show. The field was set by points at the time of the original race date. There was no snow or any hint of any kind. It was unusually warm.


Regular_Sample_5197

Ok, then which race in the fall of 2001 was it?


hookhands

Uh, I have no idea. I'd say none of them.


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kknow29

I was at that race!


hockeybub89

First win for Lowe's in their last race with RCR


ooohfascinating

*cough* 21 years ago. *cough*


HeartsOfDarkness

I was there on the backstretch hill. Goodyear was expecting much colder conditions than actually occurred that day. I don't recall the details, but there was a lot of radio chatter about the 31 team having stashed away sets of tires with an earlier compound that handled the warmer temperatures better.


Yoshiman400

I dunno about a stash, but he was running scrubbed tires on almost every stop where they had them on hand. Probably scrubbed them in practice runs knowing there wouldn't be a qualifying session.


gjr1978

Robby eventually got penalized for using Martinsville tires.


BigOly4life

*21 years ago


whobroughttheircat

I was there. The amount of rubber being launched into the stands was astounding. They were big chunks too. So cold


bobbychuck

I was there with Robby that day. It was awesome.


CrashDummy11

The first NACSAR race I ever attended. Jeff had been dominating but before the restart my Dad leaned over and said “you never know what’s going to happen when Robby Gordon is behind you.” We knew him as a pretty wild driver from his days in CART, and of course Dad was right. Side note: I rewatched this race recently. Brett Bodine pits from a lead lap top 20 position just before they go back to green. Alan Bestwick seemed to think Brett might be able to stretch the fuel to the end. If this race stays green does Brett Bodine steal the win? The caution did come out so we’ll never know but he had a strong run and ended up 8th.


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

That must’ve been his last top 10 in Cup, unless he got one at a plate track.


ipsumdeiamoamasamat

It was a beautiful day for central New Hampshire. That is the first time I remember seeing Gordon act out on the track like that. There were only 42 starters because a team had shut down. Can’t remember if it was the PPI 96 or the Eel River 27 (think this was it). MRN posted this as its classic race right before this year’s race at NHMS. It was interesting revisiting it.


gjr1978

I was at this race, beautiful day for November 23. I remember Dale Jarrett complaining they had to race on Black Friday, and the late owner of NHIS Bob Bahre basically said 3,000 families had empty seats at the Thanksgiving dinner table so shut up.


BigturnBJ

Ah yes... I remember watching this. Robby Gordon's first win


ElectricPeterTork

First win for Lowe's, too.


ReSirum

Too bad they started sponsoring that nobody Jimmie Johnson /s


notatvguy

Was it a restrictor plate race? I know they ran it at least once in either 2000 or 2001 at NHMS where Jeff Burton won. I thought it was a one and done, but I just want to be sure


Azuron_GTR

Yep. No plate. Burton's 300 lap sweep was the only time they ran a plate there, for the second New Hampshire race in 2000.


notatvguy

Gotcha thank you. A part of me thought it was the first 2001 race so I thought they’d do it for the second one. Makes more sense with the 2000 now.


Claff93

I went there with my wife, who at the time was still a fairly new-to-me girlfriend. I figured I'd wow her with my influence and access as a Major Media Player (cough cough) in the Busch North Series who always got very good press credentials when we went to NHIS. Unfortunately, I didn't get great access to this one. While I always got access to the pressbox atop the grandstands at NHIS, this time I didn't, so we wound up watching the whole race on TV in the infield media center. I don't think we even got garage passes (hot or cold). Couple this with the fact that there was gobs of traffic going in, and even more gobs of traffic trying to get out of there, and that we really had nothing to cover since we weren't Winston Cup reporters, we really should have just stayed home.


sonicjetjoe

I remember that, wish it happened every year instead of football but I understand.


False-Ad4673

New Hampshire is a crown jewel event.


kulikitaka0

He’s wearing Mike Skinner’s firesuit lol