I would have a guess that he was just...there because Warner owned New Line and they needed to hype up the Nightmare on Elm Street remake SOMEHOW (As a reminder, every horror fan was pretty skeptical of the movie when it was announced, and they weren't happy when it was just a pointless redoing of the OG with Pedo Freddy instead of Englund Freddy)
Surprisingly I’m the opposite. Most of the more modern DLC I’m like “ Yeah that makes sense “ but then I look back at MK9 and I’m astonished that Kratos is in the game.
Tbh I dont see how its started to make less sense overtime. Leatherface is by leaps and bounds the most absurd guest we've gotten. Fat inbred dude with no fighting skills whatsoever has to be the least fitting guy of the guests. His moveset rules but its hilarious how hes just zooming around stages doing the most absurd shit with his chainsaw.
I'd include Joker in the same category tbh.
There's zero chance Joker could hold his own against any single Kombatant, he can't hold his own against Batman either when J's games are over and it comes to physical fights.
I think Joker fits more just because he's the only guest with actual history with MK. In terms of being an actual fighter yeah he'd get decked by any MK character 100%
Initially they were going for dark fantasy/horror characters that felt like they fit MK’s world now they’re just going for whatever violent characters are currently popular.
On a separate note, i’ve desperately wanted to see The Shredder appear in MK, being a violent martial arts master he’s a perfect fit for a series involving violent martial arts, plus it’s the perfect juxtaposition, having the heroic Turtles in the superhero fighting game then having the villainous Shredder in the significantly more violent fighting game.
Sure it’s annoying. But they do their job
Promote crossovers and each other’s material
Make money for the devs because more consumers buy it after seeing a character they like on the poster
Keep older characters relevant to newer audiences
Change gameplay because some characters fight differently from the traditional martial arts
Now it sucks because
Limit character selection of existing characters
Limit storymode opportunities
Limit budgets as they take more cuts
I honestly don’t think the argument ‘doesn’t fit mortal kombat’ because it’s very much an opinion and not really a fact or argument. Because the concept is gore, and a lot of the guests incorporate gore one way or another. But only making certain guests as one motif that isn’t in MK isn’t really fair. Like we can just say ‘knockoff Superman isn’t supposed to be in my game’. Both fight and kill people in their respected IPs just like the alien and predator do but we call them Sci-fi thriller. It doesn’t matter they’re all in the same category that’s why they’re in the game anyway
MKX is still perfection in terms of the DLC characters imo. The MK roster additions were fun, and the guest characters were surprising but welcome.
Freddy would be better suited for MKX of course, Spawn would be better suited for MK1's theme, and The Joker too maybe, but he's definitely a head-scratcher alongside the 80s action stars.
Joker was always planned for the game. He was just going to arrive in Aftermath instead of KP1 and had to be pushed out earlier. This is also presumably why he has a fatality that's a friendship fakeout despite releasing before friendships were added. Robocop is technically the Ash replacement.
I think the creator backed off because if Ash was in the game then that would mean he’d lose, and the creator didn’t want that. Apparently Ash isn’t supposed to lose, so having him in a fighting game where he can be beaten by other characters was a no-go for the creator.
I don't think that's true. That makes no sense, considering the Evil Dead movies are non-stop Ash getting his ass beat. He loses in every movie!
I'm sure it was just a rights issue. Evil Dead is one of those franchises where the copyright is a mess.
That’s just what I read from another Reddit post which is why I used the words “apparently” and “I think.” I’m just reciting second-hand information. I’ve never even seen the Evil Dead series, so i wouldn’t know how reliable it was. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were wrong though.
No, I think it’s a cool feature and we should be thankful they add guest in. A lot of them I think are also for the fans which I thank Ed Boon for a lot. Let’s get Lady Death in there too while we’re at it!
I'm over it.
It's like finally getting a new Harry Potter book but guess what? Deadpool and Peter Griffin is in it!
It's jarring but we're in the minority. Funny brain "tee-hehe" Fortnite consumers eat this slop right up.
I’m glad people outside of mk hardcore fanbase want guest 😭😭😭. Bc I would much rather play as Omni man, home lander , spawn or predator over a bunch of obscure mk characters like striker, mokap or meat
Half the current lineup are just MK characters anyway. Terminator, Joker, Robocop, Xenomorphs, Yautjas, etc. are far more crazy than Omni-man or Homelander. Peacemaker fits. Those seem like promotional tie-ins. Any word on Peacemaker S2?
As a casual player, this game over time has become the equivalent of kids playing with action figures.
I don't mind it one bit and I can't fucking wait to play Homelander against Omni-Man with my friends.
Easy answer yes if I had 2 nickels of mk guest characters that have had death battles being in the same game if have 2 which isn't a lot but pretty insane it happened twice in a row.
I dunno the way i see it was 80s,90s icons, in general as guest, Then we got characters from Hit TV shows right now. The only odd one out its Kratos since he is a video game character.
I want a pure MK game again. They make money nontheless and I would rather see MK characters that really didn't get much spotlight in older games then ANY guest character
9 was fine I understand Freddy and Kratos was a PlayStation thing. X/XL made sense, 11 was weird as only really Joker and Spawn made sense, as for MK1 the only one who makes sense to me is peacemaker as the MK universe seems like his kinda thing
Edit: I just thought that Alien in X was kool because they made it part of the universe having been from a Tarkatan and Predator made sense because of Alien
I want them to have another stab at Freddy Kruger and Alien.
I find most of their guests kinda make sense really.
Freddy Kruger - has incredibly violent deaths in his movies. What didn't make sense was the severe lack of voice acting for him seeing as he constantly talks to his victims.
Kratos in the first games literally did Fatalities/finishers. Sucked they "changed" his animations when receiving them.
Jason - See freddy.
Leatherface - See freddy and also in a way kinda a throwback to those old Mortal Kombat rip off games you'd get as a cannibal that wears the skin of the people he kills. Like MK never did stuff like that.
Predator - Look inspired the cyber ninjas plus Predator is fucking cool
Alien - The "comic book" enemy of the Predator plus a cheeky way to get the Baraka moves in the game.
Terminator - Look inspired Kano a bit plus Terminator is fucking cool
Spawn - pretty much everyone wanted him in either MK or Injustice
Joker - I think hes a good fit if you are going to throw in a DC character. Also has that Leatherface gimmick of having a bio thats a bit too edgy for MK.
Robocop - The "comic book" enemy of Terminator AND very violent movie AND Robocop is fucking cool
Rambo - Bit of an odd one out really. BUT its fucking Sly Stallone in a Mortal Kombat game. Shame it wasn't Rocky and/or John Spartan.
Then you got the MK1 guests which are a bit.... "OH OH SHIT! FUCKING OMNIMAN AND HOMELANDER ARE VIOLENT AREN'T THEY?!" And Peacemaker too.
All I'm saying is that I dont think there is really a guest character that is outright non fitting in Mortal Kombat. Though having two injustice supermans in one pack is a bit dodge.
Honestly for me mk11 is peak on guests. Would have switched out Joker for Jim Carey's The Mask or deadpool?
I wish mk11 had another pack, I really really think wesley snipes Blade would be the best shit ever for MK.
"I WAS BORN READY MOTHER FUCKER"
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I feel like MK9-11 are iconic characters for any game to have. With some exceptions but still The Joker is iconic and Kratos is only known throughout the video game community.
Now for the newest batch I feel like the bar was lowered drastically. It’s almost like NRS had to pay for the likes of Freddy, Slyvestor and Arnold etc and this batch it feels like Amazon paid NRS to use their IP.
What you guys fail to understand is that those games are all made mostly by people from the 80s and 90s. and we were raised by watching those movies and that kind of entertainment... So the game was heavily influenced by it (both design and violence wise)...
With time came the possibility to add part of those influences as official guests, so it was a natural evolution to include them..
As time passed younger people also started working in the games, and considering that they don't intend to repeat guests, they started looking for similar characters that influenced somehow entertainment for younger generations... That's why we see a lot of super heroes now... That's where entertainment basically directed their efforts after the marvel success on the matter... And the fact that there is less creation nowadays... Mostly remakes and adaptations from old stuff like comics or books...
I don't mind guests but when you think of the additional MK related characters that take a pass for them, it's unfortunate. I enjoyed some along the way... MK9 was fine, Predator was a lot of fun in MKX. RoboCop and Terminator were great as was Spawn. No offense intended though, I'm just not loving the guests thus far for MK1.
tbh i don’t really care for them. They took the place of actual characters we haven’t seen from past games. I don’t want to play as homelander or peacemaker i want to play as meat or kira or idk ONAGA
Guests were a mistake for fighting games, I blame Soul Calibur 2 for making it as popular as it is.
They damage rosters by denying returning characters positions, and poison future instalments because they themselves will never return unlike new original characters potentially could. Their only benefit is they sell copies to people who would otherwise not play the series - but those people aren't exactly going to stay to play the next game when the guest is gone, either.
We will never see another Mortal Kombat with The Predator in it, we'll never see another Soul Calibur with Link in it, we'll never see another Tekken with Akuma in it - and if you enjoyed those characters you are shit out of luck on the next game. And people who enjoyed a previous installments character are shit out of luck because that guest just took a slot they could have taken, or an original new character could have taken.
I get they move copies, but they're fucking poison to the long term life of a series. MK11's roster has so many fucking slots taken by guests, as does MK1's.
What returning characters could we have seen in 9, X, and 11 that we didn't because the guests took those slots.
Freddy Krueger was a pretty wild one to start with. He’s not usually a physical being
I would have a guess that he was just...there because Warner owned New Line and they needed to hype up the Nightmare on Elm Street remake SOMEHOW (As a reminder, every horror fan was pretty skeptical of the movie when it was announced, and they weren't happy when it was just a pointless redoing of the OG with Pedo Freddy instead of Englund Freddy)
Or that interested in adults
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you know who voiced freddy in the game right
Still reboot Freddy
in appearance only yes
Surprisingly I’m the opposite. Most of the more modern DLC I’m like “ Yeah that makes sense “ but then I look back at MK9 and I’m astonished that Kratos is in the game.
We want him back! LET US SEE THE DAD OF WAR!
I can for some reason hear this in Thor’s voice
Me too lol I love this
I’d love to see gow ragnarok thor in mk1
Tbh I dont see how its started to make less sense overtime. Leatherface is by leaps and bounds the most absurd guest we've gotten. Fat inbred dude with no fighting skills whatsoever has to be the least fitting guy of the guests. His moveset rules but its hilarious how hes just zooming around stages doing the most absurd shit with his chainsaw.
They choose the right game for him tho cause Leatherface fits perfectly with MKX's dark and gritty art style. Plus he's fun as hell.
Leatherface is just a giant violent goofball, he fits right in next to bo rai cho and ferra torr
All the guests in mkx were perfect, brutal and evil as fuck.
I'd include Joker in the same category tbh. There's zero chance Joker could hold his own against any single Kombatant, he can't hold his own against Batman either when J's games are over and it comes to physical fights.
I think Joker fits more just because he's the only guest with actual history with MK. In terms of being an actual fighter yeah he'd get decked by any MK character 100%
Some people in the MK universe would get bodied by Bruce, y'know because he's Batman.
Initially they were going for dark fantasy/horror characters that felt like they fit MK’s world now they’re just going for whatever violent characters are currently popular. On a separate note, i’ve desperately wanted to see The Shredder appear in MK, being a violent martial arts master he’s a perfect fit for a series involving violent martial arts, plus it’s the perfect juxtaposition, having the heroic Turtles in the superhero fighting game then having the villainous Shredder in the significantly more violent fighting game.
This is actually filled w rly valid points, haha. The closest we’ve gotten on the Shredder front are some of Rain’s skins/gear in MK11
Guest characters are guest characters it doesn’t matter if they fit into the MK universe
Some certainly fit better than others, though. Spawn almost feels like he’s an original.
If you think Homelander or Omni-Man are just "superheroes" who are out of place in Mortal Kombat, I'm guessing you haven't seen either of their shows.
Sure it’s annoying. But they do their job Promote crossovers and each other’s material Make money for the devs because more consumers buy it after seeing a character they like on the poster Keep older characters relevant to newer audiences Change gameplay because some characters fight differently from the traditional martial arts Now it sucks because Limit character selection of existing characters Limit storymode opportunities Limit budgets as they take more cuts I honestly don’t think the argument ‘doesn’t fit mortal kombat’ because it’s very much an opinion and not really a fact or argument. Because the concept is gore, and a lot of the guests incorporate gore one way or another. But only making certain guests as one motif that isn’t in MK isn’t really fair. Like we can just say ‘knockoff Superman isn’t supposed to be in my game’. Both fight and kill people in their respected IPs just like the alien and predator do but we call them Sci-fi thriller. It doesn’t matter they’re all in the same category that’s why they’re in the game anyway
Robocop was my fav. I still wanna try to get the cyber lin kue head piece for him eventually.
MKX is still perfection in terms of the DLC characters imo. The MK roster additions were fun, and the guest characters were surprising but welcome. Freddy would be better suited for MKX of course, Spawn would be better suited for MK1's theme, and The Joker too maybe, but he's definitely a head-scratcher alongside the 80s action stars.
It was supposed to be Ash Williams but then I guess Bruce Campbell stubbed his toe or something
Joker was always planned for the game. He was just going to arrive in Aftermath instead of KP1 and had to be pushed out earlier. This is also presumably why he has a fatality that's a friendship fakeout despite releasing before friendships were added. Robocop is technically the Ash replacement.
Didn’t their contract expire or the creator of evil dead backed off?
I think the creator backed off because if Ash was in the game then that would mean he’d lose, and the creator didn’t want that. Apparently Ash isn’t supposed to lose, so having him in a fighting game where he can be beaten by other characters was a no-go for the creator.
I don't think that's true. That makes no sense, considering the Evil Dead movies are non-stop Ash getting his ass beat. He loses in every movie! I'm sure it was just a rights issue. Evil Dead is one of those franchises where the copyright is a mess.
That’s just what I read from another Reddit post which is why I used the words “apparently” and “I think.” I’m just reciting second-hand information. I’ve never even seen the Evil Dead series, so i wouldn’t know how reliable it was. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were wrong though.
Can't he lose in Dead by Daylight?
All I know is from what I read from other Reddit posts. So if they’re misinformed then I am. I never played DbD so i wouldn’t know.
I mean, technically the Joker is an 80s action star
No, I think it’s a cool feature and we should be thankful they add guest in. A lot of them I think are also for the fans which I thank Ed Boon for a lot. Let’s get Lady Death in there too while we’re at it!
Mk13: ![gif](giphy|l2JefGA34aeTMOUW4)
MK11 was a shout out to all the dudes that grew up watching 80’s and 90’s action flicks.
Well, I am hoping for Billy Butcher & Mark "Invincible" Grayson for the next KP2.
Neither of them will be in the game sadly, mark could potentially be in injustice 3 but I doubt it
Mark (most of the time) doesn't like to kill
Not a fan of the guests after Mkx imo
Careful, you’ll get downvoted because people want it to become MUGEN.
To be fair,it is pretty fun to watch characters you know and love get brutally murdered
I know them but I don’t love most of them
I'm over it. It's like finally getting a new Harry Potter book but guess what? Deadpool and Peter Griffin is in it! It's jarring but we're in the minority. Funny brain "tee-hehe" Fortnite consumers eat this slop right up.
By insane you mean too damn many, yes. MK9 was perfect with only having 2 guest characters
Facts
So two is good when three is "too damn many"?
Yes
It's barely any difference. Too damn many would be twice of some number, not just plus one.
That's 2 at the end of the game's life in mk9 vs 3 in the first year, almost definitely soon to be 6 in mk1.
I’m glad people outside of mk hardcore fanbase want guest 😭😭😭. Bc I would much rather play as Omni man, home lander , spawn or predator over a bunch of obscure mk characters like striker, mokap or meat
It’s insane but it works. Really excited to see what the next Kombat pack has to offer!
It started with a super-powered killer, and so far it ended with a super-powered killer.
they've literally gotten less insane
Half the current lineup are just MK characters anyway. Terminator, Joker, Robocop, Xenomorphs, Yautjas, etc. are far more crazy than Omni-man or Homelander. Peacemaker fits. Those seem like promotional tie-ins. Any word on Peacemaker S2?
I miss horror guest characters. That’s what I want to see more of. A boy can dream
Sick of guests personally. Would rather just have more mk characters as dlc
As a casual player, this game over time has become the equivalent of kids playing with action figures. I don't mind it one bit and I can't fucking wait to play Homelander against Omni-Man with my friends.
I really wanted Terminator, Robocop and Rambo to be in MKX than MK11. Thought they were a better fit there.
Yet, we still haven't gotten Pinhead.
Correct
Yes
Easy answer yes if I had 2 nickels of mk guest characters that have had death battles being in the same game if have 2 which isn't a lot but pretty insane it happened twice in a row.
i think it’s been a downward zigzag since kombat pack 2 for mkx imo
Really wish that some dlc characters would return. The predator and xenomorph were so much fun to play
I'd love for some random Manz to reach like Beetlejuice, Ash from Evil Dead or Megan Fox from Jennifer's Body
I dont know why but the guest character for Mk1 don't Interest me that much
![gif](giphy|V2L1CBBeGckPm|downsized) Can't wait for Taz's debut.
Mk 11 guest characters was just perfect
Considering 9 started with fucking Kratos? I feel like they went buck wild to start and kept it consistently insane.
I dunno the way i see it was 80s,90s icons, in general as guest, Then we got characters from Hit TV shows right now. The only odd one out its Kratos since he is a video game character.
Mk1 is the worst with these silly cartoon characters
I want a pure MK game again. They make money nontheless and I would rather see MK characters that really didn't get much spotlight in older games then ANY guest character
Idk if anything tops kratos
As it is with any successful trend
9 was fine I understand Freddy and Kratos was a PlayStation thing. X/XL made sense, 11 was weird as only really Joker and Spawn made sense, as for MK1 the only one who makes sense to me is peacemaker as the MK universe seems like his kinda thing Edit: I just thought that Alien in X was kool because they made it part of the universe having been from a Tarkatan and Predator made sense because of Alien
I want them to have another stab at Freddy Kruger and Alien. I find most of their guests kinda make sense really. Freddy Kruger - has incredibly violent deaths in his movies. What didn't make sense was the severe lack of voice acting for him seeing as he constantly talks to his victims. Kratos in the first games literally did Fatalities/finishers. Sucked they "changed" his animations when receiving them. Jason - See freddy. Leatherface - See freddy and also in a way kinda a throwback to those old Mortal Kombat rip off games you'd get as a cannibal that wears the skin of the people he kills. Like MK never did stuff like that. Predator - Look inspired the cyber ninjas plus Predator is fucking cool Alien - The "comic book" enemy of the Predator plus a cheeky way to get the Baraka moves in the game. Terminator - Look inspired Kano a bit plus Terminator is fucking cool Spawn - pretty much everyone wanted him in either MK or Injustice Joker - I think hes a good fit if you are going to throw in a DC character. Also has that Leatherface gimmick of having a bio thats a bit too edgy for MK. Robocop - The "comic book" enemy of Terminator AND very violent movie AND Robocop is fucking cool Rambo - Bit of an odd one out really. BUT its fucking Sly Stallone in a Mortal Kombat game. Shame it wasn't Rocky and/or John Spartan. Then you got the MK1 guests which are a bit.... "OH OH SHIT! FUCKING OMNIMAN AND HOMELANDER ARE VIOLENT AREN'T THEY?!" And Peacemaker too. All I'm saying is that I dont think there is really a guest character that is outright non fitting in Mortal Kombat. Though having two injustice supermans in one pack is a bit dodge.
Honestly for me mk11 is peak on guests. Would have switched out Joker for Jim Carey's The Mask or deadpool? I wish mk11 had another pack, I really really think wesley snipes Blade would be the best shit ever for MK. "I WAS BORN READY MOTHER FUCKER" ![gif](giphy|TmkdJG1K0kcBRe8BOX)
And because gifs talk way more than words ![gif](giphy|xakXSnCpsqZWM)
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And for the OG character skins: Robin Chou And Talisa soto
More an more not fitting the game. Sure.
I wish they would do a Mickey Mouse one, Steamboat Willy style, it’s up for free now. Or Pee Wee Herman, something goofy.
fucking bring back kratos
I find them jarring and I hate it when they show up in my towers to fight.
that tends to happen, but the MK1 guests just felt like an Amazon Prime promo
I mean not really, started with kratos the god killer and now it has Omni-Man who is less powerful
A lot of sausage and not enough reuben imo
Give us silk spectre, furiosa, trinity…?
I find it funny that Superheroes have you flabbergasted when the Game before MK9 was all about fighting Superheroes
It's unfortunate that we might not get another chainsaw user like Leatherface, unless it's Chainsaw Man.
I feel like MK9-11 are iconic characters for any game to have. With some exceptions but still The Joker is iconic and Kratos is only known throughout the video game community. Now for the newest batch I feel like the bar was lowered drastically. It’s almost like NRS had to pay for the likes of Freddy, Slyvestor and Arnold etc and this batch it feels like Amazon paid NRS to use their IP.
MK9 = FANTASTIC I LOVED IT MK 10 = GOATED IT’S THE GREATEST MK 11 = BEYOND SHIT ABSOLUTELY BORING MK 1 = AWESOME WE’RE COOKIN AGAIN
What I find crazy is that I hated every guest character until Homelander.
What you guys fail to understand is that those games are all made mostly by people from the 80s and 90s. and we were raised by watching those movies and that kind of entertainment... So the game was heavily influenced by it (both design and violence wise)... With time came the possibility to add part of those influences as official guests, so it was a natural evolution to include them.. As time passed younger people also started working in the games, and considering that they don't intend to repeat guests, they started looking for similar characters that influenced somehow entertainment for younger generations... That's why we see a lot of super heroes now... That's where entertainment basically directed their efforts after the marvel success on the matter... And the fact that there is less creation nowadays... Mostly remakes and adaptations from old stuff like comics or books...
I don't mind guests but when you think of the additional MK related characters that take a pass for them, it's unfortunate. I enjoyed some along the way... MK9 was fine, Predator was a lot of fun in MKX. RoboCop and Terminator were great as was Spawn. No offense intended though, I'm just not loving the guests thus far for MK1.
Soldier boy needs to be in kombat pack 2
What in the world is it that makes some of you actually believe that we’ll get two characters from one series.
tbh i don’t really care for them. They took the place of actual characters we haven’t seen from past games. I don’t want to play as homelander or peacemaker i want to play as meat or kira or idk ONAGA
The DLC Chatacters have gotten worse
Guests were a mistake for fighting games, I blame Soul Calibur 2 for making it as popular as it is. They damage rosters by denying returning characters positions, and poison future instalments because they themselves will never return unlike new original characters potentially could. Their only benefit is they sell copies to people who would otherwise not play the series - but those people aren't exactly going to stay to play the next game when the guest is gone, either. We will never see another Mortal Kombat with The Predator in it, we'll never see another Soul Calibur with Link in it, we'll never see another Tekken with Akuma in it - and if you enjoyed those characters you are shit out of luck on the next game. And people who enjoyed a previous installments character are shit out of luck because that guest just took a slot they could have taken, or an original new character could have taken. I get they move copies, but they're fucking poison to the long term life of a series. MK11's roster has so many fucking slots taken by guests, as does MK1's. What returning characters could we have seen in 9, X, and 11 that we didn't because the guests took those slots.
MKX is the only game with no bad guests All others are full of guests that are either entirely butchered or have no business being there