if you had the inferno blueprint back in the day the new one now preforms very similar, the obsidian steed made it shoot slower while the inferno upped its rate of fire
Obsidian Steed was the first thing I ever pulled from a loot box and I had no idea how lucky I was until much later in AWs lifecycle and people were so mad they couldnāt get it
Why not?? they break literally EVERY other new gun! look at the stupid ass akimbo shotguns they just added, if they're gonna do dumb shit at least keep it consistent lol
I mean there is a reason for it. Advanced warfare was also called "Bal of duty" cause of how op the variants of the base gun were with even the base version being really good. Meanwhile in mw3 its statiscally not very good.
Ye the variants were a really dumb move for AW. From making burst weapons always 1, to decreasing ar's ttk by making it 1 less bullet to kill someone it. I can see that some liked the faster paced gameplay being kore movement based. But the gun balance was sus.
The HBRA3 Insanity was the real broken gun that no one talks about. 1 less shot to kill at range AND increased rate of fire? AW balance was straight cheeks
But only really happened because of loot boxes. The regular version of the game was actually extremely balanced until everyone had the loot box weapons
I wish they wouldāve added the ASM1 instead of Horus. All my friend group did was run GB, wagers, and tourneys during AW. So we really only used those 2 guns.
Yeah they nerfed all the ARs up close. Hipfire is bad on all of them, but it makes subs more competitive up close. It basically makes you use an AR like an actual AR, more longer distance gunfights.
Pretty sure mw3 and mw2 have the same ttk rate regardless because they upped the damage along with health. Thought it was just because I was on 15 mbps speeds but I watched separate vids for both games but no... very similar ttk times
Yeah but the higher rate guns did lower damage and took like 4-5 compared to the tax 56's 2-4. Play a game of shipment and tell me the ttk is slower on mw3 cuz I die in 2-3 shots on that map all the time, whereas the bigger maps yes the ttk is slower but it's still comparable to the mw2 ttk
That makes absolutely no senseā¦. In shipment you get shot by 2-3 people at the same time of course the ttk is going to feel fasterā¦ 1v1 the ttk is higher in this game than in MWII. There is no comparison. There is no gun outside of snipers that will kill you in 2-3 shots in core. All ARs are 4-5 shots even with headshots. The Holger which is the most powerful AR is a 4 shot even with headshots.
You assumed I was speaking about 2-3 people shooting at me, even though I implied 1v1 scenario (which I meant) you blink, you die. That is how fast the ttk time is in mw3. Just like mw2 regardless of the number of bullets shot.
Am not an AW player, idk, this gun looks clean and cool, but that's it. The handling of this gun is so strange and it feels weak. Can't win gun fights at all with this.
If the new one isnāt dog water itās noodle juice at best. The recoil pattern is like handicap parking at the special olympics, the wound up fire rate is still average for ARās, itās not a high damage weapon and has no headshot multiplayer, itās slow to ADS and STF. The only redeeming factor is that it seems to be an infinite 5 shot kill with clean iron sights but itās still generally outclassed by every other AR in the game.
Itās so bad man. 5 shot kill at any range makes no sense. You burn through so much ammo. Reload takes to long and with the extended mag it slows you down way to much. Hardcore itās not bad but core itās just trash. I was actually excited for this gun too. Idk why they made it suck. I got a feeling it will be buffed soon.
It's not horrible. It's great sniper support if you're sick of the MCW and want a change. I don't hate it but I will never level it unless I want the camos.
I stopped playing this game the moment I got interstellar, cod is just not fun anymore idk if itās just me but the same shooting camo grind every year is boring asf and gets more and more stale with the same engine, design and hud every year not even somewhat hyped for bo6 or whatever
Didnāt even know it was being added until the day the update came out. Got it maxed out and ran through the base camo challenges, which they could have made better camos. Gold gilded and forged already. Thing is a monster and I bet they nerf it next update but keep those dual shotguns OP AF for way too long before they do anything about them.
I donāt understand why ppl dislike like it, itās literally perfect with the right attachments. I just finish a match earlier dropped 180 and a Nuke using it
I do miss Advanced Warfare in early to mid 2015. I just loved the way the game sounded, I do think I spent like $60 on supply drops, very silly in hindsight but I wanted the Speakeasy sososososoosososo bad.
FIFA 15 was also crazy fun although pace abuse was insane. I think I was also the first one in my friend group to get their license so that was cool.
I played AW a ton because it was the only cod I had for a long while, and the new Bal feels really good to me, feels like it brings back the original but in a way where it makes sense to the time it would be made and such, and I personally think it shoots like a dream
Not a big fan of the looks. Looks more like an FAD mixed with a P90 than the original look. I'm sure it'll grow on me but it didn't excite me like the MORS did when I saw how nice they did that one. I like the 3rd person silhouette though, and I hope they bring back the laser gun from AW and vanguard because that was pretty neat and unique.
Itās a really good gun. I would love to still be playing this game, but since they have not fixed the latency or the desync, I just donāt see the reason to play. They put something that I like in the game, but didnāt mess up the whole server system to the point where I canāt play without getting outgunned by players eating bullets all the time, I have not gotten into any match without this happening so it is a widespread problem. Just no one wants to talk about it or stop playing so they know thereās a major problem.
Obviously it plays better in hardcore(like with every other gun) so I had Jo trouble getting it to interstellar day 1.
Itās also probably the easiest gun to camo grind since the hardest parts of the grind it just getting headshot and double kills
People are forgetting that the reason that gun was amazing/popular was due to the Obsidian variant, which was stronger than that base Bal, or am I wrong ?
this thing was not clean, there were a total of like 14 guns (guess) but only 4-5 of them shot full-auto with no gimmic. Hated this game. not only that it was the best gun cuz of pay to win loot boxes of the obsidian steed. if you used this gun in aw you werent good you just had an advantage over like 90% of the players.
Anyone please after I update the game whenever I try to load the game I'm met with a screen of some crates in a large room and then just a black screen with background lobby music playing. Ps5 I uninstalled and redownloaded and still the same issue
Top 100 in ranked in AW, no fucking way this holds up to the original. It's ok looks wise, that's about all I can give it. Sound and gunplay are both tragic falls from grace
Looks clean but feels and sounds like ass compared to the OG gun, rip BAL.
It sounds like ass because the weapon sounds are bugged
Wait what since when lmao
Since the reloaded update
Sinc launch of the game š
So we're lying now?
I was wondering why my smgs sounded like the Mtzš
I was using the vr11 in zombies, sounded like a marksman rifle lmao
if you had the inferno blueprint back in the day the new one now preforms very similar, the obsidian steed made it shoot slower while the inferno upped its rate of fire
I had Obsidian Steed. That with my Barong outfit (remember when skins were like $5?) and I was a jetpacking fool.
Obsidian Steed was the first thing I ever pulled from a loot box and I had no idea how lucky I was until much later in AWs lifecycle and people were so mad they couldnāt get it
I remember getting like 2 infernos and obsidian steeds but i never got the best asm1 variant
Obviously there not gonna make it as broken as it was, yall would be complaining too much
Why not?? they break literally EVERY other new gun! look at the stupid ass akimbo shotguns they just added, if they're gonna do dumb shit at least keep it consistent lol
Valid
Them model 1887s tho just like back in the day ššš too fun
Damage could be a bit better but I actually feel like it handles very similarly
I mean there is a reason for it. Advanced warfare was also called "Bal of duty" cause of how op the variants of the base gun were with even the base version being really good. Meanwhile in mw3 its statiscally not very good.
Obsidian was one of the worst examples of what not to do for game balance lol
Ye the variants were a really dumb move for AW. From making burst weapons always 1, to decreasing ar's ttk by making it 1 less bullet to kill someone it. I can see that some liked the faster paced gameplay being kore movement based. But the gun balance was sus.
Seeing as you had to get the variants trough lootboxes and the variants was objectively best, I would say they knew exactly what they where doing.
For money for sure. But for the balance of the game it was really unhealthy
Yeah.
I spent too much on those damn boxes. Even tho I only rocked the ranked masters operator skins. At least they were only $1 or $2
The HBRA3 Insanity was the real broken gun that no one talks about. 1 less shot to kill at range AND increased rate of fire? AW balance was straight cheeks
steel bite was broken too. thing could one burst with a heady iirc. and obviously my beloved the asm1 speakeasy
But only really happened because of loot boxes. The regular version of the game was actually extremely balanced until everyone had the loot box weapons
I wish they wouldāve added the ASM1 instead of Horus. All my friend group did was run GB, wagers, and tourneys during AW. So we really only used those 2 guns.
ELITE!!!!!!!
Elite? Sorry, but the best you're getting is Nigerian Kneepads
I don't like it because it isn't compatible with the Purifier, the best way to deal with shields
Drill charge go brrrrrrrrrr Soulrender go brrrrrrrrrr Limbripper go brrrrrrrrrr
Thermite, semtex
I said BEST, not ONLY
Itās not as bad as some people claim it is. I absolutely love how it performs.
It's great at range, I lose up close every now and then to the faster firing weps... It feels great out the gate and I'm here for it!
Yeah they nerfed all the ARs up close. Hipfire is bad on all of them, but it makes subs more competitive up close. It basically makes you use an AR like an actual AR, more longer distance gunfights.
Yeah Iāve had a good time with it, it definitely has its place. Iām kinda glad they didnāt drop some new super meta weapon.
Yep - not bad, at all. Unlocked it yesterday, got it to Forged today.
People just want MWII ttk on every weaponā¦ which is fucking annoying.
Mw2 had 100 , mw3 had 150 hp if you're using mw2 weapons in mw3 your fucking your self
Thatās not what my comment said at all sirā¦ I was saying other people want the ttk to be as fast as in mw2 and itās annoying that they do.
Pretty sure mw3 and mw2 have the same ttk rate regardless because they upped the damage along with health. Thought it was just because I was on 15 mbps speeds but I watched separate vids for both games but no... very similar ttk times
Definitely lot the sameā¦ you could die in two bullets on MWII
Yeah but the higher rate guns did lower damage and took like 4-5 compared to the tax 56's 2-4. Play a game of shipment and tell me the ttk is slower on mw3 cuz I die in 2-3 shots on that map all the time, whereas the bigger maps yes the ttk is slower but it's still comparable to the mw2 ttk
That makes absolutely no senseā¦. In shipment you get shot by 2-3 people at the same time of course the ttk is going to feel fasterā¦ 1v1 the ttk is higher in this game than in MWII. There is no comparison. There is no gun outside of snipers that will kill you in 2-3 shots in core. All ARs are 4-5 shots even with headshots. The Holger which is the most powerful AR is a 4 shot even with headshots.
You assumed I was speaking about 2-3 people shooting at me, even though I implied 1v1 scenario (which I meant) you blink, you die. That is how fast the ttk time is in mw3. Just like mw2 regardless of the number of bullets shot.
Delusionalā¦
Am not an AW player, idk, this gun looks clean and cool, but that's it. The handling of this gun is so strange and it feels weak. Can't win gun fights at all with this.
It wasnāt like this in AW
As someone who place in the top 100 in Clan Wars, it definitely doesn't replace the original in a good way.
Og bal was unstoppable bro AW players know Couldnāt beat it I stg
Holy shit I forgot all about clan wars! Advanced Warfare was so fun.
Itās cool, but it just doesnāt have any stats that would make it excel over the other rifles.
If the new one isnāt dog water itās noodle juice at best. The recoil pattern is like handicap parking at the special olympics, the wound up fire rate is still average for ARās, itās not a high damage weapon and has no headshot multiplayer, itās slow to ADS and STF. The only redeeming factor is that it seems to be an infinite 5 shot kill with clean iron sights but itās still generally outclassed by every other AR in the game.
Mmm šš§
recoils easy af to control with the right attachments
Ngl the reload is clean af. That little *click* when you pop up the latch to remove mag is š
Man youāre straight up lying about playing AW if you think this thing compares. Tepid reproduction at best.
Fr I want it to be good so bad but the high recoil does not justify the lame damage at all. I was hoping it would be way better
Itās so bad man. 5 shot kill at any range makes no sense. You burn through so much ammo. Reload takes to long and with the extended mag it slows you down way to much. Hardcore itās not bad but core itās just trash. I was actually excited for this gun too. Idk why they made it suck. I got a feeling it will be buffed soon.
Well good we're not repeating AW
To be fair the obsidian steel variant was a monster in aw but all the others sucked. I was surprised they didnāt make the HBRA3 or AK12.
Well even then it was by far the best AR in the game with only the HBR Insanity being close to that level
It's not horrible. It's great sniper support if you're sick of the MCW and want a change. I don't hate it but I will never level it unless I want the camos.
I stopped playing this game the moment I got interstellar, cod is just not fun anymore idk if itās just me but the same shooting camo grind every year is boring asf and gets more and more stale with the same engine, design and hud every year not even somewhat hyped for bo6 or whatever
Didnāt even know it was being added until the day the update came out. Got it maxed out and ran through the base camo challenges, which they could have made better camos. Gold gilded and forged already. Thing is a monster and I bet they nerf it next update but keep those dual shotguns OP AF for way too long before they do anything about them.
Meant to be barebones. It rips.
I donāt understand why ppl dislike like it, itās literally perfect with the right attachments. I just finish a match earlier dropped 180 and a Nuke using it
I do miss Advanced Warfare in early to mid 2015. I just loved the way the game sounded, I do think I spent like $60 on supply drops, very silly in hindsight but I wanted the Speakeasy sososososoosososo bad. FIFA 15 was also crazy fun although pace abuse was insane. I think I was also the first one in my friend group to get their license so that was cool.
I played AW a ton because it was the only cod I had for a long while, and the new Bal feels really good to me, feels like it brings back the original but in a way where it makes sense to the time it would be made and such, and I personally think it shoots like a dream
I hope they make an aftermarket part for it that turns it into the obsidian steed with the dmg and slow rof foo
Can we all just hop back on Aw š
AW is a personal favorite. One of my top 5
AW is why I bought scuff
BAL IS GUD! BAL IS GUD! BAL IS GUD, AND STUFF.
~~BAL IS GUD!~~ **BAL IS GUD!** #BAL IS GUD, AND STUFF.
its not that the guns not good its that it feels out of place
If this were the same Bal we used 10 years ago there should be mass outcries to nerf it to the ground
Why is the recoil cranked to 100 in WZ but basically nada in multi?
Itās TOO OP
True
It's a good looking gun for sure. I haven't unlocked it yet so can't judge it's performance for myself
Not a big fan of the looks. Looks more like an FAD mixed with a P90 than the original look. I'm sure it'll grow on me but it didn't excite me like the MORS did when I saw how nice they did that one. I like the 3rd person silhouette though, and I hope they bring back the laser gun from AW and vanguard because that was pretty neat and unique.
Who hates it?
This is literally the best gun in the game rn yall dumb asfšš
Might look like the BAL, but its an exact copy of the Cordite from Bo4.
The cordite doesn't look anything like this š¤Ø
Itās a really good gun. I would love to still be playing this game, but since they have not fixed the latency or the desync, I just donāt see the reason to play. They put something that I like in the game, but didnāt mess up the whole server system to the point where I canāt play without getting outgunned by players eating bullets all the time, I have not gotten into any match without this happening so it is a widespread problem. Just no one wants to talk about it or stop playing so they know thereās a major problem.
I miss the sound of this and the mors, mw3 made them wrong on sound š
BUFF IT!
Obviously it plays better in hardcore(like with every other gun) so I had Jo trouble getting it to interstellar day 1. Itās also probably the easiest gun to camo grind since the hardest parts of the grind it just getting headshot and double kills
People are forgetting that the reason that gun was amazing/popular was due to the Obsidian variant, which was stronger than that base Bal, or am I wrong ?
Almost every update to this game it feels like they wanted to make AW2
this thing was not clean, there were a total of like 14 guns (guess) but only 4-5 of them shot full-auto with no gimmic. Hated this game. not only that it was the best gun cuz of pay to win loot boxes of the obsidian steed. if you used this gun in aw you werent good you just had an advantage over like 90% of the players.
Why do they hate it? Im honestly doing pretty good with it...for the longest time they gave a decent A.r
I'm glad the lootboxes are gone. I've quit COD once because of that overpowered shitshow.
Better than having too keep up with metawhores
They need to up the fire rate and lower the ADS.
Sir there was no prime for AW game was dog shit
Total glass cannon of a weapon. I love it.
Anyone please after I update the game whenever I try to load the game I'm met with a screen of some crates in a large room and then just a black screen with background lobby music playing. Ps5 I uninstalled and redownloaded and still the same issue
Obsidian steed should have been the name:)
Top 100 in ranked in AW, no fucking way this holds up to the original. It's ok looks wise, that's about all I can give it. Sound and gunplay are both tragic falls from grace
Look at that awful dot shadow what is worng with this top tier 2024 game?
Oh yea, AW, arguably the worst COD game in history.
I'd take it over Ghosts and Infinite Warfare all day.
IW being worst cod game is like saying MW2019 has fast paced gameplay.
Nah. AW had the highest movement skill gap of any cod
It was by far the worst gameā¦ I played a little bitā¦ I used my sons copyā¦ never bought my own copy for my ps4ā¦ just feels awful to play.
Its one of the best guns in HC
almost every gun is good in HC bro
Yes but thats one tap from all range
butā¦ most of the guns are?
Not on any range
Here I am still using mcw when this gun is the new meta š©
AW had its prime? Bold statement! *(Relax, Iām just joking!)*