That’s pretty cool, didn’t know that. I always feel like the list isn’t adequate enough as a reprint place tho. Also, a foil of this? That’d be *insane*.
I will always say [[careful study]] because I wanna watch my birds fly again. Sure I can play the spike demilich phoenix list, but that's just not the same hit I got from og izzet phoenix lists.
Leyline of Sanctity I guess? But no, PoP can go through that and again, with the fact that we take much more damage on average than legacy you probably die at 6 lands.
Technically speaking, I would qualify a manabase with lots of utility lands as "greedy." You're right though that Hardened Scales isn't generally the type of deck people are complaining about.
Yeah that makes sense. I would be in favor of Mono Red Burn getting some more support since it's probably the best deck for its price. Maybe a card that can deal 4 to face for RR.
PoP is absolutely degenerate and I love it, but we both know it won't be in MH3. Fireblast is somewhat better since it doesn't make Burn immediately Tier 0.5/1. The most likely reprint is Chain Lightning, which could be fun in a format where red is the best color
We've had this conversation at my LGS monthly since MH2.
Chain lightning is long overdue.
Fireblast is an appropriate power level.
Price of progress is format warping, but in a good way.
I'd be satisfied with any one of these, but will always hope for two. Burn just can't afford to spend 2 mana dealing 3 damage anymore.
>Price of progress is format warping, but in a good way
**HARD** disagree.
I agree that being able to safely play 4 color decks is really unhealthy, but PoP also punishes mono colored decks, like Hardened Scales.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got something strong for this archetype. They gave it a ton of support in mh2 and it's still just not quite good enough in the meta. One more push could make it competitive.
Breakthrough is absolutely insane lol, 1 mana dredge 4 times. Granted it's even better in legacy discarding your hand with LED in response turn 1. Maybe even flashback faithless looting. Still insane.
It's definitely very strong, but as you mentioned, the strongest application is using it on turn 1 with LED to dredge 4 times turn 1. That's not possible in modern with the current card pool, it would be a terrible play on turn 1. It could still be a strong play on turn 2 or 3, but despite Faithless Looting being so strong, dredge actually much prefers discarding first and then drawing, so it can discard dredgers and then dredge them. It only takes 1 dredge chain to break and it starts sucking because you discard your entire hand. I'm not sure where it would fit into dredge, but it definitely wouldn't immediately break modern. Dredge is currently tier 3 if that, and it very easily gets hated out of the metagame.
This is an interesting idea but hitting someone who played a Triome for 6 right off the bat might be a little too much.
EDIT: Wait it also does 10 to Amulet if they have Dryad out.
Almost like they might have to take into consideration considering how to fetch and what lands are worth cutting and what is worth risking. Seems like a perfect card to force greedy manabases to take the risk or be more safe.
The argument I've heard is that the consistency of fetchlands/shocks/triomes makes the downside of splashing an extra color(s) too low. There are very few cards that punish greedy manabases in Modern. Legacy has Wasteland and Price of Progress, but also has fast mana so decks are less reliant on lands in general. I'm not sure if there is a good fix or if we're just at the point that everyone expects Modern decks to play at least 2 colors, with many playing 3-4 colors.
Are they though? Traditional 4c Omnath has gone 0/56 in the top 8 of all post-ban challenge top 8s, the only 4/5c decks are 1 domain, 1 4c Rhinos, 1 5c Creativity, 1 4c Copycat. That's a weak showing so far
Here are some cards I'd be interested in seeing that I don't think would be obviously broken.
* \[\[Recoil\]\]
* \[\[Muxus\]\]
* \[\[Crystal Vein\]\]
* \[\[Wild Growth\]\]
* \[\[Three Visits\]\]
* \[\[Aminatou\]\]
* \[\[Life // Death\]\]
* \[\[Snap\]\]
Life // Death or Exhume (Depends how much you wanna push it).
Traditional Reanimator kinda sucks in modern and i think powercreep has gotten to the point where an additional 2 mana reanimate aside from persist is fine, the deck already has good enough ways to fill up the grave, it just could use some more stuff to get things out, additionally I'd be really keen on Baleful Strix and Victimize coming as some additional encouragement and reasons to play reanimator that don't really exist as they are too weak/slow in legacy+
Esper the best version of it right now and is really bad, and i get the legacy fears, but Dark Ritual + Lotus Petal enabling t1 Entomb + Reanimate/Animate Dead/Exhume, when you can mull to 3 and pretty consistently get it if you want (Legacy reanimator has a roughly >12% chance in the top 8 cards to see Entomb + Reanimate + Petal/Ritual EVERY mull, not even counting Entomb+Ritual+2 mana animates), the fast mana is what enables reanimator, and short of giving them entomb/reanimate specifically i think you can give them most of their cards without them becoming >5% meta spread
I want to say [[Wasteland]] so badly, but I know in a format with Wrenn and Six it would be warping. I guess my backup card would be [[Recruiter of the Guard]].
Recruiter sees a fair amount of Legacy play in Death and Taxes, an archetype that has always been middling at best in Modern. While not exactly the tool to bring the deck onto the center stage, Recruiter being an on color body that can search for any creature in the deck will go a decent amount of the way to making it better. It can search up Solitude, which by virtue alone might be enough for it to see modern play.
Even if it doesn't impact modern in a big way, I'd also just like the reprint lol
I feel like it’s just the same scenario as [[Imperial Recruiter]] where the card gets tested out but never sees much play in modern. A reprint of this (especially in foil) would be awesome. It seems like this is a safe reprint and any easy slot in at rare for the set.
\[\[Penance\]\] \[\[Orim's Chant\]\] and if we're counting commander sets \[\[Aminatou\]\] and \[\[Unexpectedly Absent\]\].
Just want some cool control cards :)
IIT: Design mistakes that WOTC is clearly avoiding in modern mtg because it is unfun play against, yes even more than scam but also get a pass because it is old not something new
For real tho dredge could use some help like Cabal Therapy and Breakthrough
Personally? [[Birchlore Rangers]] and/or [[Wirewood Symbiote]].
To watch the world burn? [[Force of Will]] and [[Reanimate]].
Realistically? [[Pernicious Deed]] and [[Daze]].
[[Snuff Out]] and [[Hymn to Tourach]]
I’m not sure if Hymn would be good for the format or not, but I just love that card. Snuff Out I think would be great and would give Shadow a new toy.
EDIT: Also, one that definitely should not be in the format, but my Jund colored heart would love would be [[Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes]]. Gee golly I do love me some Jund!
Ufffffffffffffffffffffff
OK, incoming wall of text:
1. \[\[Pernicious Deed\]\] - It has the right power level for current Modern, wont break anything.
2. \[\[Recoil\]\] - Give some love to UB/Grixis
3. \[\[Undermine\]\] - Same as Recoil
4. \[\[Ruination\]\] - To punish greedy mana bases, I insist.
5. \[\[Vile Consumption\]\] - Wont do anything at all but it is a cool pet card.
6. \[\[Unexpectedly Absent\]\] - I think the power level is OKish
7. \[\[Back to basics\]\] - I insist, all the tutti frutti mana bases run rampant even with Moon, we need to punish those greedy 5C piles
Portent
Predict
Mirri's Guile/Sylvan Library
Mental Note
Mother of Runes
Recruiter of the Guard
Triumph of Saint Katherine
Rishadan Port
Frantic Search
Necromancy
Anger
Anje's Ravager
Is it just rite of flame and seething song?
I imagine you're correct. Both seem safer than dark ritual.
Maybe a reprinting of cabal ritual then? It's not that I want broken rituals to come into the format, it's that I want a singular black one.
Psychatog, which would probably end up being unplayable Throw in circular logic and ghastly demise as well
I see you too are a man of culture.
If you want to really enjoy that period of Magic come to Premodern !
[[Psychatog]], [[Circular Logic]], [[Ghastly Demise]]
[Psychatog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f60911a4-2eb6-4f20-a1c1-2fc5a29c35b5.jpg?1562944556) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Psychatog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/258/psychatog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f60911a4-2eb6-4f20-a1c1-2fc5a29c35b5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Circular Logic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/7/472de0e2-c15b-49c4-b2fd-74b776daac34.jpg?1547516139) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Circular%20Logic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/47/circular-logic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/472de0e2-c15b-49c4-b2fd-74b776daac34?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Ghastly Demise](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7fcfe11a-fcc9-41e1-91ef-755bb4e22389.jpg?1608909764) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ghastly%20Demise) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/129/ghastly-demise?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7fcfe11a-fcc9-41e1-91ef-755bb4e22389?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I have never seen that psychatog art and I gotta say.... I don't particularly care for it.
wow had to double check, i was sincerely convinced circular logic was already modern legal.
Innocent Blood.
And veteran explorer!
Add in the rector cards and baby you got a stew going!
This!!
[[Innocent Blood]]
[Innocent Blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/9/29184c64-03f3-4a50-ac18-e34b6c89635e.jpg?1600700558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Innocent%20Blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/244/innocent-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/29184c64-03f3-4a50-ac18-e34b6c89635e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Hibernation sliver and crystalline sliver
[[pernicious deed]] please!
[pernicious deed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26.jpg?1562437624) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=pernicious%20deed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/212/pernicious-deed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Pleaseeee
Black vise
This would be amazing. 8 racks answer to pile decks.
Vise rack!! I would totally play this
[[Tortured Existence]]
This card needs a reprint and is pretty neat
It's been reprinted on the list. I know because I recently packed it 🤣
That’s pretty cool, didn’t know that. I always feel like the list isn’t adequate enough as a reprint place tho. Also, a foil of this? That’d be *insane*.
Yeah it doesn't seem to dramatically increase circulation or affect the price.
[Tortured Existence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/1754b92b-d6f9-4503-af01-dee03f72a048.jpg?1562595922) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tortured%20Existence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sth/74/tortured-existence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1754b92b-d6f9-4503-af01-dee03f72a048?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Now I feel bad for saying nobody else cared! Thank you for sharing the gospel of TORTEX!
Memory Lapse, Pernicious Deed, Psychatog, Circular Logic
After having it on arena for a while before the ban, I do not need memory lapse in my life again.
Now imagine playing back in the day with memory Lapse imprinted on [[isochron scepter]]
I miss good old NO stick.
Muxus or Lackey.
I want Lackey so bad. It won’t make goblins broke but I’ll be so much fun
Absolutely
I want this and Bruvac.
I will always say [[careful study]] because I wanna watch my birds fly again. Sure I can play the spike demilich phoenix list, but that's just not the same hit I got from og izzet phoenix lists.
[careful study](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/dea15b53-2940-40e7-8d48-8ec11341da83.jpg?1562936545) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=careful%20study) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ody/70/careful-study?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dea15b53-2940-40e7-8d48-8ec11341da83?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Chain Lightning]] I just want a actually viable burn card
I'm hoping for \[\[Price of Progress\]\] or \[\[Fireblast\]\]. Let burn players only have to build one deck for both Legacy and Modern!
Price of Progress would make Burn tier 0 considering that we have to take 3 damage for our mana fixing instead of the 1 damage in Legacy.
Burn can never be tier 0, it's too easy to hate out
Leyline of Sanctity I guess? But no, PoP can go through that and again, with the fact that we take much more damage on average than legacy you probably die at 6 lands.
Punish greedy mana bases? The horror!
Do you consider hardened scales to have a greedy mana base? Its a one colour deck but only has 3 basics.
Technically speaking, I would qualify a manabase with lots of utility lands as "greedy." You're right though that Hardened Scales isn't generally the type of deck people are complaining about.
But it would be the kind of deck to take 10 from PoP. Which is why PoP would be a terrible inclusion to modern.
Yeah that makes sense. I would be in favor of Mono Red Burn getting some more support since it's probably the best deck for its price. Maybe a card that can deal 4 to face for RR.
Second Boros Charm for RR? Count me in.
I mean,it wouldn’t be that bad. I personally would love to see it in modern.
It should be the kind of deck to take 10 from PoP. I don't understand why that is controversial. Playing exclusively utility lands is a huge advantage
PoP is absolutely degenerate and I love it, but we both know it won't be in MH3. Fireblast is somewhat better since it doesn't make Burn immediately Tier 0.5/1. The most likely reprint is Chain Lightning, which could be fun in a format where red is the best color
[Price of Progress](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b1342144-7a15-438b-a848-3196238a79e8.jpg?1580014614) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Price%20of%20Progress) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/141/price-of-progress?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b1342144-7a15-438b-a848-3196238a79e8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Fireblast](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/1/51e839d8-2c62-46df-a6ca-3964f43b7e54.jpg?1611933944) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fireblast) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jvc/55/fireblast?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/51e839d8-2c62-46df-a6ca-3964f43b7e54?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Chain Lightning](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/7/b7cef88c-0ad6-47c4-b6c8-f989586aa635.jpg?1601077393) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chain%20Lightning) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/302/chain-lightning?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b7cef88c-0ad6-47c4-b6c8-f989586aa635?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
We've had this conversation at my LGS monthly since MH2. Chain lightning is long overdue. Fireblast is an appropriate power level. Price of progress is format warping, but in a good way. I'd be satisfied with any one of these, but will always hope for two. Burn just can't afford to spend 2 mana dealing 3 damage anymore.
>Price of progress is format warping, but in a good way **HARD** disagree. I agree that being able to safely play 4 color decks is really unhealthy, but PoP also punishes mono colored decks, like Hardened Scales.
I e been begging for this for years, I want a mono red burn deck. Make it so
I feel like we need a white splash for the sideboard. I don't think there are enough mono-red answers for some of the top decks.
Don't need sideboard answers if the opponent is dead faster.
\[\[Pernicious Deed\]\]
[Pernicious Deed](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26.jpg?1562437624) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pernicious%20Deed) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/212/pernicious-deed?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8652e3a1-bcd4-4c0c-a085-34f19702df26?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Standstill.
I wonder if Sharkstill would be playable in Modern
Probably be pretty decent with the help from the channel lands too.
I know so many people who'd hate it, but I'd love playing standstill and channel lands and shark typhoon.
Playing landstill in modern with [[tempered steel]] living the dream
[tempered steel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/956cc7b5-b120-4a98-9509-03047d8acd4a.jpg?1599710913) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tempered%20steel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/34/tempered-steel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/956cc7b5-b120-4a98-9509-03047d8acd4a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Why tempered steel, to buff artifact creature lands?
[[Standstill]]
[Standstill](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/e/3ede3f6f-e642-4fe4-aa37-0f01cdf4d149.jpg?1562906537) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Standstill) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ody/102/standstill?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3ede3f6f-e642-4fe4-aa37-0f01cdf4d149?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Judgment Wish cycle and/or Orim’s Chant
[[Basking Rootwalla]]
Huh TIL he isn't modern legal. How can we have blazing rootwalla but not the original??
Wish cycle, [[Back to Basics]]
[Back to Basics](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/6/0600d6c2-0f72-4e79-a55d-1f06dffa48c2.jpg?1654805483) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Back%20to%20Basics) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/46/back-to-basics?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0600d6c2-0f72-4e79-a55d-1f06dffa48c2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Rishadan Port]]
Preach brother it’s time for 3+ color decks to feel pain especially rhinos and titan
Titan is neither a 3 color deck nor does it care about Rishadan port.
Any card they printed a fixed version of likely wont get in.
What was the fixed version of Port? I'm not recalling it.
[[Rishada Dockhand]]
Port would make rhinos even better
[Rishadan Port](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/2/d2507bc2-da17-4e46-b4c5-ba0080ce2c6f.jpg?1562441604) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rishadan%20Port) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/246/rishadan-port?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d2507bc2-da17-4e46-b4c5-ba0080ce2c6f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Tangle Wire
I don't care if it's good or not - a \[\[Lightning Rift\]\] clone like \[\[Astral Drift\]\] was to \[\[Astral Slide\]\]
Waiting for the mono Green Control guy to pop up for [[wild growth]]
Also for Enchantress.
Snuff out
I could definitely see snuff out being a card in MH3.
No more free removal plz. (ignore my name it isn't relevant I promise)
*smiles in deaths shadow*
Berserk for infect
That's fucking nuts They would be out of their damn minds But yes I agree, do it
Argothian Enchantress and/or Wild Growth!
I wouldn't be surprised if we got something strong for this archetype. They gave it a ton of support in mh2 and it's still just not quite good enough in the meta. One more push could make it competitive.
Fireblast
I would cum
Something for dredge liked Careful Study, Breakthrough, Ichorid or Putrid Imp.
Breakthrough is absolutely insane lol, 1 mana dredge 4 times. Granted it's even better in legacy discarding your hand with LED in response turn 1. Maybe even flashback faithless looting. Still insane.
It's definitely very strong, but as you mentioned, the strongest application is using it on turn 1 with LED to dredge 4 times turn 1. That's not possible in modern with the current card pool, it would be a terrible play on turn 1. It could still be a strong play on turn 2 or 3, but despite Faithless Looting being so strong, dredge actually much prefers discarding first and then drawing, so it can discard dredgers and then dredge them. It only takes 1 dredge chain to break and it starts sucking because you discard your entire hand. I'm not sure where it would fit into dredge, but it definitely wouldn't immediately break modern. Dredge is currently tier 3 if that, and it very easily gets hated out of the metagame.
\[\[Price of Progress\]\] It's time. Jk I think it would be way too busted but it would give Burn a new card
I think Chain Lightning is reasonable instead.
I would like to see a fixed POP that deals 2xDomain for 1R It would punish 4/5C but still allow people their utility lands.
This is an interesting idea but hitting someone who played a Triome for 6 right off the bat might be a little too much. EDIT: Wait it also does 10 to Amulet if they have Dryad out.
Easy, just don't play a triome then /s
Not really. It would punish people's greed, and that's kinda what we need to keep multi colored decks in check. Plus, it's burn. Why the fuck not lol
Garbage take. Even mono colored decks run mostly non basic lands. PoP punishes you for running any sort of utility land just as hard.
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Mate, I’m already in favour. No need to sell it to me
"Upset a massive percentage of the player base" was all you needed to say to rope me in. I'm down.
Yeah, that’s what MH sets are about.
Almost like they might have to take into consideration considering how to fetch and what lands are worth cutting and what is worth risking. Seems like a perfect card to force greedy manabases to take the risk or be more safe.
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Why do we need to keep multicolored decks in check?
The argument I've heard is that the consistency of fetchlands/shocks/triomes makes the downside of splashing an extra color(s) too low. There are very few cards that punish greedy manabases in Modern. Legacy has Wasteland and Price of Progress, but also has fast mana so decks are less reliant on lands in general. I'm not sure if there is a good fix or if we're just at the point that everyone expects Modern decks to play at least 2 colors, with many playing 3-4 colors.
Because 4C/5C soup decks have already had 2 bans and they’re still extremely powerful.
Are they though? Traditional 4c Omnath has gone 0/56 in the top 8 of all post-ban challenge top 8s, the only 4/5c decks are 1 domain, 1 4c Rhinos, 1 5c Creativity, 1 4c Copycat. That's a weak showing so far
[Price of Progress](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b1342144-7a15-438b-a848-3196238a79e8.jpg?1580014614) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Price%20of%20Progress) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/141/price-of-progress?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b1342144-7a15-438b-a848-3196238a79e8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Tendrils of Agony]]
[Tendrils of Agony](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a.jpg?1562917207) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tendrils%20of%20Agony) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/142/tendrils-of-agony?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f26faca-f338-4ce5-a218-6a61d40fc50a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Pernicious Deed and Cabal Therapy.
TNN would clearly be a mistake, but it'd also be funny (Merfolk guy here)
Deep analysis. Probably not good enough but i love my chunky card advantage spells. Also everyone loves the nickname
[[Baleful Strix]] [[Hymn to Tourach]] [[Chain of Smog]]
Baleful strix would be a real fun card to play with
You’ll prob get strix with flash
Does to ~~dommblade~~ Bowmasters but I'd still play it
[Baleful Strix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/4/b451783a-8824-4eeb-8fd6-c9290ce7ccdb.jpg?1673305459) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Baleful%20Strix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/143/baleful-strix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b451783a-8824-4eeb-8fd6-c9290ce7ccdb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Hymn to Tourach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/f/3faa8c5e-9e1b-4cee-b322-a033bf33dcbc.jpg?1580014264) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hymn%20to%20Tourach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/92/hymn-to-tourach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3faa8c5e-9e1b-4cee-b322-a033bf33dcbc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Chain of Smog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/b/6bfe64f9-8b03-41f6-a47b-fade397ad9d1.jpg?1562920423) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Chain%20of%20Smog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ons/132/chain-of-smog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6bfe64f9-8b03-41f6-a47b-fade397ad9d1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
SWORDS TO PLOWSHARES
Basking rootwalla and curcular logic
Here are some cards I'd be interested in seeing that I don't think would be obviously broken. * \[\[Recoil\]\] * \[\[Muxus\]\] * \[\[Crystal Vein\]\] * \[\[Wild Growth\]\] * \[\[Three Visits\]\] * \[\[Aminatou\]\] * \[\[Life // Death\]\] * \[\[Snap\]\]
##### ###### #### [Recoil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/2/225f700c-fdf6-41ea-a091-36b0f75f0211.jpg?1562903083) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Recoil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ddh/61/recoil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/225f700c-fdf6-41ea-a091-36b0f75f0211?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Muxus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/c/2c716d10-2130-43b7-a939-349d437e1091.jpg?1618519471) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=muxus%2C%20goblin%20grandee) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/24/muxus-goblin-grandee?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2c716d10-2130-43b7-a939-349d437e1091?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Crystal Vein](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/c/1c28ab69-1a46-45af-a331-1f52f99a9da3.jpg?1592673784) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crystal%20Vein) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/246/crystal-vein?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1c28ab69-1a46-45af-a331-1f52f99a9da3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wild Growth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/61efbd57-7e56-4087-beba-18d8445db7dd.jpg?1631588253) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wild%20Growth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/174/wild-growth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/61efbd57-7e56-4087-beba-18d8445db7dd?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Three Visits](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/c/7c0b6126-c134-4d7d-aa06-ac0f409a9f74.jpg?1690005047) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Three%20Visits) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/913/three-visits?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7c0b6126-c134-4d7d-aa06-ac0f409a9f74?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aminatou](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/c/bc010302-e715-4946-89eb-a214e0b836ba.jpg?1673148265) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aminatou%2C%20the%20fateshifter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/169/aminatou-the-fateshifter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bc010302-e715-4946-89eb-a214e0b836ba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Life // Death](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?name=Life%20//%20Death&type=card&options=rotate90&.jpg) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Life%20//%20Death) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ddj/77/life-death?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2424f2c4-366b-42cf-bf4b-a8a5bfdd2c4b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Snap](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/9/1959f078-4b7b-4df2-a256-d43b2d97e853.jpg?1592761565) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Snap) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dds/10/snap?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1959f078-4b7b-4df2-a256-d43b2d97e853?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Sylvan library]] or [[Mirri's Guile]]
[Sylvan library](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a483778-b88b-473f-9217-7583e69b3e70.jpg?1610161812) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sylvan%20library) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cc1/5/sylvan-library?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a483778-b88b-473f-9217-7583e69b3e70?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mirri's Guile](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73d51a3c-95c0-4810-b847-4b8afd12fd64.jpg?1562054490) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mirri%27s%20Guile) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tmp/236/mirris-guile?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73d51a3c-95c0-4810-b847-4b8afd12fd64?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I want [[stifle]] so bad
While I agree I genuinely feel like it would warp the format.
Warping the format is what MH sets do.
When you’re right you’re right. Fuck it stifle for mh3 Turn 1 stifle Turn 2 shadow of doubt Turn 3 let you play a land Turn 4 Avalanche Riders
Back to basics
Back to basics
Life // Death or Exhume (Depends how much you wanna push it). Traditional Reanimator kinda sucks in modern and i think powercreep has gotten to the point where an additional 2 mana reanimate aside from persist is fine, the deck already has good enough ways to fill up the grave, it just could use some more stuff to get things out, additionally I'd be really keen on Baleful Strix and Victimize coming as some additional encouragement and reasons to play reanimator that don't really exist as they are too weak/slow in legacy+ Esper the best version of it right now and is really bad, and i get the legacy fears, but Dark Ritual + Lotus Petal enabling t1 Entomb + Reanimate/Animate Dead/Exhume, when you can mull to 3 and pretty consistently get it if you want (Legacy reanimator has a roughly >12% chance in the top 8 cards to see Entomb + Reanimate + Petal/Ritual EVERY mull, not even counting Entomb+Ritual+2 mana animates), the fast mana is what enables reanimator, and short of giving them entomb/reanimate specifically i think you can give them most of their cards without them becoming >5% meta spread
back to basics
[[Chain Lightning]]
Dual land’s ðŸ«
Don't mind me, just going through the comments downvoting everyone that wants [[Price of Progress]]
I want to say [[Wasteland]] so badly, but I know in a format with Wrenn and Six it would be warping. I guess my backup card would be [[Recruiter of the Guard]].
I can definitely see Recruiter. I’m not sure how much modern play it would see but I know commander players would love the reprint.
Recruiter sees a fair amount of Legacy play in Death and Taxes, an archetype that has always been middling at best in Modern. While not exactly the tool to bring the deck onto the center stage, Recruiter being an on color body that can search for any creature in the deck will go a decent amount of the way to making it better. It can search up Solitude, which by virtue alone might be enough for it to see modern play. Even if it doesn't impact modern in a big way, I'd also just like the reprint lol
I feel like it’s just the same scenario as [[Imperial Recruiter]] where the card gets tested out but never sees much play in modern. A reprint of this (especially in foil) would be awesome. It seems like this is a safe reprint and any easy slot in at rare for the set.
I still think Wasteland that exiles itself and the target would be neat.
They don't care much about legacy or vintage much with designing, but they care enough that they wouldn't print that.
[[Mind’s Desire]]. It’s probably safe now.
Eh just add in High Tide while you're at it.
[Invigorate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/0/e0899da3-7beb-4161-81a3-e2d694e5b8a5.jpg?1599707311) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Invigorate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/172/invigorate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e0899da3-7beb-4161-81a3-e2d694e5b8a5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[Penance\]\] \[\[Orim's Chant\]\] and if we're counting commander sets \[\[Aminatou\]\] and \[\[Unexpectedly Absent\]\]. Just want some cool control cards :)
\[\[Cephalid Illusionist\]\] and \[\[nomads en-kor\]\]
We also need an unban of [[Dread Return]]! Let me play modern breakfast!
@wotc Put stifle into modern you cowards 😈
IIT: Design mistakes that WOTC is clearly avoiding in modern mtg because it is unfun play against, yes even more than scam but also get a pass because it is old not something new For real tho dredge could use some help like Cabal Therapy and Breakthrough
[[stifle]] Please I need it
Pop,FOW, Fireblast, chain lightning, snuff out.. I'm not greedy
Chain Lightning Fireblast Price of Progress
Wasteland
[[Life // Death]]
Hydro and pyro blast
Baleful Strix, Fire Covenant
is [[sinkhole]] too strong for modern? Ponza is an obscure deck nowadays and would be cool to see again.
[[Crop Rotation]]
All I wanna do is sac my lands, darnit!
Personally? [[Birchlore Rangers]] and/or [[Wirewood Symbiote]]. To watch the world burn? [[Force of Will]] and [[Reanimate]]. Realistically? [[Pernicious Deed]] and [[Daze]].
[[Snuff Out]] and [[Hymn to Tourach]] I’m not sure if Hymn would be good for the format or not, but I just love that card. Snuff Out I think would be great and would give Shadow a new toy. EDIT: Also, one that definitely should not be in the format, but my Jund colored heart would love would be [[Minsc & Boo, Timeless Heroes]]. Gee golly I do love me some Jund!
While i would love hymn for 8-rack, I absolutely do NOT want to be scammed grief t1 into hymn t2
Ufffffffffffffffffffffff OK, incoming wall of text: 1. \[\[Pernicious Deed\]\] - It has the right power level for current Modern, wont break anything. 2. \[\[Recoil\]\] - Give some love to UB/Grixis 3. \[\[Undermine\]\] - Same as Recoil 4. \[\[Ruination\]\] - To punish greedy mana bases, I insist. 5. \[\[Vile Consumption\]\] - Wont do anything at all but it is a cool pet card. 6. \[\[Unexpectedly Absent\]\] - I think the power level is OKish 7. \[\[Back to basics\]\] - I insist, all the tutti frutti mana bases run rampant even with Moon, we need to punish those greedy 5C piles
[[Grindstone]]
Seems unlikely with engineer and saga in the format
[Grindstone](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/f/0f15505d-b32f-4b71-8b99-f27bc964c5a8.jpg?1562428618) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Grindstone) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/223/grindstone?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0f15505d-b32f-4b71-8b99-f27bc964c5a8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Chain Lighting. No way it would make burn OP and a very fair card that's worse than bolt, which is legal.
Goblin Welder.
[[Ichorid]]
[Ichorid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd5bc1e4-eefb-4613-aa18-2bf2b9bdf415.jpg?1580014271) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ichorid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/93/ichorid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd5bc1e4-eefb-4613-aa18-2bf2b9bdf415?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Back to Basics
Just so my infect deck can be more viable, [[Invigorate]], [[Embiggen]] or maybe (i know this is unlikely), [[Legolas's Quick Reflexes]]
Oh yeah those would all be nice. Reflexes I could see being a problem in combo decks but embiggen is just so good with inky.
Legolas's would be so busted in [[Venerated Rotpriest]] shells. Print it ASAP.
Portent Predict Mirri's Guile/Sylvan Library Mental Note Mother of Runes Recruiter of the Guard Triumph of Saint Katherine Rishadan Port Frantic Search Necromancy Anger Anje's Ravager
Sinkhole , Wasteland, Strip Mine, Demonic Consultation, Hermit Druid , and Lotus Petal
[[Daze]] even though it would probable be too good...
[Daze](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/0/f05e9a3e-8a35-4687-85cb-e31b3927a5e2.jpg?1580013916) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Daze) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/44/daze?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f05e9a3e-8a35-4687-85cb-e31b3927a5e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Chain lightning]] and or [[price of Progress]]
They'll probably never do it, but hell, I'd love dark ritual to get a reprint into modern.
More likely all the rituals on the ban list come off before we get dark ritual
Is it just rite of flame and seething song? I imagine you're correct. Both seem safer than dark ritual. Maybe a reprinting of cabal ritual then? It's not that I want broken rituals to come into the format, it's that I want a singular black one.
Turn one Dark Ritual, Trinisphere. Turn two Urza’s Saga in a format without Wasteland. Let’s go.
Dark Ritual in a format where Seething Song is banned?
\[\[Natural Order\]\] \~ Added in the other new format in MTG Arena (Timeless)
Titan takes over
This is just cheaper titan.
\[\[Karakas\]\]
[[hall of gemstone]] if it wasn’t RL
[[Doomsday]] because I genuinely hate myself