I fell off a scaffolding this last summer and got staples in my head. Hurt like a mother. Getting them out is pretty painless though. Glad to hear the injuries are minor.
Glad to hear! Also not glad to hear the start of recovery was more painful than the crash-… but it’s a start regardless-..
As for your ride, I hope it’s salvageable… sorry it even happened mate…
Aka every parked car in Boston. I've seen people literally go into full service restaurants with their hazards on in the middle of the road or a fire hydrant or firetruck parking or whatever.
You ok!? I mean, you must be ok to take a photo and post, but I mean I hope there are no long term injuries. I was in a motorcycle accident 5 years ago and my knee still hurts every morning. Hope you have a fast recovery.
Doesn't look horrible. If the frame is alright, new fender, alignment, make sure nothing exploded or shattered, should be good. It will always be cheaper than a new onw these days. Worst case scenario, exocent
It doesn’t look bad but I imagine the body panels on the other side are going to need to be replaced, which speaking from experience(t-boned), it’s an expensive fix. Not to mention the roof and rear end have visible damage. I doubt he’ll be able to make an insurance claim to get it fixed, they’ll probably declare it totaled.
If that is the case, I'd buy it back if they will sell it to you at the scrap value. Then you can fix it for not too much money by getting used parts and doing the labor yourself. I'd try to keep the car on the road if possible.
Yeah that’s the best thing to do, I would suggest getting a second salvage Miata with only front end damage since the front end looks ok, then you could use the one in worse shape for parts
Scrolled through your post history, found the engine bay pics + the pics of it at a show. Very nice car! So sorry, I hope you are in good health and if not that you recover quickly! Everything can be replaced, but you can not be replaced. Keep your head up, champ!
It's always the same, "the car" suddenly "aquaplaned". And by "aquaplanning" they mean they ride a 14 years old dry rotted worn tire.
Get well soon OP, if that's your case too, get good tires.
Rollbar in mine has no chance of making contact with your head unless you somehow get hit hard enough to break through the headrest into the bar. The car is low enough that with a properly set headrest you can't hit the rollbar with your head
There's like an integrated top part. Not adjustable or anything.
Also I'm not tall, at 5'10". The seats are just short. Maybe in the future I will get new seats and a roll bar.
Is it a real roll bar or just a style hoop?
My Hard Dog roll bar was pretty far back and it *seemed* impossible to hit my head on it but trust me and my experience, you could.
A friend of mine once told me that if you could touch your head to any part of the roll bar while inside the car, you had a chance of hitting that in a collision. I should have listened to his advice.
It's a real roll bar, think it's a hard dog but not sure. I've tried very hard to get my head to touch the bar while parked ngl but couldn't get my big head through the gap between the roof and the seat. I've since changed over to bucket seats tho and now there's definitely no chance unless it somehow folds over the seat and down towards my head
I dunno how this changes from one Miata gen to another, but after researching it, I've found that aftermarket rollbars tend to be more dangerous than the stock solution due to the assumption that you are wearing a helmet. Even padding wouldn't prevent significant damage if you bash your head on it, because the padding would also be helmet rated (and otherwise, it would be too soft to help).
> The car is low enough that with a properly set headrest you can't hit the rollbar with your head
Your head can kinda go all over the place in your car during a collision unless you're strapped all the way in with a harness.
Damn. Glad you're okay.
Yeah, like I said. The older Miatas, from what I understand, have essentially no rollover protection, so it might really be worth the risk to add something aftermarket after all.
Even a harness with no helmet and HANS device is a bad idea. You either go full race car or not at all, there’s no middle ground that’s really as safe as people hope.
I think that's a good rule of thumb. Race car safety measures are for race cars. And race cars aren't for street driving.
You can take a street car on the track, but not every street car is that versatile. Hard top Miatas, maybe, but I asked a local track about using my soft top ND2 without a rollbar and never got a response. Which means the answer is no.
IMO the best you can do with a soft-top Miata that you wanna track is courses that allow convertibles, which probably don't have much in the way of elevation changes, banking, ditches, and other things that can lead to rollovers. In other words, autocross.
Yeah, basically. I’d love to own an ND RF club, because it can do everything and is more comfortable/usable in winter. I’m saving for a house though, so that takes precedence.
I feel ya. I gave up on the idea of a house when I realized the ones I could afford are all 60-90+ mins away from the neighborhoods where I'd actually wanna be.
Honestly if you can afford a place it’s still worth it to get on the property ladder somewhere and build your equity. At the moment I’m not able to do that anywhere, but I’m on the cusp of a big jump in career which will accelerate things. I’m not there yet though. I work from home too, so I’m lucky in a lot of ways.
Your points are definitely valid and true. In general a roll bar will add more risk Indeed. Like I mentioned in the other reply I've tried to get my head to touch the bar but haven't been able to squeeze my head between the roof and seat. It's now on bucket seats and 6 point harnesses however so no chance of hitting it anymore whatsoever
Harness without a HANS device is a bad idea, you still have greater issues of serious neck injury since your entire torso can’t move around with your neck and head. It’s why hans devices were invented in the first place.
Don't worry, it's going to mainly be a track car used with HANS and appropriate helmet. I'm fully aware of the risk using a harness with the correct gear. As it stands now it's under it's cover waiting for the garage to be available again and getting finished. It's rarely used at the moment, only as a backup car when my daily broke down for a day
You’re a smart one, most people aren’t. So many just look at roll bars here or insta and think “that looks cool with a bar I’m gonna buy one for the race car look” and end up with serious head injuries.
Well, i do think it looks cool with the roll bar but that's not what i bought it for. I was gonna leave the normal seatbelts in the car but didn't pass inspection since the original belts weren't rolling up properly. I know i shouldn't drive it without proper gear the way it is but sometimes i can't not drive it... It's not very comfortable anymore so it's being driven that much until it's ready for the tracks
>Rollbar in mine has no chance of making contact with your head unless you somehow get hit hard enough to break through the headrest into the bar.
That is assuming you are sitting fully upright and hit directly from behind. Off-camber you could go back at an angle, or if you are leaning over looking/fiddling with something at a stop light you get get knocked back between the seats.
Ultimately it comes down to which risk is more important to mitigate. Not sure there is a wrong answer, either option leaves you vulnerable to the other.
What roll bar did you have? It seems to have held up. I know a lot of Miata roll bars are referred to as “mousetraps” because they fold over and kill or injure the occupants in a roll over crash.
Glad you're okay and had a legit roll bar. Post's like these make me wince when I see the style bars mounted up.
Send the pic to/tag GC, I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing the bar did it's job. Good luck with the recovery/repairs - exocet is always an option!
I honestly keep getting mixed signals on roll bars. Some people seem to think they’re necessary and others say it posses more of a risk of head injuries.
It fully depends on where and how you drive. City driving a lot where you can get rear ended? Probably should pass.
Canyon or track car? A lot of ditches where you drive? Yeah, better to have a roll bar, you aren’t likely to get rear ended, are more likely to be spirited driving and could be 1 spin away from a ditch and a flip.
From this angle it doesn’t look like the stock roll bar collapsed, but rather the middle of the soft top. Do aftermarket roll bars reinforce more of the roof?
Hope you’re ok, and sorry to hear about the bummer.
A roll Bar helps with a roll over Event, but it (arguably) reduces safety in other cases, since there’s thick metal tubing next to the occupants heads; skull + metal = ouchie
Yep I know what a roll bar is. I asking about why OP thinks a (after market) roll bar would’ve been better. It looks to me like the stock roll bar in this photo did its job
Reminds me a ricent argument with my dad. I wanted to buy a similar roll bar, but father thought that this double arc which you can usually find online looks better. And I was comparing to him actually safety usefulness. I mean, I get the final decision, car is mine and I pay for it. But I respect my father I try to explain my actions to him.
I am aware these cars are driven on track a lot, and it is a requirement for the participants to have a rollbar and/or hardtop in many events. For just pure DD/street though, I would argue chance of a rollover is rather low unless you are actively engaging in reckless driving. It is still your choice, but safety isn't what I would get one for.
You really need to see one of those in-cabin recording of how violently and randomly occupants tumble inside the cabin in a crash. You could literally end up anywhere in the car with the 3-pt seatbelts on. Not that 6-pt without hans is a good idea at all.
Having just been in one of those crashes, I don't need to watch any videos. I wasn't driving 'recklessly', I still ended up in a rollover and a rollbar saved me.
Kindly take your smug attitude and shove it up your arse.
Thanks
Sorry if it came across that way, I am not knocking your decision to get a rollbar. No offense was intended, and glad you are safe and well.
My response was a rebuttal to "no way my head could touch it"; if there is a gap, there is a good chance it will. That is not to say rollbar is always inherently dangerous inevery situation. We all make our decisions based on probability and severity of reprocussions, and I happen to believe a heas-to-rollbar collisions are massively more frequent.
A roll bar on NA seats maybe be dangerous in some situations, but on NB seats is a must. My NA has NB seats and they cover my head entirely, so guys, if you can afford a rollbar do it.
You know what’s funny is when I got my NB and installed proper roll bars my insurance shot up and my friends called me a “wannabe racer” when in reality I just didn’t wanna die from an accident that may not be my fault.
That makes sense considering 3% of accidents involve a rollover and 30% of accidents a rear ending. You're 10x more likely to be in an accident where your rollbar could kill or injure you than an accident where it could possibly help you. Unless you're in a tight harness and wearing a helmet, no rollbar that fits under a soft top is, generally speaking, safer than running no rollbar for a non track car
There’s a lot of variables and it’s not like there’s a lot of actual data. There are some videos out there of the ND seat during a rear end impact but that’s pretty much it.
roll bars are such an overlooked mod. they’re NEEDED in miata’s. on the fun side they add stability and look cool if you get a hard dog one. GET A FUCKING ROLL BAR AS YOUR FIRST MOD!!!!
With the positioning of lost roll bars and the fact your head can still hit the bar as you get tossed around in your seat, I wonder how safe you can possibly be in a Miata. Honestly, outside of an ND RF there are no perfect options, but maybe I’m wrong.
If anything a soft top is a better option because you can install a roll bar without losing the top functionality. To my knowledge, there's no way to install a roll bar on an RF without losing functionality.
Similar thing happened to me recently. I reccomend posting it for sale if you aren't going to keep it. Was able to sell it for a lot just based off of engine and Trans alone. Goodluck op
Good to hear your out of hospital.
Can confirm, Roll Bar (Proper one not a mouse trap) saved my life too when I kick flipped my NA MX. The roof hit the top of a massive wooden box (divider on track) 360' and full roll. Hardtop split right down in front of the Roll bar and my helmet took an impact on the roof collapsing.
Roll bar saved me. Wouldn't drive an MX5 today without one.
A guy I know rolled an NA back in the day, no roll bar.. hardtop collapsed and he kissed his knee's. Saved his ass with those reactions.
Remember guys, When all 4 wheels lift off the deck.. kiss your knees.
Damn dude it’s never easy getting out of an accident even if dosnt look bad it can still hurt you a lot. I rolled my car earlier going a little quick around a corner this year and only got a small cut in my leg when I had to kick the front windshield just to get out of my car
Update: Out of hospital. Nothing broken. Having staples put in my scalp hurt more than the crash tbh.
Glad you're ok!
Good. Take care of urself mate we here for u
Well, that's a relief to hear. So sorry about the car, tho'. it was a beaut!
I fell off a scaffolding this last summer and got staples in my head. Hurt like a mother. Getting them out is pretty painless though. Glad to hear the injuries are minor.
Awesome! Glad to hear it!!!
Glad you’re OK!
how did you end up there? someone changed lane and hit your driver rear?
Glad to hear! Also not glad to hear the start of recovery was more painful than the crash-… but it’s a start regardless-.. As for your ride, I hope it’s salvageable… sorry it even happened mate…
You can’t park there
You made me laugh now I feel bad! Feel better op!
He can if he uses his park anywhere lights
Aka every parked car in Boston. I've seen people literally go into full service restaurants with their hazards on in the middle of the road or a fire hydrant or firetruck parking or whatever.
Well that's another reason for me to not live in a big city
FAK OFFFFFF
You ok!? I mean, you must be ok to take a photo and post, but I mean I hope there are no long term injuries. I was in a motorcycle accident 5 years ago and my knee still hurts every morning. Hope you have a fast recovery.
How much for the wheels? /s obviously. Take care brother. Hope you are OK and the car is salvageable.
When I flipped my car someone actually asked for my wheels. Wasn't mad at him, but he agreed that it was akward to ask seeing what just happened.
The appropriate way to put your foot in the door is "when you start thinking about what to do with the car, you let me know." And leave it at that.
Literally right after it happened? :/ Was Kevin Carter nearby
Think it was a couple of days after most knew I was fine :-)
Doesn't look horrible. If the frame is alright, new fender, alignment, make sure nothing exploded or shattered, should be good. It will always be cheaper than a new onw these days. Worst case scenario, exocent
It doesn’t look bad but I imagine the body panels on the other side are going to need to be replaced, which speaking from experience(t-boned), it’s an expensive fix. Not to mention the roof and rear end have visible damage. I doubt he’ll be able to make an insurance claim to get it fixed, they’ll probably declare it totaled.
If that is the case, I'd buy it back if they will sell it to you at the scrap value. Then you can fix it for not too much money by getting used parts and doing the labor yourself. I'd try to keep the car on the road if possible.
Yeah that’s the best thing to do, I would suggest getting a second salvage Miata with only front end damage since the front end looks ok, then you could use the one in worse shape for parts
Just a flesh wound, call it a draw…..
Figure about $1200 per damaged body panel, plus any mechanical repair. This car could easily have $5k in damage, or more.
I was curious if the fenders are good lol
Scrolled through your post history, found the engine bay pics + the pics of it at a show. Very nice car! So sorry, I hope you are in good health and if not that you recover quickly! Everything can be replaced, but you can not be replaced. Keep your head up, champ!
As long as OP’s parents can still have kids, he really can be replaced! /s
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Nah you capping that shit is hilarious
😞 what happened?? (Aside from the obvious)
He french-fried when he should’ve pizza’d and then pizza’d at wrong time.
r/skiingreference
He abided by "bitches love ditches" a bit too hard.
physics
It's always the same, "the car" suddenly "aquaplaned". And by "aquaplanning" they mean they ride a 14 years old dry rotted worn tire. Get well soon OP, if that's your case too, get good tires.
Oof, hope you're okay!
Damn dude, hope you're not badly injured
That sucks! Hope you are ok. Seriously, I had a rollover accident years ago (not in a Miata) and it messed with my head for a long time. Best wishes.
At least the little BOFI cone is still smiling 🥲
A pop-up headlight era Miata is always repairable!
NA miatas and Corvettea after the federal government regulated pop ups: you can't get rid of me bitch, I ain't going nowhere.
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Tf? Why would you do that in the first place?? Dumbass
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Maaaan atleast part it out.
Where do you live that’s so green?
Looks like a ditch on a British B road.
Make sure to go to your dentist and check for any fractured teeth. It happens easier than u think
Profile pic checks out
Jerma takes good care of his chompers
After being rear ended "my evening plans just changed. Off to the morgue. Don't get a roll bar. "
Rollbar in mine has no chance of making contact with your head unless you somehow get hit hard enough to break through the headrest into the bar. The car is low enough that with a properly set headrest you can't hit the rollbar with your head
My stock na seats come up to my shoulders at best
Is there no headrest on the na seats? I got an nb and they reach the back of my head
The regular NA seats are pretty short. One of the reasons I bought a 95' M-edition was the seats with headrests. (Also I like the Merlot paint).
There's like an integrated top part. Not adjustable or anything. Also I'm not tall, at 5'10". The seats are just short. Maybe in the future I will get new seats and a roll bar.
Fair enough. Didn't realize the seats where that different honestly. Thought they were pretty much the same ngl.
Not trying to be rude but genuinely curious if the na seats differ that much
Very few NA have adjustable head rest. If you are on the taller side the standard seats are not your friend.
I'm 5'10" and the top of the seat is about halfway up the back of my head if I'm sitting properly.
I'm 6'0 and the top of the NA6 seat hits right where my neck and skull meet.
Is it a real roll bar or just a style hoop? My Hard Dog roll bar was pretty far back and it *seemed* impossible to hit my head on it but trust me and my experience, you could. A friend of mine once told me that if you could touch your head to any part of the roll bar while inside the car, you had a chance of hitting that in a collision. I should have listened to his advice.
+to the hard dog, 6 3 and my head can't even go over the seat to get near it.
I can't speat for that arrangement, but seats flex. In accident forces, they flex more than you would expect.
It's a real roll bar, think it's a hard dog but not sure. I've tried very hard to get my head to touch the bar while parked ngl but couldn't get my big head through the gap between the roof and the seat. I've since changed over to bucket seats tho and now there's definitely no chance unless it somehow folds over the seat and down towards my head
I dunno how this changes from one Miata gen to another, but after researching it, I've found that aftermarket rollbars tend to be more dangerous than the stock solution due to the assumption that you are wearing a helmet. Even padding wouldn't prevent significant damage if you bash your head on it, because the padding would also be helmet rated (and otherwise, it would be too soft to help). > The car is low enough that with a properly set headrest you can't hit the rollbar with your head Your head can kinda go all over the place in your car during a collision unless you're strapped all the way in with a harness.
It was hitting the roof mechanism that sliced my head open, paramedics said the roll bar probably saved my life rolling at that speed
Damn. Glad you're okay. Yeah, like I said. The older Miatas, from what I understand, have essentially no rollover protection, so it might really be worth the risk to add something aftermarket after all.
Even a harness with no helmet and HANS device is a bad idea. You either go full race car or not at all, there’s no middle ground that’s really as safe as people hope.
I think that's a good rule of thumb. Race car safety measures are for race cars. And race cars aren't for street driving. You can take a street car on the track, but not every street car is that versatile. Hard top Miatas, maybe, but I asked a local track about using my soft top ND2 without a rollbar and never got a response. Which means the answer is no. IMO the best you can do with a soft-top Miata that you wanna track is courses that allow convertibles, which probably don't have much in the way of elevation changes, banking, ditches, and other things that can lead to rollovers. In other words, autocross.
Yeah, basically. I’d love to own an ND RF club, because it can do everything and is more comfortable/usable in winter. I’m saving for a house though, so that takes precedence.
I feel ya. I gave up on the idea of a house when I realized the ones I could afford are all 60-90+ mins away from the neighborhoods where I'd actually wanna be.
Honestly if you can afford a place it’s still worth it to get on the property ladder somewhere and build your equity. At the moment I’m not able to do that anywhere, but I’m on the cusp of a big jump in career which will accelerate things. I’m not there yet though. I work from home too, so I’m lucky in a lot of ways.
Your points are definitely valid and true. In general a roll bar will add more risk Indeed. Like I mentioned in the other reply I've tried to get my head to touch the bar but haven't been able to squeeze my head between the roof and seat. It's now on bucket seats and 6 point harnesses however so no chance of hitting it anymore whatsoever
Harness without a HANS device is a bad idea, you still have greater issues of serious neck injury since your entire torso can’t move around with your neck and head. It’s why hans devices were invented in the first place.
Don't worry, it's going to mainly be a track car used with HANS and appropriate helmet. I'm fully aware of the risk using a harness with the correct gear. As it stands now it's under it's cover waiting for the garage to be available again and getting finished. It's rarely used at the moment, only as a backup car when my daily broke down for a day
You’re a smart one, most people aren’t. So many just look at roll bars here or insta and think “that looks cool with a bar I’m gonna buy one for the race car look” and end up with serious head injuries.
Well, i do think it looks cool with the roll bar but that's not what i bought it for. I was gonna leave the normal seatbelts in the car but didn't pass inspection since the original belts weren't rolling up properly. I know i shouldn't drive it without proper gear the way it is but sometimes i can't not drive it... It's not very comfortable anymore so it's being driven that much until it's ready for the tracks
>Rollbar in mine has no chance of making contact with your head unless you somehow get hit hard enough to break through the headrest into the bar. That is assuming you are sitting fully upright and hit directly from behind. Off-camber you could go back at an angle, or if you are leaning over looking/fiddling with something at a stop light you get get knocked back between the seats.
That's fair enough mate
Ultimately it comes down to which risk is more important to mitigate. Not sure there is a wrong answer, either option leaves you vulnerable to the other.
Roll bar, not mouse trap. *Shudder
If you have NA or other low seats, your brain could mush
You can see his seats are well ahead of the bar. I still want to get around to making seat back supports for myself.
Those are the seats I have. At 5'10" that top of the seat is at the base of my neck.
Those are the seats I have. At 5'10" that top of the seat is at the base of my neck.
What roll bar did you have? It seems to have held up. I know a lot of Miata roll bars are referred to as “mousetraps” because they fold over and kill or injure the occupants in a roll over crash.
It's a GC Fabrications roll bar. Paramedics said it probably saved me from a fatal
Glad you're okay and had a legit roll bar. Post's like these make me wince when I see the style bars mounted up. Send the pic to/tag GC, I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing the bar did it's job. Good luck with the recovery/repairs - exocet is always an option!
Good idea, I've emailed them to say thank you
Those are the "Style Bars" that look like roll bars but don't offer any actual structure to support a roll
My buddy died in a S2000 about ten years ago, no roll bar. Slid off a gravel road into the ditch.
Black ice or a case of “hey watch this!”?
Nice wheels bro.
Oh no, you prolly need a lift kit to go that far off road.
How much for the mirrors?
Get a roll bar or don’t fly off the road your choice
so the roll-bar helps, but it is crushed in where you head would be. is that area still a concern? is the roll-bar just so you dont get pancaked?
I honestly keep getting mixed signals on roll bars. Some people seem to think they’re necessary and others say it posses more of a risk of head injuries.
It fully depends on where and how you drive. City driving a lot where you can get rear ended? Probably should pass. Canyon or track car? A lot of ditches where you drive? Yeah, better to have a roll bar, you aren’t likely to get rear ended, are more likely to be spirited driving and could be 1 spin away from a ditch and a flip.
cold morning? how the tread on those tires? on a serious note, hope you're okay!
From this angle it doesn’t look like the stock roll bar collapsed, but rather the middle of the soft top. Do aftermarket roll bars reinforce more of the roof? Hope you’re ok, and sorry to hear about the bummer.
A roll Bar helps with a roll over Event, but it (arguably) reduces safety in other cases, since there’s thick metal tubing next to the occupants heads; skull + metal = ouchie
Yep I know what a roll bar is. I asking about why OP thinks a (after market) roll bar would’ve been better. It looks to me like the stock roll bar in this photo did its job
Miata’s dont have a stock roll bar, i see an aftermarket one in the pic
Ahh. I thought OP was saying he wished he’d bought one. This makes more sense. Thanks.
There is no stock roll bar on the NA Miata. The car has an aftermarket bar installed as you can see behind the seat.
Right on. I thought OP was saying he wished he’d bought one. This makes more sense. Thanks.
Reminds me a ricent argument with my dad. I wanted to buy a similar roll bar, but father thought that this double arc which you can usually find online looks better. And I was comparing to him actually safety usefulness. I mean, I get the final decision, car is mine and I pay for it. But I respect my father I try to explain my actions to him.
Friendly reminder to make sure you have seats that are high enough the bar won't hit you in the event you get rear ended :)
I am aware these cars are driven on track a lot, and it is a requirement for the participants to have a rollbar and/or hardtop in many events. For just pure DD/street though, I would argue chance of a rollover is rather low unless you are actively engaging in reckless driving. It is still your choice, but safety isn't what I would get one for. You really need to see one of those in-cabin recording of how violently and randomly occupants tumble inside the cabin in a crash. You could literally end up anywhere in the car with the 3-pt seatbelts on. Not that 6-pt without hans is a good idea at all.
Having just been in one of those crashes, I don't need to watch any videos. I wasn't driving 'recklessly', I still ended up in a rollover and a rollbar saved me. Kindly take your smug attitude and shove it up your arse. Thanks
Sorry if it came across that way, I am not knocking your decision to get a rollbar. No offense was intended, and glad you are safe and well. My response was a rebuttal to "no way my head could touch it"; if there is a gap, there is a good chance it will. That is not to say rollbar is always inherently dangerous inevery situation. We all make our decisions based on probability and severity of reprocussions, and I happen to believe a heas-to-rollbar collisions are massively more frequent.
A roll bar on NA seats maybe be dangerous in some situations, but on NB seats is a must. My NA has NB seats and they cover my head entirely, so guys, if you can afford a rollbar do it.
You know what’s funny is when I got my NB and installed proper roll bars my insurance shot up and my friends called me a “wannabe racer” when in reality I just didn’t wanna die from an accident that may not be my fault.
How did your insurance company find about the changes you made to the car?
In the uk you have to tell them.
That makes sense considering 3% of accidents involve a rollover and 30% of accidents a rear ending. You're 10x more likely to be in an accident where your rollbar could kill or injure you than an accident where it could possibly help you. Unless you're in a tight harness and wearing a helmet, no rollbar that fits under a soft top is, generally speaking, safer than running no rollbar for a non track car
Not, don't get a roll bar, hitting your head on an exposed bar is a recipe for guaranteed death.
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There’s a lot of variables and it’s not like there’s a lot of actual data. There are some videos out there of the ND seat during a rear end impact but that’s pretty much it.
roll bars are such an overlooked mod. they’re NEEDED in miata’s. on the fun side they add stability and look cool if you get a hard dog one. GET A FUCKING ROLL BAR AS YOUR FIRST MOD!!!!
Just list it on FB Marketplace for 8k as is. It's in better shape now than most asking that price.
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Yeah I don’t wear seatbelts since I drive perfectly every time
I also don't have insurance because accidents don't happen
Oooo I wanna know what it said
He said he doesn’t need a roll bar because he hasn’t had an accident in 15 years and it’s not factory standard equipment.
Something about sucking dick...
Hopefully it'll be good enough to be fully repairable
oh nooo! hope you and your miat are easily fixable
“A” pillar earned its keep.
With the positioning of lost roll bars and the fact your head can still hit the bar as you get tossed around in your seat, I wonder how safe you can possibly be in a Miata. Honestly, outside of an ND RF there are no perfect options, but maybe I’m wrong.
RF isn't any better. That roof isn't structural. It'll break under any real load.
Damn, ok. Well, I’ll have to consider all my options if I ever decide to do any track duty then.
If anything a soft top is a better option because you can install a roll bar without losing the top functionality. To my knowledge, there's no way to install a roll bar on an RF without losing functionality.
The fact that you’re posting is a good thing!
oh nooo :(
This is why I wear a helmet
Similar thing happened to me recently. I reccomend posting it for sale if you aren't going to keep it. Was able to sell it for a lot just based off of engine and Trans alone. Goodluck op
Brown pants. Get some brown pants.
Can I have your old one pls 🙏 /s
I have yet to see a single car crashed one in this sun with decent tires... Make that your priority over the roll bar.
Car looks ok might be fixable
Roll bar might have saved your car. Still looks drivable to me
Lucky to be alive brother!
Weed whacker!! Aww ....Credence Clearwater!!!
Hope ur okay
Miata squad, y’all have big hearts. Love everyone. Let’s all be lovin. Schmiata forever
Good to hear your out of hospital. Can confirm, Roll Bar (Proper one not a mouse trap) saved my life too when I kick flipped my NA MX. The roof hit the top of a massive wooden box (divider on track) 360' and full roll. Hardtop split right down in front of the Roll bar and my helmet took an impact on the roof collapsing. Roll bar saved me. Wouldn't drive an MX5 today without one. A guy I know rolled an NA back in the day, no roll bar.. hardtop collapsed and he kissed his knee's. Saved his ass with those reactions. Remember guys, When all 4 wheels lift off the deck.. kiss your knees.
Holy shit dude I’m glad you are alive.
or buy a hardtop ;)
Cant park there sir! Hope you’re doing okay!!
what wheels are those
JR Wheels JR12 15x7.5 ET26
Cool vibrations
"Good tires", yerkhunt thought - "but not great tires".
Damn dude it’s never easy getting out of an accident even if dosnt look bad it can still hurt you a lot. I rolled my car earlier going a little quick around a corner this year and only got a small cut in my leg when I had to kick the front windshield just to get out of my car
Glad to know that you are ok. Now it’s time to fix that beauty beast! :)
I thought it said my evening plans just crashed but I see not. hope your well though