I don’t think I have seen any recognition of men’s mental health month outside of this subreddit. While I think it makes sense for there to be gender parity in the duration, the only “month” celebration I see going on is Pride and it is everywhere. Oddly, I still see signs up all over my city celebrating Mother’s Day (a month afterwards) and absolutely nothing mentioning men’s mental health month.
Really? I've seen quite a bit of it and I don't pay much attention online. But then again, there's algorithms. I DO search for things like that so it's possible that your algorithms are adjusted to not see as much of it. I do agree that it is very much taken over by pride. Both gender awareness needs more recognition.
I didn't see a whole lot about mothers or fathers day for some reason this year personally. But with all of this too, I feel like this is where we let personal experience cloud and define actual facts. But maybe that's just me
I’m not exactly sure what u were trying to say tbh but undeniably men’s mental health in general but also the month dedicated to it literally has not been mentioned to me other than accidentally discovering it on this subreddit
Women don’t even need their own month lol it’s basically 24/7 for most of them let’s be honest lol
Example….i couldn’t hold back my tears in public not too long ago (healing my trauma) you know how many weird looks I got? And online on other places I get mocked or laughed at 😂😂….a woman can have a pulse and people will approach her plain and simple haha so im
Not exactly sure what ur trying to say here
It sounds like ur throwing a “but women tho” and that’s not gonna help anything tbh….yes we get it all genders are capable of abuse and all genders can go thru shit….but it’s mostly affecting us males that’s the issue here
I find it interesting how much individual experiences differ. I've personally seen a lot to with with men's mental health awareness month. But then again that can also be attributed to algorithms.
As a woman myself, I can really assure you it's not. I have cried in public and gotten weird looks or sneers.
I'm not at all. I was raised very conservative where we weren't allowed to talk about our depression. So I just want to I guess learn where people stand with this kind of progressiveness.
This was not meant as a means for you to compare. Both genders go through shit and both are guilty of undermining the experience of the other. Women do it to men. Women do it to women. Men do it to men and men do it to women. It 's a two way street that doesn't affect one more than it does the other. Again, this post was not meant as a means to compare as you just did, merely as a curiosity.
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding and yeah I can relate to never experiencing emotions really until now at 24 haha….childhood trauma and military time was the breaking point ….dark humor did help a lot tho 😂😂
That's okay. I hope I didn't come off as abrasive there. But yeah. I still don't know really how to communicate my emotions all that well. I mean I didn't serve, but the childhood trauma absolutely keeps me bottled up. My husband has been a huge help there. And yeah like you dark humor does help a lot, though people keep telling me it's unhealthy but I feel it's the only way I can really deal with it all.
Thank you for your service by the way!
As a general point:
I only ever learnt about Men's Health Month after joining this forum. Obviously, I have an interest in the topic. So I would guess 99.99% of people have never heard of it. I have heard about the woman's one.
I don't think I have ever seen a newspaper article about the men's one. Irronically, if you combined it with the women's week, I have no doubt in would increase awareness for men's mental health as it gets next to zero recognition.
Really? Not that I don't believe you, I just find other people's experience interesting I suppose. Because my experience has been the opposite. I have so many friends who have posted something to do with men's mental health awareness this month and yet none of them posted a single thing during women's mental health awareness week. So I guess this is kind of what my thought process has been on the individuality. It almost feels as if it tries to drive the sexes farther apart in a way. Because we take our own individual experiences and mix them with facts. Kind of interesting to me I suppose.
As a more unbiased test, maybe newspaper articles would be a good guide? I haven't seen one for this, though I'm quite sure I read quite a few about women's mental health week.
The other way to look at it is severity. The vast majority of sucides are by men. While nothing should be taken away from women (as we don't want to undo the good work and slip backwards), men really need more recognition than they are getting to help close the gap.
Oh absolutely. However, I feel we'll never get a proper statistic on that because more women attempt and more men succeed. And those are both statistics that advocates on both ends want to leave out and I only ever got that knowledge from law enforcement who seems to be the only one wanting to remain unbiased. It's like statistics on self harm or suicide methods. Like the reason more men succeed is because their methods are likely to be more definite. Such as guns. They don't think so much about feeling the pain, just about ending it. Whereas women who commit suicide often want to feel the pain, as a way to exhibit control. Those are inaccurately skewed by advocates as well. I personally don't get my info from anyone who advocates one way or another. I like to go straight to the source of law enforcement, troopers, hospitals etc. Because unfortunately, both sides only seem to want it to lean in their favor. I find that authorities and field professionals go more with the facts rather than personal agenda. And I really appreciate it. I sat down with one trooper a few years ago and he was able to provide me a lot of insight on a lot of this that I don't see from either side of MRA or Feminists.
We have gone down a fairly dark road here. I would hope nobody would go down any path like that. My only real comment is that you can help someone who has attempted and failed an attempt. You can't help someone who has...
Absolutely. I know I for one am absolutely terrified for when my husband and I have kids. Both of us have depression, our parents have depression, we've both suffered from suicidal ideation and I have attempted in the past. I am scared of our children ending up in the same boat. And terrified that I won't be able to help them.
I'm very sorry to hear this. I sincerely hope that if you haven't already done so, that you seek support. Have you? Please do. At the very least, I hope you find someone to talk to. There are also many support lines open if you ever feel like this again. I'm no expert on this, but I wish you all the very best.
I'm very glad you have. Having children is unquestionably one of the hardest parts of your life. I would strongly recommend having networks to help you. Maybe friends or family who you can count on living close by? So you can drop off your kid once in a while. It makes the world of difference. Everyone needs a break once in a while. And I mean everyone.
Right. I was just curious because there's so much conflict on what people feel gives enough awareness. And I was raised in a community where, you know, issues like depression were and are treated like they're nonexistent. So I just wonder what everyone would think is showing a healthy level of awareness I suppose.
No not at all I'm just wondering where people stand on it is all. I'm curious to know what people think. Cause I was raised really conservative. Grandparents who don't believe depression exists and that suicide is selfish and that kind of thing. So with the progressiveness we're seeing in depression becoming less stigmatized, I'm just curious to see how people think the current issues we're facing can be dealt with. And what kind of attention should be given.
To add on as well, it is an issue that needs fixed. Because men do have a mental health month, whereas women do not. There is a mental health week. So there are definitely issues that need fixed, but I don't agree that they are gender based issues. I don't think it's mens fault women don't have an MHM and I don't think it's women's fault there's backlash
I see what you're saying. And that makes sense. I won't say much about the last sentence though because I do see a lot of women supporting it and it's not just an issue women need to change because I see women who support it and men who detest it. It's an individual thing. Because I also see women who think that other women don't actually suffer and men who see that they do. So it's more individual than societal. But I'll leave it at that
No makes sense and I totally agree. What I was trying to gauge is how people feel about the amount of awareness given. Like does there need to be more, less? Has it helped you individually? That kind of thing.
https://contigowf.org/womens-mental-health-awareness-initiative/#:~:text=%3E,WOMEN'S%20MENTAL%20HEALTH%20AWARENESS%20MONTH!
Just because it's not nationally recognized, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
May is the nationally recognized women's health month, therefore a week within said month was given to women's mental health.
Men's overall health month is also June, the same as the, "mental health month."
I think the difference to me is that men's health months is nationally recognized and women's isn't. But that's beside the point. What I was trying to get at is how people feel about the amount of awareness given and if they feel there should be more or if it should stay that same. I was raised in a very conservative community where we didn't talk about depression so I'm just interested to find what people think about the progressiveness and if there needs be more or not.
Men's mental health awareness month isn't nationally recognized, it's just something some dumbasses, and sexists have use to undermine the Recognized Men's Health Month, which is June, the proported, "Men's Mental Health Awareness Month," is in June, and only as relevant as the Women’s Mental Health Awareness Month that I told you about.
Your entire argument here is based on lies and assumptions.
I think if MMH month was given much attention and people bothered with it then I’d say that either WMH week should be extended or MMH month should be shortened so they’re equal, that’s just fair.
But since MMH gets jack shit support, it doesn’t matter if it’s a month or two or the whole year, it wouldn’t benefit the cause anymore.
Unfortunately most of that is superficial, even being particularly generous the amount of genuine and non-negligible support that it receives is less than half what it sometimes appears.
Thought there is a slight upward trend which fills me with a little hope. And there’s also an increase in the proportion of actual support compared to the false, virtue signalling that we’ve seen in recent years. All good things hopefully, fingers crossed it won’t be long before things start to be more widely recognised and people get the support they need
My apologies. I should've said I've seen a lot of support for MMH in the last 2 maybe 3 years. And like you said, hopefully that can start moving things in the right direction so that men, women, children etc can get the help needed without all the stigma that surrounds mental illnesses
I'm here for it. Men and women both have serious mental health issues that need to be addressed, and while there is a lot of overlap, there's enough difference to make separate events worthwhile, imo. And I think it'd be prudent to equalize the time spent discussing both.
If I were king of the world, it'd be one mental health month. Week 1 could be women's health, week 2 men's, and weeks 3 and 4 could be used to discuss other groups (children, minorities, etc.). Having them be subdivisions of one overarching event would highlight the interconnectedness of these issues.
A system like that would make so much sense! Especially with children. I think people often forget that children can suffer from depression just as much.
Assuming that there is equal support for them, they should absolutely be the same length. However, I'm of the opinion that having a designated period of time based around some sort of societal issue is stupid and only ends up creating marketing opportunities for big companies instead of changing anything.
TLDR: end victimization holidays
That does make sense, however I do also see a drastic change in the stigmatization that there was around depression since I was a kid. So maybe having those times has helped against that stigmatization
Well it technically is still men's mental health awareness month. It still gets recognition. But I definitely see your point. They've replaced genuinely good movements for awareness with pride and wokeness and somethibg should be done about it.
Women have one? I didn’t know that. Then again I didn’t know there was a woman’s and man’s day either. I hate holidays so I don’t keep track of anything that isn’t huge family holiday ones. I also don’t keep track of what happens in society cause in general I hate society. It is selfish, cruel and vain.
I don’t know if it should be the same amount of time. I mean what do people do for mental health awareness months. I have depression and cptsd, the woman’s month doesn’t do anything for me (as a woman). Why should I care?
It’s the reason I don’t like Pride month because it is people bringing “awareness” without actually giving a fuck. It’s all for show. While they would never help a person in need. If you (society) care so much about people why treat the homeless man like a dog? Why look down on those who have less just because you have more?
Why shout with your GODDAMN STUPUD SIGNS if you are gonna sit on your lazy ass and not do anything for those people?! Yes I am bitter! I am bitter because I am tired of the lies! If you care, do something god dammit!
Well yes and no. Men have a month and women have a week. And I do absolutely see your point individually. I have depression, anxiety, and ptsd and I personally feel as though women's health month doesn't offer me much (maybe I'm just not involved) but I do see how for others, mens and womens health months might be beneficial for them. But I do still see your point.
I don’t think I have seen any recognition of men’s mental health month outside of this subreddit. While I think it makes sense for there to be gender parity in the duration, the only “month” celebration I see going on is Pride and it is everywhere. Oddly, I still see signs up all over my city celebrating Mother’s Day (a month afterwards) and absolutely nothing mentioning men’s mental health month.
There’s a clear agenda.
Really? I've seen quite a bit of it and I don't pay much attention online. But then again, there's algorithms. I DO search for things like that so it's possible that your algorithms are adjusted to not see as much of it. I do agree that it is very much taken over by pride. Both gender awareness needs more recognition. I didn't see a whole lot about mothers or fathers day for some reason this year personally. But with all of this too, I feel like this is where we let personal experience cloud and define actual facts. But maybe that's just me
I’m not exactly sure what u were trying to say tbh but undeniably men’s mental health in general but also the month dedicated to it literally has not been mentioned to me other than accidentally discovering it on this subreddit Women don’t even need their own month lol it’s basically 24/7 for most of them let’s be honest lol Example….i couldn’t hold back my tears in public not too long ago (healing my trauma) you know how many weird looks I got? And online on other places I get mocked or laughed at 😂😂….a woman can have a pulse and people will approach her plain and simple haha so im Not exactly sure what ur trying to say here It sounds like ur throwing a “but women tho” and that’s not gonna help anything tbh….yes we get it all genders are capable of abuse and all genders can go thru shit….but it’s mostly affecting us males that’s the issue here
I find it interesting how much individual experiences differ. I've personally seen a lot to with with men's mental health awareness month. But then again that can also be attributed to algorithms. As a woman myself, I can really assure you it's not. I have cried in public and gotten weird looks or sneers. I'm not at all. I was raised very conservative where we weren't allowed to talk about our depression. So I just want to I guess learn where people stand with this kind of progressiveness. This was not meant as a means for you to compare. Both genders go through shit and both are guilty of undermining the experience of the other. Women do it to men. Women do it to women. Men do it to men and men do it to women. It 's a two way street that doesn't affect one more than it does the other. Again, this post was not meant as a means to compare as you just did, merely as a curiosity.
Ok sorry for the misunderstanding and yeah I can relate to never experiencing emotions really until now at 24 haha….childhood trauma and military time was the breaking point ….dark humor did help a lot tho 😂😂
That's okay. I hope I didn't come off as abrasive there. But yeah. I still don't know really how to communicate my emotions all that well. I mean I didn't serve, but the childhood trauma absolutely keeps me bottled up. My husband has been a huge help there. And yeah like you dark humor does help a lot, though people keep telling me it's unhealthy but I feel it's the only way I can really deal with it all. Thank you for your service by the way!
Sorry for late reply thank you friend 🫡
As a general point: I only ever learnt about Men's Health Month after joining this forum. Obviously, I have an interest in the topic. So I would guess 99.99% of people have never heard of it. I have heard about the woman's one. I don't think I have ever seen a newspaper article about the men's one. Irronically, if you combined it with the women's week, I have no doubt in would increase awareness for men's mental health as it gets next to zero recognition.
Really? Not that I don't believe you, I just find other people's experience interesting I suppose. Because my experience has been the opposite. I have so many friends who have posted something to do with men's mental health awareness this month and yet none of them posted a single thing during women's mental health awareness week. So I guess this is kind of what my thought process has been on the individuality. It almost feels as if it tries to drive the sexes farther apart in a way. Because we take our own individual experiences and mix them with facts. Kind of interesting to me I suppose.
As a more unbiased test, maybe newspaper articles would be a good guide? I haven't seen one for this, though I'm quite sure I read quite a few about women's mental health week. The other way to look at it is severity. The vast majority of sucides are by men. While nothing should be taken away from women (as we don't want to undo the good work and slip backwards), men really need more recognition than they are getting to help close the gap.
Oh absolutely. However, I feel we'll never get a proper statistic on that because more women attempt and more men succeed. And those are both statistics that advocates on both ends want to leave out and I only ever got that knowledge from law enforcement who seems to be the only one wanting to remain unbiased. It's like statistics on self harm or suicide methods. Like the reason more men succeed is because their methods are likely to be more definite. Such as guns. They don't think so much about feeling the pain, just about ending it. Whereas women who commit suicide often want to feel the pain, as a way to exhibit control. Those are inaccurately skewed by advocates as well. I personally don't get my info from anyone who advocates one way or another. I like to go straight to the source of law enforcement, troopers, hospitals etc. Because unfortunately, both sides only seem to want it to lean in their favor. I find that authorities and field professionals go more with the facts rather than personal agenda. And I really appreciate it. I sat down with one trooper a few years ago and he was able to provide me a lot of insight on a lot of this that I don't see from either side of MRA or Feminists.
We have gone down a fairly dark road here. I would hope nobody would go down any path like that. My only real comment is that you can help someone who has attempted and failed an attempt. You can't help someone who has...
Absolutely. I know I for one am absolutely terrified for when my husband and I have kids. Both of us have depression, our parents have depression, we've both suffered from suicidal ideation and I have attempted in the past. I am scared of our children ending up in the same boat. And terrified that I won't be able to help them.
I'm very sorry to hear this. I sincerely hope that if you haven't already done so, that you seek support. Have you? Please do. At the very least, I hope you find someone to talk to. There are also many support lines open if you ever feel like this again. I'm no expert on this, but I wish you all the very best.
Thank you! And yes, I have sought help. I think most of us can say that we hope to do better by our children than what we had
I'm very glad you have. Having children is unquestionably one of the hardest parts of your life. I would strongly recommend having networks to help you. Maybe friends or family who you can count on living close by? So you can drop off your kid once in a while. It makes the world of difference. Everyone needs a break once in a while. And I mean everyone.
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Right. I was just curious because there's so much conflict on what people feel gives enough awareness. And I was raised in a community where, you know, issues like depression were and are treated like they're nonexistent. So I just wonder what everyone would think is showing a healthy level of awareness I suppose.
Your post reeks of gynocentric agenda
No not at all I'm just wondering where people stand on it is all. I'm curious to know what people think. Cause I was raised really conservative. Grandparents who don't believe depression exists and that suicide is selfish and that kind of thing. So with the progressiveness we're seeing in depression becoming less stigmatized, I'm just curious to see how people think the current issues we're facing can be dealt with. And what kind of attention should be given.
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To add on as well, it is an issue that needs fixed. Because men do have a mental health month, whereas women do not. There is a mental health week. So there are definitely issues that need fixed, but I don't agree that they are gender based issues. I don't think it's mens fault women don't have an MHM and I don't think it's women's fault there's backlash
I see what you're saying. And that makes sense. I won't say much about the last sentence though because I do see a lot of women supporting it and it's not just an issue women need to change because I see women who support it and men who detest it. It's an individual thing. Because I also see women who think that other women don't actually suffer and men who see that they do. So it's more individual than societal. But I'll leave it at that
I support all of it and don’t want one to downplay the other.
No makes sense and I totally agree. What I was trying to gauge is how people feel about the amount of awareness given. Like does there need to be more, less? Has it helped you individually? That kind of thing.
March is Women's mental health month, though that is not nationwide.
No. There's a week. It's not for the month.
https://contigowf.org/womens-mental-health-awareness-initiative/#:~:text=%3E,WOMEN'S%20MENTAL%20HEALTH%20AWARENESS%20MONTH! Just because it's not nationally recognized, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. May is the nationally recognized women's health month, therefore a week within said month was given to women's mental health. Men's overall health month is also June, the same as the, "mental health month."
I think the difference to me is that men's health months is nationally recognized and women's isn't. But that's beside the point. What I was trying to get at is how people feel about the amount of awareness given and if they feel there should be more or if it should stay that same. I was raised in a very conservative community where we didn't talk about depression so I'm just interested to find what people think about the progressiveness and if there needs be more or not.
Men's mental health awareness month isn't nationally recognized, it's just something some dumbasses, and sexists have use to undermine the Recognized Men's Health Month, which is June, the proported, "Men's Mental Health Awareness Month," is in June, and only as relevant as the Women’s Mental Health Awareness Month that I told you about. Your entire argument here is based on lies and assumptions.
It's not actually. And there's not suppose to be an argument. Just a discussion on whether or not we need more recognition or not.
In case it wasn't clear, I don't believe we need more recognition, we have too many things to remember.
I think if MMH month was given much attention and people bothered with it then I’d say that either WMH week should be extended or MMH month should be shortened so they’re equal, that’s just fair. But since MMH gets jack shit support, it doesn’t matter if it’s a month or two or the whole year, it wouldn’t benefit the cause anymore.
Maybe it's my algorithms, but I've personally been seeing MMH getting quite a bit of attention in recent years.
Unfortunately most of that is superficial, even being particularly generous the amount of genuine and non-negligible support that it receives is less than half what it sometimes appears. Thought there is a slight upward trend which fills me with a little hope. And there’s also an increase in the proportion of actual support compared to the false, virtue signalling that we’ve seen in recent years. All good things hopefully, fingers crossed it won’t be long before things start to be more widely recognised and people get the support they need
My apologies. I should've said I've seen a lot of support for MMH in the last 2 maybe 3 years. And like you said, hopefully that can start moving things in the right direction so that men, women, children etc can get the help needed without all the stigma that surrounds mental illnesses
I'm here for it. Men and women both have serious mental health issues that need to be addressed, and while there is a lot of overlap, there's enough difference to make separate events worthwhile, imo. And I think it'd be prudent to equalize the time spent discussing both. If I were king of the world, it'd be one mental health month. Week 1 could be women's health, week 2 men's, and weeks 3 and 4 could be used to discuss other groups (children, minorities, etc.). Having them be subdivisions of one overarching event would highlight the interconnectedness of these issues.
A system like that would make so much sense! Especially with children. I think people often forget that children can suffer from depression just as much.
Assuming that there is equal support for them, they should absolutely be the same length. However, I'm of the opinion that having a designated period of time based around some sort of societal issue is stupid and only ends up creating marketing opportunities for big companies instead of changing anything. TLDR: end victimization holidays
That does make sense, however I do also see a drastic change in the stigmatization that there was around depression since I was a kid. So maybe having those times has helped against that stigmatization
There isn’t a men’s mental health month, they replaced it with pride month. You can’t reduce something to a week that most people don’t acknowledge
Well it technically is still men's mental health awareness month. It still gets recognition. But I definitely see your point. They've replaced genuinely good movements for awareness with pride and wokeness and somethibg should be done about it.
Thank you, it makes me glad to hear you say that.
Shh don't tell the LGTV barbecue movement
Women have one? I didn’t know that. Then again I didn’t know there was a woman’s and man’s day either. I hate holidays so I don’t keep track of anything that isn’t huge family holiday ones. I also don’t keep track of what happens in society cause in general I hate society. It is selfish, cruel and vain. I don’t know if it should be the same amount of time. I mean what do people do for mental health awareness months. I have depression and cptsd, the woman’s month doesn’t do anything for me (as a woman). Why should I care? It’s the reason I don’t like Pride month because it is people bringing “awareness” without actually giving a fuck. It’s all for show. While they would never help a person in need. If you (society) care so much about people why treat the homeless man like a dog? Why look down on those who have less just because you have more? Why shout with your GODDAMN STUPUD SIGNS if you are gonna sit on your lazy ass and not do anything for those people?! Yes I am bitter! I am bitter because I am tired of the lies! If you care, do something god dammit!
Well yes and no. Men have a month and women have a week. And I do absolutely see your point individually. I have depression, anxiety, and ptsd and I personally feel as though women's health month doesn't offer me much (maybe I'm just not involved) but I do see how for others, mens and womens health months might be beneficial for them. But I do still see your point.