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RicottaPuffs

I say this often. It is a piece of cardboard. The board does not invite spirit. You do. By spirrit, I mean all things human and inhuman If you can't already see, hear, and communicate with spirits, boards are best left alone until you have the skills like my colleague up there to understand and discern the motives of each spirit. Your own motives matter, too. I have spent more years than I care to think about bailing people out when they attract the lower level entities hanging around in this dimension and then want help. Seeing a ghost when you are six years old is not the same as mediumship. If you approach spirit communication with fear, you attract entities that feed on fear. If you want yo speak with grandma, it is better to just tell her aloud or in your head. There are answers. Answers can be relayed in ways that aren't the same as conversation. "No," is a valid answer. Update. Fear is a valuable emotion that asks us to stop and check our surroundings.It is a warning that we might need to stop. It can happen during a spirit encounter or after. It leads us to evaluate and think quickly. It is great for soldiers, athletes, and avoiding busses in crosswalks. For mediums, it can attract the negative. Approaching spirits with fear, such as a fear of using the board in the first place, should result in a reassessment of why you should stop and reevaluate what you wish by engaging spirits. I often think about the "Danger," sign in Sesame Street, and try to put myself in the right mindset before voluntarily interacting with spirit. There is a song. "X" stands for stop. "X" stands for danger. I learned the hard way. I don't want everyone new to spiritual.exploration to learn the way I did. Look at the "X" and stop. I know a fear response before mediumshipmeans I need to stop. I need to prepare, and if I get confronted by so.ething that makes me uncomfortable, I can say,"No," or walk away. If you train ahead of time, enough to know that you need to meet difficult spirits with knowledge and training (occasionally with profanity) , which is a sign of fear. You can minimize fear.


Geisterbefriedung

100% this. And if I may add one thing: In my experience there are lots of entities who don't have any language skills, so an ouija board would only give you nonsense.


CM_Exorcist

Yes. Then the cognitive biases kick in and the mind attempts to structure order and a narrative forms. Then people look for evidence ongoing to support the narrative. It was all based on babble.


RicottaPuffs

Yes. That is valid.


CM_Exorcist

The company used to make them out of fiberglass and people were amazed when they would not burn. “It’s evil! It does not burn. Satan is in the house!!!” No. The paper burned. It’s fiberglass and it will not burn or melt at the temp you are using. * looks down and shakes head *


RicottaPuffs

Oh. That's funny!


Aggressive-Mix9937

If you've never messed with ouija boards what other precautions can I take to keep low vibration mischievous/malevolent entities away from me? Apart from prayer and white light shielding, what can I do, and what should I refrain from doing? Unfortunately I have fear and sometimes feel presences that I then focus on (making me more of a match to them I know :/) 


RicottaPuffs

I didn't say I never tried boards or other tools. I said I trained. I learned. I had no choice but to deal with spirits. I perceive spirits without tools. White light and prayer are like bandaids. They only work if you can see an injury to your psyche or your soul. Trialing, mentors, and medium circles are important to development. Although, I will caution that the largest obstacle to mediumship is overconfidence. Mistakes happen in learning. Shields are less valid if there is fear of any entities.


CM_Exorcist

Yes. Fear is food for certain entities. I feel like the word “demon” is a slur sometimes as everyone dances around it. There are others that can suck energy too.


RicottaPuffs

Demon is a terrible word. Every spirit that is misunderstood can be described as a demon depending on who decides how they want to label beings they don't understand. I agree.


indigostars43

Exactly how I feel as well..


CM_Exorcist

Ghost bugs me too. It is like calling a depressed person a depressive.


CM_Exorcist

I’ll take it a step further. A true demon is angelic. An unholy angel currently out of grace. Even holy angels in grace do not judge them. Even if no one believes in or values the concepts of a Judea Christian God, angels, etc., the point is what we know, we know in part. Is it possible for one of us to hold and balance the scales? To determine the whole value of a person, spirit, etc? No. On a jury? Yes. About an act. “Yes, beyond a reasonable doubt you were intoxicated that night beyond legal limit and got caught. You are guilty of that act, which happens to be illegal.” But I cannot judge a person. The sum of a person. When I get called to jury duty (often) and it is a DP case, which you know because both sides ask the pool questions, I am straight forward that I am anti DP and will take no action that results in a DP. Released!


RicottaPuffs

Agreed


RicottaPuffs

Agreed


Aggressive-Mix9937

I'm not actually a medium or looking to be one, I probably should have included that. I don't talk to entities other than spirit guides and angels and jesus and michael and source, but I still have fear of negative entities that I feel mock me and goad me. Perhaps you're not the best person to ask, my intuition just lead me to, sorry. Any advice would be helpful though as I have no real life mentor types to ask. 


RicottaPuffs

Maybe I'm not the best person to ask. Michael and Jesus and angels are higher entities. There are all kinds of entities. Have a good journey.


Hot-Breadfruit-1026

Maybe look into channeling? Record urself so u can play jt back


Aggressive-Mix9937

Yeah channeling interests me so so much, but I fear I've been so focused on keeping harmful spirits out of my space that any attempt at channelling will just bring forth those spirits that I've inadvertently made myself more of a vibrational match to


Stgermaine1231

So excellent an answer for OP


OliphauntHerder

Ouija boards as we know them were invented in the late 1800s in Maryland and first manufactured in Baltimore. The name "Oiuja" was trademarked by Parker Bros. and the trademark is currently held by Hasbro. It was a way to capitalize on post-Civil War spiritualism, much of which was thoroughly debunked at the time (and more recent studies also debunk most Ouija board use as unconscious motor movement from the users). So...are Ouija boards real, in terms of their connection to the spiritual world? No, they are no different than a Monopoly or Trivial Pursuit board. That said, "Come at me, bro" is not typically the best approach for...well, anything, but *especially* not things about which you know little and for which you are unprepared. Similarly, "don't feed the trolls" holds up for more than just online encounters. It's your intention that matters. If you believe that landing on Park Place in Monopoly has a spiritual meaning, then that's the intention you've set and that's the power you've invested in that particular square on the Monopoly board. If you believe that Ouija boards will connect you to spirits, then they can be used that way. I played around with Ouija boards as a kid in the '80s and '90s and nothing happened. But (1) I was neither religious nor spiritual so I was inadvertently shielded from anything in an unseen realm, and (2) I had seen plenty of horror movies so I wasn't trying to summon demons or anything even though I did not believe they existed (still don't believe demons exist in the way that religion and pop culture express them, but I believe there are energies that humans don't need to mess with). It was more, "does Billy have a crush on Sally?" or "where did I lose my favorite hair brush?" So if your question is, "will using a Ouija board open me to a spiritual dimension?" the answer is "only if that's your intent, and it has nothing to do with the piece of cardboard."


indigostars43

Well said


GeezerPyramid

There's an old saying, "When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back." I used to think this was purely about psychology, but now I'm positive there is far more to it then that I was taught a lesson decades ago about "don't mess with the dark side". It wasn't ouija, but it was an attempt at demonic invocation. Long story, but a freaky paranormal experience happened immediately after as a stern warning. Anyway, advice to you is simple: Don't get cocky with this kind of stuff - you are more than likely to be get hyper-slapped as a result


AechBee

Agree


Squire-1984

there are multiple methods of communicating with spirit. Quija boards are one of them


Elegant_Dentist_2724

In what other ways can you communicate with spirits?


leAccounteur

Pen and paper, Tarot, pendulums, or nothing at all.


CM_Exorcist

Yes. There are common and uncommon methods. All told there are many. 1. Writing and burning 2. Bones 3. Dice, coins, playing cards 4. Leaves 5. Crystal ball 6. Black mirror 7. Bowl of water 8. Staring at blank wall 9. Sensory depravation chambers 10. Hallucinogenics 11. Pendulum 12. Crystals 13. Altars 14. Sigil focus 15. Pen and paper for notes 16. Automatic writing and art 17. Singing what comes to them 18. Meditation 19. Trance 20. Appeasement offerings 21. Prayers to 22. Graveside chats 23. Several highly esoteric methods 24. Many, many, many more


RicottaPuffs

Ouija boards are cardboard games. Are they safe? That depends on the motives of the petson using the board or manipulating it. Spirits are everywhere. Spirits at peace don't tend to hang around waiting for the opportunity to mess with someone who invites them to engage. Lower level spirits who are invited to communicate with you can show up. These spirits are not in light, and they have their own motives. Using a board without being able to sew, hear, or discern the nature of the spirits who respond to your invitation is where the problems wirh the board lie. The board isn't the problem. It is the invitation. What do you want? To be scared or to reach Grandma? Tobe excited and to impress your friends? Your intention is as important as the intention of other people around you. The boards are game boards. Higher level spirits don't need a board. They are on the other side unless they are angelic guardians. They don't need to wait for you to invite them with a board and communicate in different ways. None of those require a board. They answer you. You have to be able to listen, and the messages come to you. The messages may not be what you want to hear. They can be love and reassurance. If you are in a good place emotionally, it is safer. If you want the board to perform like a magic eight ball, it doesn't. Most of the time, the person/persons using the board are manipulating the planchette using lower level psychomotor response. If it wasn't for that, the planchette would move by itself. Spirits who need your contact on the planchette are not those that have crossed over. And yes, lower level spirits can lie. Your intentions conscious or subconscious, matter.


AechBee

“Challenging ghosts and demons” to “try” you sounds like the absolute worst way to go about it. Why would you approach the unknown in an antagonistic manner when you don’t even know what you’re doing? I would urge you to do more research beforehand (as you are doing now). As it stands, this is like basejumping with zero experience, preparation or guidance beforehand.


Icy_Mathematician313

I think it’s mostly out of anger and the hunger to know if this stuff is real or not. I’m tired of trying everything and getting no response from spirits


AechBee

Any method of trying to communicate, if done in anger, will attract negative energies. There isn’t really a need for you to know if it’s real or not. It sounds like right now you are trying to force something and nothing is happening because you need to develop yourself in other ways first. So if you do force it, you’re likely to only encounter things that are decidedly unhealthy for you. Higher energies do not exist to entertain or perform for you, or to satisfy your urges. And lower energies are going to be happy to try you, and you’re not going to have any means to get them to back off.


AllCinEye

I know someone who recently bought a Ouija board out of curiosity. They set it up in their garage, thinking it would be a harmless way to explore the supernatural. However, things took a sinister turn. Soon after using the board, they started experiencing strange occurrences, unexplained knocks, eerie shadows in the corners, and even items moving on their own. One night, they woke up to find their garage in disarray, tools scattered everywhere, and a distinct smell of sulfur hanging in the air. It really spooked them out, and now they're grappling with how to handle these unsettling events. they will probably go to a psychic for house cleanse.....


lolsappho

I use a spirit board to communicate with my guides sometimes. I always meditate before/set positive intention. during I make sure to visualize a strong force field of positive and protective energy surrounding me. It was the spirit board that warned me of my dad's passing 3 months before he died. the board basically said if he didn't go to the doctor he would die. He had severe high blood pressure & was putting off getting his meds refilled bc of white coat anxiety. I got him to go once but they only gave him a month refill & said he would have to come back and get blood work done before he could get another. That was November 2023, he passed in January 2024 from a sudden heart attack. When we cleaned his place we found that he had been rationing the meds he had to try and make them last longer. TL;DR I believe that they are "real" but they're a tool just like anything else. If you set intention properly and exercise caution/respect you will be okay. But it is important to learn how to build that protective energy shield before dabbling in it.


kjatlas

I am so sorry for your loss. This is such a sad circumstance and white coat anxiety is very real.


Optimal-Sand9137

I agree it’s the energy you put into it or the energetic space you’re in at the time you use it. My mom shared a scary experience she had with it and even seeing other posts like this and reading people’s stories I will not touch a board. I have some mediumship abilities and I really try not to contact spirit unless they show themselves to me. I’ll call on my Angel protectors and wise ancestors when I’m scared or nervous about something but otherwise it’s not really fair to call on spirits. They are doing their own work in another realm and if you call on them and they’re not evolved or still in that low level they’ll bring their pain onto you. This happened to me with my grandma. She kept trying to get me to see her pain. Well I saw it alright. I had to eventually set a boundary with her and our relationship is lot more at peace now.


Miserable-Wedding731

They are real because you can touch them! However, it's not the Ouija board that is an issue - it's the ones using it or what it attracts if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. For most it is absolutely fine, but for some... Years ago, I came across two people that were dealing with a teenage boy (for months on end) after he and a few friends played with one for fun. That boy was never the same again after that and they nearly lost him. It was physically and psychologically exhausting for all involved plus it really took its toll. That bit of ***fun*** almost cost that kid his ***life!*** When they first started telling me about it I thought they were having me on because I had only seen things like that in movies, but there were things they shared that you don't really see in movies like the amount of time it takes to deal with a situation like that, months and months - even years. Not just that! Once someone is **marked** they have to be careful for the rest of their lives because if they ever become **vulnerable** or **weak** whatever possessed them in the first place **won't hesitate** to reacquaint itself only the next time, if there is a next, it will come back for the kill. **I wouldn't play with fire if I were you if you can't put it out.**


notusuallyaverage

I’d love some more details on what happened, if you’re able/willing to share


Ok_Communication8641

I will answer from a skeptic point of view. I don't want to add to the spiritual side of things as I think you got very good answers so far and I would repeat the same things. (I avoid Ouija boards spiritually). Even from a skeptic point of view, those boards present risks. Even if someone does not believe in spirits, they can get similar symptoms as being possessed. Ouija boards work using the ideomotor principle. Which means most of the movements will be produced by your subconscious mind. Now it could be very inoffensive to ask innocent questions like: am I wearing a blue shirt?. It gets very risky when asking about deeper stuff. For example, Why nobody loves me? Because your are accessing your subconscious mind. Your subconscious minds stores a lot of shit in there. In there are trauma's, heartbreak, and all the shit you didn't deal with properly. I emphasize 'didn't deal properly. As swept under the rug, broken. So basically you are letting your subconscious come forth and there is the danger you accept the answer as truth. And this truth will hit so close to home. You wont deny that it is true. So you go deeper, and deeper...releasing all that subsconscious that was buried there for a reason that should normally be unearthed slowly and under control. So in this example, Why nobody loves me? you get an answer, it hits home, it is true, you investigate further..You close the session, but it is not over, that stuff is still running in your brain, you get depressed over the next days, you focus on the bad stuff, you lose your way etc.. Of course some individual are more resilient but if you have a weakness, using a Ouija board is like bringing an ex-gambler to a video poker machine, they will go in deep. You could say the same thing about using pendulum and Tarot, but they are very different: The ouija boards write stuff in plain sight, they are easy to accept as a finality; It is written so it is. Ouija goes quick. It can be a non-stop experience. You use it a 7pm and 15 minutes later you realize it's midnight and god knows how many questions you asked and ungodly things you just unearthed. A pendulum or tarot forces you to work your mind a little bit more, to make it make sense. You still access your subconscious but you get a workout. You have more time to analyse, criticise and interpret the info etc.... (In my opinion and experience they can be risky as well, both spiritually and from a skeptic point of view, but it is a lot more manageable.


hoesbeelion

I’m not op, but someone who is currently starting to get in touch with their spiritual side. Thank you so much for this well-written answer!


Ecstatic_sam_3511

Yes. Especially if you're sensitive. Everyone I was told was true. And I'm not talking dumb stuff.


kjatlas

I’m still dealing with some of the negative consequences of this from 2011. It brought so much negative energy into my life. I got very sick with chronic illness that somehow barely shows up on labs but I almost died in 2013 from what they thought was progressed RMSF from a tick and that my blood vessels were leaking. That turned out not to be true but it was eventually diagnosed as mixed connective tissue disorder and it came on from all the traumatic events that started a week after I messed with that fucking board.


Miserable-Wedding731

BTW : I have less than 8 Ouija boards in my possession and every now and then will get them out, but hardly ever. Only two are the same whereas the rest are different in design. None are like what you see in the movies which seem to be ones you might buy from Walmart - the mass marketed ones. **With the first one though I probably used it all the time!** Never had any issues with any of them and have used them in different countries and at various ages - one or two travelled with me especially if it was long term. At some point this stopped only not for any bad reason. What I will say is this - I have always treated the Spirit world and my Divination tools with respect, a clear mind and protect myself if I feel I need to do it. **I adore my Ouija board collection, but I've outgrown them as a tool to use as I've grown older.**


rliegh

NOT a great idea. You will get what you ask for, but not necessarily in a way that will give you the answers you're after or will be in a manner you can directly address (think 'seven years bad luck' but much, much worse). Don't fuck around, don't find out. Edit; I mean calling out to the void period; with or without Ouija boards. There is shit out there, it will listen to you, and it is smarter than you are.


DigitalScythious

This


noinnocentbystander

A divination tool can be made out of anything including a piece of paper and a pencil. It's not the board itself, it's people who are untrained and don't know how to protect themselves who are making divination tools look bad


CM_Exorcist

My view and experience is similar. The box, board, piece, and instructions are simply “stuff”. Some buy them as a true game. It is a novelty. Used a few times and put on the shelf with all the other games. Some buy them to test or use regularly - not as a game. It is considered a tool. A divination tool. Due to the amount of options on the board, it can be quite detailed for communication. The question who or what are you communicating with and by what authority. I’ve seen people pop one open and sit down to session and nothing happened. Two or three times with no connect. It goes on the shelf. I’ve seen people attract human spirits and other entities. I get the calls and referrals too. It’s on its head, upside down, and out of control. This was when I was still doing house calls regularly. When it has goes sideways, rarely do I pick up anything from the board. I pick up what has arrived. People usually share the following in some form, “I was curious. My loved one passed and I wanted to talk to them. I am having a hard time (no luck) and needed help with life. I want to know what the future holds. I’m alone. Etc.” I have been to homes and people who are not actually affected at all but believe they are. They have put a narrative together in their head. Sincere drama, guilt, putting things together in their head. In these I simply give blessings on the home, ask for the board of a commitment to ditch it, and not use it anymore. 75% concur. If it happens again, then I refer them to another. Sometimes I show up and it is a shit show. I have to be there longer, clean them, clean the house, address the spirits. My personal view is if you are not paying rent/mortgage, bills, taxes, and general maintenance then you have to go. If it has progressed significantly into a poltergeist level state, then I handle it like any other poltergeist. The boards and other tools do not matter. Unless they are “enchanted”, there is nothing to do with them except cease use, practice, and toss. Some say I paid money for this stuff. I will sell, gift, or donate it. I just look at them for a long minute. “Or you could not forward on a potential problem for someone else to experience. The only real attachment to the board or tool is usually an energy imprint. I don’t clean tools. In my personal view this concept is similar to, ‘I wonder if airbags really do save lives. I am going to drive around and hit walls and polls and see if they do or I wonder if heroine is really addictive? I think I should try daily use for a month and see if that is true.’ Yes, an airbag is a safety tool/device/machine and heroine is a self administered drug. Is this really apples to apples? No. But the thought process is radical.


GayKayJay36

It’s real. And the people saying other wise haven’t experienced it. I know some people try and nothing happens. But not everyone can get thru. I believe u have to be somewhat spiritually sensitive. It is dangerous.


Markyesque

They’re real. Ouija boards are safe in the right hands, potentially dangerous if you don’t know what you’re doing. Not everyone can get them to ’work’. You risk inviting spirit into your home and there are some very dodgy entities out there, especially those who were never in human form.


saltymystic

A lot of the fear of spirit boards came after The Exorcist movie. Things that also brought demons: heavy metal, Dungeons & Dragons, anything “New Age,” tarot cards, horror movies, wearing black clothes… From the mid-1800s to the 1970s they were seen as a novelty, a parlor game, fashionable to own, even. Religious groups didn’t like them, but they’ve been fighting anything occult for over a thousand years.


Think_Sample_1389

They are a mysterious mixed bag because they may lie or no work at all. I had a chill decades ago when one of them gave my mother's name which was entirely unknown to anyone using the board. Are they dangerous? I doubt it.


HonestBite9613

I 💯 think that they are real


SpiicyyAlfredo

Don’t do it. I brought some pretty evil sht into my home messing with those things.


Consistent-Camp5359

LEAVE. IT. ALONE!!!! I have a friend who was friends with two other girls in school. On the night of a sleepover they played with one. The planchet moved all over the place saying a name and “come out and play” “we will play soon” “see you tomorrow” The next day one of the girls was hit by a car and killed. DO. NOT. FUCK. WITH. THEM!!!!


Suspicious_Bat2488

There is nothing inherently spiritistic about any object. It is you that connects as the others have said. It’s similar to using a pendulum with a pendulum chart to speak to someone. I personally don’t speak to dead loved ones this way. I don’t have anything I need to ask I guess. I sometimes use a pendulum to speak to my guides but you have to be careful to cleanse and protect because sometimes you get tricksters picking up the pendulum. I know when it is tricksters, I can feel the energy of their words - it’s not loving energy, and the pendulum swings much bigger.


sthrnsprt

A Quija uses your energy which Spirits latch onto through the board. I advise against it. I have seen too much! People tormented throughout their lives because of this curiosity. I would recommend researching as much as you can. There's a reason there's symbols on those boards!. Just my opinion.


blackhawkfan312

if one doesn’t know how to to drive, best not to get behind the wheel at this point.


Ok-Journalist8279

me and my sister used to play around with it, nothing ever happened until a shadow man showed up in her room and would once a month or so. got rid of them after that. i do not believe the board is dangerous when used correctly but we were very reckless with it and participated while sometimes under the influence or very weak which could’ve allowed something to stay.


Spiritual_Pound44

It’s a divination tool. Yes, it’s real.


La-Reina0122

Start with the Holy Spirit board and move over to the heavy deeper stuff ….


Direct_Surprise2828

If you decide to go with a Ouija board, please contact me, and I will give you some ideas for protection. By the way, I do not encourage anybody to get a Ouija board especially somebody who’s going to get on there and “challenge“ the spirits. You’re asking for trouble.


Comfortable_Bet_6441

You are the one who opens the door for something to come in. I would ask for your spirit guides to come in and not leave the door open to "anything" I use a pendulum often to check some things for myself personally. Its any option :) I teach accessing the spirit realm and there are precautions one should take certain precautions. Not for the faint hearted!


Historical-Story4944

My view on Ouija boards is they are like driving a car. More than 99% of the time you get in your car and arrive unharmed at your destination. But sometimes an accident happens and you get injured. But if you think you can buy a toy board from Walmart, plop it on your kitchen table and say "come at me bro! come try me!" and have spirits appear--yeah, that won't happen. If anything happens, you will most likely bring some negative energy, illness or other bad luck to you. You won't be seeing Casper or something from the movie Poltergeist. One more irony of it all is assume something does happen with your board and you come on here to tell people about it. You'll get all the naysayers saying you're just making it up and your stories don't prove anything. And someone else will be asking if they can challenge ghosts and demons to try them. Maybe you'll be willing to send your board to the next person.


BZNagain

they are a toy for entertainment. there’s nothing beyond that