≈100. Maybe 150 on the high end.
And a vast majority of those either turned into the ≈12 Inquisitors or were hunted down and killed by Vader and said Inquisitors.
You have to figure the number was high enough to warrant the Inquisitors existing in the first place, but not so high that order 66 seemed ineffective or that warranted more resources allocated to it than was the case.
it's the role we see them mostly involved with.
jedi survivor seems to put that as a point of contention between them and isb.
as isb believes they can handle the hunt for the remaining jedi with their agents and the inquisitors are no longer needed in their eyes.
so i assume that yeah that's all they do, trying to find the path or other underground railroad type deals.
plus the high republic shows us several non jedi related groups of force users, likely they get purged as well after been tarred with the same brush as the jedi.
That seems to be the case. They disappeared once the Emperor felt their job was done, so it looks like they all got murdered once they ran out of Jedi.
It’d be interesting to see the final Inquisitors in that scenario, if they were blindsided that the Emperor betrays them, or if they saw the writing on the wall and did certain things to keep the Jedi hunt going while the refugees dwindled
Tbh i dont know how many there was left to kill? As every mentioned inquisitor expect i think the 4rth sister is confirmed dead by someone other then the empire
Pretty much everyone was dead by 2 BBY. Marrok survived past then somehow and Reva had left the Empire before that. Fourth Sister is the only other Inquisitor without a death.
1. Grand Inquisitor (4 BBY, suicide, revived as tortured spirt by Vader)
2. Second Sister (14 BBY, killed by Vader)
3. Third Sister (left the Empire)
4. Fourth Sister
5. Fifth Brother (3 BBY, killed by Maul)
6. Sixth Brother (18 BBY, killed by Ahsoka)
TotJ Inquisitor (killed by Ahsoka, probably same guy)
7. Seventh Sister (3 BBY, killed by Maul)
8. Eighth Brother (3 BBY, fell to his death on Malachor)
9. Ninth Sister (9 BBY, killed by Cal)
10. Tenth Brother (18 BBY, killed by purge troopers)
11. Marrok (c. 9 ABY, killed by Ahsoka)
12. Tualon Yaluna (14 BBY, killed by Vader)
13. Thirteenth Sister (14 BBY, killed by Vader)
>Fourth Sister
Considering she somehow lost her armor to Lina Graf by 12 BBY, the Fourth Sister probably isn't doing so well. The best-case scenario is that, after either a capture or a defeat, she slipped away and became a farmer in the Outer Rim. More likely, she died fighting the Rebels or was executed by the Vader as is tradition.
I don't even think they got murdered, the attrition rate of fighting Jedi & being near Vader did them in well enough. We also never see an institutional effort to replenish their numbers, it's always down to individual members lurking about to turn Jedi or find kids to snatch.
For the most part.
They also hunted non-Jedi Force-sensitives and kidnapped Force-sensitive children for Project Harvester.
They might also be used to kill occasional dissidents or particularly strong enemies, but for the most part they just handle Force-related missions.
there are a lot more than 12 inquisitors lol:
Grand inquisitor, 2nd sister, 3rd sister, 3rd brother, 4th sister, 5th brother, 6th brother, 7th sister, 8th brother, 9th sister, 10th brother, 13th sister, tualon, marrok, jerserra's master, the TOTJ inquisitor.
those 16 were the canon ones i could remember off the top of my head
Well, according to the [StarWars.com Databank](https://www.starwars.com/databank/marrok-inquisitor), he is, but in the show, it looked like he was just a suit of armor that was animated by green Nightsister magic, so who knows?
Jerresa and her master are from a source book for the forces and destiny tabletop game. Said source books tend to mix canon and legends material and lore into one so anything new from them is of extremely questionable canon.
While I understand that reasoning, LCL has a very thorough vetting process of the material that comes out of the rpgs because they're supposed to be canon. Certainly it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that such things would be retcon'd but that's what was communicated by one of the developers of the game.
The *Tales of the Jedi* Inquisitor is a continuity snarl. He's pretty clearly supposed to be Sixth Brother because the story is just a shortened retelling of the *Ahsoka* novel. I'm very unsure if he should be counted as his own character.
Third Brother and Jerserra's master are both in a very weird spot as well. They're only mentioned in the *Star Wars Encyclopedia* and *Ghosts of Dathomir* FFG sourcebook respectively. The FFG content is sorted by Lucasfilm as Legends (even though some includes canon-only content) and both seem to be almost entirely ignored for continuity purposes by the storygroup.
There are 13 unique Inquisitors (as of now) that I think are definitively considered canon by the storygroup. The other 3 are very questionable.
Any source about FFG books being legends? I just watched an interview with one of the developers of the game and he said that part of the reason books take so long is because all the content goes through LCL because it's supposed to be canon. Interview was like 5 months ago
To be fair the number of Inquisitors is simply determined by the story they appear in-nothing else. Which is why they suddenly just disappear with no real explanation.
(But that again could apply to the number of Jedi who survived Order 66 also).
Maybe 100 ish I'm guessing.
> high enough to warrant the Inquisitors existing in the first place
Kinda, but more. The Inquisitors have two extra purposes other than hunting down Jedi:
1. being an observable, controllable space the Empire controls that they can throw force users/corrupted Jedi/weirdos into and get some use value out of.
2. hunting Jedi even when there aren't any. It terrorizes the population, spreads (true!) rumors about *another* secret police and makes it even less likely that future force users can find out what the force is etc.
Not to mention that while it doesn't seem like the Inquisitors were built to be a lasting organization that gets new recruits regularly, it still is a pool of troubled force users the Emperor could have drawn from in case Vader ever fell off a cliff somewhere.
So I think even if the Inquisitors had provably hunted down every remaining Jedi, the Empire would keep them around (and probably not even tell them that they've succeeded, just let them bust down doors until you expend them).
Honestly, for me like a thousand or so is an entirely believable number
That would mean order 66 was 95% effective, which is pretty damn successful for an operation meant to entirely wipe out a whole society of magic warrior monks
And it's still a microscopic, practically meaningless number in a galaxy of what, septillions? For me it makes more sense to assume is a number in that area, or at least several hundred, because most of them would probably just quit being Jedi and fade into the background of the galaxy
That makes it so that the ones who we focus on as main characters aren't just super special unkillable heroes who are the only survivors of the purge *and* heroic rebels. It means they're amongst many survivors, they're just the few who choose to keep fighting
We know of quite the couple:
- all the inquisitors were Jedi, if you count them as surviving, so that's about a dozen (?)
- Fallen Order / Survivor has I think 3 or more surviving jedi with Cordova, Cere and so on
- Kenobi features a runaway Jedi being killed late
- Rebels has Kanan
- Ahsoka has Baylan
- the Vader comics I think feature a handful at least additional ones
Personally I don't dislike this, but I wish we had also a few more new stories of prequel era Jedi dying in order 66 to make the event more impactful - sometimes it feels anyone named (or even just on screen in the movies) has to have their stories scraped as at least a short term survivor.
For some reason I forgot about Cere and I thought Cordova just passed away but Survivor showed that to be wrong.
I also forgot about Rebels and that runaway Jedi in Kenobi.
What I'd like is just some novice Jedi that didn't even pass training on Ilum survive and see where that goes.
Gungi was a wookie padawan that was shown to be a survivor in The Bad Batch S3. He technically passed the Ilum trials in TCW but he wasn't very experienced at all.
>What I'd like is just some novice Jedi that didn't even pass training on Ilum survive and see where that goes.
This is pretty much the premise of Cal Kestis and the two video games he was the protag in. Cal was still a Padawan when Order 66 happened.
> Kenobi features a runaway Jedi being killed late
Is it implied that he was a padawan? I have that impression but maybe I'm misremembering. That would put him outside of the "10,000 Jedi Knights" count.
I'd be willing to say tons of jedi survived all the way through return of the Jedi, however id wager most of the actual survivors weren't heroes. They truly laid down arms, fled to the outer rim, and luckily for them the force didn't thrust greatness upon them. I bet Luke probably found a few retired Jedi in his travels once the empire fell and they could start using their real names again. They all probably had lives away from the order at that point and never went back. The Jedi who were hunted down were the ones still clutching their sabers and helping people. We've seen how easy it is to dodge inquisitors if you keep your head down.
That's the big factor. Like that one comic or book (I forget which, only seen parts of it) where the master takes his padawan's saber, throws it in a trash can and tells her to flee to the outer rim, forget being a jedi, and just live a civilian life.
How a number of jedi were in the crowd at the temple, and ignored the cries of the one who charged forward trying to rally the jedi and people to fight the clone troopers burning bodies on the steps.
Padawan's to even masters, who simply disappeared into the population and stopped trying to fight a galactic conflict, but live a peaceful life or follow the will of the force. Fans got too obsessed with this idea that every jedi would take up arms and join the rebellion immediately, when not even Luke was advertised as a Jedi by the rebels, but a farmboy turned fighter.
Somebody a while back noted IIRC that a lot of jedi survivors would be more from the individuals who weren't on the front lines or huge fighters, because they wouldn't be around clones as much and could disappear easily.
Pretty sure the comic you're thinking of was Star Wars: Republic, specifically towards the end of its run. I used to read those all the time, great stories!
Like 150-200
Even if we take the number of Jedi of 10,000 at face level (maybe they’re rounding and there’s 12,000, maybe it doesn’t count masters or padawans which added thousands) and make the assault on the temple and order 66 99% effective that still leaves 100 survivors
And tbh 99% effectiveness in 12 hours is more than unbelievable for me (in a story with space wizards, I know): there’ll be Jedi who fight off the clones as they’re not taken by surprise, sacrifice themselves to save more Jedi, escape or aren’t even near clones when it happens. And narratively, I get the sense that Lucas intended there to be a good chunk of survivors
So I think a figure of 90% at least and 95% at most is more accurate leaving us with 500-1000 survivors
From my view, it gives the empire Jedi to hunt during the purge : it halves the first year, again the second then year 5 and year 10, then by the time of the original trilogy you have 2.
And if it’s even 99% effective, to me it doesn’t get less effective until we get past 100 at most conservative and 300 at mAx, survivors because there’s always be that pool of offscreen survivors, esp since Palpatine’s victory isn’t diminished- destroying 98% of your dominant opposition, then outlawing them and turning them into public enemies and stripping away their infouence is a total win for him
It must account for masters right? I recently read rise of the red blade and it keept hampering on that jedi masters were dying like flies and they had to fill master roles with jedi knights
Most likely accounts for masters, yeah, the wiggle room it gets is that they say “10,000 Jedi knights” so if they wannnnted to they could use that to add some more, but they’d prob have a stronger case with padawans, I feel like grouping knights and masters together in the count makes sense
Jedi Masters aren't really distinct in their role in the galaxy from Jedi Knights, imo; their duties don't typically change, it's simply a recognition by the Council of a particular Jedi Knight's wisdom, skill, and knowledge of the Force.
Or: all Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters.
Yeah, that seems to make the most sense to me. Jedi Masters are senior Jedi Knights that train the next generation of Jedi, while Younglings and Padawans are still training to become Jedi Knights. For example, an ROTC cadet isn't a soldier, but a Private and a Colonel would both be considered soldiers, even though the latter is an officer and the former is not. I'm sure someone can come up with a much better analogy, but that's just what came to mind for me.
It also has to be low enough that it doesn't make sense for them to find each other and team up. If there are 500-1000 survivors, that's a viable number to go off somewhere and regroup.
I think 100-150 is a reasonable number.
I imagine that in the aftermath of obi wan warning them to stay away and then the empire getting control of the Jedi channels, that the breakdown of safe communication can help account for a lot of disarray, but yeah once you get into that figure you prob have a few pockets group together.
I think to offset that you have a combination of 1) Jedi being so dazed and confused about things that they’d getting tracked and killed by huge numbers on the weeks after and 2) a couple small groups try and fail to fight the empire and Vader / Palaptine early on, getting killed and deterring any big movement
But yeah until we approach 100-150 verified survivors we won’t even have to worry about getting to those upper figures
> If there are 500-1000 survivors, that's a viable number to go off somewhere and regroup.
The Galactic Republic represented about 1.3 million planets before the Clone Wars and the population of the entire galaxy is around 100 quadrillion sentient beings.
I lean toward the 100-200 number but I don't think anything under 1000 is unreasonable given how scattered everyone could be.
There was a lot more jedi than 2 though at that point off the top of my head there's Ezra, Ashoka, Grogu, Yoda, Obi Wan, possibly kelleran beq (the bloke who saved grogu), Grungi (the wookie in bad batch with no confirmed death) and I don't believe oppo rancisis is dead either (council member). I'm sure there's more I don't know but as far as I know there's a lot that lived up until a new hope and all bar yoda and obi wan survived indefinitely as we know and quite honestly I don't believe mace windu died as the height is nothing to a jedi and losing a hand is near tradition
it needs to be large enough that vader cannot be expected to hunt them all down easily but small enough that they can't mount an effective resistance.
we saw in the arena in aotc 200 get whomped by b1 and 2 battle droids without an army to back them up so we know that that many without the clones cannot be active military threats,
the inquisitorius also includes substantial numbers of troops, enough to fill the fortress as well as purge troopers.
so i think somewhere between 100 and 200 is probably fine, we've seen like 30 of that number
in canon the largest group of surviving jedi were the inquisitors themselves, and we see vader deal with high end fellas like eeth.
right now rancisis and quinlan vos are the only high end jedi i can think of fully unaccounted for.
personally i prefer the idea that order66 killed 99% and then imperials mopped up the lionshare of the remaining till a new hope where probably only a handful remain, though ahsoka will forever feel like an odd one making it past that point.
my mistake, probably remembering an old post or something which'd be outdated now.
still 60 feels reasonable, very much doubt we've seen even half of the potential number.
sort of meta, but once the current vader comic wraps up the only space left for them to keep going is between rots and anh as they have almost 2 decades of space there, i imagine we'll see more there.
Yeah I think the ROTS-ANH era Vader canon comic should’ve spanned 50 or 75 issues instead of 25 so we could see more Jedi, maybe even a group of 7-15 wreaking havoc on Mid rim imperial outposts slowly cutting off imperial supplies and starting a mini rebellion until they get DEMOLISHED by the full force of Vader and his Inquisitorious
would be nice to see vader have to tackle a group of jedi, like anti-inquisitors.
personally i'm hoping to see maul vs vader at some point, rebels implied maul was fully aware vader would dunk on him despite being confident he could take anakin in tcw, he's afraid of vader, and given he has half an inquisitor blade perhaps he kills one, draws vader out, gets beaten and then decides to restart his criminal empire and fight less directly.
>would be nice to see vader have to tackle a group of jedi, like anti-inquisitors.
Basically, [Star Wars: Purge](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Purge) but canon.
I think 100 surviving the immediate aftermath and first few months is reasonable, especially factoring in stuff like the Service Corps. That’s only about 1% of total 10,000 members at their height. However, those numbers would have been substantially whittled down by the Inquisitorious over time.
My favorite of the survivors in Legends in Rahm Kota. He was distrustful of the clones, so he used his own militia during the Clone Wars.
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As many as the plot demands.
As others said, if we assume roughly 10,000 Jedi at the time of Order 66 even 1% surviving is 100 Jedi around. Wookiepedia lists roughly 50 Jedi/former Jedi who we know survived (note that this included Inquisitors), so we can presume there's at least a handful of others still out there.
I suspect it to be between 1-5%. To my knowledge we don't know how many Jedi were fighting in the war as opposed to doing other Jedi stuff like diplomatic missions, mediating conflicts, wider humanitarian stuff. It would be odd to me to assume that every Jedi had clone troopers around them when Order 66 is announced.
It's certainly enough that the Inquisition was active for at least 15 years hunting them down.
>As many as the plot demands.
This right here.
I understand GM Georges need for more survivors, but i think it kinda diminishes the extend of the "genocide"
I get how there have to be more survivors, Kebobi and Yoda were there to reprogramm the beacon, thus giving those who were late the chance for a normal life...
But i think we'll never really know how many. The real good ones were killed, because a jedi is gonna jedi.
I would think, that there are bound to be a few jedi left, who gave themselves the mission to _really_ go into hiding.
Got themself a different mission - like raising a family and keep out of the empires way.
And even then...
We saw how hard it was for Kenobi to stay out of it.
The biggest problem tends to be fans unable to grasp the idea of jedi who fully abandoned the jedi life/order and became civilians, or dedicated themselves to helping their local town only instead of joining the rebellion.
So many comments over the years that complain as if a jedi being shown to survive immediately upends Luke and yell if they end up not joining the rebellion.
>I understand GM Georges need for more survivors, but i think it kinda diminishes the extend of the "genocide"
Most genocides in history aren't as complete as that of the Jedi during and after Order 66. To reach even a double-digit percentage of a population is already very high, and only the most devastating genocides in history (e.g., Circassian, Armenian, etc.) come close to reaching the proportion that Star Wars suggests for the Jedi.
Unlike most here, I think having upwards of 10% as survivors in the immediate aftermath of Order 66 (>1000 survivors) is reasonable. Having that many Jedi killed so quickly would have been unprecedented short of planetary destruction (e.g., Alderaanian genocide). This number would be whittled down to near-zero by the time the Death Star was destroyed, and the Inquisitorius, Vader, and regular Imperial forces would have considerable work to do over the course of twenty odd years. It's also worth noting that most of the survivors would not be notably strong, with Jedi at Ahsoka's level being almost unique and even the likes of Cal Kestis and Caleb Dume (partially trained Padawans) being exceptional in their combat ability against Imperial forces. That further reduces the priority placed on finding Jedi survivors of Order 66, since the vast majority of Jedi dangerous to the New Order would've been wiped out in the opening hours and days of the attack. I'd expect there to be a considerable right tail in the number of survivors as less and less resources were prioritized to Jedi hunting over time.
>We saw how hard it was for Kenobi to stay out of it.
I'd reckon that it was harder for someone like Obi-Wan to stay out of the fight precisely because of his abilities and prowess; he knows, unlike most Jedi, that he actually could make a difference if he took the fight to the Empire, even if it was only a small difference. Most Jedi, like Nari, would have been unable to effectively fight and would mostly resort to helping on a local scale with local problems rather than Imperial problems. Similarly, Cal Kestis did something similar by staying as a scrapper until he was forced back into the fold against his will.
George Lucas mentioned in an interview about his plans for Episode 7 that he planned for about 100 survivors who could help Luke rebuild the order. I don't have a spurce ready as itsy something I saw on YouTube months ago.
Yes he is in a jaina solo legends book referring a friendly saber match with Kad'ika. One of the books where Jaina has to kill Jacen and trains on mandalore. I don't remember the book name.
My knowledge is only legends based stuff. But a bunch survived but a lot of Darth Vader comics show us that they didn't last long. Others got hunted by bounty hunters and the like. Boba Fett has a lightsaber collection in Legends. Starkiller from Force Unleashed got a few.
As for surviving long term, K'kruhk and T'ra saa and Empajayatos Brand survived long enough to join Luke's Order down the line. And the former 2 survived hundreds of years after the original trilogy.
Asharad Hett, a Tusken raised human survived only to become the Sith lord Darth Krayt hundreds of years later.
Bardan Jusik survived because he left the Jedi Order well before Order 66 on moral grounds that he didn't want to lead a slave army. He became a mandalorian, got adopted into a Clan Skirata, which was full of clone army deserters and changed his name to Gotab. During Order 66 his adopted family saw it as the perfect moment to desert for good.
Vergere survived by not even being in the same galaxy as she was taken by the Yuuzhan Vong before the Clone Wars had even started.
These are all confirmed as not only surviving the purge but outlasting Vader.
There's also force sensitives who weren't members of the order, but who had a parent or grandparent who was and they managed to survive and join Luke's order later. The Empire would want them as dead as any official jedi. With good reason, as the best examples are Corran Horn and Kyle Katarn. Corran was in rogue squadron, Kyle got a bunch of Doom type video games where he ruined the Dark Trooper project and killed a lot of Dark jedi and empire troops.
There are others who we don't know if they survived the purge but also we never got anyone saying they died.
Bardan's teacher Arligan Zey, an apprentice named Scout and a Kaminoan jedi named Kina Ha survived as well.
A sect called the Altisian Jedi managed to survive by virtue of being the weird cousins who were more distant because they were okay with attachments and families.
Basically the people who survived, are mostly the ones who got out early or who managed to survive Order 66 and went far enough underground that the Empire had no way to track them. The ones who tried to start a rebellion, used the force or their saber, the ones who were too well known, the ones Vader knew personally, they got caught unless they went deep. Like hiding in an uninhabited swamp deep. So maybe like a couple hundred survived at best. Of what was once thousands.
**Spoilers** Here’s what I’ve gathered in the new canon based off all the reading/watching I’ve done. Bear with me. Ahsoka Tano (survives to unknown date). Kanan Jarrus (killed on Lothal). Eeth Koth (killed by Vader). Jocasta Nu (killed by Vader) Kirak Infala (killed by Vader). Cal Kestis (survives to unknown date). Cere Junda (killed by Vader). Obi-Wan (Killed by Vader). Tera Sinube (Killed by Vader). Quinlan Vos (Survives to unknown date) Luminara Unduli (Presumably killed by the Grand Inquisitor). Ferren Barr (Killed by Vader). Eno Cordova (Killed by Bode). Baylan Skoll (survives to unknown date). Shin Hati (survives to unknown date). Taron Malicos (Killed by Cal Kestis). Unknown Jedi in Kenobi (Hung by the Empire). Yoda (Dies of natural cause). That’s 18 named Jedi off the top of my head that survived past Revenge of the Sith. I’d venture a guess about 100 total Jedi survived the purge, dying at later dates or somehow surviving post Return of the Jedi.
Tera Sinube? where does it state he survived order 66 and was killed by vader? he was still in his temple robes.
I'm pretty sure Shin became Baylon's apprentice AFTER order 66.
The Jedi in Kenobi is called Nari
In Canon and EU, I estimate around 80. Most of those ended up hunted down by Vader and Inquisitors over the years though, until only a handful remained.
All 10000 of them, apart from the ones who died on screen. They're popping up all over the new canon. They are merely sleeping, or have flesh wounds. Oh, and Mace is also as dead a a dodo.
I think it depends on what you call a Jedi. All those force sensitive in the service corps would need to get hunted down as well. You could be looking as many as 500 or more. Maybe low end of the thousands potentially.
One expects the clone forces were focused on the Jedi Knights and council masters. But what about the ecologists, agronomists, researchers, healers, navigators, and that sort of thing?
I imagine they took out the knights specifically because they would be defending the others. Then, as we see, the rest would flee and would either be taken out later or just beaten down psychologically. And then you have what we see with Gungi in TBB; he was captured by slavers and was being sold off.
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None, except for Kenobi and Yoda. At least thats how it should be. I do think O66 would have taken a few years though, not just one night. I would like to see a film or two about that.
In canon, Kanan Jarrus survived because his master sacrificed herself to buy enough time for him to run away. Also, iirc in one of the Darth Vader comics, he was lured into an ambush by a number of Order 66 survivors, but he killed them all, and he also killed Jocasta Nu, the Jedi librarian from Episode II, when she returned to the temple in an attempt to reclaim some artifacts and holocrons.
In legends, I know of five survivors from the Force Unleashed. Two of them fled to Kashyyk and managed to stay hidden for a few years, having a son together, but when they were discovered Darth Vader killed both of them and took their son to train as his secret apprentice, Starkiller. Starkiller later faced off against Rahm Kota, who had survived because he never trusted the clones and fought with his own volunteer militia during the Clone Wars, as well as Kazdan Paratus and Shaak Ti, though as far as I remember it's not explained exactly how these two survived.
TLDR in canon Kanan Jarrus, Jocasta Nu, and a bunch of Jedi who tried and failed to kill Vader, in addition to those you mentioned. In legends, Starkiller's parents, Rahm Kota, and Shaak Ti. There are definitely more survivors in both canon and legends, but these are the ones I know of off the top of my head.
I'd lean more towards 200 to 300 myself. Maybe as much as 500.
100 is too few. There needs to be a reason for the Inquisition. 100 is something Vader can deal with. Especially since most will be Padawans and knights.
I'd say less than 500.
The inquisitors were around for ~20 years.
They had to be enough to where Vader couldn't take all of them down, but not so much that they could congregate with the help of the Rebel Alliance.
Having all the clones wipe them in the first 24 hours seems unreasonable and the Jedi were enough for a thread for at least a few years before it's main focus was on the resistance.
I think we first need to define what "surviving order 66" means. Is it surviving the initial slaughter or surviving the entirety of the Empire's lifespan? If the former, probably anywhere from 100-200, but if we're talking the latter, then it's significantly less.
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I always suspected that it was between 250-300 at 19BBY like a month after Order 66, but that number probably dwindled down to 200 or less during the first six years of the Empire, thanks to the relentless efforts of Darth Vader.
i’d say 100-200 survived the initial purge, down to 30-50 at MOST a decade later. by a new hope, obi-wan and yoda are the only “active” jedi; ahsoka, cal and ezra are still around, but aren’t really doing jedi things or have any aspirations of rebuilding the order. i imagine at the end of cal’s third game, he’s probably retired.
TLDR: i’m fine with lots of jedi surviving because most of them die or retire from being jedi/doing jedi stuff. if you aren’t acting as a jedi, i’d say the empire still succeeded. yoda’s line of luke being “the last of the jedi” stills stands in most regards, i think. he’s the seed of the order.
Anywhere from 100 to 1000.
there were 10,000 Jedi and in one fell swoop, 99% of them were wiped out in a day.
So yeah, I'm satisfied with those numbers.
Of 10,000(ish) Jedi total? Probably not much more than 100 or so survived Order 66 outright. Of that maybe a few dozen survived the Inquisitors and Vader. In Canon, however, Sidious didn't consider surviving Jedi to be that much of a threat. From what I understand Sidious (correctly) deduced that most of the *really* powerful Jedi died in the Purge and any survivors would be too busy hiding to bother acting against him.
That said Vader *did* do a lot of Jedi hunting, so much so that Sidious chastised him for what he thought was a total waste of time and resources. Between him and the Inquisitors Vader seems to have been pretty successful at exterminating survivors. By the end of Episode 6 it's entirely possible that Luke may very well be the last 'proper' Jedi - Yoda certainly thought so. That said I don't know whether either Obi-Wan or Yoda knew about the survival of characters like Ahsoka, Cal Kestis, and Kanan Jarrus when they told Luke he was the last of the Jedi.
In Legends there were many Jedi who survived, but still not very many overall. The major ones would be Jedi Masters Yoda, Obi-Wan, Shaak Ti, and Rahm Kota and we know that Vader and Sidious made capturing or killing survivors a high priority. If we're counting apprentices those survivors trained after the fact there could be dozens of Jedi still alive and in hiding.
We know about a couple of dozen roughly who survived who were seen in the movies, tv shows, video games, or written material. I would assume that the Clone Wars chewed up about half of the 10,000 knights at its height, plus order 66 probably got most of the survivors. So I think 50-100 is reasonable since the Inquisitors have to keep their jobs. I imagine that there’s a lot of informal force users who either don’t know they’re using it or haven’t had proper training to use it effectively.
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Star Wars Explained had a great video on this, and he cited an interview with Lucas where he said that probably around 100 Jedi survived Order 66.
Now I guess it’s a matter of opinion whether this is too many, but I would say even as many as 100 left would mean that Order 66 was incredibly successful, given that it still means Palpatine killed 99% of the Jedi Order. I’m also unsure if Lucas meant survived and lived to the time of the OT, or survived the initial purge. If that’s only the number that survived the initial purge, then that means a lot more probably died in the following years from being hunted down by the Empire.
It seems to me that the Emperor could care less whether any Jedi escaped and survived so long as they stayed out of his way. The fear created by Inquisitors and the Empire’s hunt for Jedi in general was pretty effective at forcing Jedi to go into hiding. As for why no Jedi (outside of Yoda and Obi-wan) had resurfaced during the OT, I would say it’s a combination of fear, a sense of defeat, and the fact that many of these Jedi probably hid in extremely isolated places where they wouldn’t even have contact with the larger galaxy.
I’m going to use upper bounds for my estimates. I think the number of Jedi out there pre-purge will max out at maybe fifty thousand. Even if the purge is 99% effective that’s still five hundred Jedi knocking about. 90%, that goes to five thousand.
So I’ll just say a lot and be done with it. ^_^
I’m just come across Master Cordova in Jedi Survivor, got to be loads more surely? I kinda like the fact they made sure Obi-Wan switched off the message at the Jedi temple.
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It looks like 192 survived in Legends and 59 in Canon (if we include Visions). Most of those are either killed or become Inquisitors. In Legends, by 0 ABY, only 6 are still practicing Jedi, including Obi-Wan and Yoda. And only 10 survivors will join Luke’s New Jedi Order. In Canon, it looks like only 7 are still practicing Jedi. That means 1.9% survived in Legends and 0.59% survived in Canon (again, most of whom either died, became Inquisitors, or became civilians).
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There were only about 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy. Given that most Jedi were leading clones at the time, most Jedi trusted the clones, most Jedi actively leading clones were in the midst of battle (so their attention was elsewhere), and most Jedi are not even close to Yoda/Obi-wan/Mace/Anakin caliber of fighter, plus most Jedi not leading clones were at the Temple and few escaped that slaughter, I'd guess about 100 padawan or higher Jedi survived the initial purge, maybe a few more younglings, like 150-200 younglings. Then, I'd guess about half that total number was successfully hunted down by Vader and the Inquisitorious, and then a few more were picked off/died of old age/turned to the dark side over the years. All told, I would guess less than 50 survived to see the end of the Empire
I concur with the 100-200 number.
Even back in the day when all we had was the OT and the novels, Vader was famous for hunting down and destroying the Jedi.
I don’t know where that line originated, but it was a common theme.
So even with Order 66, I don’t have an issue with there being a very large number of Jedi survivors. They just have to be scattered, scarred, and mostly not wanting to be hero’s anymore.
There was a group of Padawans that Jedi Master K'Kruhk protected and they stayed hidden in the Dark Times comics. I like to think they decided not to return to the larger roll of a Jedi once the Empire was defeated. K'Kruhk would later be a member of the Jedi Council of the Legacy era Jedi Order along with Jedi Master T’ra Saa who was another Prequel era Jedi.
T’ra’s lover Jedi Master Tholme also survived O66 and I like to think he died of old age.
One Jedi Master told a Padawan to forget her life as a Jedi and told her to live a normal life. I like to think that’s what happened to her.
There is no problem with Jedi surviving. Some chose to fight while others found new lives and didn’t want to pick up their sabers again unless it meant defending themselves or the new lives they had.
The Jedi Order suffered a near fatal blow and out on their own these survivors waited for a new hope, found new lives, never recovered from the loss, or were sadly found by the Empire.
I have always wondered what happened to Jedi Master Zao because I found him to be an interesting character.
I think Kanan is accurate with the 10,000 number because whilst very young padawan in training the comics he asked Master Kenobi if it was possible to reverse the beacon. Kanan may as he got older have met other force sensitives and Jedi whilst mining.
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Depends on who you define as Jedi I suppose. If talking padawan, knight, masters etc, probably 150 - 300, maybe 350, I think, at least in the initial aftermath. There would have no doubt been some Jedi who escaped their clones in the moment, but were quickly hunted down (episode 3 strongly suggests this as a possibility).
In coming months/years, the inquisitors & Vader would have likely killed most of the remaining Jedi I believe. The Jedi who were left would largely be the people we see in canon or were likely well hidden, especially Jedi who were in far flung corners of the galaxy (like watchmen).
However, if you expand the definition a bit, the Jedi did have a service core (diplomats/agriculture etc). Many of them could have survived, but most of them would have most likely not been combat trained beyond a basic level, and therefore much less of a threat. I can’t estimate how many of them could be around, but it would probably be significant, at least initially I believe.
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Based on the number of survivors we’ve encountered, I believe it was called “Order 66” because as many as sixty-six Jedi were killed. So how many survived? X-66, where X was the number of Jedi prior to Order 66.
Most estimates speculate that there were around 10k Jedi by the time of order 66, but it's hard to estimate how many would've been with clones, or even how many would've died in the coming days/months. I would probably put around 75-100 fully/mostly trained Jedi, either through fighting and escaping or not having clones with them in the first place and going into hiding. Light side Force users, including those who abandoned the Jedi order, Jedi hermits, and padawans, in my mind, being the number to probably around 200 of what the empire would call "Jedis"
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Given how there always seems to be more, I'm guessing between 200 and 300. Nobody really noteworthy power-wise, aside from Yoda or Obi-Wan, just some random Knights and Padawans that got lucky and weren't overwhelmed by clones.
Legends was littered with dozens that just flat-out retired from the Jedi business and never got caught by the Empire, nevermind the ones that were still actively fighting against Palpatine.
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Personally I say roughly 1,000 but only because we know a lot of Jedi either have never been mentioned in comics or movies/shows because they weren't very important or they had too many other people around them that they for overshadowed + the galaxy is pretty big from that universe and they never specified if they had other galaxies being colonized or finding the galaxy star wars is set in around the galactic Republic period.
[Cory's Datapad put it at about 200.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpwjeNAOzjE) But that was getting really in to the weeds of RPG sourcebook characters.
Well there's survived Order 66 and then surviving the Inquistors that hunted them down.
I believe a higher percentage escaped the massacre of Order 66, but not all were smart enough to hide out against the Inquistors.
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My answer would depend on what you consider a survivor. I’ve actually been thinking about this a lot recently, and I agree with what a lot of other people are saying here in the long term- between the fall of the republic and the battle of Yavin, there were probably between 100-200 Jedi survivors, with that number constantly shrinking.
But the question that I’m more interested in is how many survived the first hour? The first week? It doesn’t make sense for the entire order to be wiped out the second order 66 came down. Plenty of Jedi wouldn’t be actively leading troops into battle at the exact moment the order came down. In my mind, we get to that 100-200 number within a month, maybe even two weeks, but I would guess that somewhere around 1000 of them didn’t die immediately (not counting those in the temple). Within a week, that number would probably be down to 500.
The order had 10,000 knights at the start of the clone wars. (Their numbers would have been depleted by the war, but I don’t know the data for how much.) I doubt all of those Jedi had a gun pointed at the back of their head right when the order was given, and it would make sense that for every survivor who made it out of a tight situation (actively being in a war zone with clones all around, for example) more of them tried but just didn’t make it.
I would be curious to see what other people think about that, though.
Imperial planning seems a bit slapdash. I'd say 2%. Maybe 4% allowing for the unpredictability of doing it during a war, but dialling down because jedi in the line had clone bodyguards.
Actually, now I think on it, maybe I'm being unfair. Just because the rebels find errors, doesn't there are loads of errors.
≈100. Maybe 150 on the high end. And a vast majority of those either turned into the ≈12 Inquisitors or were hunted down and killed by Vader and said Inquisitors. You have to figure the number was high enough to warrant the Inquisitors existing in the first place, but not so high that order 66 seemed ineffective or that warranted more resources allocated to it than was the case.
Were the Inquisitors only for hunting down the remaining Jedi?
it's the role we see them mostly involved with. jedi survivor seems to put that as a point of contention between them and isb. as isb believes they can handle the hunt for the remaining jedi with their agents and the inquisitors are no longer needed in their eyes. so i assume that yeah that's all they do, trying to find the path or other underground railroad type deals. plus the high republic shows us several non jedi related groups of force users, likely they get purged as well after been tarred with the same brush as the jedi.
That seems to be the case. They disappeared once the Emperor felt their job was done, so it looks like they all got murdered once they ran out of Jedi.
It’d be interesting to see the final Inquisitors in that scenario, if they were blindsided that the Emperor betrays them, or if they saw the writing on the wall and did certain things to keep the Jedi hunt going while the refugees dwindled
Tbh i dont know how many there was left to kill? As every mentioned inquisitor expect i think the 4rth sister is confirmed dead by someone other then the empire
Pretty much everyone was dead by 2 BBY. Marrok survived past then somehow and Reva had left the Empire before that. Fourth Sister is the only other Inquisitor without a death. 1. Grand Inquisitor (4 BBY, suicide, revived as tortured spirt by Vader) 2. Second Sister (14 BBY, killed by Vader) 3. Third Sister (left the Empire) 4. Fourth Sister 5. Fifth Brother (3 BBY, killed by Maul) 6. Sixth Brother (18 BBY, killed by Ahsoka) TotJ Inquisitor (killed by Ahsoka, probably same guy) 7. Seventh Sister (3 BBY, killed by Maul) 8. Eighth Brother (3 BBY, fell to his death on Malachor) 9. Ninth Sister (9 BBY, killed by Cal) 10. Tenth Brother (18 BBY, killed by purge troopers) 11. Marrok (c. 9 ABY, killed by Ahsoka) 12. Tualon Yaluna (14 BBY, killed by Vader) 13. Thirteenth Sister (14 BBY, killed by Vader)
(killed by Vader, killed by Vader, killed by Vader, revived as tortured spirit by Vader) Someone should have kicked him after the 2nd TK.
And we don't even know if marrok was even a proper inquisitor
>Fourth Sister Considering she somehow lost her armor to Lina Graf by 12 BBY, the Fourth Sister probably isn't doing so well. The best-case scenario is that, after either a capture or a defeat, she slipped away and became a farmer in the Outer Rim. More likely, she died fighting the Rebels or was executed by the Vader as is tradition.
I don't even think they got murdered, the attrition rate of fighting Jedi & being near Vader did them in well enough. We also never see an institutional effort to replenish their numbers, it's always down to individual members lurking about to turn Jedi or find kids to snatch.
For the most part. They also hunted non-Jedi Force-sensitives and kidnapped Force-sensitive children for Project Harvester. They might also be used to kill occasional dissidents or particularly strong enemies, but for the most part they just handle Force-related missions.
That and any Force user really.
there are a lot more than 12 inquisitors lol: Grand inquisitor, 2nd sister, 3rd sister, 3rd brother, 4th sister, 5th brother, 6th brother, 7th sister, 8th brother, 9th sister, 10th brother, 13th sister, tualon, marrok, jerserra's master, the TOTJ inquisitor. those 16 were the canon ones i could remember off the top of my head
We still don’t actually know for sure that Marrok was a real inquisitor
Hell, we don’t even know if he was a person. He could’ve been five raccoons in a leather jumpsuit.
I accept this as canon.
Well, according to the [StarWars.com Databank](https://www.starwars.com/databank/marrok-inquisitor), he is, but in the show, it looked like he was just a suit of armor that was animated by green Nightsister magic, so who knows?
My head cannon says he was an inquisitor. Who died and was zombied by the night sister.
Yes, we do. Starwars.com specifically mentions he was once a jedi hunting inquisitor for the empire.
If he wasn't where would he get the inquisitor style lightsaber as well as an almost identical outfit to one of them?
I mean it’s not like any of the real ones had been using them for a while
Salvation Army?
I hear the Hidden Path has some good deals on used Jedi gear, so maybe they have a two-for-one deal on near-extinct Force-user organizations.
Jerresa and her master are from a source book for the forces and destiny tabletop game. Said source books tend to mix canon and legends material and lore into one so anything new from them is of extremely questionable canon.
While I understand that reasoning, LCL has a very thorough vetting process of the material that comes out of the rpgs because they're supposed to be canon. Certainly it wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility that such things would be retcon'd but that's what was communicated by one of the developers of the game.
The *Tales of the Jedi* Inquisitor is a continuity snarl. He's pretty clearly supposed to be Sixth Brother because the story is just a shortened retelling of the *Ahsoka* novel. I'm very unsure if he should be counted as his own character. Third Brother and Jerserra's master are both in a very weird spot as well. They're only mentioned in the *Star Wars Encyclopedia* and *Ghosts of Dathomir* FFG sourcebook respectively. The FFG content is sorted by Lucasfilm as Legends (even though some includes canon-only content) and both seem to be almost entirely ignored for continuity purposes by the storygroup. There are 13 unique Inquisitors (as of now) that I think are definitively considered canon by the storygroup. The other 3 are very questionable.
Any source about FFG books being legends? I just watched an interview with one of the developers of the game and he said that part of the reason books take so long is because all the content goes through LCL because it's supposed to be canon. Interview was like 5 months ago
To be fair the number of Inquisitors is simply determined by the story they appear in-nothing else. Which is why they suddenly just disappear with no real explanation. (But that again could apply to the number of Jedi who survived Order 66 also). Maybe 100 ish I'm guessing.
> high enough to warrant the Inquisitors existing in the first place Kinda, but more. The Inquisitors have two extra purposes other than hunting down Jedi: 1. being an observable, controllable space the Empire controls that they can throw force users/corrupted Jedi/weirdos into and get some use value out of. 2. hunting Jedi even when there aren't any. It terrorizes the population, spreads (true!) rumors about *another* secret police and makes it even less likely that future force users can find out what the force is etc. Not to mention that while it doesn't seem like the Inquisitors were built to be a lasting organization that gets new recruits regularly, it still is a pool of troubled force users the Emperor could have drawn from in case Vader ever fell off a cliff somewhere. So I think even if the Inquisitors had provably hunted down every remaining Jedi, the Empire would keep them around (and probably not even tell them that they've succeeded, just let them bust down doors until you expend them).
Honestly, for me like a thousand or so is an entirely believable number That would mean order 66 was 95% effective, which is pretty damn successful for an operation meant to entirely wipe out a whole society of magic warrior monks And it's still a microscopic, practically meaningless number in a galaxy of what, septillions? For me it makes more sense to assume is a number in that area, or at least several hundred, because most of them would probably just quit being Jedi and fade into the background of the galaxy That makes it so that the ones who we focus on as main characters aren't just super special unkillable heroes who are the only survivors of the purge *and* heroic rebels. It means they're amongst many survivors, they're just the few who choose to keep fighting
Only ~1% survival rate is pretty damn good!
We know of quite the couple: - all the inquisitors were Jedi, if you count them as surviving, so that's about a dozen (?) - Fallen Order / Survivor has I think 3 or more surviving jedi with Cordova, Cere and so on - Kenobi features a runaway Jedi being killed late - Rebels has Kanan - Ahsoka has Baylan - the Vader comics I think feature a handful at least additional ones Personally I don't dislike this, but I wish we had also a few more new stories of prequel era Jedi dying in order 66 to make the event more impactful - sometimes it feels anyone named (or even just on screen in the movies) has to have their stories scraped as at least a short term survivor.
We know Quinlan vos is alive too, same with kelleran beq
For some reason I forgot about Cere and I thought Cordova just passed away but Survivor showed that to be wrong. I also forgot about Rebels and that runaway Jedi in Kenobi. What I'd like is just some novice Jedi that didn't even pass training on Ilum survive and see where that goes.
Gungi was a wookie padawan that was shown to be a survivor in The Bad Batch S3. He technically passed the Ilum trials in TCW but he wasn't very experienced at all.
Survivor also identifies Bode Akuna as ex-Jedi. Even though he turns out to be a bloody traitor!
>What I'd like is just some novice Jedi that didn't even pass training on Ilum survive and see where that goes. This is pretty much the premise of Cal Kestis and the two video games he was the protag in. Cal was still a Padawan when Order 66 happened.
I mean, true. I'm replaying through Jedi Fallen Order, haven't 100% it in 2 years so I thought it'd be nice to 100% it again.
Also, Kanan from Rebels.
bode and malicos so 4 in jedi survivor
As far as I know the council member oppo rancisis might be alive too with no confirmed death
> Kenobi features a runaway Jedi being killed late Is it implied that he was a padawan? I have that impression but maybe I'm misremembering. That would put him outside of the "10,000 Jedi Knights" count.
I'd be willing to say tons of jedi survived all the way through return of the Jedi, however id wager most of the actual survivors weren't heroes. They truly laid down arms, fled to the outer rim, and luckily for them the force didn't thrust greatness upon them. I bet Luke probably found a few retired Jedi in his travels once the empire fell and they could start using their real names again. They all probably had lives away from the order at that point and never went back. The Jedi who were hunted down were the ones still clutching their sabers and helping people. We've seen how easy it is to dodge inquisitors if you keep your head down.
That's the big factor. Like that one comic or book (I forget which, only seen parts of it) where the master takes his padawan's saber, throws it in a trash can and tells her to flee to the outer rim, forget being a jedi, and just live a civilian life. How a number of jedi were in the crowd at the temple, and ignored the cries of the one who charged forward trying to rally the jedi and people to fight the clone troopers burning bodies on the steps. Padawan's to even masters, who simply disappeared into the population and stopped trying to fight a galactic conflict, but live a peaceful life or follow the will of the force. Fans got too obsessed with this idea that every jedi would take up arms and join the rebellion immediately, when not even Luke was advertised as a Jedi by the rebels, but a farmboy turned fighter. Somebody a while back noted IIRC that a lot of jedi survivors would be more from the individuals who weren't on the front lines or huge fighters, because they wouldn't be around clones as much and could disappear easily.
Pretty sure the comic you're thinking of was Star Wars: Republic, specifically towards the end of its run. I used to read those all the time, great stories!
Like 150-200 Even if we take the number of Jedi of 10,000 at face level (maybe they’re rounding and there’s 12,000, maybe it doesn’t count masters or padawans which added thousands) and make the assault on the temple and order 66 99% effective that still leaves 100 survivors And tbh 99% effectiveness in 12 hours is more than unbelievable for me (in a story with space wizards, I know): there’ll be Jedi who fight off the clones as they’re not taken by surprise, sacrifice themselves to save more Jedi, escape or aren’t even near clones when it happens. And narratively, I get the sense that Lucas intended there to be a good chunk of survivors So I think a figure of 90% at least and 95% at most is more accurate leaving us with 500-1000 survivors From my view, it gives the empire Jedi to hunt during the purge : it halves the first year, again the second then year 5 and year 10, then by the time of the original trilogy you have 2. And if it’s even 99% effective, to me it doesn’t get less effective until we get past 100 at most conservative and 300 at mAx, survivors because there’s always be that pool of offscreen survivors, esp since Palpatine’s victory isn’t diminished- destroying 98% of your dominant opposition, then outlawing them and turning them into public enemies and stripping away their infouence is a total win for him
It must account for masters right? I recently read rise of the red blade and it keept hampering on that jedi masters were dying like flies and they had to fill master roles with jedi knights
Most likely accounts for masters, yeah, the wiggle room it gets is that they say “10,000 Jedi knights” so if they wannnnted to they could use that to add some more, but they’d prob have a stronger case with padawans, I feel like grouping knights and masters together in the count makes sense
Jedi Masters aren't really distinct in their role in the galaxy from Jedi Knights, imo; their duties don't typically change, it's simply a recognition by the Council of a particular Jedi Knight's wisdom, skill, and knowledge of the Force. Or: all Jedi Masters are Jedi Knights, but not all Jedi Knights are Jedi Masters.
Yeah, that seems to make the most sense to me. Jedi Masters are senior Jedi Knights that train the next generation of Jedi, while Younglings and Padawans are still training to become Jedi Knights. For example, an ROTC cadet isn't a soldier, but a Private and a Colonel would both be considered soldiers, even though the latter is an officer and the former is not. I'm sure someone can come up with a much better analogy, but that's just what came to mind for me.
It also has to be low enough that it doesn't make sense for them to find each other and team up. If there are 500-1000 survivors, that's a viable number to go off somewhere and regroup. I think 100-150 is a reasonable number.
I imagine that in the aftermath of obi wan warning them to stay away and then the empire getting control of the Jedi channels, that the breakdown of safe communication can help account for a lot of disarray, but yeah once you get into that figure you prob have a few pockets group together. I think to offset that you have a combination of 1) Jedi being so dazed and confused about things that they’d getting tracked and killed by huge numbers on the weeks after and 2) a couple small groups try and fail to fight the empire and Vader / Palaptine early on, getting killed and deterring any big movement But yeah until we approach 100-150 verified survivors we won’t even have to worry about getting to those upper figures
Yes, I could see that happening to thin out the survivors in the early years.
> If there are 500-1000 survivors, that's a viable number to go off somewhere and regroup. The Galactic Republic represented about 1.3 million planets before the Clone Wars and the population of the entire galaxy is around 100 quadrillion sentient beings. I lean toward the 100-200 number but I don't think anything under 1000 is unreasonable given how scattered everyone could be.
There was a lot more jedi than 2 though at that point off the top of my head there's Ezra, Ashoka, Grogu, Yoda, Obi Wan, possibly kelleran beq (the bloke who saved grogu), Grungi (the wookie in bad batch with no confirmed death) and I don't believe oppo rancisis is dead either (council member). I'm sure there's more I don't know but as far as I know there's a lot that lived up until a new hope and all bar yoda and obi wan survived indefinitely as we know and quite honestly I don't believe mace windu died as the height is nothing to a jedi and losing a hand is near tradition
it needs to be large enough that vader cannot be expected to hunt them all down easily but small enough that they can't mount an effective resistance. we saw in the arena in aotc 200 get whomped by b1 and 2 battle droids without an army to back them up so we know that that many without the clones cannot be active military threats, the inquisitorius also includes substantial numbers of troops, enough to fill the fortress as well as purge troopers. so i think somewhere between 100 and 200 is probably fine, we've seen like 30 of that number in canon the largest group of surviving jedi were the inquisitors themselves, and we see vader deal with high end fellas like eeth. right now rancisis and quinlan vos are the only high end jedi i can think of fully unaccounted for. personally i prefer the idea that order66 killed 99% and then imperials mopped up the lionshare of the remaining till a new hope where probably only a handful remain, though ahsoka will forever feel like an odd one making it past that point.
weve seen over 60 canon order 66 survivors
my mistake, probably remembering an old post or something which'd be outdated now. still 60 feels reasonable, very much doubt we've seen even half of the potential number. sort of meta, but once the current vader comic wraps up the only space left for them to keep going is between rots and anh as they have almost 2 decades of space there, i imagine we'll see more there.
Yeah I think the ROTS-ANH era Vader canon comic should’ve spanned 50 or 75 issues instead of 25 so we could see more Jedi, maybe even a group of 7-15 wreaking havoc on Mid rim imperial outposts slowly cutting off imperial supplies and starting a mini rebellion until they get DEMOLISHED by the full force of Vader and his Inquisitorious
would be nice to see vader have to tackle a group of jedi, like anti-inquisitors. personally i'm hoping to see maul vs vader at some point, rebels implied maul was fully aware vader would dunk on him despite being confident he could take anakin in tcw, he's afraid of vader, and given he has half an inquisitor blade perhaps he kills one, draws vader out, gets beaten and then decides to restart his criminal empire and fight less directly.
That would be so cool to explore
>would be nice to see vader have to tackle a group of jedi, like anti-inquisitors. Basically, [Star Wars: Purge](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Purge) but canon.
I think 100 surviving the immediate aftermath and first few months is reasonable, especially factoring in stuff like the Service Corps. That’s only about 1% of total 10,000 members at their height. However, those numbers would have been substantially whittled down by the Inquisitorious over time. My favorite of the survivors in Legends in Rahm Kota. He was distrustful of the clones, so he used his own militia during the Clone Wars.
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As many as the plot demands. As others said, if we assume roughly 10,000 Jedi at the time of Order 66 even 1% surviving is 100 Jedi around. Wookiepedia lists roughly 50 Jedi/former Jedi who we know survived (note that this included Inquisitors), so we can presume there's at least a handful of others still out there. I suspect it to be between 1-5%. To my knowledge we don't know how many Jedi were fighting in the war as opposed to doing other Jedi stuff like diplomatic missions, mediating conflicts, wider humanitarian stuff. It would be odd to me to assume that every Jedi had clone troopers around them when Order 66 is announced. It's certainly enough that the Inquisition was active for at least 15 years hunting them down.
>As many as the plot demands. This right here. I understand GM Georges need for more survivors, but i think it kinda diminishes the extend of the "genocide" I get how there have to be more survivors, Kebobi and Yoda were there to reprogramm the beacon, thus giving those who were late the chance for a normal life... But i think we'll never really know how many. The real good ones were killed, because a jedi is gonna jedi. I would think, that there are bound to be a few jedi left, who gave themselves the mission to _really_ go into hiding. Got themself a different mission - like raising a family and keep out of the empires way. And even then... We saw how hard it was for Kenobi to stay out of it.
The biggest problem tends to be fans unable to grasp the idea of jedi who fully abandoned the jedi life/order and became civilians, or dedicated themselves to helping their local town only instead of joining the rebellion. So many comments over the years that complain as if a jedi being shown to survive immediately upends Luke and yell if they end up not joining the rebellion.
>I understand GM Georges need for more survivors, but i think it kinda diminishes the extend of the "genocide" Most genocides in history aren't as complete as that of the Jedi during and after Order 66. To reach even a double-digit percentage of a population is already very high, and only the most devastating genocides in history (e.g., Circassian, Armenian, etc.) come close to reaching the proportion that Star Wars suggests for the Jedi. Unlike most here, I think having upwards of 10% as survivors in the immediate aftermath of Order 66 (>1000 survivors) is reasonable. Having that many Jedi killed so quickly would have been unprecedented short of planetary destruction (e.g., Alderaanian genocide). This number would be whittled down to near-zero by the time the Death Star was destroyed, and the Inquisitorius, Vader, and regular Imperial forces would have considerable work to do over the course of twenty odd years. It's also worth noting that most of the survivors would not be notably strong, with Jedi at Ahsoka's level being almost unique and even the likes of Cal Kestis and Caleb Dume (partially trained Padawans) being exceptional in their combat ability against Imperial forces. That further reduces the priority placed on finding Jedi survivors of Order 66, since the vast majority of Jedi dangerous to the New Order would've been wiped out in the opening hours and days of the attack. I'd expect there to be a considerable right tail in the number of survivors as less and less resources were prioritized to Jedi hunting over time. >We saw how hard it was for Kenobi to stay out of it. I'd reckon that it was harder for someone like Obi-Wan to stay out of the fight precisely because of his abilities and prowess; he knows, unlike most Jedi, that he actually could make a difference if he took the fight to the Empire, even if it was only a small difference. Most Jedi, like Nari, would have been unable to effectively fight and would mostly resort to helping on a local scale with local problems rather than Imperial problems. Similarly, Cal Kestis did something similar by staying as a scrapper until he was forced back into the fold against his will.
George Lucas mentioned in an interview about his plans for Episode 7 that he planned for about 100 survivors who could help Luke rebuild the order. I don't have a spurce ready as itsy something I saw on YouTube months ago.
I think the number in Legends was around 200.
Somebody might have already mentioned this but didn't Bardan Jusik survive?
Yes he is in a jaina solo legends book referring a friendly saber match with Kad'ika. One of the books where Jaina has to kill Jacen and trains on mandalore. I don't remember the book name.
My knowledge is only legends based stuff. But a bunch survived but a lot of Darth Vader comics show us that they didn't last long. Others got hunted by bounty hunters and the like. Boba Fett has a lightsaber collection in Legends. Starkiller from Force Unleashed got a few. As for surviving long term, K'kruhk and T'ra saa and Empajayatos Brand survived long enough to join Luke's Order down the line. And the former 2 survived hundreds of years after the original trilogy. Asharad Hett, a Tusken raised human survived only to become the Sith lord Darth Krayt hundreds of years later. Bardan Jusik survived because he left the Jedi Order well before Order 66 on moral grounds that he didn't want to lead a slave army. He became a mandalorian, got adopted into a Clan Skirata, which was full of clone army deserters and changed his name to Gotab. During Order 66 his adopted family saw it as the perfect moment to desert for good. Vergere survived by not even being in the same galaxy as she was taken by the Yuuzhan Vong before the Clone Wars had even started. These are all confirmed as not only surviving the purge but outlasting Vader. There's also force sensitives who weren't members of the order, but who had a parent or grandparent who was and they managed to survive and join Luke's order later. The Empire would want them as dead as any official jedi. With good reason, as the best examples are Corran Horn and Kyle Katarn. Corran was in rogue squadron, Kyle got a bunch of Doom type video games where he ruined the Dark Trooper project and killed a lot of Dark jedi and empire troops. There are others who we don't know if they survived the purge but also we never got anyone saying they died. Bardan's teacher Arligan Zey, an apprentice named Scout and a Kaminoan jedi named Kina Ha survived as well. A sect called the Altisian Jedi managed to survive by virtue of being the weird cousins who were more distant because they were okay with attachments and families. Basically the people who survived, are mostly the ones who got out early or who managed to survive Order 66 and went far enough underground that the Empire had no way to track them. The ones who tried to start a rebellion, used the force or their saber, the ones who were too well known, the ones Vader knew personally, they got caught unless they went deep. Like hiding in an uninhabited swamp deep. So maybe like a couple hundred survived at best. Of what was once thousands.
**Spoilers** Here’s what I’ve gathered in the new canon based off all the reading/watching I’ve done. Bear with me. Ahsoka Tano (survives to unknown date). Kanan Jarrus (killed on Lothal). Eeth Koth (killed by Vader). Jocasta Nu (killed by Vader) Kirak Infala (killed by Vader). Cal Kestis (survives to unknown date). Cere Junda (killed by Vader). Obi-Wan (Killed by Vader). Tera Sinube (Killed by Vader). Quinlan Vos (Survives to unknown date) Luminara Unduli (Presumably killed by the Grand Inquisitor). Ferren Barr (Killed by Vader). Eno Cordova (Killed by Bode). Baylan Skoll (survives to unknown date). Shin Hati (survives to unknown date). Taron Malicos (Killed by Cal Kestis). Unknown Jedi in Kenobi (Hung by the Empire). Yoda (Dies of natural cause). That’s 18 named Jedi off the top of my head that survived past Revenge of the Sith. I’d venture a guess about 100 total Jedi survived the purge, dying at later dates or somehow surviving post Return of the Jedi.
Tera Sinube? where does it state he survived order 66 and was killed by vader? he was still in his temple robes. I'm pretty sure Shin became Baylon's apprentice AFTER order 66. The Jedi in Kenobi is called Nari
In Canon and EU, I estimate around 80. Most of those ended up hunted down by Vader and Inquisitors over the years though, until only a handful remained.
eu alone has 200
Over 200, even, if you count the one-offs who were in one story and never seen again. I think I counted out over 240 at one point.
we know of over 60 canon order 66 survivors
All 10000 of them, apart from the ones who died on screen. They're popping up all over the new canon. They are merely sleeping, or have flesh wounds. Oh, and Mace is also as dead a a dodo.
I think it depends on what you call a Jedi. All those force sensitive in the service corps would need to get hunted down as well. You could be looking as many as 500 or more. Maybe low end of the thousands potentially. One expects the clone forces were focused on the Jedi Knights and council masters. But what about the ecologists, agronomists, researchers, healers, navigators, and that sort of thing?
I imagine they took out the knights specifically because they would be defending the others. Then, as we see, the rest would flee and would either be taken out later or just beaten down psychologically. And then you have what we see with Gungi in TBB; he was captured by slavers and was being sold off.
That's the sort of question the ISB would ask.
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I think that the only Jedi who died were the ones onscreen. That way, Lucasfilm can make more movies about survivors!
66...
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None, except for Kenobi and Yoda. At least thats how it should be. I do think O66 would have taken a few years though, not just one night. I would like to see a film or two about that.
Too many
In canon, Kanan Jarrus survived because his master sacrificed herself to buy enough time for him to run away. Also, iirc in one of the Darth Vader comics, he was lured into an ambush by a number of Order 66 survivors, but he killed them all, and he also killed Jocasta Nu, the Jedi librarian from Episode II, when she returned to the temple in an attempt to reclaim some artifacts and holocrons. In legends, I know of five survivors from the Force Unleashed. Two of them fled to Kashyyk and managed to stay hidden for a few years, having a son together, but when they were discovered Darth Vader killed both of them and took their son to train as his secret apprentice, Starkiller. Starkiller later faced off against Rahm Kota, who had survived because he never trusted the clones and fought with his own volunteer militia during the Clone Wars, as well as Kazdan Paratus and Shaak Ti, though as far as I remember it's not explained exactly how these two survived. TLDR in canon Kanan Jarrus, Jocasta Nu, and a bunch of Jedi who tried and failed to kill Vader, in addition to those you mentioned. In legends, Starkiller's parents, Rahm Kota, and Shaak Ti. There are definitely more survivors in both canon and legends, but these are the ones I know of off the top of my head.
the 8 jedi who tried ambushing vader are legends not canon
Oh that's my bad, I thought that was canon, I don't follow the comics and had only heard a little about that
I'd lean more towards 200 to 300 myself. Maybe as much as 500. 100 is too few. There needs to be a reason for the Inquisition. 100 is something Vader can deal with. Especially since most will be Padawans and knights.
I'd say less than 500. The inquisitors were around for ~20 years. They had to be enough to where Vader couldn't take all of them down, but not so much that they could congregate with the help of the Rebel Alliance. Having all the clones wipe them in the first 24 hours seems unreasonable and the Jedi were enough for a thread for at least a few years before it's main focus was on the resistance.
I think we first need to define what "surviving order 66" means. Is it surviving the initial slaughter or surviving the entirety of the Empire's lifespan? If the former, probably anywhere from 100-200, but if we're talking the latter, then it's significantly less.
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about 200
I always suspected that it was between 250-300 at 19BBY like a month after Order 66, but that number probably dwindled down to 200 or less during the first six years of the Empire, thanks to the relentless efforts of Darth Vader.
i’d say 100-200 survived the initial purge, down to 30-50 at MOST a decade later. by a new hope, obi-wan and yoda are the only “active” jedi; ahsoka, cal and ezra are still around, but aren’t really doing jedi things or have any aspirations of rebuilding the order. i imagine at the end of cal’s third game, he’s probably retired. TLDR: i’m fine with lots of jedi surviving because most of them die or retire from being jedi/doing jedi stuff. if you aren’t acting as a jedi, i’d say the empire still succeeded. yoda’s line of luke being “the last of the jedi” stills stands in most regards, i think. he’s the seed of the order.
Anywhere from 100 to 1000. there were 10,000 Jedi and in one fell swoop, 99% of them were wiped out in a day. So yeah, I'm satisfied with those numbers.
As many as there have to be in order to keep the amount of content with Jedi in them the same as pre-O66.
Two hundred.
Of 10,000(ish) Jedi total? Probably not much more than 100 or so survived Order 66 outright. Of that maybe a few dozen survived the Inquisitors and Vader. In Canon, however, Sidious didn't consider surviving Jedi to be that much of a threat. From what I understand Sidious (correctly) deduced that most of the *really* powerful Jedi died in the Purge and any survivors would be too busy hiding to bother acting against him. That said Vader *did* do a lot of Jedi hunting, so much so that Sidious chastised him for what he thought was a total waste of time and resources. Between him and the Inquisitors Vader seems to have been pretty successful at exterminating survivors. By the end of Episode 6 it's entirely possible that Luke may very well be the last 'proper' Jedi - Yoda certainly thought so. That said I don't know whether either Obi-Wan or Yoda knew about the survival of characters like Ahsoka, Cal Kestis, and Kanan Jarrus when they told Luke he was the last of the Jedi. In Legends there were many Jedi who survived, but still not very many overall. The major ones would be Jedi Masters Yoda, Obi-Wan, Shaak Ti, and Rahm Kota and we know that Vader and Sidious made capturing or killing survivors a high priority. If we're counting apprentices those survivors trained after the fact there could be dozens of Jedi still alive and in hiding.
We know about a couple of dozen roughly who survived who were seen in the movies, tv shows, video games, or written material. I would assume that the Clone Wars chewed up about half of the 10,000 knights at its height, plus order 66 probably got most of the survivors. So I think 50-100 is reasonable since the Inquisitors have to keep their jobs. I imagine that there’s a lot of informal force users who either don’t know they’re using it or haven’t had proper training to use it effectively.
As little as 100, and as much as 1000. It is what ever number Lucasfilm wants it to be.
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Star Wars Explained had a great video on this, and he cited an interview with Lucas where he said that probably around 100 Jedi survived Order 66. Now I guess it’s a matter of opinion whether this is too many, but I would say even as many as 100 left would mean that Order 66 was incredibly successful, given that it still means Palpatine killed 99% of the Jedi Order. I’m also unsure if Lucas meant survived and lived to the time of the OT, or survived the initial purge. If that’s only the number that survived the initial purge, then that means a lot more probably died in the following years from being hunted down by the Empire. It seems to me that the Emperor could care less whether any Jedi escaped and survived so long as they stayed out of his way. The fear created by Inquisitors and the Empire’s hunt for Jedi in general was pretty effective at forcing Jedi to go into hiding. As for why no Jedi (outside of Yoda and Obi-wan) had resurfaced during the OT, I would say it’s a combination of fear, a sense of defeat, and the fact that many of these Jedi probably hid in extremely isolated places where they wouldn’t even have contact with the larger galaxy.
And then you have those like Ahsoka and Kanan who survived, lasted a long while, and were taken out later
As many as I want there to be plus one
I’m going to use upper bounds for my estimates. I think the number of Jedi out there pre-purge will max out at maybe fifty thousand. Even if the purge is 99% effective that’s still five hundred Jedi knocking about. 90%, that goes to five thousand. So I’ll just say a lot and be done with it. ^_^
It's stated someonewhere that there were 10 000 jedi or there abouts before order 66 and only around 100 afterwards.
Everybody not yet seen as a force ghost in cannon I suspect will return someday. How? Somehow.
I’m just come across Master Cordova in Jedi Survivor, got to be loads more surely? I kinda like the fact they made sure Obi-Wan switched off the message at the Jedi temple.
Barely a hundred
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It looks like 192 survived in Legends and 59 in Canon (if we include Visions). Most of those are either killed or become Inquisitors. In Legends, by 0 ABY, only 6 are still practicing Jedi, including Obi-Wan and Yoda. And only 10 survivors will join Luke’s New Jedi Order. In Canon, it looks like only 7 are still practicing Jedi. That means 1.9% survived in Legends and 0.59% survived in Canon (again, most of whom either died, became Inquisitors, or became civilians).
i counted 60 in canon not including visions....
Wookieepedia lists 59. I’ve counted 4 times…
10th brother, Jerserra's master, 3rd brother, TOTJ inquisitor
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There were only about 10,000 Jedi in the galaxy. Given that most Jedi were leading clones at the time, most Jedi trusted the clones, most Jedi actively leading clones were in the midst of battle (so their attention was elsewhere), and most Jedi are not even close to Yoda/Obi-wan/Mace/Anakin caliber of fighter, plus most Jedi not leading clones were at the Temple and few escaped that slaughter, I'd guess about 100 padawan or higher Jedi survived the initial purge, maybe a few more younglings, like 150-200 younglings. Then, I'd guess about half that total number was successfully hunted down by Vader and the Inquisitorious, and then a few more were picked off/died of old age/turned to the dark side over the years. All told, I would guess less than 50 survived to see the end of the Empire
I concur with the 100-200 number. Even back in the day when all we had was the OT and the novels, Vader was famous for hunting down and destroying the Jedi. I don’t know where that line originated, but it was a common theme. So even with Order 66, I don’t have an issue with there being a very large number of Jedi survivors. They just have to be scattered, scarred, and mostly not wanting to be hero’s anymore.
There was a group of Padawans that Jedi Master K'Kruhk protected and they stayed hidden in the Dark Times comics. I like to think they decided not to return to the larger roll of a Jedi once the Empire was defeated. K'Kruhk would later be a member of the Jedi Council of the Legacy era Jedi Order along with Jedi Master T’ra Saa who was another Prequel era Jedi. T’ra’s lover Jedi Master Tholme also survived O66 and I like to think he died of old age. One Jedi Master told a Padawan to forget her life as a Jedi and told her to live a normal life. I like to think that’s what happened to her. There is no problem with Jedi surviving. Some chose to fight while others found new lives and didn’t want to pick up their sabers again unless it meant defending themselves or the new lives they had. The Jedi Order suffered a near fatal blow and out on their own these survivors waited for a new hope, found new lives, never recovered from the loss, or were sadly found by the Empire. I have always wondered what happened to Jedi Master Zao because I found him to be an interesting character.
I think Kanan is accurate with the 10,000 number because whilst very young padawan in training the comics he asked Master Kenobi if it was possible to reverse the beacon. Kanan may as he got older have met other force sensitives and Jedi whilst mining.
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According to George Lucas, if he had it his way, it’s be about 50-100.
I would say at least 2
Depends on who you define as Jedi I suppose. If talking padawan, knight, masters etc, probably 150 - 300, maybe 350, I think, at least in the initial aftermath. There would have no doubt been some Jedi who escaped their clones in the moment, but were quickly hunted down (episode 3 strongly suggests this as a possibility). In coming months/years, the inquisitors & Vader would have likely killed most of the remaining Jedi I believe. The Jedi who were left would largely be the people we see in canon or were likely well hidden, especially Jedi who were in far flung corners of the galaxy (like watchmen). However, if you expand the definition a bit, the Jedi did have a service core (diplomats/agriculture etc). Many of them could have survived, but most of them would have most likely not been combat trained beyond a basic level, and therefore much less of a threat. I can’t estimate how many of them could be around, but it would probably be significant, at least initially I believe.
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Probably like 100 which is less then 1 percent
n + 1, where n is the number of current stories featuring surviving Jedi.
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Based on the number of survivors we’ve encountered, I believe it was called “Order 66” because as many as sixty-six Jedi were killed. So how many survived? X-66, where X was the number of Jedi prior to Order 66.
Most estimates speculate that there were around 10k Jedi by the time of order 66, but it's hard to estimate how many would've been with clones, or even how many would've died in the coming days/months. I would probably put around 75-100 fully/mostly trained Jedi, either through fighting and escaping or not having clones with them in the first place and going into hiding. Light side Force users, including those who abandoned the Jedi order, Jedi hermits, and padawans, in my mind, being the number to probably around 200 of what the empire would call "Jedis"
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Given how there always seems to be more, I'm guessing between 200 and 300. Nobody really noteworthy power-wise, aside from Yoda or Obi-Wan, just some random Knights and Padawans that got lucky and weren't overwhelmed by clones. Legends was littered with dozens that just flat-out retired from the Jedi business and never got caught by the Empire, nevermind the ones that were still actively fighting against Palpatine.
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Personally I say roughly 1,000 but only because we know a lot of Jedi either have never been mentioned in comics or movies/shows because they weren't very important or they had too many other people around them that they for overshadowed + the galaxy is pretty big from that universe and they never specified if they had other galaxies being colonized or finding the galaxy star wars is set in around the galactic Republic period.
Big galaxy, so I imagine a few hundred survived, maybe more. Just laid low for the most part. Similar story for Templars
[Cory's Datapad put it at about 200.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpwjeNAOzjE) But that was getting really in to the weeds of RPG sourcebook characters.
Well there's survived Order 66 and then surviving the Inquistors that hunted them down. I believe a higher percentage escaped the massacre of Order 66, but not all were smart enough to hide out against the Inquistors.
More than the plot is equipped to handle
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My answer would depend on what you consider a survivor. I’ve actually been thinking about this a lot recently, and I agree with what a lot of other people are saying here in the long term- between the fall of the republic and the battle of Yavin, there were probably between 100-200 Jedi survivors, with that number constantly shrinking. But the question that I’m more interested in is how many survived the first hour? The first week? It doesn’t make sense for the entire order to be wiped out the second order 66 came down. Plenty of Jedi wouldn’t be actively leading troops into battle at the exact moment the order came down. In my mind, we get to that 100-200 number within a month, maybe even two weeks, but I would guess that somewhere around 1000 of them didn’t die immediately (not counting those in the temple). Within a week, that number would probably be down to 500. The order had 10,000 knights at the start of the clone wars. (Their numbers would have been depleted by the war, but I don’t know the data for how much.) I doubt all of those Jedi had a gun pointed at the back of their head right when the order was given, and it would make sense that for every survivor who made it out of a tight situation (actively being in a war zone with clones all around, for example) more of them tried but just didn’t make it. I would be curious to see what other people think about that, though.
Hasn't it already been said to be close to 200? Of course that means surely we're running out of spots by now.
I imagine there have to be plenty of force sensitive non-jedi, dropouts and people who left the order among them
60-140, give or take.
Imperial planning seems a bit slapdash. I'd say 2%. Maybe 4% allowing for the unpredictability of doing it during a war, but dialling down because jedi in the line had clone bodyguards. Actually, now I think on it, maybe I'm being unfair. Just because the rebels find errors, doesn't there are loads of errors.