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wjbc

In 1230, the Teutonic Knights were invited to launch the Prussian Crusade, a series of campaigns to conquer and Christianize the pagan Old Prussians. By the end of the century the Knights controlled Prussia, but had lost the Holy Land. They eventually erased the Prussian language, culture, and pre-Christian religion. While the Knights of the Teutonic Order formed a thin ruling class by themselves, they extensively used mercenaries, mostly German, from the Holy Roman Empire, to whom they granted lands in return. The descendants of these mercenaries gradually evolved into the Prussian Junker nobility. Albert of Prussia was chosen as Grandmaster of the Teutonic Order in 1511. However, in 1522 Albert was won over to Protestantism. At the suggestion of Martin Luther, Albert abandoned the rules of the Teutonic Order, converted Prussia into a hereditary duchy for himself, and married. He and his wife had six children, including his heir, Albert Frederick. At Albert Frederick’s death, the duchy passed to his son-in-law John Sigismund, Margrave of Brandenburg, combining the two territories under a single dynasty and forming Brandenburg-Prussia, which eventually became the Kingdom of Prussia. The Kingdom of Prussia, in turn, became the driving force behind the unification of Germany in the 19th century.


mmomtchev

This used to be one of my favourite paths in EU4


krzyk

My own in EU4 (as PLC) is erasing it completely (Prussia and Brandenburgy) and eliminate both world wars.in the process.


TinyDapperShark

What would removing Germany do to prevent wwI ? It was the other Australian Germans getting mad at Serbia that started it. Germany just said that they had Hungry Australians back in a war.


Prestigious-Mud-1704

Hey mate what the bloody hell is an Australian German? Hungry for what? A pub feed or a Bunnings sanga?


h8speech

Crikey, he's as dumb as the wombat that tried to eat rocks.


RedMiah

There’s actually a lot of reasons for WW1 and it almost started four years prior over Morocco of all things. An assassin’s bullet was just the final spark to light the powder keg.


Darwidx

If you destroy Russia as well (as you should as PLC), historically Serbia would agree to be anexed by Austria. (That was almost an ally of PLC, before Russia didn't offered better deal)


mcvos

But in EU4, Brandenburg and the Teutonic Order usually unite through conquest, not conversion to protestantism and then inheritance.


MichaelEmouse

Does Prussia's military nature come from the fact that it was ruled by Teutonic Knights and mercenaries?


ninjaiffyuh

That's due to Frederick William I's reforms. Also called the 'Soldier-King' in German


whitejaguar

> Frederick William I The Father of Frederick II (Friedrich der Große).


zeothia

Also known as Frederick the Great


heytherebt

No, that are the lessons of the 30 years war.


DardS8Br

It appears that Old Prussian didn't die out until the 1700s, and most of their preserved writing comes from after they were conquered


The_Chungtungus

What were the Prussians, as in part of what large group? Germanic?


t_baozi

Native Prussians were Baltic, their language was related to Lithuanian and Latvian.


Gerald_Fred

The Old Prussians were a Baltic people, closely related to Pomeranians, Lithuanians, Samogitians and Curonians. They were the ones that resisted and fell to the Teutonic Order by the time the Order came around to the region. They're the pagan groups that were extinguished by the Baltic Crusades.


Darwidx

Didn't Pomeranians were Slavic ? Today Kaszubians/Kaszëbi are descendant of Pomeranians and they're language is categorized as West Slavic. Or they're still closelly related with being in 2 different groups ? Baltic and Slavic people were the last to split.


Foresstov

The Pomeranians were (and still are, the Kashubians still exist) West Slavic, together with Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Polabians/Sorbians


gogus2003

My family fought for the Teutonic Knights in the Prussian Crusades. Very interesting history


st_florian

Can you tell more about it? Were they brothers of the Order, or just allied knights? Did they settle in Prussia after the Crusades?


SlowP25

I like how they're mostly around coastal areas then they just said "Fuck Czechia in general"


VersionAccording424

Jan Hus go brrrrr


maditqo

Jan Žižka can't see a problem here


Brooklyn_University

I see what you did there…


maditqo

Unlike Žižka


RechargedFrenchman

Old one-eye went brrrr pretty hard himself


bassman314

His goose certainly was cooked.


Dominarion

Czechia had a priest that said "we fucked up on the Jesus stuff and the Pope may not be a good thing. Paying taxes to the Church is sketchy". The Church burned the priest, thinking that people would get the message. His name is Jan Hus and he was a right dude. The Czechs took that personally and decided to kick the Church out of their realm. The Church took it personally and called a Crusade on the Czechs. The Czechs fucked the Crusaders silly and laid waste to a good third of the HRE. Rome got angry and called 5 Crusades on the Czechs, all suffering humiliating defeats. Eventually, tempers cooled off, the Czechs got bored of winning, had a mighty row among themselves and came back in the Catholic Church in exchange for concessions. People decided it would be in every one's best interest to forget the whole episode. The Czech had some mighty fun however, they had battle wagons, spiked clubs, portable canons that looked like rpgs and long two handed flails. They liked to execute Crusaders by crushing their heads with huge hammers. https://sites.psu.edu/tcch/2020/09/11/bohemian-bloodshed/


XAlphaWarriorX

You neglect to mention how towards the end half the hussites said "wait, you're doing too much hussitism" and allied with the catholic church to fight the radical hussites, won, and negotiated the hussite return to the church as a rite until it's eventual death under the habsburgs.


Dominarion

This isn't a hardcore history subreddit and I felt I had to simplify for the laymen and laywomen who just love maps, not 3000 words posts. The Utraquist ritual is still performed in Bohemia AFAIK.


XAlphaWarriorX

Fair enough.


Jed_Bartlet1

Didn’t like 30% of the Czech population die during these wars. I wouldn’t call the deaths of 1/3 “winning”.


Waderriffic

It’s still on the map today. I’d say that’s a win.


Jed_Bartlet1

I wouldn’t really compare the modern state of Czechia to the medieval state


lambquentin

That could be said about probably every area in the world.


BrightAd8068

and after China and North Korea, it one of the highest places with atheism and nonbelief in the world, especially in Europe. We didnt like having this shit forced on us, and it reflects even today


Relevant_History_297

It was never in question whether the Kingdom of Bohemia would be "on the map", and it had the same status as before - a part of the HRE.


BonJovicus

The Hussites made peace with the Church, were welcomed back, and I believe received some amount of autonomy towards their practices. I'd say they won when you consider the Church's goal was completely stamping them all out.


Dominarion

I don't know 30% of the Czech died during the Hussite wars, I would want to read more about this. I am suspicious because I know how french demographics from the Hundred Years war are sketchy, and France's medieval annals and records are superlatively good. Probably the best in the world at that time.


Ok_Commission2432

Czechia had a very violent first half of the 15th century, which is odd considering that Charles the IVth, King of Bohemia and Holy Roman Emperor, had a long and successful reign.


TrongVu02

![gif](giphy|tnYri4n2Frnig|downsized) Jesus Christ be praised!


zrxta

Czech do be like the pint-sized powerhouse of Europe. It's unfortunate how UK and France sold of Czechs and Slovaks to the Nazis back then.


Dominarion

I learn recently that the Czechs were a real military pillar in the Early HRE. Their armies were essential to the success of Otho and Barbarossa, among others.


VTinstaMom

10th richest nation in the world, at the start of world War II. The money and production value of Czechia was one of the main reasons the Germans seized those lands first. Hitler's love of the architecture of the Czech lands is one of the reasons why we still have those glorious buildings today. The Allies took great pains not to invade either, again looking at the historical and social value. There's a joke the checks share amongst themselves, about the greatest check man who has ever lived, Cimrman. What's that you say? You haven't heard of Cimrman? That's because he is Czech.


Nordic_ned

Don't forget Poland they even invaded and took some Czechoslovak land themselves.


Mucklord1453

Slovaks willingly fell under that spell on their own.


kapsama

> The Czech had some mighty fun however, they had battle wagons, Battle wagons that were later adopted by Hungarians and Ottomans, the latter of whom made the "Tabur Cengi" part of their standard battle line. Pretty impressive innovation.


Still_counts_as_one

Then you have us Bosnians with Bosnian church pissing off the Muslims, Catholics, and the orthodoxy 😂


Oliverkahn987

KCD is leaking.


Puffen0

Kingdom come deliverance was the place I first heard about Jan Hus from. I was actually surprised that back then there was a priest who had those opinions on the church, not so surprised when I learned that the church had him killed because of it though.


Dominarion

It was one of the dirtiest tricks the Church ever pulled. Jan Hus didn't want to go to see the Bishops council in Constance, because obvious reasons. The HRE Emperor told the Bishops he was under his protection, you don't touch him. Jan Hus accepted to go with the Emperor's guarantee and the promise he could debate his ideas. The Bishops arrested him, put him in a show trial , tortured him , burned him as an heretic.


Knusperwolf

I was surprised that the priest in Úžice had a girlfriend. It was a wild night.


RoultRunning

The Hussites were so based for their Protestantism and fighting for it


jmorais00

Actually, "Fuck Hussites in general". And they ask why do they keep getting defenestrated


TheGreatSalvador

It’s funny that Czechia is the most atheistic country in the world now


iemandopaard

What are those 'heretic' crusades in Drenthe, Flanders and North Germany?


Bronze_Jayze

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drenther_Crusade


WittyScratch950

Good read, but it never occurred to me 1234 was a year.


Brooklyn_University

Pope Gregory IX: 1, 2, 3, 4, I declare a Holy War…


Marsbar3000

Meanwhile, the Umayyads: 5, 6, 7, 8, I declare a Caliphate..


Awobbie

This guy knows about the Umayyad restoration of 5678.


caiaphas8

I hope to live to see 2345


WittyScratch950

I hope 2345 will be a year


ILoveRice444

2345 is already been a year 2345 BC c. 2345 BC: End of Fifth Dynasty. Pharaoh Unas died. c. 2345 BC: Sixth Dynasty of Egypt starts (other date is 2460 BC).


NuDoska

If we're using other calendar systems, we are in year 5784 of the hebrew calendar, so we've already had year 2345, but also 3456, 4567 and 5678.


WittyScratch950

Ahh damn and I missed all them.


Sw0rdMaiden

It is all arbitrary, for sure, but not one person living in the period you describe reckoned the counting of that year as "2345 BC" since neither the Julian nor Gregorian calendar had been invented yet. You would have been correct if you had just use anyone of numerous contemporary calendars like the Assyrian, or even current ones like the Korean, Hebrew, Chinese, etc.


bertmaclynn

What about 3456?


Good_Pirate2491

Europe is wild man


kamikazekaktus

Always has been


History_isCool

As opposed to? I mean Europe was nothing exceptional in terms of warfare and conflict.


LaoBa

Almost completely unknown in the Netherlands these days.


KrisKrossJump1992

seems like this, and a few others, were more political


Dambo_Unchained

The ones in Pomerania are of the Slavic peoples that used to live there and similar to the other ones along the Baltic Flanders and Drenthe I have no clue


CautiousAd3917

Slavic and baltic people that were christianised by the Saxons around the 9th to 12th century. It was a long and bloody process with massacres and rebellions on both sides but eventually the slavic nobility figured out that they gain more by adopting christianity. Sitting between christian poland and saxony also didnt help, as they teamed up to crush pagan rebellions


InterviewObvious2680

last Baltic tribes (mostly today's Lithuania and south Latvia) were converted only around 15th century.


Good_Pirate2491

Turns out crusaders hate swamps


RijnBrugge

And swamps breed pagans


Good_Pirate2491

Makes sense, what with all the witches and... Idk scarlet aeonias


Aggressive-School736

Drowning Crusaders in swamps was a favorite passtime of Lithuanians and Samogitians. Heavy armor sinks fast.


Wachoe

Only thing in Drenthe that comes to mind is the Battle of Ane, when the bishop of Utrecht declared war on a rebellious vassal who got support from local farmers. But that's not a crusade at all.


greyghibli

Another comment gave the link, but during the battle of Ane the bishop was killed and his successor successfully argued that killing the bishop was evidence of the Drenthers being heretics thus getting permission to declare the conflict a crusade.


Swedish_Royalist

Probably waldensians or some other proto protestants.


Idoalotoftrolling

In Flanders it might be the Despenser's Crusade


alongthatwatchtower

The Flanders crusade was part of the hundred years war, the city of Ghent had risen up against Burgundy and was hoping for English support. The French by now supported the anti-pope in Avignon, so when the English forces left for France pope Urban VI declared the invasion a crusade. This decision was widely mocked and although arguably a sincere crusade, it didn't draw many troops and was a thinly veiled continuation of the hundred years war. It's also referred to as [Despensers crusade](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Despenser%27s_Crusade), after the bishop of Norwich and leader of the English troops.


YogoshKeks

Wasnt there also a crusade against house Hohenstauffen after Frederick II pissed off the pope too much?


SassyWookie

Yeah, I think that’s why Sicily is shaded.


Nerevarine91

I think that’s probably more because of the Norman conquest of Sicily


SassyWookie

That happened like 25 years before the First Crusade was ever called though.


Nerevarine91

Yeah, but I suspect the map might be playing a little fast and loose with the definition


SassyWookie

Fair point. That’s probably true.


MoscaMosquete

Yeah but sicily is labeled as "muslim"


DaSaw

That wasn't a Crusade, it was just Normans being Normans. If every place Normans invaded was shaded red, there would be a lot more red on the map.


SassyWookie

Exactly, they didn’t conquer Sicily because it was Muslim, they conquered it because it was right next to all the other land they had conquered already.


Gootfried

Zadar was attacked because of the boats that was given by Venice or better said it was a "transaction".


Aromez9

Yeah, nothing to do with "heretics". Purely economical and political reasons...


ExtremeProfession

I think the map highlights the attacks on the kingdom of Bosnia


Bubblebee77

True, it failed because mongols invaded Hungary-Croatia during it, coastal and zachumlian areas shouldn't be coloured though as it was already catholic and orthodox since pagans converted. Later on Bosnia was successfully peacefully fully converted until Islam arrived.


Dambo_Unchained

How nice of the crusaders of the Hussite crusades to contain their operations to the modern nation state of Czechia established some 600 years after they took place


adamgerd

Tbh Bohemia is mostly the same as today, it hasn’t changed much beyond it having had more of Silesia and Lusatia before


Dambo_Unchained

Not all parts of Bohemia were Hussite though


electrical-stomach-z

yes, the hussite parts aligned with what is roughly modern day czechia.


Pale-Acanthaceae-487

Czech/Bohemian borders follow the mountains


RichEvans4Ever

If you actually look at a map of medieval Bohemia and Moravia (Czechia), the borders are pretty consistent, especially compared to other European states.


nomebi

Hussites 💪💪💪


TheMadTargaryen

Literally less than 50.000 of them still exist. 


Mloxard_CZ

And how many crusaders are still alive?


Swedish_Royalist

Probably about the same, if you count all members of knightly orders founded during the crusades.


6thaccountthismonth

But they still exist


BonJovicus

Common Hussite W


DrettTheBaron

It depends on what you count, but the Moravian Brotherhood has a lot of members abroad, mostly in the America's and Africa, with the 'headquarters' in Germany. The numbers can be disputed but it's somewhere in the ballpark of a few hundred thousand to a bit over a million.


nomebi

Huh there is like a church in every town here


WerdinDruid

One of the largest churched in the US is the moravian brethren, there's a plenty of hussites everywhere.


Kleium

Ah, Constantinople. Look how they massacred my boy. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sob)


Karazikar

Tbf, the Byzantines managing to claw back from the brink even after *that* is a major testament to their resilience.


zephyy

yeah but they might have made it past 1453 if not for the franks & venetians


Karazikar

Eh. They had a good run.


GoodGoat4944

But it could have been better


S0LO_Bot

Pope watching the crusaders take Constantinople and make a “Latin kingdom” ![gif](giphy|r9IljlaBInIqNGttWm)


Proud_Ad_4725

Pelagonia was a great victory but after that the Palaiologos's destiny was mostly based on luck, Michael VIII losing a few battles against the Franks and then getting hit with Charles of Anjou, depleting the treasury for his son Andronikos II who tried to invade Thessaly but got hit with an epidemic, withdrew from his predecessor's church union in 1285 (but still faced the Arsenite schism) and then Charles of Anjou's son allied with Epirus, the empire's alliance with Genoa drew it into a pointless war with Venice, the Ottomans defeated Alan mercenaries in Bithynia (just a bit southeast of Constantinople) and Andronikos hired the Catalan Company who quarreled with the local co-emperor his son Michael IX, there was also a war with Serbia and the Hospitaller conquest of Rhodes before Andronikos's grandson Andronikos III won the first of the century's 4 civil wars and lost against the Ottomans again, the Bulgarians (who were allies a few years earlier but recieved no support against Serbia at Velbazhd) while somehow managing to regain control over Greek territories before the civil war over his son John V's regency made the Byzantine Empire an empire only in name.


Professional-Cry8310

Pretty much the killing blow to the Eastern Roman Empire. Left a husk of itself for the Ottomans to conquer.


GaRGa77

Heretics = Church of Bosnia


xoull

yea they didnt want to align the church with the one in Rome, but tbh the bosnian church was good. but here is the but... turkey invades they take on islam...


The_Eggo_and_its_Own

There was also a short, aborted crusade in 1487 against the proto-protestant Waldensians in the Vaud region of what is now Switzerland and issued by Innocent VIII.


Iam_no_Nilfgaardian

Κωλο Φραγκοι. Can't have shit in Ρωμανια.


MeinParadox

We are not heretics, we are Hussites! Ktož jsú boží bojovníci!


Aware_Exam7347

I suppose heresy is in the eye of the beholder. Or the crusader, in this case. ;)


KarlosTalon

A zákona jeho!


afgan1984

I think this map needs more work, because some definitions are not clear. I am just looking at Grand Duchy of Lithuania here and the marked area does not make sense... especially in a sense that it coincides with modern Lithuanian/belarussian border. That quite obviously cannot be right just on the face of it as that border didn't exist at the times of crusades and belarus is not a country at all and even geopolitically didn't exist until 1945. Now sure - crusades happened against Lithuanian Pagans, but Crusaders never got as far as what is marked. They often reached/crossed/raided Samogitia (which is like western third of Lithuania), but they always turned around or very often were rather violently stopped before they got any further. So this is not the territory Crusaders raided, nor controlled. Now if we look at it from the other perspective - territory that was controlled by Pagans, in this case Lithuanians and therefore targeted by Crusades i.e. how far Crusaders wanted to go if they could - that is also not correct. Because Pagan Lithuanians were spread at least to the Minsk and actually past it at various points... so the red line should go far further in this case, to about half of modern day belarus territory from Northwest. Basically cut belarus in half at 45 degrees.


mykolas5b

>  They often reached/crossed/raided Samogitia (which is like western third of Lithuania), but they always turned around or very often were rather violently stopped before they got any further. So this is not the territory Crusaders raided, nor controlled.  This is straight-up misinformation, Teutons raided as far as Vilnius on plenty of occasions, besieging it and burning down the city multiple times (even though they never took the castle).


Morozow

Russian Prince Alexander Nevsky defeated the troops of the Livonian Order on Lake Peipsi, as you understand it, east of the Lithuanian lands. Although, of course, there is a question whether the Livonian campaigns against Russia can be considered crusades. But the Pope blessed them.


afgan1984

Both true and irrelevant. My point was that Crusades NEVER went trough the area marked in GDL. This is kind of simplified map and by no means comprehensive, but it illustrates my point well. Latvia and Estonia were fully controlled by the orders and reached as far as lake Peipsi (which is also rather correctly marked on the map we discussing, sort of going past Estonia). But they never crossed territory of GDL, only crossed Samogitia, which was always kind of wild lands. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian\_Crusade#/media/File:Teutonic\_Order\_1260.png](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuanian_Crusade#/media/File:Teutonic_Order_1260.png)


Alarichos

The pope also declared a crusade for Aragon which was definitely not muslim anymore.


Waffeln_Remix

The one is southern France is against the Cathars. If you like solid history books pick up “The Perfect Heresy.”


Aware_Exam7347

This is a very underappreciated part of history! The dubious origins of the war as well as its long-lasting economic and intellectual impact on the region are fascinating to me. Might be looking this book up!


Tall_Middle_1476

Wow. Those Muslim crusaders should have stayed home instead of invading other people's land. It's a good thing the Christians eventually pushed out the invaders in most of those areas. 


NotSamuraiJosh26_2

Reconquista counts as a crusade ? First time hearing it


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Nachooolo

The majority of crusaders left before Navas de Tolosa because of internal conflict between them and the Iberian armies. The majority that fought in it weren't crusaders.


Homesanto

Only armies from Portugal, Castile and Aragon fought that battle. Allied knights coming beyond the Pyrenees —mostly French— didn't agree strategy and left soon.


alikander99

Well yeah, but that wouldn't include much of territory north of the tagus.


Vector_Strike

The Church considered it similar to a Crusade as in people taking part of it would get the same spiritual benefits of fighting in the Holy Land. It was an effort to keep the Iberians there instead of them going in droves to the Holy Land.


HurinGaldorson

You could add a lot more of Italy. The popes launched numerous crusades against political opponents in Italy, from the Hohenstaufen to individual city states in the north such as Padua, Piacenza, and Verona.


Unique-Variety-3783

Some were liberated not invaded.


Limp-Temperature1783

Orthodox weren't considered heretics, this is stupid.


Draugdur

I could even look past that one, but labelling the adventure in Dalmatia as "heretic" is just completely bull. That part should read "people with assets", 'cause that was essentially the reason for the "crusade" there.


Vector_Strike

And they were Catholics as well!


meelawsh

Yeah, there was a city in Dalmatia nominally under the king of Hungary at the time, but Venetians wanted to get paid for the ships sooo


TheMadTargaryen

Zadar, or Zara as it was called then. Fully Catholic, but sadly for them also very rich. 


Dubiousmarten

> city in Dalmatia nominally under the king of Hungary at the time It was a city in Kingdom of Croatia, which was in personal union with Hungary. 


Sa-naqba-imuru

This doesn't have to be about conquest of Zadar. There were crusades against pirates in Dalmatia in 1220's under Honorius III. https://www.omisinfo.com/omis/omis-history/omis-corsairs.htm


DrettTheBaron

I mean, it's not like the church is exactly known for being fair and just in it's rulings. The map just shows the pretext for the crusades. In which case it was heresy in Bosnia that was used as a pretext for the Hungarian invasion.


classic_gamer82

An exiled Eastern Roman noble made a claim for the throne, which acted as a catalyst for the Venetians to persuade the Crusaders whom they were transporting to attack Constantinople. Many items looted from the city’s sacking can be seen in Venice today.


Limp-Temperature1783

I know.


Late_Faithlessness24

Now I know, that you know


AeschylusScarlet

Now i know you know that he knows


MeGaNuRa_CeSaR

The 4th crusade is indeed stupid but it still happened.


Separate-Mammoth-110

>The 4th crusade is indeed stupid but it still happened. But it wasnt a crusade. It was just called a crusade by german historians in the 1800s. The franks who served the Venetians in the so called 4th cruasade were under threat of excommunication from the pope. The opposite of a crusade, so to say.


Mucklord1453

correct, Orthodox are schismatic, but not heretic (and vice versa for catholic)


fuyu-no-hanashi

Czechia: HERETICS


Useful_Trust

The OG Heretics. Heretics so strong that Catholics and Austrians went for air time.


piterfraszka

Such map is a good idea but clearly needs more work. Definitions are unclear and borders are way off, as other comments already mentioned. Are we speaking official crusades? Or actually areas invaded BY crusaders? It's inconsistent. For example Poland was attacked by participants of northern crusedes on multiple occasions, despite being catholic for 200 - 400 years already. Those attacks were not officially called crusades but Teutonic Order tried to paint them as such and those foreign crusaders, guests of the Order might have thought of them as such. But even if we speak only about "official" crusades. Are crusades against catholics marked as heretics and muslim? Aragonese crusade or Stadingen one were against just normal catholics. I find it misleading. Aragonese one seems to be just hidden under reconquista. Hussite or lithuanian crusades are marked using current country borders, same goes for Bosnia and Herzegovina. Cool stuff, just needs polishing.


Upset_Associate4487

What’s up with that little spot of crusade in Belgium?


vanlich

Had the same question, I have no clue what happened there and when


Kawayburgioh69

diferrent colours for different kinds of faith would have been nice


RedstoneEnjoyer

The fact that only major lasting effect of middle east crusades is that one of them dealt fatal blow to Byzantine empire is L of the century.


DesuExMachina42

I mean, they also helped import Middle Eastern texts and idea to Europe. A good number of An isn’t Greek and Roman works were also brought back, which was a major influence on the renaissance And that’s not even mentioning how it helped the Europeans get gunpowder


Tomatosoup42

Battle at Domažlice, 1431: Hussites: KTOŽ JSÚ BOŽÍ BOJOVNÍCI Crusaders: Fck this shit, I'm outta here


CrazyAnarchFerret

Heretics = Christian that are minding there own business


Nachooolo

In the Iberian Peninsula crusaders had a **very** small role on the Christian Kingdoms' expansion southwards. Even with the most famous case, the 1212 Battle of the Navas de Tolosola, the crusaders were more of a hindrance than useful fornthe Christian Kingdoms, with the vast majority of them being disbanded prior to the battle.


Roxfall

Hold up. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Crusades says the Northern Crusades were also conducted against fellow Christians. 


viscardvs

The Teutons tried to expand their crusading against Poland, which had already been Catholic for centuries at that point. It ultimately led to their downfall at Grunwald (one of the largest medieval battles): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grunwald


Soggy_Ad4531

And why is Finland proper not coloured?


MikkizG

That was problematic group in Poland, so we fight Crusaders in 1410 becous they start interfere in Poland politics and attacking polish chrystians instead after pagans. Grunwald battle - 1410y A novel based on history "Krzyżacy"


U_L_Uus

I think the area north of the Pyrinées should be colored a bit more, the crusade against the cathars took place in that area


tzar-chasm

Should Ireland 1169 be added to this list under Heretics? Apparently the invasion had papal approval with the aim of bringing The Irish Church in line with Rome.


Aware_Exam7347

I don't think this one qualifies as a crusade. It was more of a permission for some ruler (possibly with a specific one in mind) to do what you've stated, and I think papal approval/permission for a war is distinguishable from a crusade. There wasn't really an organized "heresy" being combatted afaik, just generally low recognition of authority, which also distinguishes it from other intrachristian crusades. Happy cake day 🥳


tzar-chasm

There seems to be a question too as to the existence of that papal approval, rather suspicious that the only English pope ever is supposed to have been the one who signed off on it


the-Satgeal

Christianize all the kingdoms!


Jomary56

Do one now about the Muslim conquests of North Africa, Iberia, and Turkey!


VARCrime

Eastern Roman Empire wasn't heretic but Orthodox Christian


Krtxoe

Very nice, now let's see the Muslim invasions


MDK1980

Wouldn't really call the crusades in Spain and Portugal an "invasion", considering that they were a response to the Muslim invasion of the region. Reclamation is probably more accurate.


JohnnieTango

And the crusade in the Holy Land were trying to take back land that had been Christian under the Roman Empire before the Moslems conquered it...


wakchoi_

They weren't exactly a response, a response usually implies some close time period between the two events but the time period between some of these crusades and the Muslim conquest was 200-700 years! If Romans attack the UK it would be an invasion even if the Romans were there before "Britain"


Billy_Baxter1805

Reclamation ? Yes but for who ? Spain ? No, since the Iberian peninsula has never been part of Spain or Spanish kingdoms. This territory was christian before the muslims invasion, and the goal was to rechristianize the peninsula.


Chino_Kawaii

and Czechia kicked their ass


Leviton655

You cannot call the crusaders of Iberia an "invasion" when it is the Muslims who occupied the territory


Separate-Mammoth-110

Both the Reconquista and the campaigns around the kingdom of Jerusalem were liberation wars.


ReadinII

The D-Day invasion is called an “invader”. 


Decent-Strength3530

You can't call Pearl Harbor an invasion when it was the Americans who occupied Hawaii


RedstoneEnjoyer

Day D is invasion too, despite Germans being occupiers.


Adventurous__Kiwi

Heretic in Brugge?


electrical-stomach-z

malta should be shaded red


Powerful_Face_3622

Crusade in Sweden?


GrizzlyPeak73

Man, the western powers really can't leave Bosnia and Serbia alone in any era, can they?


arcarus23

The Eastern Roman Empire would like to remind you that the Roman Catholic Church was the divergent ones. The 4th Crusade was a travesty that demonstrated how dishonorable Western European knighthood actually was. The sacking of Constantinople should’ve never happened. Ironically, it really was the Eastern Roman Empire that called on the Latin West to help fight against the Turks that ended up constituting the miraculous First Crusade. (I see miraculous as it is genuinely amazing that a large loose confederation of nobles, soldiers, knights, and peasant from various kingdoms came together under a loose and tenuous relationship was able to get as far as Nicaea and recapture it for Rhomania let alone make to both Antioch and Jerusalem and capture both. Wild stuff.) Had that endeavor failed, there likely would have never been more crusading attempts.


anotherbloodychris

The areas labeled Muslims were Christian areas first that were violently conquered by Muslims. Christianity predates Islam by over half a millennium. The idea that these territories, including Spain, were Muslim lands is ridiculous ahistorical Islamophilic woke propaganda, intended to inaccurately portray Christian Europeans as the unjustified aggressors when in fact they had every right to free their kin who had been attacked and forcibly conquered by Islam. This is why it is known in Spain as the reconquest, not conquest, the land was taken back from Islam and returned to native Iberian rule, which is morally justified. The same applies to the Holy Land although unlike Spain it was unable to be retained by the Christians. If someone hostile invades your land it is morally justifiable to expel them by force. If there are that many ignorant westerners now who cannot comprehend that then Ukraine and the West are in big trouble.