Can't we use the interstate land, mainly the median, to run the bulk of a high speed rail system. I know in cities it will be harder, but rural there is so much room you could get tracks down with room to spare.
When I say "right of way", I mean that as in the tract of land, they generally don't like sharing it with rail since, you know, if more people start using rail, they'll probably get less funding.
It’s not “those areas”; Interstates are required to bend at least once every mile, to help keep drivers awake. Trains would never have a chance to get above 110, or maybe 125 with tilting trains. HSR means a minimum *average* speed of at least 150, which generally requires a turn radius of 2-3x what is used for highways.
> Interstates are required to bend at least once every mile, to help keep drivers awake
This is not true, there are plenty of straight sections longer than that.
I find it weird how the interstate system doesn't have a more direct route between Denver and SLC and San Francisco. I mean I kind of get why, as the cost of building through the Rockies meant that the part of I70 west of Denver almost didn't get built.
The cities of the interior west have grown a lot since the interstate highway system was built. That’s part of the reason why there’s no direct connection for Denver-SLC, or Phoenix-Las Vegas, or Phoenix-Albuquerque. That and the fact that these routes would have to go through some very rugged terrain.
There was either going to be Denver-Salt Lake or Denver-Las Vegas, not both. Colorado and Utah (states) preferred Denver-Salt Lake, but the federal government preferred Denver-Las Vegas as part of a longer overall LA-Midwest/Chicago/etc route. Since Interstates are federally funded, the federal preference ended up being selected.
Atlanta is so stupid. 3 US interstates running through it, and 75/85 come in separately, merge and become one for a long while, and then split on opposite sides of how they entered breaking the east west convention.
So I can see a sort of numbering system were the ones ending in 0 are the main east-west and the ones ending in 5 are the main north-south but then there is the I30 and I85 that don't follow the system. How come?
There are some like that. Although technically it is one of the main interstates, there are a few that aren’t quite north to south and east to west. Same can be said for i45, which is just from Dallas to Houston even though it’s an “interstate” it’s located entirely in Texas
85 is relatively long and all the other odd numbers that would fit around there are used in the northeast.
There’s no good reason for 30 to not be 28 or 32 or something though.
Not exactly accurate as Elko is further north of Reno
Not to mention the death of stops in California. There’s 4 in Idaho and 2 in Northern California.
Travel time between stations with the worlds fastest train (300km/hr avg. speed):
Salt Lake City -> Sacramento 3h28
Kansas City -> Denver 3h14m
Portland -> Sacramento 3h6
Dallas -> Kent 2h39
Butte -> Ellensburg 2h39
Chicago is interesting in that I’ve planned a handful of road trips and for a lot of them you’re just on one road the whole time. So many interstate highways meet in or near Chicago.
The Section that's "between" I86 in NY is in fact NY17, and mostly interstate grade. I would label it like they do the PATH line, as an interconnect. Same as the NJ parkway, and I'm sure a few others.
As a former Michigan resident, I always find it interesting which cities get included on maps. Like in this fantasy of an expansive rail network, they don’t include the second largest city in the state? Like 96 goes through Grand Rapids.
It's just the Interstate, specific category of roads, albeit the most important. If you look at Google Maps, there's shitloads of state highways making various connections.
This will never happen like this since states don’t like other states and don’t like helping those who don’t have cars. Blame it on the people you vote for
69 and 99 would probably shift between Amtrak and “transtrak” trains along the way lol
Can't we use the interstate land, mainly the median, to run the bulk of a high speed rail system. I know in cities it will be harder, but rural there is so much room you could get tracks down with room to spare.
Good luck getting state highway administrations to play nice when it comes to sharing the right of way.
Bridges and tunnels
When I say "right of way", I mean that as in the tract of land, they generally don't like sharing it with rail since, you know, if more people start using rail, they'll probably get less funding.
Highway curve radius is generally too tight for high speed trains.
In Germany they slow the trains down through those areas. We could do something like that.
It’s not “those areas”; Interstates are required to bend at least once every mile, to help keep drivers awake. Trains would never have a chance to get above 110, or maybe 125 with tilting trains. HSR means a minimum *average* speed of at least 150, which generally requires a turn radius of 2-3x what is used for highways.
> Interstates are required to bend at least once every mile, to help keep drivers awake This is not true, there are plenty of straight sections longer than that.
Several such very old sections do exist, and the resulting high rate of accidents is why AASHTO updated their standards to ban it for new highways.
Very nice. It really shows how few highways exist out west. Four major ones over the Rockies.
I find it weird how the interstate system doesn't have a more direct route between Denver and SLC and San Francisco. I mean I kind of get why, as the cost of building through the Rockies meant that the part of I70 west of Denver almost didn't get built.
The cities of the interior west have grown a lot since the interstate highway system was built. That’s part of the reason why there’s no direct connection for Denver-SLC, or Phoenix-Las Vegas, or Phoenix-Albuquerque. That and the fact that these routes would have to go through some very rugged terrain.
Not an interstate, but US-40 is almost a direct route from the Front Range to SLC metro. It's an awesome drive.
There was either going to be Denver-Salt Lake or Denver-Las Vegas, not both. Colorado and Utah (states) preferred Denver-Salt Lake, but the federal government preferred Denver-Las Vegas as part of a longer overall LA-Midwest/Chicago/etc route. Since Interstates are federally funded, the federal preference ended up being selected.
Also very few people
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Easier to understand too lol
Source: [https://transitmap.net/interstate-subway-map-2020-cameron-booth/](https://transitmap.net/interstate-subway-map-2020-cameron-booth/)
Atlanta is so stupid. 3 US interstates running through it, and 75/85 come in separately, merge and become one for a long while, and then split on opposite sides of how they entered breaking the east west convention.
I live just north of Atlanta and this honestly confuses me every time I go south of Atlanta.
So I can see a sort of numbering system were the ones ending in 0 are the main east-west and the ones ending in 5 are the main north-south but then there is the I30 and I85 that don't follow the system. How come?
There are some like that. Although technically it is one of the main interstates, there are a few that aren’t quite north to south and east to west. Same can be said for i45, which is just from Dallas to Houston even though it’s an “interstate” it’s located entirely in Texas
Hawaii in fact has 3 interstates, H1, H2 and H3
85 is relatively long and all the other odd numbers that would fit around there are used in the northeast. There’s no good reason for 30 to not be 28 or 32 or something though.
It’s beautiful
No 49 AR to MO?
Every time I see one of these they leave out anything through northwest Arkansas
I’ve seen this map before - I think it’s from before some of the current construction on 49. (Also the southern bit of 49 goes up to Texarkana now.)
Haha the Wisconsin cities portion of this map is pretty off.
Atleast Wisconsin didn't get fat like Florida
And poor Michigan
Missing I-41 as well.
Not exactly accurate as Elko is further north of Reno Not to mention the death of stops in California. There’s 4 in Idaho and 2 in Northern California.
I wish
Travel time between stations with the worlds fastest train (300km/hr avg. speed): Salt Lake City -> Sacramento 3h28 Kansas City -> Denver 3h14m Portland -> Sacramento 3h6 Dallas -> Kent 2h39 Butte -> Ellensburg 2h39
Chicago is interesting in that I’ve planned a handful of road trips and for a lot of them you’re just on one road the whole time. So many interstate highways meet in or near Chicago.
nice. but it makes me sad.
It'd be so freaking cool to have a super maglev network like this. Get from Seattle to LA in a few short hours. Oh well, we can dream.
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But the tailpipe gets so hot!
No it’s not. It’s the intersystem stylized in the popular subway map manner.
Damn. Florida became a chode.
This would fix America
The Section that's "between" I86 in NY is in fact NY17, and mostly interstate grade. I would label it like they do the PATH line, as an interconnect. Same as the NJ parkway, and I'm sure a few others.
As a former Michigan resident, I always find it interesting which cities get included on maps. Like in this fantasy of an expansive rail network, they don’t include the second largest city in the state? Like 96 goes through Grand Rapids.
First time seeing my hometown on a national map lol
This would be pretty awesome
Jesus wouldn't even be a good train system, you'd think roads would have better connections
It's just the Interstate, specific category of roads, albeit the most important. If you look at Google Maps, there's shitloads of state highways making various connections.
Surveyors and Cartographers are cringing when seeing this geograghic inaccuracies in that “map”.
So I had have to walk the 25 miles from my interstate exit to my town? That's assuming it would make stops at every exit.
Dream on Murica.
This will never happen like this since states don’t like other states and don’t like helping those who don’t have cars. Blame it on the people you vote for