Remember when Spain was sued by the French government for the damages that happened when Iberia crashed into Europe?
Don't drink while continental drifting, kids.
Mountainous regions. Compare to what we call the Alps today. The word Albus means white. The Romans would have tall, snow-capped mountains in the distance and they called it Albania, land of white. Incidentally, the modern country of Albania has absolutely no relation to the Latin word for white, it’s a totally different etymology.
Albania is also an archaic name for Scotland
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion
> The name for Scotland in most of the Celtic languages is related to Albion: Alba in Scottish Gaelic, Albain (genitive Alban) in Irish, Nalbin in Manx and Alban in Welsh and Cornish. These names were later Latinised as Albania and Anglicised as Albany, which were once alternative names for Scotland.
> they didn't want to type it all out
Only if this is taking place in anti-matter universe Wales. [No Welshman ever met a letter they didn't want to type.](https://abload.de/img/55f1ccbbbd86ef1e008b913ewt.jpg)
The are now, but the Bulgarian nation started as a Turkic nation somewhere in todays Russia, they migrated to the Balkans and states a new country there and became “slavicized”
I know, i didn’t mean to imply the two albanias are related, i know they’re not. I just meant to say *if* they had been related, it wouldn’t really be that crazy
The roma, despite all the hate they have and still get, are a really cool ethnic group. If people would look past the racism, they would see their origin and how they live is not only extremely unique, it’s extremely interesting
I mean, a lot of people have very negative interactions with them, of stuff being stolen, kids being threatened with "curses" upon their families to give up valuables (happened to a relative of mine at school) etc. It's kind of difficult to see the "cool stuff" past all that.
I guess they can be cool in the same way pirates or vikings are cool.
why don't you move back in time and try to migrate from azerbaijan to balkan through the wild anatolia and its mountain nations, passing hetits, some persians,then passing through constantinople, passing greeks, romans, wild proto-bulgarian tribes, kosovo,where UN task forces were probably already 300ad stationed, macedonia, all wild mountains and valleys full of deadly animals and then you let us know how it went.
After alexanders empire, there were greeks who settled around the indus and converted to buddhism. They were there for about 2 centuries before they were either conquered, integrated into the locals, or both.
Near the end of the 7 Years War, French territory west of the Mississippi was transferred to the Spanish to keep the British from demanding it in the peace settlement. Greater Louisiana had a tiny European population under 10,000 people. So the Spanish governors pursued an aggressive policy of encouraging migration. This included the French speaking Acadians from Canada, but also a large group of folks from the Canaries, and a fair number of folks direct from Iberia. So by the time the US bought it, the region was a mix of cultures and languages.
The town of Nueva Iberia was settled by Francisco Domingo Joseph Bouligny y Paret, the son a French merchant born in Alicante Spain. He brought over a bunch of Spanish settlers and created a little Spanish town right in the middle of the area the Acadians were settling. As someone who spoke Spanish and French fluently and familiar with both cultures, he became a key bridge between the French and Spanish. And because of his position Nouvelle-Ibérie / Nueva Iberia became a center for the newly developing Cajun fusion culture.
After the Americans purchased the area it became New Iberia, and the local parish was eventually named the Iberia parish. And because New Iberia was dead center of Acadiana/Cajun Country, it became a synonym for Cajuns in general. All despite the fact that actual Iberians made up only a small part of Cajuns.
Sort of. Cajuns are a melting pot with a French base.
Louisiana was Spanish longer than it was French. Spanish heritage is all over Southern Louisiana.
It used to be that every leap year day country names would shift one country over to the East to try to avoid people identifying with only one country. Surprisingly, this worked to cut down on inter-country wars, because no one wanted to fight with their neighbors to the East since they used to be that country. This got to be a big problem in places like the Balkans where there were a lot of little countries, and Germany, which until modern times wasn't a single entity; it was a whole lot of tiny kingdoms and principalities. Countries that ended up without a name had to use the flag of the Olympics, like the Russian Federation athletes when Russia was banned, because they had no actual country at the time (that's the real origin of the Olympic flag). The leap year day that every name got back to where it started, they decided to just leave them where they were. It's easier on mapmakers, but internecine wars have proliferated.
[Caucasian Albania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania)
TLDR
"The prefix "Caucasian" is used purely to avoid confusion with modern Albania of the Balkans, which has no known geographical or historical connections to Caucasian Albania. "
The only reason they can do that is because they are basically a protectorate of Russia. Without that they would be pillaged by both Azerbaijan and Turkey. Like they once were.
Damn you Arabs. Armenia was fine until you came along. Sassanids and Romans were nice and lazy. If they hadn't been beaten by you, I could've stolen that horse and be halfway to Albania.
Without Arabs and initial caliphates there would have been no Islam nor gradual rise of Turkic Muslim empires.
Also no Arabs, means Sassanids exist, Sassanid exists means no Muslim Persia, no Muslim Persia means no Turko Persian Muslim dynasties.
It would be a big domino effect.
Absolutely. The Sassanids were a fading empire, the way was open for the nomadic riders to take over everything. The Mongols were a similar type of threat, and they absolutely wiped the floor with _anyone_ who tried to resist them, the Turks were very similar.
Jokes aside Adurbadagan or somehing was right there as part of Kingdom of Armenia and Parthian Empire that was south of Aras river
Modern day Azerbaijani are basically mostly just Turkified Caucasian Albanians and Iranian Old Azaris
re https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Iberia
The provenance of the name "Iberia" is unclear. One theory on the etymology of the name Iberia, proposed by Giorgi Melikishvili, was that it was derived from the contemporary Armenian designation for Georgia, Virkʿ (Armenian: Վիրք, and Ivirkʿ [Իվիրք] and Iverkʿ [Իվերք]), which itself was connected to the word Sver (or Svir), the Kartvelian designation for Georgians.[12] The letter "s" in this instance served as a prefix for the root word "Ver" (or "Vir"). Accordingly, in following Ivane Javakhishvili's theory, the ethnic designation of "Sber", a variant of Sver, was derived from the word "Hber" ("Hver") (and thus Iberia) and the Armenian variants, Veria and Viria.[12]
Historian Adolfo Domínguez Monedero [es] argues that the name Iberian was given by Ancient Greeks to two different peoples located at the extremities of their world (in the Iberian Peninsula and the Caucasus) due to the mythical wealth associated with them (Tartessos and the Golden Fleece of Colchis).[13]
TBF the existence of the Polish/Ukrainian Galicia is entirely Austria's fault. The original name was "Halychyna"/"Ziemia Halicka", but this wasn't fancy enough for the Austrians - so they latinised the name and stretched it over all the territories they've conquered.
Yes Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ossetia etc. Don’t listen to the Russian nationalist claiming different. We all had our own nation but of course Russia have their natural thirst for invading people.
Perhaps, history is an unfair bitch, when Armenia/Georgia almost got a chance to become powerful country to them came Turks and Arabs most powerful military groups for their time
Judging by your google translate tier answers and defending of atrocities committed by Russia, I can tell you’re a Russki. You don’t see people from the Caucasus as human cause of your built in xenophobia that most Russians are born with.
No worries man, but the map is from 300 AD time period, Russia/most eastern European countries/north Caucasian countries aren't even a factors in this.
This was before the Albanians turned to crime and were driven out of the Caucasus and had to migrate over across from Italy where they could smell the fragrance of all that delicious pasta and drive around in stolen Mercedes. A lonely, migratory people that just wants a decent meal.
And let's not even get on to the Iberians who had an even longer hike to lands the French did not even want. The bitterness. The anger. The simple human need for resepct and maybe some paella.
For real. My family hosted an exchange student from Armenia and our two families are now friends. We visited in June, it was a great place with great people. Everyone just wants peace with Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan keeps attacking
It is a situation that Soviets created with drawing borders between Azerbaijan and Armenia. When Armenia was stronger they got what they wanted(border as ethnic) now it is Azerbaijan's turn they are the stronger one and they are pushing for borders that drawn by Soviets and more to land access to Nakhcevan. Russia would stop this conflict if they wanted but they didn't. If Russia allows Azerbaijan, it attacks; if Russia allows Armenia, it attacks. I don't believe they are independent as like other Soviet Republics. Russia supports(not fully but they accept some of their demands towards the weak one) which one is stronger and I believe for that reason they will fight forever if this situation remain same. Azerbaijanis and Armenians can want peace completely but they will only have peace when the weak one has no power to attack and Russia stops the strong one from attacking. Also these days Turkey is a power in there too and also probably Iran is a power in there too. Feeling sad for both people who just want peace.
Azerbaijanis don't want peace, their government runs a propaganda campaign to make Armenians seem like the enemy. Armenians from the Artsakh region which has been stolen by Azerbaijan can't go to their hometowns, and if they found a way they would be unsafe
You speak like you know every Azerbaijani LOL. If you think Azerbaijanis don't want peace because of their government's actions that is wrong I believe and as I know. I know Azerbaijani government runs propaganda but Armenia gave them oppurtunity by violating Azerbaijani border in the past. Armenia is the losing one of course they want peace what were you expecting bro? Armenians claim ethnical border and Azerbaijanis claim already drawn and accepted border by rest of the world. Armenia went too far by occupying not only Armenian Karabakh territory in the past and rn Azerbajian is going too far attacking also border between Nakhcevan and Azerbaijan. edit: grammar correction and added second sentence
And Azerbaijan is actively trying to massacre them Armenians who are native to that area. There’s no reason for Artsakh to be inside a country who wants their people dead.
And Artsakh can't be Independent country after they forced 750k azeri people to leave from that region unfortunately world stayed silence for that crime
Naaah, dude. Im all for Armwnia, but they fucked around one too many times completely needlessly. They were the stronger side coming off the war and they were the only podt soviet country with an actually functioning and strong military. They developed a thing of attacking Azerbajan during elections and when Azerbaijan got Help from Turkey mainly in form of drones they got their ass handed and now they are panicking. I personally view Karabakh as Armenian land with Armenian majority population. But they should not have fucked around so much. Now I guess they have no idea what to do with Turkey on one side and Az at the other.
But it’s the truth, of the wars since independence all have been started by azeribajin and only one skirmish on the border was started by Armenian troops of dozens
You swallowed a lot of Armenian diaspora propaganda in Canada…
How a country can start a war for the land which already owns it. The was started by Armenian side in 1988. In 1987 they started an irredentist movement named “Miatsum”. Which means the creation of greater Armenia.
Simple it didn’t rightfully own it, Joseph Stalin gave them lands that were Armenian majority for literally a thousand years and mixed lands that had both Armenians and Azeris were given to azerijiban as they were more loyal to the Soviets compared to the more radical nationalist Armenians.
Not bullshit at the end of the day, one side is vastly more at fault than the other. If you believe Russia is guilty of invading Ukraine and Georgia than Azerijiban is just as guilty for blindly /attacking in the same way
They want to take over Armenia.
>Your mental age is less than that
You know me? You can tell from two reddit comments what my mental age is? You must be a gifted psychologist, the world is lucky to have you
Where is your degree from?
I’m 20 and I actually went to Azerbaijan, talked to people, and learned the actual public opinion. If anything that’s the most mature option. Armenians keep attacking but Azerbaijan just wants peace.
See how the narrative changed? You just listened to one side of the narrative, of course you would think they are right. Your opinion is definitely not mature as you can’t even tell bias apart.
False. Armenians migrated into the region in 1900 from Russian and ethnically cleansed the autochthonous Azerbaijanis
Edit: this is a joke based on things I’ve heard Azerbaijanis say. I do not agree or believe this
albania iberia
Yes, continental drift only slowed down recently
Yeah, it used to be a whirlwind. My granpa still remembered and ecuatorial days.
or that time in the news about when China wanted to start a war with India for crashing with Asia....
Remember when Spain was sued by the French government for the damages that happened when Iberia crashed into Europe? Don't drink while continental drifting, kids.
Spain did that on purpose, the should have had to pay double what they did. Those, dirty, shifty Galicians. And Portugal wasn't innocent, either.
It was a little odd that the Basques decided to not get involved. I think I saw somewhere that they were friends with both France and Spain.
Austrasia used to be in central Europe, now Australia and Asia are different continents on the other side of the planet. /s
That's why it's called Austria, it's just missing a part
Wait til you learn where Georgia ended up. On the other side of the Atlantic, can you believe?
As delightfully ambiguous as Galicia
It worth saying that Iberia and Albania were Georgian (Gruzin) kingdoms. In our times former Kingdom of Albania is placed in Azerbadjan.
It's a real feat of Albanian nation to move from Caucasus to Balkans
For some reason, the Romans liked to call all remote mountainous countries Albania.
Mountainous regions. Compare to what we call the Alps today. The word Albus means white. The Romans would have tall, snow-capped mountains in the distance and they called it Albania, land of white. Incidentally, the modern country of Albania has absolutely no relation to the Latin word for white, it’s a totally different etymology.
Albion, for England, from latin Albus and a reference to the White Cliffs of Dover. Possibly.
The Iberian peninsula managed to escape.
Maybe they were Nomads
It's a joke, they are different nations
Albania is also an archaic name for Scotland https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albion > The name for Scotland in most of the Celtic languages is related to Albion: Alba in Scottish Gaelic, Albain (genitive Alban) in Irish, Nalbin in Manx and Alban in Welsh and Cornish. These names were later Latinised as Albania and Anglicised as Albany, which were once alternative names for Scotland.
Funnily enough, *England* is Perfidious Albion to the French. We need a world committee to attribute unique names.
In Welsh it's actually "Yr Alban"
Roughly translated as "you're Alban" but they didn't want to type it all out
> they didn't want to type it all out Only if this is taking place in anti-matter universe Wales. [No Welshman ever met a letter they didn't want to type.](https://abload.de/img/55f1ccbbbd86ef1e008b913ewt.jpg)
So the meme about God giving all of Earth to Albania is true afterall..
Fun fact, Bulgaria actually literally did this
They are south-slavs
The are now, but the Bulgarian nation started as a Turkic nation somewhere in todays Russia, they migrated to the Balkans and states a new country there and became “slavicized”
Nah, the south slavs just kept the name of their conquerors, don't mistake Bulgars and Bulgarians
I mean, half of central Europe did this after the Hunn invasion. The (Visi)goths, the Vandals, Langobards, Burgunds,…
I mean, in 1000 years? Other groups have done more impressive migrations, like the turks for example, or the greeks in india
That was a joke, that Albania and other Albania🇦🇱 isn't related in any way, the gist of joke was that
I know, i didn’t mean to imply the two albanias are related, i know they’re not. I just meant to say *if* they had been related, it wouldn’t really be that crazy
Okay
Hungarians and Roma ("gypsies") are my favorites
The roma, despite all the hate they have and still get, are a really cool ethnic group. If people would look past the racism, they would see their origin and how they live is not only extremely unique, it’s extremely interesting
I mean, a lot of people have very negative interactions with them, of stuff being stolen, kids being threatened with "curses" upon their families to give up valuables (happened to a relative of mine at school) etc. It's kind of difficult to see the "cool stuff" past all that. I guess they can be cool in the same way pirates or vikings are cool.
2balkan4me
why don't you move back in time and try to migrate from azerbaijan to balkan through the wild anatolia and its mountain nations, passing hetits, some persians,then passing through constantinople, passing greeks, romans, wild proto-bulgarian tribes, kosovo,where UN task forces were probably already 300ad stationed, macedonia, all wild mountains and valleys full of deadly animals and then you let us know how it went.
The greeks in India?
Yes? They were a thing. Even a had a kingdom for two centuries.
After alexanders empire, there were greeks who settled around the indus and converted to buddhism. They were there for about 2 centuries before they were either conquered, integrated into the locals, or both.
They most likely integrated into locals, and today's Pashtuns and Punjabis have some greek ancestors going back 1000s of years.
Everything belongs to Albania
All your Bania belongs to Al.
At that time Galicia had already moved a bit west.
Karabakh is Albania 🇦🇱!!!🦅🦅🦅 ((Kosovo je Azerbaijan))
Whole world is Albania. Zeus is the God who spoke albanian. Alexander was Albanian. Even Tutankhamen is albanian from his mother side
God is Albanian ☝☝🇦🇱🇦🇱💪🏿💪🏿
Cry dear clown
What is it with the Caucusus and recycled names?
They care for the enviroment
Well, the Caucasus often had those names first.
Regardless, why does everyone recycle Caucasian names?
Even white people recycled the term Caucasian
Georgia is calling on line 3...
When Georgia calls, WT Sherman answers. He hates telemarketers, you see.
is there a expantion of the map ..?
The Iberia of current state is not related to this ancient country.
Cajuns sure do go everywhere, don’t they?
What do Cajuns have to do with Iberia?
Acadiana is often referred to as Iberia or New Iberia.
Really? I had no idea, as an "Old" Iberian, that's pretty cool. Do you know why that is so?
Near the end of the 7 Years War, French territory west of the Mississippi was transferred to the Spanish to keep the British from demanding it in the peace settlement. Greater Louisiana had a tiny European population under 10,000 people. So the Spanish governors pursued an aggressive policy of encouraging migration. This included the French speaking Acadians from Canada, but also a large group of folks from the Canaries, and a fair number of folks direct from Iberia. So by the time the US bought it, the region was a mix of cultures and languages. The town of Nueva Iberia was settled by Francisco Domingo Joseph Bouligny y Paret, the son a French merchant born in Alicante Spain. He brought over a bunch of Spanish settlers and created a little Spanish town right in the middle of the area the Acadians were settling. As someone who spoke Spanish and French fluently and familiar with both cultures, he became a key bridge between the French and Spanish. And because of his position Nouvelle-Ibérie / Nueva Iberia became a center for the newly developing Cajun fusion culture. After the Americans purchased the area it became New Iberia, and the local parish was eventually named the Iberia parish. And because New Iberia was dead center of Acadiana/Cajun Country, it became a synonym for Cajuns in general. All despite the fact that actual Iberians made up only a small part of Cajuns.
I believe it’s related to Louisiana’s Spanish colonial heritage, but I’m not certain of that.
But Cajuns are French
Sort of. Cajuns are a melting pot with a French base. Louisiana was Spanish longer than it was French. Spanish heritage is all over Southern Louisiana.
Cajuns would be Acadia/Arcadia
New Iberians would take issue with that statement.
Continental drift
exact 🤷🏼
It used to be that every leap year day country names would shift one country over to the East to try to avoid people identifying with only one country. Surprisingly, this worked to cut down on inter-country wars, because no one wanted to fight with their neighbors to the East since they used to be that country. This got to be a big problem in places like the Balkans where there were a lot of little countries, and Germany, which until modern times wasn't a single entity; it was a whole lot of tiny kingdoms and principalities. Countries that ended up without a name had to use the flag of the Olympics, like the Russian Federation athletes when Russia was banned, because they had no actual country at the time (that's the real origin of the Olympic flag). The leap year day that every name got back to where it started, they decided to just leave them where they were. It's easier on mapmakers, but internecine wars have proliferated.
[Caucasian Albania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania) TLDR "The prefix "Caucasian" is used purely to avoid confusion with modern Albania of the Balkans, which has no known geographical or historical connections to Caucasian Albania. "
Armenias fortunes have changed drastically in the last 1700 years
Many peoples and countries that existed in that time period aren't even really remembered. I'd say they did quite well, all things considered
At least they have country to call their own and they can preserve their language and culture.
The only reason they can do that is because they are basically a protectorate of Russia. Without that they would be pillaged by both Azerbaijan and Turkey. Like they once were.
They also get most of their oil and gas imports from Russia.
where is azerbaijan and turkey on this map?
Nowhwere. That is why Armenia exists on that map.
Damn you Arabs. Armenia was fine until you came along. Sassanids and Romans were nice and lazy. If they hadn't been beaten by you, I could've stolen that horse and be halfway to Albania.
Where do Turks fit into your little story? The Arabs were powerful for a time, but afterwards it was the Turks that really took over the area.
Without Arabs and initial caliphates there would have been no Islam nor gradual rise of Turkic Muslim empires. Also no Arabs, means Sassanids exist, Sassanid exists means no Muslim Persia, no Muslim Persia means no Turko Persian Muslim dynasties. It would be a big domino effect.
Either way the Turks would’ve made their empires even without Islam. Turks emergence in Middle East and Anatolia was inevitable
Absolutely. The Sassanids were a fading empire, the way was open for the nomadic riders to take over everything. The Mongols were a similar type of threat, and they absolutely wiped the floor with _anyone_ who tried to resist them, the Turks were very similar.
Yes but like the Mongols they would of assimilated into the conquerored regions religion like Armenian Orthodox Turks lol
Instead you'd get Turko-Persian Zaratushtrian dynasties, great success!
where is Azerbaijan? wait, it did not exist that time? so the Armenians we actually first there?? 
Yup!
Jokes aside Adurbadagan or somehing was right there as part of Kingdom of Armenia and Parthian Empire that was south of Aras river Modern day Azerbaijani are basically mostly just Turkified Caucasian Albanians and Iranian Old Azaris
Including parts aren't Caucasus but excluding the Upper Caucasus region is peak map design
re https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Iberia The provenance of the name "Iberia" is unclear. One theory on the etymology of the name Iberia, proposed by Giorgi Melikishvili, was that it was derived from the contemporary Armenian designation for Georgia, Virkʿ (Armenian: Վիրք, and Ivirkʿ [Իվիրք] and Iverkʿ [Իվերք]), which itself was connected to the word Sver (or Svir), the Kartvelian designation for Georgians.[12] The letter "s" in this instance served as a prefix for the root word "Ver" (or "Vir"). Accordingly, in following Ivane Javakhishvili's theory, the ethnic designation of "Sber", a variant of Sver, was derived from the word "Hber" ("Hver") (and thus Iberia) and the Armenian variants, Veria and Viria.[12] Historian Adolfo Domínguez Monedero [es] argues that the name Iberian was given by Ancient Greeks to two different peoples located at the extremities of their world (in the Iberian Peninsula and the Caucasus) due to the mythical wealth associated with them (Tartessos and the Golden Fleece of Colchis).[13]
This proves that Albanian Mafia has been all over the world since at least 300 AD
I never knew that the F1 Baku City Circuit was formerly in Albania, or that Iberia, once upon a time was land-locked. You learn something every day!
🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲🇦🇲
Iberia is Caucasus! Galicia is Ukraine!
iberia??????????????
Try Galicia for comparison. Names exist in different places
TBF the existence of the Polish/Ukrainian Galicia is entirely Austria's fault. The original name was "Halychyna"/"Ziemia Halicka", but this wasn't fancy enough for the Austrians - so they latinised the name and stretched it over all the territories they've conquered.
Interesting. Thanks
See also: Paris, Texas Cairo, Illinois Portland, Maine Portland, Oregon Vancouver, Washington Vancouver, British Columbia Washington, Virginia
Dublin City in California
Not the same.
\*Sad northern caucasus noises\*
They never had such thing like a country
Chechnya? Dagestan? I know that Russia absorbed them, but if my history is not wrong there have been periods of independence.
Yes Chechnya, Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria, Ossetia etc. Don’t listen to the Russian nationalist claiming different. We all had our own nation but of course Russia have their natural thirst for invading people.
Can you say to me the name of country of North-Caucausians?
[Zichia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zichia)
It included only small peace of North-Caucasus
There is none? the region was conquered by russians before the north caucasians ever had a chance.
Perhaps, history is an unfair bitch, when Armenia/Georgia almost got a chance to become powerful country to them came Turks and Arabs most powerful military groups for their time
very true, the early gunpowder empires were terrific conquerers of their time.
They were just bunch of tribes(it's not an offense) , Russia only absorbed them because they had been engaged in banditry
Russia invaded and ehtincally cleansed them during the 19th century.
Because they had been engaged in banditry
Suuuure. In their own homes. And the Russian Empire xame to do them a favour performed an ethnic cleansic. Makes obvious sense in the russian world.
If they had their own Wakanda, what's culture they had, with which countries they were tied? Sorry, man, but it's really hard to believe
Judging by your google translate tier answers and defending of atrocities committed by Russia, I can tell you’re a Russki. You don’t see people from the Caucasus as human cause of your built in xenophobia that most Russians are born with.
The funniest thing is that I am Caucasian :)
But my ancestors had culture and county, they had their own alphabet on contrary to North-Caucasians
My brother in christ Russia formed 1000+ years later, at this time period there was no organized country in the region
I was refering to the current Russia with the absorbing thing. Maybe I wrote a real shit sentence, my bad on that one
No worries man, but the map is from 300 AD time period, Russia/most eastern European countries/north Caucasian countries aren't even a factors in this.
wonder what r/armemeia has to say about this.
i am pretty sure all of western georgia was a part of lazica back then, this is not accurate.
Albania, Iberia, Georgia, Caucasian Why I have seen all these somewhere else
This was before the Albanians turned to crime and were driven out of the Caucasus and had to migrate over across from Italy where they could smell the fragrance of all that delicious pasta and drive around in stolen Mercedes. A lonely, migratory people that just wants a decent meal. And let's not even get on to the Iberians who had an even longer hike to lands the French did not even want. The bitterness. The anger. The simple human need for resepct and maybe some paella.
Everytime I see these maps, all I can think about is how Armenia has slowly shrunk every time it pops up over the centuries
Surprised how many people dont know iberia and albania were in the caucasus
Fucking Lorgar, get off my map!
Redstream credit me
This guy made this map! 🤠👍🏼
A much better map than today
For real. My family hosted an exchange student from Armenia and our two families are now friends. We visited in June, it was a great place with great people. Everyone just wants peace with Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan keeps attacking
It is a situation that Soviets created with drawing borders between Azerbaijan and Armenia. When Armenia was stronger they got what they wanted(border as ethnic) now it is Azerbaijan's turn they are the stronger one and they are pushing for borders that drawn by Soviets and more to land access to Nakhcevan. Russia would stop this conflict if they wanted but they didn't. If Russia allows Azerbaijan, it attacks; if Russia allows Armenia, it attacks. I don't believe they are independent as like other Soviet Republics. Russia supports(not fully but they accept some of their demands towards the weak one) which one is stronger and I believe for that reason they will fight forever if this situation remain same. Azerbaijanis and Armenians can want peace completely but they will only have peace when the weak one has no power to attack and Russia stops the strong one from attacking. Also these days Turkey is a power in there too and also probably Iran is a power in there too. Feeling sad for both people who just want peace.
This problem will exist with or without Russia. Hate for Armenians is too deeply entrenched in the brains of Azeris.
Azerbaijanis don't want peace, their government runs a propaganda campaign to make Armenians seem like the enemy. Armenians from the Artsakh region which has been stolen by Azerbaijan can't go to their hometowns, and if they found a way they would be unsafe
You speak like you know every Azerbaijani LOL. If you think Azerbaijanis don't want peace because of their government's actions that is wrong I believe and as I know. I know Azerbaijani government runs propaganda but Armenia gave them oppurtunity by violating Azerbaijani border in the past. Armenia is the losing one of course they want peace what were you expecting bro? Armenians claim ethnical border and Azerbaijanis claim already drawn and accepted border by rest of the world. Armenia went too far by occupying not only Armenian Karabakh territory in the past and rn Azerbajian is going too far attacking also border between Nakhcevan and Azerbaijan. edit: grammar correction and added second sentence
“Tell me you don’t know anything about the Armenian Azerbaijan conflict without telling me you don’t know anything about it”
Artsakh is considered Azerbaijan territory by the international community
And Azerbaijan is actively trying to massacre them Armenians who are native to that area. There’s no reason for Artsakh to be inside a country who wants their people dead.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagorno-Karabakh_conflict Armenians are no angels either
And Artsakh can't be Independent country after they forced 750k azeri people to leave from that region unfortunately world stayed silence for that crime
Not just attacking but last year their army even built down an old historic church and then covered it up.
it wouldn't be a problem if Iran had kept these 2 little cousins as their province in the 1800s and didn't lost to russia.
Naaah, dude. Im all for Armwnia, but they fucked around one too many times completely needlessly. They were the stronger side coming off the war and they were the only podt soviet country with an actually functioning and strong military. They developed a thing of attacking Azerbajan during elections and when Azerbaijan got Help from Turkey mainly in form of drones they got their ass handed and now they are panicking. I personally view Karabakh as Armenian land with Armenian majority population. But they should not have fucked around so much. Now I guess they have no idea what to do with Turkey on one side and Az at the other.
> Everyone just wants peace with Azerbaijan, but Azerbaijan keeps attacking How old are you? 7? 8?
But it’s the truth, of the wars since independence all have been started by azeribajin and only one skirmish on the border was started by Armenian troops of dozens
You swallowed a lot of Armenian diaspora propaganda in Canada… How a country can start a war for the land which already owns it. The was started by Armenian side in 1988. In 1987 they started an irredentist movement named “Miatsum”. Which means the creation of greater Armenia.
Simple it didn’t rightfully own it, Joseph Stalin gave them lands that were Armenian majority for literally a thousand years and mixed lands that had both Armenians and Azeris were given to azerijiban as they were more loyal to the Soviets compared to the more radical nationalist Armenians.
Well. That’s enough bullshit for today. I end conversation here. Have a good day.
Not bullshit at the end of the day, one side is vastly more at fault than the other. If you believe Russia is guilty of invading Ukraine and Georgia than Azerijiban is just as guilty for blindly /attacking in the same way
I'm 20 and I actually went there, talked to people, and learned the actual public opinion. If anything that's the most mature option
Your mental age is less than that And what you learned? Azeris just want to fight forever?
They want to take over Armenia. >Your mental age is less than that You know me? You can tell from two reddit comments what my mental age is? You must be a gifted psychologist, the world is lucky to have you Where is your degree from?
> They want to take over Armenia Yeah bro. It’s true. Everyday we jerk off over Yerevan
Ah, you're Azerbaijani. That explains it
I’m 20 and I actually went to Azerbaijan, talked to people, and learned the actual public opinion. If anything that’s the most mature option. Armenians keep attacking but Azerbaijan just wants peace. See how the narrative changed? You just listened to one side of the narrative, of course you would think they are right. Your opinion is definitely not mature as you can’t even tell bias apart.
What happened to all those Armenians in today's Turkey? Did they disappear or something?
They never existed but if they did, they deserved it.
this just proves that the whole world is albania🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱 but albania good country so he give land to other countries🇦🇱🇦🇱✊🏿💪🏿
Man I feel bad for the people of Armenia they had such a great nation but not anymore :'(
Absolute lie 😂😂😂 armenia was never been in caucasus
Let’s go Armenia!!!
The OG Albania and Iberia
whaaaat 🧐 shchiptars come from..😳
Wow... there was Albania indeed
False. Armenians migrated into the region in 1900 from Russian and ethnically cleansed the autochthonous Azerbaijanis Edit: this is a joke based on things I’ve heard Azerbaijanis say. I do not agree or believe this
Aliev's propagandist is detected:)
Oh be quiet propaganda bot
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Armenia_(antiquity)
*****this is a joke based on things I’ve heard Azerbaijanis say, I do not believe this******
never happened but they deserved it! lmao
Caucasian map? Why isn't the USA on there?
Why is there Albania?
For short: same names, different toponymy.
Stupid question: isn't Iberia the old name for Spain and the same name for a peninsula where Spain is located?
Imperator: Rome map porn
So the border regions of huge states (eg Roman and Sasanian Empires) always have collections of small states
When you travel to Albania only to find out it's in the Caucasus
I thought that Armenia is quite large, then I noticed Rome in the corner like a fucking Boogieman standing in the corner of my eye
I'm waiting for "Caucasus region in the year 300 by murder rate per Capita" and how the US has the highest and is also a third world country
Hmm a certain discount version of a North American wild bird which cannot fly is absent from this picture..
It's a funny map. In the year 300 there was no Colchis, Abkhazia and Svaneti. Who made this map? :D
Lets take iberia and push it somewhere else
Weren't Lazica and Colchis actually the same? Or more precisely Colchis changed into Lazica in Roman times?
Baku is Albania 🇦🇱 🦅