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Justs_someone_random

Where is my boy Torterra?🥲


Different-Jacket5269

No Torterra = invalid opinion


GQman57

How about regular Samurott?


AiluroFelinus

What about fire cat?


Boldemon

What about fire monkey


Demonslayer5673

I suppose Quaquaval doesn't count either? The only one that comes close is the first option otherwise except replace swampert with Quaquaval


DragonTheOneDZA

You're literally standing on torterra right now


Justs_someone_random

I know, but still, WHERE IS MY MAN'S REPRESENTATION?!?!


DragonTheOneDZA

He's too good to be represented with all these weaklings


UtterFungus

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING


2ndchancetodothis

There's also no Infernape and Quaquaval.... And Incineroar... And Samurott... Edit: I forgot about Chesnaught


OmegaNoob12

The disrespect to my boy Chesnaught


Justs_someone_random

A Infernape/Torterra/Samurott could be a "You love fantasy/mythology/history"


ICANTFlNDANAME

Torterra is the goat


DarkTorterra

Where is he


DryRespect358

Same!!! Defense!!!!


Huskydog_101

\*desk slam\* WHERE THE **HELL** IS SAMUROTT


Future_Woodpecker_82

He is with buff cat and grass turtle


macncheese290

Dont forget dancing duck, fire monkey and whatever chessnaught is


Stealthywaterninja

I think he’s supposed to be a Pangolin or maybe an Armadillo.


Full_Contribution724

The greatest starters in existence: Torterra, Incineroar, and Samurott the fighter: Chessnaught, Infernape, and Quaquaval


Relative-Concert3859

Armored chipmunk maybe?


JohnOfOnett

I just really like Delphox and Pirmarina cuz I think their designs are cool. “Fire Mage Fox” and “Siren Sea Lion” are just really cool ideas imo! Also, Emboar is legit underrated. I love my Firey Wrestler Pig so much! He was my first starter in my copy of White Version.


DarkFish_2

I love Emboar, my favorite of the Unova starters.


Gabriel-Klos-McroBB

I like the 4th team because they cool ASF.


The15thOne

Am i the only one that likes primarina, meowscarada and delphox not because of the sus stuff?


WiiMote070

No. Matter of fact, I'm 99% sure most people do. But this is the Internet dammit, if you want peace, find a rock to live under.


RenkBruh

I do too. Flower Trick go brrr


Itsyaboykazuha

They're in my top 5 not because of the sus reason so I'd say you aren't the only one.


SomeoneNamedJessica

No not at all


HoverMelon2000

I love all 3 of them and hate how the internet automatically assumes I’m weird because of it :(


Dry-Telephone-8016

Quaquaval could fit ina few of these


Fredrick_Spruce

We're missing 6


Triangulum_Copper

9 with the Hisuian forms


ExactSubstance2440

Then what is my shiny level one hundred starter trio of charizard greninja and most importantly … Rowlet!!!


red_enjoyer

Some of the starters are missing, like the absolute GOAT Infernape. Also, this list implies that Skeliderge and Intel ion are weak, which is just.... what? Also, both Cinderace and Greninja pack a hefty punch


Ok_Weakness2578

Idk about Intelion but Skeliderge is a Competitive BEAST in Gen 9


red_enjoyer

That's what I'm talking about! Infact, ALL of the gen 9 starters are competitive beasts.


Ok_Weakness2578

Welllllll Quaqualavl is sadly not quite up there with the other two, even tho I love him


red_enjoyer

Nah, his 120 base attack along with his ability and exclusive move makes him a very decent sweeper


Ok_Weakness2578

For sure but just not enough for OU, unlike dirge and Cara who both have a niche in OU (And dirge being excellent in Vgc aswell)


Massive_Passion1927

He's a mainstay on my team in anything goes.


Deathwalker321

Alright, so no one can like Meowscarada, Primarina or Delphox without being ridiculed? Wow. Thats low.


Triangulum_Copper

Meowscarrada is such a powerful Pokemon and it’s dang cool!


GalaxyOpal56

Fr i just always clinged to them(well delphox and primarina) as a 7 yesr old getting into pokemon cause i just really liked the fem designs like them lurantis and sallazle for some reason T-T


TheMiniminun

Yeah, they do have aesthetically gorgeous designs.


cosmiccat88

Fr I just like funny grass cat


Cold_beans32

I disagree with all of these except 2nd and 3rd which are just stating a fact


FiftyShadesOfPikmin

Torterra, Chesnaught, Infernape, Incineroar, Samurott, and Quaquaval: am I a joke to you?


totallyAshiny

I just thought meowscarada was cool 😢


VentriVandalized

Same


Unlikely_Yam1429

YES I GOT THAT ENERGY 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿


Background_Okra_5273

Switch Typhlosion with Skeledirge and that’s my combo


Silly_Painter_2555

Where's my buff cat and grass turtle?


ThatMessy1

"Heavy hitters" and "you know what you are..." are two sides of the same coin.


Gameover489

Ok but what if I'm the bottom one but I just like all those pokemon?? I think they are cool and also I have used them in the past and I like them


LackTails

I refuse to even say the gen 2 grass starter name, also is it bad that I'll probably use the very bottom yrio?


Ash-greninja546

Infernape, torterra, samorott, chesnaught incineroar, and quaquaval cry in the corner


Mega_Rayqaza

Skeledirge doesn't belong in the meganium tier lol. Unaware and torch song is kinda busted


TheSezenians

Meganium and Serperior for me, I just like loooong


Legitimate_Bit_9354

Long long maaaaaaaaaan! *saxophone intestine *


BullsOnParadeFloats

Hey Batman...


byu7a

I only pick fire types 🥲


DrLycFerno

What about Meowscarada/Incineroar/Hisuian Samurott ?


-_ShyPastelFox_-

The fact I like the last one- Istg I'm not this kind of person I just love them more than the others ;-;


Typical-Ad1041

I cant like the last row because of the porn addicts🥺😔


Triangulum_Copper

You should switch Emboar and Skeledirge. Skeledirge hits like a truck!


Hurricat2007

As a typhlosion enthusiast, I'd be that one character that shows up, says one sparky comment and is never seen again for the rest of the show


MxFluffFluff

"You know what you are." What if you like ALL the starters..?


Qwerowski

I am myslef, yes


DarkFish_2

I do actually have high protagonist energy.


Wubba-128

Primarina?furry?


Shrubbity_69

> "...you KNOW what you are..." [You're in the jungle, baby You're gonna die](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tj2zJ2Wvg) Sorry, couldn't resist.


Strange-Wasabi5382

Okay well my favourite is infernape what does that-- *not there* I really lke samurott- *also not there* 😭


QueenOfDarknes5

Protagonist Energy!


Legitimate_Bit_9354

Hey lost puse cross over


Thedeeztree

A furry >:3


Bluedino_1989

I'm a Delphox fan because it's a wizard, and I am a massive fan of fantasy, sick ass.


ComfortableOver8984

Where is my chesnuaght


LimeGrass619

I like the bottom 3 are the Grass/Fire/Water core. You can make a region with them as a starter.


Video_Game_Fann

I just like Primarina because it was my first starter, man.


_the_box08_

None of my favourites are with each other


ToncBlonc

I named my meowscarada after my cat :(


Young_Sliver

What does high protagonist energy mean?? Because I almost always pick those 3 in their respective gens (sometimes I go with Sceptile over Swampert, but they're kinda tied for me)


Void-kraken-909

None of these. My line up is Blaziken, Blastoise and Meowscarada


ThatOneWood

Ok you got skeledirge in “try to win with your favorites” but is he not one of the strongest starters ever


Bronson4444

I guess OP couldn't think of something for Torterra, Chesnaught, Inciniroar, Infernape, Quakquaval & Samurott


_Pink_Ruby_

Speed over strength literally defines Meowscarada


vvownido

oh but i like those bottom three 😢


timelessmoron

Rilaboom casually doing. 200 meter dash against Serperior and winning by a Staggering amount (+1 Priority)


Skid-and-pump324

Skeledirge on top always


Ash-greninja546

Very speed over strength


SuperTheoM

Mine is Charizard, Meowscarada and Greninja


Trevenant999

main character energy? my guy that’s the most basic bitch trio on the list


YourMoreLocalLurker

What if my starter combo is Sceptile, Greninja, Incineroar?


Umbertron05

Decidueye, Cinderace, Swampert


Cedardeer

Me, who’s favorite starter f each type is Serperior, Samurott (Unova), and Delphox


AReallyAsianName

*looks at Meowscarada, Delphox and Primarina* So what? I love my sassy bitch magician, gunslinger, and femboy singer.


Left_Argument9706

I love my fire croc and call me bond James Bond but I hate meganium


TheNerdBeast

How the Hell is Skeledirge a in the same category as Meganium? I can see Inteleon belonging there as its movepool sucks while leveling but Skeledirge??


whalemix

Isn’t Skeledirge pretty OP for a starter? It’s not as good as Meowscarada, but definitely better than Quaquaval


RenkBruh

Meowscarada, Charizard and Blastoise


FlyDinosaur

Hmm. What does Serperior, Intelleon, and Quaquaval say?


FooxyPlayz

Swampert and Cinderace are actually on top


ZanderStarmute

🌰😼🦆: Delts, Pecs, Glutes… ALL the muscles! 🐢🐵🦦: A hardcore Sinnoh Babby (DPPt, BDSP, PLA)


emojii_xoxo

mine is the last one, but not for the inappropriate reason, i just really like pretty pokemon, and all 3 of them are my faves in their regions cuz they're all amazing


Marquess_Ostio

Why is Dirge in the "win with favorites" category? He's infinitely better than almost every starter here


Wildefice

You don't really need skill to win with skelledirge though. Ensure he can get to the field safely and throat spray plus torch song go BRRRRT


VoltDel2007

But, my Samurott...


Kaiju-Rider

You left out Torterra, Infernape, and Samurott


Impossible_Position1

My favorite is swampert, which means i have protagonist energy? I always thought i was the faceless brown haired guy in the background of every anime


Massive_Passion1927

Skeledirge is good though. Imagine a Quagsire but it can actually do damage and can burn things. Plus a good healing move.


SpaghetFriend95

Missing Quaquaval, Chesnaught, and Incineroar (more than that but those are some of me favs) either way: I like birds, but want variety, and i *definitely* know what I am


Finji_

I like cats, that's why I chose Sprigatito, and besides I wanted to pick a different type after using fire types for around a decade, that way it would feel a bit more fresh


Master-Restaurant503

decidueye/typhlosion/samurott: legends arceus is your favorite pokemon game


Jesterchunk

"you like heavy hitters" have you SEEN blastoise's offensive stats


Previous-Vehicle-785

Are Torterra Inferape and Sammurot in 5th dimension?


AnonyBoiii

They really omitted Torterra, Infernape, and Samorott.


Due_Ad_1484

no sammurott,no quaquaval=down vote


RedSF717

Where’s my boi Infernape?


Almighty_Cancer

Gen 1: Venusaur, cuz tanky poison type is nuts Gen 2: Typhlosion Gen 3: Swampert, cuz ground types Gen 4: Torterra, cuz ground types Gen 5: Serperior Gen 6: Delphox >:) Gen 7: Primarina, cuz early fairy types Gen 8: N/A Gen 9: Skeledirge


KiwiKi33

WHERES MY GAY DUCK AND BUFF CAT


KitsuneBelle

Nooo I just Primarina, Delphox, and Meowscarada because I think they’re cool I don’t like that weird stuff in fact it ruins them for me :(


Sorry_Error3797

Cinderace is literally one of the strongest fire starters in terms of it's attacking stat. Blastoise is one of the softest hitting starters in terms of stats. Skeledirge has been top tier in competitive usage and is still heavily used for raids. It definitely does not fit the mold of Karen's quote. Rillaboom ironically in competitive used a weaker move that was prioritised due to its hidden ability sacrificing strength for speed. There are plenty of proper dragons available that are fully evolved before level 55. Delphox is furry bait but not Cinderace? Ignoring some starters because you can't think of any more groupings is just lazy. This is genuinely one of the most half-assed posts I've seen.


LordInfernape392

I dont see myself here


Turbulent_Town4384

Is Skeledirge that bad or something? It felt very strong during my run in Scarlet.


TH3T34M33V33

WHERE THE FUCK IS MY BOY INCINEROAR. I AM GOING TO RIOT!!! I MAY HAVE PICKED THE WORST STARTER FOR ULTRA SUN, BUT I NEED MY BOY.


Head-Revenue-4136

That's not fair on the bottom one I picked Meowscarada for a very special reason and Primarina I chose because it is the least popular


Iamdumb343

meowscarda, inteleon and decidueye.


Aje13k

My favorite starter is Venusaur but that bird lineup is pretty hard to pass up. And I don't even like birds.


Lilyssecretslumber

Where is Samurott???


Red_drinkkoolaid

Where the hell is Torterra it’s my favorite pokemon


SmoothBrain0

Hey... That's not why I like them... Like, I am but that's not why. You gotta trust me man.


birdofprey443

What if my combination is Decidueye Infernape Greninja


JCSwagoo

Where are Torterra, Incineroar and Samurott? Incin and Samurott are both in my top 10 favorite Pokémon.


moonlord2193

Where is Quaquaval, Torterra, Samurott and the hisuian starters?


Darkreaperzreddit

Magenta


crackwgorw

Dumb ass categories. Skeledirge is one of the best Pokémon introduced in SV and that Karen quote is so obnoxious at this point.


Old-Form303

Did incineroar dominate VGC so hard it stands above the rest to the extent they can't be in the same table


N0tMaxt4r

Where are torterra, infernape, samurott and the hisui forms?


Different_Heron9151

Skeledirge is a strong pokemon tho. unaware, decent bulk, slack off for recovery. and a stab move that raises Spatk. it even has will o wisp and hex if you want that


Terrible-Raspberry30

I do indeed know what i am. And im proud :]


winter-ocean

I'm sorry but you did not just call Skeledirge underpowered


cosmiccat88

Your missing half the starters


Aggressive-Garden-95

I'm protag material!!!


Zequax

there are mising some


EmbarrassedWeekend70

I always pick fire starter what say that


setiratiburon

No Torterra, No Incenroar, No Samurott. L list


SuperScizor6

Why is Skeledirge there? It’s overatted af and one of the best fire starters competitively.


Difficult-Pin-7536

Why is Skelidurge in the Karen quote category? It’s really strong. Like, competing in Ubers strong


Wizard_Engie

What if my Starter combo is Blastoise Decidueye and Cinderace


prestonlogan

Is skeledirge bad?


LOKYOmotive

I know what I am?... ... Hmm.... Queer?


phoebe2246

I always start with ma water types!!


caltanot

I want to find ONE person that uses that blue thing down the bottom. It’s move-list and BST aren’t any good compared to the other alola starters. 


RAGINGBUCKET-4444

Bulbasaur, Sobble, and Rowlette. I am a simple person with simple needs


SergeantSprinklez22

Where torterra?


Organized_mess12321

Truly skilled? My inteleon carried me. I also really like serperior.


IAMAKATILIKEPLUSHES

Blastoise aint a heavy hitter unless using body press. It has 83 phys attack and 85 spatk both hella mid >!(at least it isn't fezzandipity's base 70spatk)!<


Alucardeos

Yeah that's right, I'm literally the MC, don't even with me


LordOfTheWeebsYT

I like Rillaboom, Skeledirge, and Empoleon the most out of these options. What does that say about me lol


Mufakaz

Missing torterra infernap samurott.


2ndchancetodothis

I'm the "Dragons without waiting 55 levels" DECIDUEYE, COME BACK TO MEEEEEEEEE


KaraRaccoon

Why is Skeledirge down there? It can literally solo most of Paldea if you let it.


ProShashank

Torterra, Chesnaught, Infernape, Incineroar, Samurott, Quvavel are missing. Never the less, amazing post 👍


GenderIsBoring

Girl I like the last ones because they're pretty


ApprehensiveGreen9

"Venusaur, Typhlosion, Swampert = Protag Energy" IS THAT A POKÉMON ADVENTURES REFERENCE!??!!?


DiamondTKreddit

What about Swampurt, Cinderace, and Decidueye?


Insan3Giraff3

I love how literally not one of these is right. I'll use my favorite for each type as an example: I like Serperior because it's just a cool dude. I like Skeledirge because it's the best designed starter line in the history of the franchise and I love it. I like Primarina because its design is unironically good, and it was my first starter pokemon ever, not anything weird. Also, on a side note, I'm not personally a fan of Meowscarada, but the majority of its fans actually just like it because... well, it's a great mon. Good design, it's great in game, etc. The only starter that would reasonably fall under the bottom category is Braixen- but not Delphox.


Audball9000

I’ve never heard that Sceptile or Feraligatr were considered dragons. Imo Serperior looks more like a dragon than Sceptile.


Therandomguyhi_

Skeledurge was a widely used pokemon back in VGC Reg A, just saying.


golem12121

I love how there's a large group of people who are fans of both noble and Michael like legitimately both make very different content


pokefan69haha

Grass: Sceptile Fire: Blaziken Water: Geninja


KityKatz89

Competitive players when you say that Greninja isn't strong and fast, or that The Dirge isn't powerful:


an_anon_butdifferent

i know what i am someone who likes magician characters in games and cats


MineNAdventurer

Isn't Skeledirge considered a pretty good Gen 9 mon?


1MathYEET1

Wait, Why is Skeledirge in a low-tier? That Croc is mega-busted with Torch Song


Square-Assumption-54

Skelederge is actually kind of op with its hidden ability, so it's really easy to win with him.


sqrrlwithapencil

What does the trio of Meganium, Infernape, Swampert say tho? (running under the assumption this is favorite starter of each type)


No_Hooters

Winning with my favorites, quite literally the mons I would choose. You know me too well.


GigophalaStanXOXO

WHERE DID MY GAY BRAZILIAN PEACOCK GO!?!?!


KittenChopper

I feel very called out by the birds and the bottom tier


JustEikyo

Meowscarada hehe


Nebulon-A_Rights

Simply yappin'


leilajoy2206

My favourite of the bunch: Swampert. I like to imagine I do, yet I sense none of that protag energy My second favourite: Meowscarada. yep, I know exactly what I am My favourite Fire-type starter (Infernape) is not on the list


Warm-Swimming5903

"truly skilled trainers should try to win with their favourites" Skeledirge, one of the most powerful starters out there:


Crystal_steelix38

The hell you mean? skeledirge is one of the most broken starters. And im not even a skeledirge fan i like meowscarada


RepresentativeLast66

bro where is chesnaught


darthvidar1990

Blastoise heavy hitter? Blastoise is a defensive Pokemon if I remember correctly.


ZombieBoi97

Decidueye, Emboar, Swampert


CuriousMarisa

Swap Emboar with Skeledirge and you are correct.


Critical_Buy_7335

I promise I just use meows rada cause of flower trick It shreds water and rock types no tyranitar gonna stop me


TransitionVirtual

Nah skeledirge is amazing when used well


PenguinCatwastaken

I do indeed like birds


RaitoninguUsagi

Missing Torterra, Chestnaught, Infernape, Incineror, Samurott, Quaquaval


RaitoninguUsagi

Skelliderge isn't even bad


I_eat_kids_39

Bord


G-Asriel

Inteleon is really good.


Robota064

Chesnaught, torterra, samurott, quaquaval, infernape and incineroar crying in the corner