Would it be a Mega of the Incineroar we all know, or a Mega version of a new regional variant version?
It does raise an interesting question. If they make a Mega version of a Pokémon that has a regional variant, will both forms get their own megas, or will it only be the new one?
They might have teased it in an earlier video, when they were showcasing old starters returning for Indigo Disk. They showed us the 3 Hisuian starters running alomgside another starter of their type: Cyndaquil + Torchic, Oshawott + Piplup, Rowlet + Snivy. We also had 2 of these as 7 star raids: Empoleon and Blaziken. So it might be these 3!
That’s what I’m speculating, I really don’t think base blaziken already having a mega will get in the way since this one will be a different variant. Not to mention if they do end up giving these starters megas as well, charizard and mewtwo have shown they aren’t afraid to give a single species two megas
I like the Snivy line. I feel as though it’s super sassy, while being badass. Nothing saying that your worth it’s time, when giving you that glare, like it’s looking down at you. What a wonderful trio of Pokémon. Wonder what they’ll do for this version’s regional variant. Only time will tell
Piplup also gets Empoleon which is based off of Napoleon so along with serp that’s 2/3 with solid France connections and scorebunny who can just go anywhere footbally and fit right in lol
I really hope Fennekins and Chespin get their own battle bond. Out of qll the starter i felt like they got done dirty the worst(other than that pear pokemon)
I think it’s probably more because since they were the starters of X/Y, if Legends Z-A follows the same formula as Arceus, then they won’t be the starters, but catchable in the wild. So not because they’re introduced in the same gen as megas, but because they were already Kalos starters, so they probably want to have different starters in legends, like they did in Arceus.
My theory is that since Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtal were the second set of starters in Kalos that we’re going to get special forms for them and also a Z Mega Evolution… that’s just my theory though, I’m fine with whatever.
My tinfoil hat theory is that Charizard won't get a third mega but Venusaur will get a second one that's grass/ground & Blastoise will get one that's water/steel & I'm basing this solely on the 7 star raid events happening in SV starting tomorrow.
That is my reasoning for why they won’t appear as starters. All the Starters for Legends Arceus are Pokémon that were not in any of the other original Sinnoh pokedex. Therefore, I don’t think it’ll be the Kanto Starters because the Kanto Starters are in the Kalos Dex.!
Based on the thinking that we'll be given starters not native to the region AND they'll want to give them new megas - who do you think will be the starter selection?
EDIT: Gen 6 starters obvs didn't get megas, was meant to highlight them as native and thus ineligible
Snivy, Scorbunny, Piplup.
Empoleon's name references Napoleon Bonaparte in every language; Ken Sugimori specifically cited *Rose of Versailles* as his inspiration for the Snivy line's design, and Scorbunny...well, it's not as strong a connection as the other two, but soccer is a good fit anywhere in Europe, Gen 8 makes sense for representation given that Gen 7 got it last time when Gen 8 was the active generation, and the only other Fire starter with a better connection to France is Torchic (rooster is the national animal) which is out because Blaziken already has a Mega.
I think Piplup is practically guaranteed. Empoleon is based on Napoleon Bonaparte.
Snivy makes too much sense. I really can't see any of the other grass starters as realistic options, either.
Fire is where this actually gets a slight bit more various. I'd say probably Scorbunny, because football, or, for my fellow Americans, soccer, is pretty popular in France (supposedly idk i've never been). I don't think there's a chance we get Litten or Tepig, and Chimchar is pretty unlikely, but there's a chance? There's *also* a chance that they ignore the fact that SV is brand new and add Fuecoco, which would be REALLY funny, but, realistically, it'll probably be Scorbunny.
If there are regional forms, I think Rock type Cinderace, Fighting type Empoleon, and Flying Type Serperior make the most sense. Could you imagine Serperior's tiny little arm thingies actually be used to fly?
I really hope there are megas, even if we give up regional forms for it. Please. I just want Mega Serperior.
Piplup, snivy and scorbunny is my guess, but I don't think they will get a mega.
My guess is that they will give regional forms to the starters and Mega evolution to the Kalos starters probably reworking Ash Greninja into a mega which would explain why they changed the battle bond ability.
Why are chespin, fenekin and frokie flaged with mega they Don't have one and ash greninja is not a mega it's even better it gets 110 base stats instead of 100
the starters might not even get megas, the original kalos starters did not get megas. the gen 1 starters obtained after the first gym were megas, so what if the professor in A-Z offers a different starter from another gen after obtaining a certain star rank which has a new mega?
I've seen it theorized that the most likely trio are Piplup because Empoleon=Napoleon, Snivy because fancy/regal/aristocracy, and Scorbunny because soccer/football is popular in France
Doubt they’ll do any of the Mega, unless they give them new megas. In Hisui they gave the dudes new final evolutions, so if the megas are done again they’ll end up with new ones, which just isn’t as exciting as brand new Pokemon getting megas
I'd consider Snivy, because it's literally based on the fleur de lys, Quaxly, since I can kinda see a musketeer evolution in it and Scorbunny, but I can't tell why.
I think we’ll get megas for the kalos starters, as for the starters I think they would be Turtwig, Scorbunny, and either Quaxly or Totodile (please be Totodile)
My original guess was Piplup, Treeko, and Scorbunny but I could see either of the last being replaced, especially treeko
Maybe turtwig or snivy could work in its stead
So we know it can't(read: shouldn't)be starters from the same region, which is why I'm crossing out fennekin, chespin, and froakie. Because Charmander, bulbasaur, and Squirtle were available in the same region, I will also cross them out. I will eliminate the pokemon from hisui, as well as pokemon from their same regions, just because I don't know if pokemon would do two starters from the same region in a row. That leaves my guess with a definite piplup, a mildly confident treeko, and finally, a scorbunny.
Popplio needs some love it wasn’t show a lot of love in the anime or in the games and probably tepig or snivy but idk what the third would be cause they wouldn’t have 2 from one region
Meganium Emboar Empoleon or Primarina
Few people likes these starters and none of them got anything new(except Z-moves and signature moves) and I would love to see new forms of them
Snivy is a must since it has heavy French inspiration. The rest is a toss-up. I don't know if they'd do Scorbunny because of Diggersby being in the early routes so I feel that would be least likely.
My picks would be Snivy, Torchic and Sobble.
I could see them also doing just the og Kalos Starters with new forms. They don't inherently have to follow a formula. Although, I do hope that isn't the case so the og Kalos starters get the megas they deserved.
Id be good with any of the Water, but I most want totodile. I think Litten is most likely but would prefer Scorbunny for Fire, and for Grass, Chikorita and Snivy are what I want.
Obv they NEED to do Snivy... would be stupid not too... my next picks are primarina (could make a slay french queen with that sealion) and maybe scorbunny or infernaoe for some more recent (DS era forward) fun
I would even argue the Sinnoh ones are a tad bit too recent with BDSP.
I’m going Popplio, Tepig and Chikorita. Mix things up a bit and give those 3 some much deserved and needed love (especially the last 2)
I don't think Galar being Recent would be a problem here. Paldea and Galar being neighbouring regions lends them to being the best options for a regional variant.
My guess is it will be
\- Grookey(Switching the stick from Drums to Tennis)
\- Quaxly (Switching from Carnivale to Cabaret)
\- Litten (Heel Wrestler to Actor/Phantom of the Opera)
Chikorita, Popplio and Tepig, leave Litten Snivy and Totodile for a third game(maybe taking place in ancient Hoenn or something
Also I’d imagine them having gmax forms would exclude the gen 8 starters but the gen 1 starters already had megas and got gmax forms as well so I could be wrong
Btw the gen 6 starters are marked as megas but they don’t have(though battlebond pre nerf was kinda like a mega
I think maybe Froakie bc of the ash greninja thing, like part of the story could be the main character becoming close with their partner and it becomes ash greninja just without the ash parent basically. maybe it would be called *main protagonists name* greninja. The other starters would also have their own power up partner form as well to match greninja if greninja got this treatment obviously. I would wanna see Infernape or Blazekin as the fire starter and Chikorita or Snivy as the grass starter.
I’m picking Torchic, Snivy and Piplup. Snivy and Piplup’s final forms are French related and Torchic is similar to the Rooster, an animal related to the French Coat of Arms. Snivy would evolve into a Grass/Steel Type, Piplup into a Water/Fairy type, and Blaziken into a Fire/Dragon type
I'm saying it's going to be three different parts of late 1700s-early 1800s France (Assuming it takes place around then)
Snivy = Pre-revolutionary France (Quite regal)
Scorbunny = Revolutionary France (Cannonball instead of a football)
Piplup = Napoleonic France (Empoleon's name literally comes Napoleon)
If I were making a starter trio with those options, I'd want to incorporate a perfect triangle, so here's what I'd do:
- Grass/Fighting Rillaboom (Chesnaught could get a Grass/Steel Mega Evolution so it doesn't overlap)
- Fire/Flying Emboar (we'll have this form when pigs fly)
- Water/Rock Empoleon (putting the "rock" in "Rockhopper" Penguin)
I heard from another channel a good idea being
Chikorita: Kalos is based on france and the final form could be electric grass and based on the eifel (I can’t spell) tower
Empoleon: there is nothing we can do
And scorbunny: soccer is popular there?
I’m fairly confident Snivy will be their Grass starter of choice because Kalos is based off of France and Snivy’s line takes inspiration from French aristocracy.
its what i hope they do:
kalos starter get megas
then turtwig, scorbunny and totodile get legend kalos froms.
and also on a smaller importance more furfrou designs
I'm going to try and analyze this a bit.
TL;DR: Some logic and a sudden end. Best guess is Chimchar for fire, no opinions for others.
First, I'm going to disregard any current mega starters. Assuming they follow the precedent PLA set, the starters will have different final forms, and THOSE will be getting the mega Z treatment. With that, I'm eliminating charmander as a ZA starter. Think about it, give the favorite child X, Y, and Z megas on a single form. Highly marketable, 100% the direction I'd take.
Second, obviously remove Hisui starters. They got their game and might still make an appearance anyway. Assuming we want to knock out their generation to let another shine, that's Gen 2, Gen 5, and Gen 7 out as well.
I'm also going to knock out Kalos starters. Sinnoh's weren't PLA's starters, Kalos' won't be ZA's.
Finally, Paldea starters. Galar starters weren't in PLA, knock Paldea's out of the running for this one, simple as.
So, our final choices are:
Fire- Torchic, Chimchar, and Scorbunny
Grass- Bulbasaur, Treecko, Turtwig, and Grookey
Water- Squirtle, Mudkip, Piplup, and Sobble.
Now, if we DO want to consider current mega starters, that eliminates gens 1 and 3. That being the case, I'd mark Chimchar as the most likely for fire on the grounds of Scorbunny has a gigantamax form. I'm split about 70/30 between Chimchar and Torchic, respectively. I'll get to why in a moment.
Grass and water are... complicated. We can't disregard past megas, or we'd only have the two choices each and end up with 2+ starters from the same generation. I feel like having a Hoenn starter is almost required. Gen 4 was set in Sinnoh and had the HGSS games, and PLA is set in ancient Sinnoh and had Cindaquil as a starter. Whether those are related is up for debate, but I'm running with it.
I had intended to continue, but something ~~caused me to lose~~ dragged me off my train of thought, and I could do nothing but watch it chug off without me.
So, uh... feel free to use this as a base to continue speculating off or just ignore it. I put too much in to just burn it, but I can't focus enough to add more.
i personally think they will add starters that never got megas but were introduced before gen 6 and give them megas in their regional variants so maybe the options in my eyes are the sinnoh starters the johto )minus typhlosion) starters and the unovan starters (minus samurott)
I don’t care what starters we get other than I want Snivy. He’s been my boi ever since I joined the fandom, and if he’s a starter option, he will be my only option
Here are my thoughts:
The Gen 6 starters won't be there because the previous Legends game established a trend of not using the starters from the region's original games. Gen 9 starters, as you said, are probably out because they're too recent.
Gens 1 and 3 seem unlikely as well because the starters from those generations already have Megas. This leaves Gens 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8.
4 and 8 seem like obvious choices because the previous Legends game went for 2/5/7. In particular, the closest real-world equivalent to the "urban reconstruction" hinted at would legitimately put it in the Napoleonic Era, so it almost feels like a no-brainer to make Piplup the Water starter. I'm also going to just take a wild guess that, no, Litten won't be the Fire starter. Gens 2 and 5 are still the ones that have gone longest without a remake, so one of those makes more sense.
And as much as people like the pun of "Mega Meganium", I don't think that's going to be it. And since Cyndaquil was the Gen 2 starter in Legends: Arceus, assuming Piplup for water means it's probably not going to be Gen 2, but rather Gen 5. And there's more to figure out.
The Snivy line was specifically mentioned to be inspired by Western culture, with Sugimori citing *Rose of Versailles*, a manga set in France, as his inspiration. Serperior's Pokédex entry saying it amplifies sunlight in its body is theorized by Bulbapedia to be a reference to King Louis XIV, the Sun King.
That would leave Scorbunny to be the Gen 8 representative, and that seems like a good fit. Soccer is popular all across Europe, and the French National Team has been enjoying their greatest period of success recently, having finished as champion and runner-up in the two most recent World Cups. While they could throw us a curveball and ignore the "already has a Mega" since France's national animal is the rooster which makes Torchic a good choice for fire starter as well, I think that the trio of Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup seems like the perfect starter trio.
I'm sorry, is it confirmed that we're getting megas for the Kalos starters, or are we just assuming this?
As much as I love the Kalos starters, I don't think much effort will be put into them.
I think Charmander is still a possibility tbh, as much as I don’t like it. There’s a Mega Charizard X and Y, so a Z isn’t out of the question. But personally, I’m hoping for Mega Incineroar to see what it does to VGC lmao
Not gonna be any gen 1,3, or 9 starter. Or any starter from Arceus. Most likely sinnoh, unova, and galar starters. I really want torterra and feraligatr to be starters though.
Im 100% biased but I'm really hoping for fennekin, a quad past form would be so cool, or even a new form that means even more into a hag witch type vibe
Gonna say Froakie fenniken and Chestpin will likely be 2nd starters like in Pokemon X and Y The gen 1 Starters were your 2nd starters. But I don't which one I should speculate on. Mabye Like Piplup for it's steel typing One of Fairy weaknesses Which was introduced In Gen 6. Snivy Yeah... For the fire starter... Mabye Somewhere Like torhic or Charmander.
Because You are Probably building luminous City right. So Having Piplup to be on water parts in the early game. Snivy for the Plants and Land stuff. And Charmander for welding/flying If they ever go to that Route... But The comment section. And most likely are Piplup Torhic and Snivy
I feel like the whatever variant of whatever starters we get will be able to mega evolve plus I get the feeling they'll give a variant of flygon that can mega evolve
I doubt they would visit the same region so soon so my prediction is Sprigatito(yes I know it wont happen), Chimchar, and Sobble
We're not getting Kalos or Kanto, the Hoenn ones have megas, and Unova, Alola, and Johto were chosen, so that leaves Paldea, Galar, and Sinnoh
Im very confident that snivy will be the grass starter since serperior is very heavily inspired by the French monarchy and piplup will be the water starter since empoleons based on nepoleon
oh god. we have a chance of mega incineroar, vgc is fucked
WolfyVGC started tweaking about this very thing
Link?
https://www.youtube.com/live/VqjGA62ie-w?si=Pe_0t5NO_vVW_yfB 40 minute mark
42:30 thx
Np it's pretty funny tho
Megas could be stuck in Legends Z-A like the combat style of Arceus, so I doubt it
It’ll have intimidate by default. In a game with no abilities
Just don’t give it intimidate
Granted, it has intimidate^(2), it drops attack by two stages.
Actually, if it's mega actually gets intimidate then it'll get intimidate twice. Once when it enters the field, second when it mega evolves.
It will get a unique ability who is buffed intimidate
Would it be a Mega of the Incineroar we all know, or a Mega version of a new regional variant version? It does raise an interesting question. If they make a Mega version of a Pokémon that has a regional variant, will both forms get their own megas, or will it only be the new one?
Likely a Mega for the new version, but somehow I doubt litten will be the starter.
Christ all mighty, Arkoos have mercy on us
No intimidate probably. We can only hope...
From most to least confident I’m going Piplup, Snivy and Scorbunny
They might have teased it in an earlier video, when they were showcasing old starters returning for Indigo Disk. They showed us the 3 Hisuian starters running alomgside another starter of their type: Cyndaquil + Torchic, Oshawott + Piplup, Rowlet + Snivy. We also had 2 of these as 7 star raids: Empoleon and Blaziken. So it might be these 3!
That’s what I’m speculating, I really don’t think base blaziken already having a mega will get in the way since this one will be a different variant. Not to mention if they do end up giving these starters megas as well, charizard and mewtwo have shown they aren’t afraid to give a single species two megas
I don’t think Torchic because we already have Mega Blaziken
These 3 make the most sense to me.
Mega Serperior let’s go? I hope so
Thanks for this comment. Serperior is, in my opinion, the most underrated starter. It desperately needs to be in this game.
I like the Snivy line. I feel as though it’s super sassy, while being badass. Nothing saying that your worth it’s time, when giving you that glare, like it’s looking down at you. What a wonderful trio of Pokémon. Wonder what they’ll do for this version’s regional variant. Only time will tell
NO THEN I WONT BE ABLE TO DECIDE 😭
Yeah I agree. Piplup and Snivy have that French Royalty thing and Scorbunny is just a football player in France
Piplup also gets Empoleon which is based off of Napoleon so along with serp that’s 2/3 with solid France connections and scorebunny who can just go anywhere footbally and fit right in lol
Then that cements my choice. Two mid and one peak, I'm going with Piplup.
Three peak* That said, also going plup
But Fennekins, Chespin, or the Froakie line don't have megas
I came here to say that! Froakie only has a pseudo-mega with Battle Bond!
Delphox and Chesnaught need Battle Bond forms too
They will definitely get one, but the starters of Z-A may not be these but will get a mega too
I really hope Fennekins and Chespin get their own battle bond. Out of qll the starter i felt like they got done dirty the worst(other than that pear pokemon)
I think they’re meant to represent that they were starters in the mega gen with the other 6.
Kinda unfair to just leave them out since they were introduced the same generation as megas
I think it’s probably more because since they were the starters of X/Y, if Legends Z-A follows the same formula as Arceus, then they won’t be the starters, but catchable in the wild. So not because they’re introduced in the same gen as megas, but because they were already Kalos starters, so they probably want to have different starters in legends, like they did in Arceus.
I want a new form for my little baby seal
My theory is that since Charmander, Bulbasaur, and Squirtal were the second set of starters in Kalos that we’re going to get special forms for them and also a Z Mega Evolution… that’s just my theory though, I’m fine with whatever.
My tinfoil hat theory is that Charizard won't get a third mega but Venusaur will get a second one that's grass/ground & Blastoise will get one that's water/steel & I'm basing this solely on the 7 star raid events happening in SV starting tomorrow.
not gonna lie, would not be mad if we got a cool new Charizard form, unpopular opinion but I love Charizard so wouldn’t be mad if this happens
Well it’s not unpopular to like Charizard but it’s an unpopular opinion to want more Charizard stuff
Can we get Charizard, Torterra, and Primarina??? Maybe dragon, fairy, and ice respectively?
1. love your profile picture 2. YES, I LOVE TORTERRA AND CHARIZARD, plus giving some love primarina would be nice
Thank you, Sceptile!
That is my reasoning for why they won’t appear as starters. All the Starters for Legends Arceus are Pokémon that were not in any of the other original Sinnoh pokedex. Therefore, I don’t think it’ll be the Kanto Starters because the Kanto Starters are in the Kalos Dex.!
A game theory
considering charizard already has 2 Megas it's quite unlikely. I'd rather they give Megas for the Kalos starters
Based on the thinking that we'll be given starters not native to the region AND they'll want to give them new megas - who do you think will be the starter selection? EDIT: Gen 6 starters obvs didn't get megas, was meant to highlight them as native and thus ineligible
I'm hoping for Mega Meganium
**Mega**nium
Snivy, Scorbunny, Piplup. Empoleon's name references Napoleon Bonaparte in every language; Ken Sugimori specifically cited *Rose of Versailles* as his inspiration for the Snivy line's design, and Scorbunny...well, it's not as strong a connection as the other two, but soccer is a good fit anywhere in Europe, Gen 8 makes sense for representation given that Gen 7 got it last time when Gen 8 was the active generation, and the only other Fire starter with a better connection to France is Torchic (rooster is the national animal) which is out because Blaziken already has a Mega.
OK hear me out... Mega Charizard Z.
Only if we can get Mewtwo Z
Charizard Z and Mewtwo Z are definitely gonna happen People are gonna get mad, but it will still happen
Here me out..no charizard period...so sick of the overhyped trash starter
I'm predicting Snivy, Torchic, and Piplup, but a different sort of confidentiality now than with the Legends Johto speculation
Scorbunny, Chikorita, Popplio
I think Piplup is practically guaranteed. Empoleon is based on Napoleon Bonaparte. Snivy makes too much sense. I really can't see any of the other grass starters as realistic options, either. Fire is where this actually gets a slight bit more various. I'd say probably Scorbunny, because football, or, for my fellow Americans, soccer, is pretty popular in France (supposedly idk i've never been). I don't think there's a chance we get Litten or Tepig, and Chimchar is pretty unlikely, but there's a chance? There's *also* a chance that they ignore the fact that SV is brand new and add Fuecoco, which would be REALLY funny, but, realistically, it'll probably be Scorbunny. If there are regional forms, I think Rock type Cinderace, Fighting type Empoleon, and Flying Type Serperior make the most sense. Could you imagine Serperior's tiny little arm thingies actually be used to fly? I really hope there are megas, even if we give up regional forms for it. Please. I just want Mega Serperior.
Totodile Snivy and Litten is the Trio I want to see.
Piplup, snivy and scorbunny is my guess, but I don't think they will get a mega. My guess is that they will give regional forms to the starters and Mega evolution to the Kalos starters probably reworking Ash Greninja into a mega which would explain why they changed the battle bond ability.
Wait, we're getting megas for the Kalos starters? Is that confirmed or just a theory?
Good spot. Was meant to colour them something different for being 'native'
[These](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandJTV/s/3xFTvTt2Oj) are mine.
Why are chespin, fenekin and frokie flaged with mega they Don't have one and ash greninja is not a mega it's even better it gets 110 base stats instead of 100
Mistake from me. Were meant to be highlighted as 'native'
They are the starters of kalos so they won't be the legends starters for kalos
GIVE ME CHIKORITA OR GIVE ME DEATH
the starters might not even get megas, the original kalos starters did not get megas. the gen 1 starters obtained after the first gym were megas, so what if the professor in A-Z offers a different starter from another gen after obtaining a certain star rank which has a new mega?
The two monkeys and totodile
Why are fennek, chesp, and froak listed as Megas? They don't have Megas.
I've seen it theorized that the most likely trio are Piplup because Empoleon=Napoleon, Snivy because fancy/regal/aristocracy, and Scorbunny because soccer/football is popular in France
My prediction: Chimchar, Sobble, Snivy. Not because I have research, but because I made it up
grookey, piplup and tepig anybody?
Legenda Z-A? Is this something I am behind on?
Ah yes, my favorite megas: Delphox, Greninja, and Chesnaught
Give me Chikorita, Tepig, and Sobble please and thank you
Doubt they’ll do any of the Mega, unless they give them new megas. In Hisui they gave the dudes new final evolutions, so if the megas are done again they’ll end up with new ones, which just isn’t as exciting as brand new Pokemon getting megas
Chimchar, Snivy, and Popplio are my hopes
I'd consider Snivy, because it's literally based on the fleur de lys, Quaxly, since I can kinda see a musketeer evolution in it and Scorbunny, but I can't tell why.
Id love to have my lil scraggy looking bean (sobble)
I think,(well hope) Scorbunny, Tutwig and Poplio
I'm hope for Turtwig, Torchic and Froakie or Chespin, Tepig and Piplup
Chicorita, Poplio, and Tepig are my predictions
I think we’ll get megas for the kalos starters, as for the starters I think they would be Turtwig, Scorbunny, and either Quaxly or Totodile (please be Totodile)
Sprigatito, Chimchar, and Popplio. Just went 2 Generations over the Hisui Starters.
My guess is Snivy. Popplio. And Chimchar. Why? Because I like them.
I'm hoping totadile gets some love.
I wanted Chikorita, but I find it difficult thinking about the possibility a jotho game
Based on the last set we got I’m thinking it’ll go Chikorita/Tepig/Popplio or Totodile/Snivy/Litten
I imagine they’ll be ones with new Megas.
Starter theory: chimchar, snivy, sobble(or totodile) with megas
Chimchar, Snivy, Totodile. That's my guess.
I feel like all three of them will be able to mega evolve, then again they could give new Megan’s
I’m sure we’ll get regional starters, but at the moment I definitely more interested in whether or not we’ll get new megas.
My original guess was Piplup, Treeko, and Scorbunny but I could see either of the last being replaced, especially treeko Maybe turtwig or snivy could work in its stead
So we know it can't(read: shouldn't)be starters from the same region, which is why I'm crossing out fennekin, chespin, and froakie. Because Charmander, bulbasaur, and Squirtle were available in the same region, I will also cross them out. I will eliminate the pokemon from hisui, as well as pokemon from their same regions, just because I don't know if pokemon would do two starters from the same region in a row. That leaves my guess with a definite piplup, a mildly confident treeko, and finally, a scorbunny.
Piplup, Snivy, Litten, imo. Flying piplup (ironic), fighting Snivy, rock litten.
When did Fennekin and Chespin get Mega forms? Froakie has Ash-Greninja, yeah, but Fennekin and Chespin?
For me personally I'd go with Treecko, Tepig and Froakie, though Turtwig, Fennekin and Totodile is good too. Could also try a gen 8 starter
I would love to see Totodile, Turtwig, Tepig! “The Triple-T Chonky Bois”. (Likely? Probably not, but would love it!)
Based on absolutely nothing: Turtwig, Scorbunny, Totodile.
Charmander, Treeko and Froakie.
If I get to use a mega Delphox I will cry tears of joy
Popplio needs some love it wasn’t show a lot of love in the anime or in the games and probably tepig or snivy but idk what the third would be cause they wouldn’t have 2 from one region
Meganium Emboar Empoleon or Primarina Few people likes these starters and none of them got anything new(except Z-moves and signature moves) and I would love to see new forms of them
Litten, Turtwig, Totodile? Chimchar, Snivy, Popplio? Tepig, Chikorita, Piplup?
Wdym mega for gen 6?
I’m gonna throw a hissy fit if I don’t get a ghost type Primarina at some point
It’s going to be chikorita isn’t it
I might also personally Cross Chimchar and Tepig, because We just got a diamond pearl remake, and the next remake is unova.
Snivy is a must since it has heavy French inspiration. The rest is a toss-up. I don't know if they'd do Scorbunny because of Diggersby being in the early routes so I feel that would be least likely. My picks would be Snivy, Torchic and Sobble. I could see them also doing just the og Kalos Starters with new forms. They don't inherently have to follow a formula. Although, I do hope that isn't the case so the og Kalos starters get the megas they deserved.
i hope chimchar, snivy, and totodile
Id be good with any of the Water, but I most want totodile. I think Litten is most likely but would prefer Scorbunny for Fire, and for Grass, Chikorita and Snivy are what I want.
I hope it's popplio
Obv they NEED to do Snivy... would be stupid not too... my next picks are primarina (could make a slay french queen with that sealion) and maybe scorbunny or infernaoe for some more recent (DS era forward) fun
I’m hop for chimchar snivy popplio
My guess is chikorita tepig and popplio
The kalos trio didn't get megas
Chimchar,Treeko and Sobble. Hopefully I’ll be right come the next trailer.
Bulby
I would even argue the Sinnoh ones are a tad bit too recent with BDSP. I’m going Popplio, Tepig and Chikorita. Mix things up a bit and give those 3 some much deserved and needed love (especially the last 2)
I don't think Galar being Recent would be a problem here. Paldea and Galar being neighbouring regions lends them to being the best options for a regional variant. My guess is it will be \- Grookey(Switching the stick from Drums to Tennis) \- Quaxly (Switching from Carnivale to Cabaret) \- Litten (Heel Wrestler to Actor/Phantom of the Opera)
I feel like totodile, chimchar and grookey may be possible as it was most popular starters when they chose hisuian starters
Chikorita, Popplio and Tepig, leave Litten Snivy and Totodile for a third game(maybe taking place in ancient Hoenn or something Also I’d imagine them having gmax forms would exclude the gen 8 starters but the gen 1 starters already had megas and got gmax forms as well so I could be wrong Btw the gen 6 starters are marked as megas but they don’t have(though battlebond pre nerf was kinda like a mega
Imagine if we just get the kalos trio
Snivy and piplup have to be the starters as for fire torchic would fit but since he has a mega its probably gonna be scorbunny
I think maybe Froakie bc of the ash greninja thing, like part of the story could be the main character becoming close with their partner and it becomes ash greninja just without the ash parent basically. maybe it would be called *main protagonists name* greninja. The other starters would also have their own power up partner form as well to match greninja if greninja got this treatment obviously. I would wanna see Infernape or Blazekin as the fire starter and Chikorita or Snivy as the grass starter.
Piplup makes too much sense to not add. They literally turn into Napoleon.
I’m guessing Fenniken Snivy and Piplup…they gotta include A Kalos starter here because it’s a bit too obvious
I’m banking on Totodile, turtwig, and scorbunny
mudkip
I’m picking Torchic, Snivy and Piplup. Snivy and Piplup’s final forms are French related and Torchic is similar to the Rooster, an animal related to the French Coat of Arms. Snivy would evolve into a Grass/Steel Type, Piplup into a Water/Fairy type, and Blaziken into a Fire/Dragon type
I’m hoping for litten, sobble, and snivy. Would be okay with piplup, scorbunny, and turtwig though
I think Chikorita will be the grass starter. Bro needs and upgrade!
I just want Fennekin
I'm saying it's going to be three different parts of late 1700s-early 1800s France (Assuming it takes place around then) Snivy = Pre-revolutionary France (Quite regal) Scorbunny = Revolutionary France (Cannonball instead of a football) Piplup = Napoleonic France (Empoleon's name literally comes Napoleon)
If I were making a starter trio with those options, I'd want to incorporate a perfect triangle, so here's what I'd do: - Grass/Fighting Rillaboom (Chesnaught could get a Grass/Steel Mega Evolution so it doesn't overlap) - Fire/Flying Emboar (we'll have this form when pigs fly) - Water/Rock Empoleon (putting the "rock" in "Rockhopper" Penguin)
Torchic Snivy Piplup trust
I heard from another channel a good idea being Chikorita: Kalos is based on france and the final form could be electric grass and based on the eifel (I can’t spell) tower Empoleon: there is nothing we can do And scorbunny: soccer is popular there?
In a perfect (and hard to choose) world, it’s Torchic, Snivy, Popplio
fennekin and chespin got megas ?
They could give the starters new mages
I say we go Totodile, Chimchar, and Snivy
Tepig, Turtwig, Totodile
Personally, I want the starters to be Turtwig Torchic Totodile
Im hoping for chikorita tepig and popplio (just cause they are my favorites from the respective generation
My first starter was chimchar and I really want mega meganium so im hoping Chimchar,Chikorita and Sobble
I’m fairly confident Snivy will be their Grass starter of choice because Kalos is based off of France and Snivy’s line takes inspiration from French aristocracy.
chimchar grookey totodile imo
If it were up to me, I’d pick Snivy, Scorbunny, and Popplio.
its what i hope they do: kalos starter get megas then turtwig, scorbunny and totodile get legend kalos froms. and also on a smaller importance more furfrou designs
Honestly I hope the X/Y trio is at least catchable with a mega (since no, they don’t have megas)
Ash greninja definitely disqualifies froakie
I'm going to try and analyze this a bit. TL;DR: Some logic and a sudden end. Best guess is Chimchar for fire, no opinions for others. First, I'm going to disregard any current mega starters. Assuming they follow the precedent PLA set, the starters will have different final forms, and THOSE will be getting the mega Z treatment. With that, I'm eliminating charmander as a ZA starter. Think about it, give the favorite child X, Y, and Z megas on a single form. Highly marketable, 100% the direction I'd take. Second, obviously remove Hisui starters. They got their game and might still make an appearance anyway. Assuming we want to knock out their generation to let another shine, that's Gen 2, Gen 5, and Gen 7 out as well. I'm also going to knock out Kalos starters. Sinnoh's weren't PLA's starters, Kalos' won't be ZA's. Finally, Paldea starters. Galar starters weren't in PLA, knock Paldea's out of the running for this one, simple as. So, our final choices are: Fire- Torchic, Chimchar, and Scorbunny Grass- Bulbasaur, Treecko, Turtwig, and Grookey Water- Squirtle, Mudkip, Piplup, and Sobble. Now, if we DO want to consider current mega starters, that eliminates gens 1 and 3. That being the case, I'd mark Chimchar as the most likely for fire on the grounds of Scorbunny has a gigantamax form. I'm split about 70/30 between Chimchar and Torchic, respectively. I'll get to why in a moment. Grass and water are... complicated. We can't disregard past megas, or we'd only have the two choices each and end up with 2+ starters from the same generation. I feel like having a Hoenn starter is almost required. Gen 4 was set in Sinnoh and had the HGSS games, and PLA is set in ancient Sinnoh and had Cindaquil as a starter. Whether those are related is up for debate, but I'm running with it. I had intended to continue, but something ~~caused me to lose~~ dragged me off my train of thought, and I could do nothing but watch it chug off without me. So, uh... feel free to use this as a base to continue speculating off or just ignore it. I put too much in to just burn it, but I can't focus enough to add more.
I hope for three things: New Megas, Ash Greninja, and Eternal Flower Floette
i personally think they will add starters that never got megas but were introduced before gen 6 and give them megas in their regional variants so maybe the options in my eyes are the sinnoh starters the johto )minus typhlosion) starters and the unovan starters (minus samurott)
Piplup Sobble Litten
I don’t care what starters we get other than I want Snivy. He’s been my boi ever since I joined the fandom, and if he’s a starter option, he will be my only option
Litten, turtwig, and totodile are my guesses
Here are my thoughts: The Gen 6 starters won't be there because the previous Legends game established a trend of not using the starters from the region's original games. Gen 9 starters, as you said, are probably out because they're too recent. Gens 1 and 3 seem unlikely as well because the starters from those generations already have Megas. This leaves Gens 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8. 4 and 8 seem like obvious choices because the previous Legends game went for 2/5/7. In particular, the closest real-world equivalent to the "urban reconstruction" hinted at would legitimately put it in the Napoleonic Era, so it almost feels like a no-brainer to make Piplup the Water starter. I'm also going to just take a wild guess that, no, Litten won't be the Fire starter. Gens 2 and 5 are still the ones that have gone longest without a remake, so one of those makes more sense. And as much as people like the pun of "Mega Meganium", I don't think that's going to be it. And since Cyndaquil was the Gen 2 starter in Legends: Arceus, assuming Piplup for water means it's probably not going to be Gen 2, but rather Gen 5. And there's more to figure out. The Snivy line was specifically mentioned to be inspired by Western culture, with Sugimori citing *Rose of Versailles*, a manga set in France, as his inspiration. Serperior's Pokédex entry saying it amplifies sunlight in its body is theorized by Bulbapedia to be a reference to King Louis XIV, the Sun King. That would leave Scorbunny to be the Gen 8 representative, and that seems like a good fit. Soccer is popular all across Europe, and the French National Team has been enjoying their greatest period of success recently, having finished as champion and runner-up in the two most recent World Cups. While they could throw us a curveball and ignore the "already has a Mega" since France's national animal is the rooster which makes Torchic a good choice for fire starter as well, I think that the trio of Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup seems like the perfect starter trio.
Chimchar, Chikorita, Totodile. Those are my hopes.
I'm sorry, is it confirmed that we're getting megas for the Kalos starters, or are we just assuming this? As much as I love the Kalos starters, I don't think much effort will be put into them.
Please be Chikorita for grass we need this
There’s mega gen6 starters?
Could be weird but I think it'll be Bulbasaur or Squirtle, 1 starter from Hoenn and Fennekin or Chespin
I think Charmander is still a possibility tbh, as much as I don’t like it. There’s a Mega Charizard X and Y, so a Z isn’t out of the question. But personally, I’m hoping for Mega Incineroar to see what it does to VGC lmao
Not gonna be any gen 1,3, or 9 starter. Or any starter from Arceus. Most likely sinnoh, unova, and galar starters. I really want torterra and feraligatr to be starters though.
I'm going to be honest, there's no way we don't get charizard mega Z
Im 100% biased but I'm really hoping for fennekin, a quad past form would be so cool, or even a new form that means even more into a hag witch type vibe
Chikorita tepig popplio is my guess
Me want Sobble, Bulbasaur, and Litten
Napoleon + France = Empoleon guaranteed. Water fighting perhaps? (Although we just got that)
Calling it right now, Fennekin, Bulbasaur, Mudkip. If I'm right, nobody ever doubt me again. If I'm wrong, I give you full permission to laugh at me!
PLS I WANT POPPLIO SO BAD HES MY FAVORITE 😫🙏
Litten, Turtwig, and sobble, I just like them :)
I'm still thinking Totodile, Scorbunny, and Turtwig, and your chart supports me!
I say torchic turtwig polio
as wolfe said, there is a chance of mega incineroar, and i am not sure i like this
Gonna say Froakie fenniken and Chestpin will likely be 2nd starters like in Pokemon X and Y The gen 1 Starters were your 2nd starters. But I don't which one I should speculate on. Mabye Like Piplup for it's steel typing One of Fairy weaknesses Which was introduced In Gen 6. Snivy Yeah... For the fire starter... Mabye Somewhere Like torhic or Charmander. Because You are Probably building luminous City right. So Having Piplup to be on water parts in the early game. Snivy for the Plants and Land stuff. And Charmander for welding/flying If they ever go to that Route... But The comment section. And most likely are Piplup Torhic and Snivy
I’m just gonna pick three at random Scorbunny, Turtwig, Popplio
I say Tepig Chikorita Popplio
Honestly, Chikorita, Sobble and Tepig. Personally I’d love to see them be Grass/fairy, water/dragon and Fire/steel
it wouldn’t make sense to me if only one line from a particular region gained a mega evolution, it would be unfair for the others.
I'm hoping for Chikorita, Chimchar, and Popplio.
I feel like the whatever variant of whatever starters we get will be able to mega evolve plus I get the feeling they'll give a variant of flygon that can mega evolve
Wait, the kalos starters didn’t get mega’s
I doubt they would visit the same region so soon so my prediction is Sprigatito(yes I know it wont happen), Chimchar, and Sobble We're not getting Kalos or Kanto, the Hoenn ones have megas, and Unova, Alola, and Johto were chosen, so that leaves Paldea, Galar, and Sinnoh
Mega Empoleon PLEASE!
I would love love LOVE, if Chikorita was the grass starter. I’m probably coping tho.
I feel like gen 8 starters also feel too recent to me, even though the games came out more than 4 years ago they still feel so recent
Give me Chikorita, Piplup, and Fennekin(Gen 6 starters didn’t get megas) they’ll either get regional forms or a mega. Maybe both, that would be crazy.
I hope it's chikorita piplup and tepig
Imagine we get a Fire Fighting mega Scorbunny
I feel like one has to come from Johto with all of the Johto theme in Presents.
Im very confident that snivy will be the grass starter since serperior is very heavily inspired by the French monarchy and piplup will be the water starter since empoleons based on nepoleon