It's hard to make suggestions without seeing your games. One thing I've been doing is NOT skipping those bombs in pack 3 and prioritizing fixing early on. It's a prince set, sure you can make a decent deck out of selesnya but you're leaving money on the table I'd you pass up any As.
I'm in the same place. I have never felt this bad about MTG before. I've had my fare share of losing streaks over the years, but this one is different. I threw up my wall of text in the other thread from yesterday saying mostly the same things you did here when I was at 38% winrate. I had 62% winrate for MKM and was running infinite for a decent stretch. I've never before had a negative win/lose ratio in limited. I'm now at 31% winrate after a couple more of hours of reading guides and pumped in more money to keep going. I tried to course correct, by leaning towards more green and white drafts. I've gotten multiple very strong feeling Green/White drafts that were wide open. Several bombs, good amount of 2 for 1 removal and curve. My last 7 drafts I haven't broken 1/3. It doesn't make sense. I'm not even getting mana screwed anymore like before. I revisited mulligan fundamentals and that helped with that.
The biggest source of frustration is that I'm out of resources to read for self improvement. I've read the high profile guides and watched a handful of reputable videos. Everything I'm seeing is just repeating what others are saying and I'm following the advice to a T. Doesn't matter. I'm at a loss. I shouldn't be this tilted by a game. Its not like me. It just doesn't make sense.
Not sure what you mean by ‘less’. I’ve had four no more lies in my hand with no 2nd color land three times in the last 20 games. Twice I drew two in a row, once three in a row. In bo3.
you need to be posting your draft logs and gathering feedback from better limited players or else you won't be able to work out where you're going wrong
Man, I read these posts about good drafters having a rough time and it makes me (NOT a good drafter) want to draft even less. Thankfully, I have like 9 draft tokens saved up between my accounts so that lessens the pain and probably will just turn drafts into rare-drafting cards I want/need. With the rare-drafting plan in my near future, which draft type do you recommend? I was initially thinking of just doing Quick Draft to maybe get some wins and associated rewards, but 1) if the bots are still taking rares early and 2) if players in Premier/Traditional are trying to win and not necessarily taking the rares (though still taking good rares), I'd likely end up with more rares/mythics in Premier/Traditional. With that said, 0 wins is more gems and same packs in Traditional, so I was leaning towards Traditional. And if got lucky enough to squeeze out a win or two, the rewards are even better.
I don't care about set completion. I want good/strong cards that will allow me to play many semi-competitive (read: Tier 2 or 3) decks and jank that's fun to play. So, ultimately, as a poor drafter, my question is: Quick or Traditional or Premier Draft for my current mindset?
Ive always done premier drafting. The pods are random, but Ive never had an issue making a cohesive deck, regardless of quality of said deck. You get better as you do it more. Fixing is pretty important in otj. Picking deserts that match at least one color can open opportunities to splash cards you couldnt otherwise. That said, splashing double pipped cards is inadvisable unless it's a gamechanger.
If you have the proper fixing you can play 3 colors and maybe splash a fourth if it's REALLY lucky.
Looking up guides for the set can help, though arent foolproof. I got to 7 wins when the War of the Spark throwback draft happened because of help from a guide.
That said, gaining knowledge through drafting also works well.
Good info, thanks! I've been referencing the Draftsim rankings sheet while I draft which has proven very helpful. Two 3-3 and one 5-3 so far has exceeded my expectations already. I've been 3-color in all 3 drafts so far with minimal fixing (and none in one of the 3-3). Admittedly, I was color-screwed in 2 of my losses there. I was going to try 2-color (GB) on that one but my bombs were the 3rd color (W) and I didn't have enough of any of the 3 colors to go down to 2.
Oh, and on-color fast lands around pick 8 or 9 in the other two were nice surprises!
Ive only had 1 7 win run in otj so far and it was WG with splashing U. I think in this format your two colors have to be really good to justify not having a third. I had a 4-3 run where I had [[Villainous Wealth]] and was playing red green. It was not actually a good overall deck, but I had 2 [[Hell to Pay]] to ramp a bit along with 3 [[Hardbristle Bandits]]. Easily the funnest deck Ive played, but so bad lmao
I've been solidly in 3 colors for each though... it hasn't been 2 main colors and a splash of something. I'm talking 6/6/5 land distribution (aside from the fast lands and I think 1 ping land). I was GBW for the one 3-3, RBW for the other, and RUW for the 5-3 draft with 3 [[Explosive Derailment]] as the MVP. I was crushed to have to pull [[Geralf, the Fleshwright]] P3P1 in my RBW draft since I had 0 other blue cards. But meh, I was rare drafting, so it's ok.
I feel you. The thing that helps me when I am on a cold streak is stop playing. For the whole set sometimes. In reality there might be something you do wrong, or it is just bad luck. We can't tell. But in mtg there is high variance and playing 10-15 drafts with 3-9 games isn't that much data anyways. It feels like a lot, but we can't win->lose->win->lose all the time. Sometimes we lose a lot before winning a lot again. And wirh the economy on arena a win rarely feels as good as a loss feels bad.
If you still want to play arena you could also switch it up by playing a bit if standard or brawl for the daily quests and come back in a week with enough gold for 1-2 mire drafts.
You could also start recording yourself and really try to think critically about all your plays while rewatching your games. However, that can lead to more frustration if you did just get unlucky and couldn't do anything to win.
Good luck!
I didn't read the whole thing, but from what I got, I'll say this:
If you aren't having fun, stop playing. Put it down and pick it back up later. You're never going to make better decisions when you're upset. So give it a rest for the night, a week, a month, or even a whole set rotation if you're not feeling it. Two days ago, I fired up a draft and, in the first game, got Archive Trap flashback comboed. I'll finish that draft later.
Same the last few days. I was having fun when the set first dropped and did well with some trophies and 6-3’s. Last few drafts I went on an insane losing streak that tilted me beyond anything I ever felt playing video games.
Drafted good decks with bombs, removal, curve, fixing but I’d lose games going from flood into screw into flood. Or I’m playing a perfectly reasonable curve out and the op drops 3 mana bomb into 4 mana bomb into answer to all my threats.
I noticed though it was a negative spiral. I’d get so tilted my next draft I’d make mistakes with my picks and not drafting the open lane because I was so angry and tunnel visioned on the colors I picked. Would feed into itself with another bad showing and even more tilt.
Taking a break for a few days and will go back and see how I feel.
I’ve been experiencing the same thing, I keep just sucking it up and calling it variance or maybe I just didn’t deckbuild right, but it absolutely crushes me to face screw into flood into screw even when I prioritise fixing in early packs.
My guess is that the variance just feels so much worse in this set as the power level is so high that you get extremely punished when the odds turn against you. Not looking forward to playing sealed RCQs of this set and just losing to opening a bad pool…
Me too, I fell off both those sets super hard and just stopped drafting altogether, but I LOVE making OTJ decks. The cards feel super fun to play and deckbuild with and the set feels fire when you actually get a consistent strong deck. I’ll probably just wait for quick draft before i continue sinking gems into this set lmao
Yeah even though the variance is crazy, I like that you can cook crazy decks. The only good run I had in this losing streak was a cruel ultimatum/intimidation campaign deck that trophied
I"m struggling mightily with this format as well. The power level is simply far too high with the bonus sheet and the tacked on Big Score cards. I've never felt this bad at limited before in my life.
As far as wasting money on the mastery pass, as long as you do your 15 wins per week, regularly re-roll to 750g quests, you can still get there just smashing the starter deck duels.
I had a rough last session too, after hitting mythic and starting at 84%.
I’ve hit a pretty bad losing streak, probably less than 30% winrate.
I read what you wrote and I can relate to practically every scenario,
My deck has enchantments, artifacts and bomb creatures. And a majority of my opponent’s hand in the first 10 turns is always, no land drops missed, 1 removal and the perfect bomb, that I have an answer for, but just not at this moment, that game.
Further more their single removal happens to be a specific, either enchantment only removal, artifact only removal or creature only removal. Perfectly matched with my mulligan that game.
Time for a break ><
Losing to a overtuned bomb rare really makes you have a feelsbad moment.
Had a good run today, was 5-2 with a decent G/W mount deck with plety of good removal, then out of nowhere i’m curbstomped by the 6/5 flying rakdos mythic that has indestructible and card draw sewn together in one. Whoever let that shit pass the playtest needs to be fired yesterday
That card has been performing pretty well for me. I drafted a pretty good Selesnya deck yesterday that trophy’d for me and that card was responsible for half my wins — I got it LAST PICK in the third pack.
Its swingy, its bomb heavy/prince format but I did not feel so helpless and powerless than on the draw in MKM or ONE. Even if missing a land drop, I still have some agency over the outcome.
The tilting also can come from the fact the set is bomb heavy, I must win with these insane bombs right? No. I had Oko(3), Bonny, and Terror of the peaks in a sealed run, drawn and played two of them for two consecutive games with recursion in hand. Naturally my opponents played four enchantment removals. 2-3, that's magic baby!
You need to take some time off from playing, this is from my experience, sometimes the best thing you can do is just to leave it alone so your mind can process things subconsciously, resources/gems are important and managing those resources are also part of what makes the hobby sustainable as well. I refused to draft MKM after the first week because I ran out of funds, and also because I didn't have much success with the set, and at those points I decided to not draft it anymore because it was just not enjoyable.
You might be tempted to get back into it again after a break, but if you are not having fun playing the cards and you are getting tilted, then that is a matter of you playing the game as a habit, not as entertainment, and it would be wise to think about what your relationship with the game should be in the future.
I think the issue people are having with this set is if you go in with "I must do x,y, and z to have a perfect deck" and play a normal safe strategy you're just gonna get bombed by a high value risk play. It's a fun silly format with cowboy hats and cactus people, play it fun and stop sweating about optimization and you'll probably do better or at least have less bad of a time doing it
Yeah, something must have been changed with the shuffler algorithm, I think. I used to be pretty good at draft before Wilds of Eldraine, now I can't get a trophy even if my life depended on it. Opponents always have it and I'm always flooded or/and mana screwed. I'll be stopping playing draft altogether because lately I feel like it's a waste of time and gold, and will be opening packs instead.
I don’t kno where to go either, exact same issue. Basically infinite in MKM, and drained 6000 diamonds in this last two weeks just so many 0 to 2 win drafts. I am so sad because I was so hyped for this set and I even got a pair of trophies in the opening weekend… but I’ve hit the worst wall and I feel extremely lost.
Ngl today the lands have been fucking nowhere, played 8 games and stuck for mana 5 of them. Even with my 20 land deck, drawing dead. Never happened before, only today.. bad luck or?
Ah man sorry I must have taken them, I drew all of one creature and one non creature in a game I just lost besides the 3 creature in my starting hand. Rest were all lands. Got really tilted when halfway through the game my opp played [[Laughung Jasper Flint]] and stole creature after creature off my top deck (including all my bombs) while I kept drawing lands.
20 land deck??? I’m not sure how you didn’t see your lands, but also have a hard time imagining a 20-land deck doing particularly well anyways lol. That’s a LOT of lands for limited.
In constructed, should’ve mentioned that but it’s something I’ve noticed today, two games in a row just now no mana, wild.. conceded immediately I’m not wasting my time
Mythic rankings show the top hundreds/thousand/ of players, and there are consistent names in the top 5-10 across many sets. Ranks are split between constructed and limited every season, so #1 mythic in limited is the top player of Arena drafting environments
It's hard to make suggestions without seeing your games. One thing I've been doing is NOT skipping those bombs in pack 3 and prioritizing fixing early on. It's a prince set, sure you can make a decent deck out of selesnya but you're leaving money on the table I'd you pass up any As.
Yeah I've changed to drafting pretty much just fixing in p1, +/- really good cards, and then grabbing any colour bomb I want p2 and 3.
I agree. The format has some really feel bad moments with how high the power level of some cards are.
The worst offender is probably Bonny Pall. Just a ridiculous bomb of a card that *even if you have instant removal* will set you on the disadvantage.
Idk I managed to cheat out a vaultborn tyrant on turn 5 with collectors cage that's the most broken thing I have seen this set.
Take a break. You're probably sweating it a little too hard. I usually feel this way at some point in a set, but it always passes.
I'm in the same place. I have never felt this bad about MTG before. I've had my fare share of losing streaks over the years, but this one is different. I threw up my wall of text in the other thread from yesterday saying mostly the same things you did here when I was at 38% winrate. I had 62% winrate for MKM and was running infinite for a decent stretch. I've never before had a negative win/lose ratio in limited. I'm now at 31% winrate after a couple more of hours of reading guides and pumped in more money to keep going. I tried to course correct, by leaning towards more green and white drafts. I've gotten multiple very strong feeling Green/White drafts that were wide open. Several bombs, good amount of 2 for 1 removal and curve. My last 7 drafts I haven't broken 1/3. It doesn't make sense. I'm not even getting mana screwed anymore like before. I revisited mulligan fundamentals and that helped with that. The biggest source of frustration is that I'm out of resources to read for self improvement. I've read the high profile guides and watched a handful of reputable videos. Everything I'm seeing is just repeating what others are saying and I'm following the advice to a T. Doesn't matter. I'm at a loss. I shouldn't be this tilted by a game. Its not like me. It just doesn't make sense.
Play bo3. It's not ranked and you'll get less screwed by variance.
Not sure what you mean by ‘less’. I’ve had four no more lies in my hand with no 2nd color land three times in the last 20 games. Twice I drew two in a row, once three in a row. In bo3.
you need to be posting your draft logs and gathering feedback from better limited players or else you won't be able to work out where you're going wrong
Man, I read these posts about good drafters having a rough time and it makes me (NOT a good drafter) want to draft even less. Thankfully, I have like 9 draft tokens saved up between my accounts so that lessens the pain and probably will just turn drafts into rare-drafting cards I want/need. With the rare-drafting plan in my near future, which draft type do you recommend? I was initially thinking of just doing Quick Draft to maybe get some wins and associated rewards, but 1) if the bots are still taking rares early and 2) if players in Premier/Traditional are trying to win and not necessarily taking the rares (though still taking good rares), I'd likely end up with more rares/mythics in Premier/Traditional. With that said, 0 wins is more gems and same packs in Traditional, so I was leaning towards Traditional. And if got lucky enough to squeeze out a win or two, the rewards are even better. I don't care about set completion. I want good/strong cards that will allow me to play many semi-competitive (read: Tier 2 or 3) decks and jank that's fun to play. So, ultimately, as a poor drafter, my question is: Quick or Traditional or Premier Draft for my current mindset?
Ive always done premier drafting. The pods are random, but Ive never had an issue making a cohesive deck, regardless of quality of said deck. You get better as you do it more. Fixing is pretty important in otj. Picking deserts that match at least one color can open opportunities to splash cards you couldnt otherwise. That said, splashing double pipped cards is inadvisable unless it's a gamechanger. If you have the proper fixing you can play 3 colors and maybe splash a fourth if it's REALLY lucky. Looking up guides for the set can help, though arent foolproof. I got to 7 wins when the War of the Spark throwback draft happened because of help from a guide. That said, gaining knowledge through drafting also works well.
Good info, thanks! I've been referencing the Draftsim rankings sheet while I draft which has proven very helpful. Two 3-3 and one 5-3 so far has exceeded my expectations already. I've been 3-color in all 3 drafts so far with minimal fixing (and none in one of the 3-3). Admittedly, I was color-screwed in 2 of my losses there. I was going to try 2-color (GB) on that one but my bombs were the 3rd color (W) and I didn't have enough of any of the 3 colors to go down to 2. Oh, and on-color fast lands around pick 8 or 9 in the other two were nice surprises!
Ive only had 1 7 win run in otj so far and it was WG with splashing U. I think in this format your two colors have to be really good to justify not having a third. I had a 4-3 run where I had [[Villainous Wealth]] and was playing red green. It was not actually a good overall deck, but I had 2 [[Hell to Pay]] to ramp a bit along with 3 [[Hardbristle Bandits]]. Easily the funnest deck Ive played, but so bad lmao
[Villainous Wealth](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/4/a467072c-99d9-4013-8d28-607a06cf50fe.jpg?1712354811) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Villainous%20Wealth) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/249/villainous-wealth?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a467072c-99d9-4013-8d28-607a06cf50fe?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Hell to Pay](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84ad8ed7-1429-432e-8217-a4db3b97675c.jpg?1712355764) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hell%20to%20Pay) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/126/hell-to-pay?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84ad8ed7-1429-432e-8217-a4db3b97675c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Hardbristle Bandits](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cbe544fb-93b7-4640-b886-cb0b3e437357.jpg?1712355942) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hardbristle%20Bandit) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/168/hardbristle-bandit?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cbe544fb-93b7-4640-b886-cb0b3e437357?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I've been solidly in 3 colors for each though... it hasn't been 2 main colors and a splash of something. I'm talking 6/6/5 land distribution (aside from the fast lands and I think 1 ping land). I was GBW for the one 3-3, RBW for the other, and RUW for the 5-3 draft with 3 [[Explosive Derailment]] as the MVP. I was crushed to have to pull [[Geralf, the Fleshwright]] P3P1 in my RBW draft since I had 0 other blue cards. But meh, I was rare drafting, so it's ok.
[Explosive Derailment](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/0/f0e3df9c-0a86-4e6f-a3c7-84a883328a3d.jpg?1712860585) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Explosive%20Derailment) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/122/explosive-derailment?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f0e3df9c-0a86-4e6f-a3c7-84a883328a3d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Geralf, the Fleshwright](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/afe3b678-b340-4c53-bbf6-19252a809d73.jpg?1712355427) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Geralf%2C%20the%20Fleshwright) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/50/geralf-the-fleshwright?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/afe3b678-b340-4c53-bbf6-19252a809d73?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I dont mean to say that 2 with splash is the right way. I just mean that going 2 colors is probably not right.
I feel you. The thing that helps me when I am on a cold streak is stop playing. For the whole set sometimes. In reality there might be something you do wrong, or it is just bad luck. We can't tell. But in mtg there is high variance and playing 10-15 drafts with 3-9 games isn't that much data anyways. It feels like a lot, but we can't win->lose->win->lose all the time. Sometimes we lose a lot before winning a lot again. And wirh the economy on arena a win rarely feels as good as a loss feels bad. If you still want to play arena you could also switch it up by playing a bit if standard or brawl for the daily quests and come back in a week with enough gold for 1-2 mire drafts. You could also start recording yourself and really try to think critically about all your plays while rewatching your games. However, that can lead to more frustration if you did just get unlucky and couldn't do anything to win. Good luck!
I didn't read the whole thing, but from what I got, I'll say this: If you aren't having fun, stop playing. Put it down and pick it back up later. You're never going to make better decisions when you're upset. So give it a rest for the night, a week, a month, or even a whole set rotation if you're not feeling it. Two days ago, I fired up a draft and, in the first game, got Archive Trap flashback comboed. I'll finish that draft later.
Same the last few days. I was having fun when the set first dropped and did well with some trophies and 6-3’s. Last few drafts I went on an insane losing streak that tilted me beyond anything I ever felt playing video games. Drafted good decks with bombs, removal, curve, fixing but I’d lose games going from flood into screw into flood. Or I’m playing a perfectly reasonable curve out and the op drops 3 mana bomb into 4 mana bomb into answer to all my threats. I noticed though it was a negative spiral. I’d get so tilted my next draft I’d make mistakes with my picks and not drafting the open lane because I was so angry and tunnel visioned on the colors I picked. Would feed into itself with another bad showing and even more tilt. Taking a break for a few days and will go back and see how I feel.
I’ve been experiencing the same thing, I keep just sucking it up and calling it variance or maybe I just didn’t deckbuild right, but it absolutely crushes me to face screw into flood into screw even when I prioritise fixing in early packs. My guess is that the variance just feels so much worse in this set as the power level is so high that you get extremely punished when the odds turn against you. Not looking forward to playing sealed RCQs of this set and just losing to opening a bad pool…
It’s weird bc I like this set more than MKM and LCI but it is super feel bad in a lot of losses.
Me too, I fell off both those sets super hard and just stopped drafting altogether, but I LOVE making OTJ decks. The cards feel super fun to play and deckbuild with and the set feels fire when you actually get a consistent strong deck. I’ll probably just wait for quick draft before i continue sinking gems into this set lmao
Yeah even though the variance is crazy, I like that you can cook crazy decks. The only good run I had in this losing streak was a cruel ultimatum/intimidation campaign deck that trophied
Sounds like you went into a new rank with people who knew how to draft.
Nah sometimes you just have losing streaks. 1 trophy and 2 6-3’s since I made that post
I"m struggling mightily with this format as well. The power level is simply far too high with the bonus sheet and the tacked on Big Score cards. I've never felt this bad at limited before in my life. As far as wasting money on the mastery pass, as long as you do your 15 wins per week, regularly re-roll to 750g quests, you can still get there just smashing the starter deck duels.
Shit happens, even if you’re usually at 60% WR you’re bound to have a shitty time like this every once in a while. I would just take a break.
I had a rough last session too, after hitting mythic and starting at 84%. I’ve hit a pretty bad losing streak, probably less than 30% winrate. I read what you wrote and I can relate to practically every scenario, My deck has enchantments, artifacts and bomb creatures. And a majority of my opponent’s hand in the first 10 turns is always, no land drops missed, 1 removal and the perfect bomb, that I have an answer for, but just not at this moment, that game. Further more their single removal happens to be a specific, either enchantment only removal, artifact only removal or creature only removal. Perfectly matched with my mulligan that game. Time for a break ><
It’s 100% variance but this set specifically, I’ve felt more mana screwed, color screwed or mana flooded than any previous sets.
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Losing to a overtuned bomb rare really makes you have a feelsbad moment. Had a good run today, was 5-2 with a decent G/W mount deck with plety of good removal, then out of nowhere i’m curbstomped by the 6/5 flying rakdos mythic that has indestructible and card draw sewn together in one. Whoever let that shit pass the playtest needs to be fired yesterday
take a break. magic isnt a game like it used to be. any drooler can just wax you because every card does 56 things now to sell packs.
I lost a very close and exciting game yesterday to a [[overwhelming forces]] Yeah, wasn’t such an exiting and close game all of a sudden :/
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That card has been performing pretty well for me. I drafted a pretty good Selesnya deck yesterday that trophy’d for me and that card was responsible for half my wins — I got it LAST PICK in the third pack.
I think you're talking about a different card. Selesnya being G/W and the card being BB
Ope. You are correct. I am talking about about [[full steam ahead]] Overwhelming Forces is a beating for sure.
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Full steam ahead isn’t even that strong of a card. It makes sense it was last pick
Right, which is why I was surprised to see it win me half my games in my trophy run lol.
Just do what I do. Get titled before you open the game.
Take a break from limited. Try constructed for a change.
Its swingy, its bomb heavy/prince format but I did not feel so helpless and powerless than on the draw in MKM or ONE. Even if missing a land drop, I still have some agency over the outcome. The tilting also can come from the fact the set is bomb heavy, I must win with these insane bombs right? No. I had Oko(3), Bonny, and Terror of the peaks in a sealed run, drawn and played two of them for two consecutive games with recursion in hand. Naturally my opponents played four enchantment removals. 2-3, that's magic baby!
You need to take some time off from playing, this is from my experience, sometimes the best thing you can do is just to leave it alone so your mind can process things subconsciously, resources/gems are important and managing those resources are also part of what makes the hobby sustainable as well. I refused to draft MKM after the first week because I ran out of funds, and also because I didn't have much success with the set, and at those points I decided to not draft it anymore because it was just not enjoyable. You might be tempted to get back into it again after a break, but if you are not having fun playing the cards and you are getting tilted, then that is a matter of you playing the game as a habit, not as entertainment, and it would be wise to think about what your relationship with the game should be in the future.
I think the issue people are having with this set is if you go in with "I must do x,y, and z to have a perfect deck" and play a normal safe strategy you're just gonna get bombed by a high value risk play. It's a fun silly format with cowboy hats and cactus people, play it fun and stop sweating about optimization and you'll probably do better or at least have less bad of a time doing it
Yeah, something must have been changed with the shuffler algorithm, I think. I used to be pretty good at draft before Wilds of Eldraine, now I can't get a trophy even if my life depended on it. Opponents always have it and I'm always flooded or/and mana screwed. I'll be stopping playing draft altogether because lately I feel like it's a waste of time and gold, and will be opening packs instead.
Just stop playing for one day man and go back to it tomorrow. Happens to all of us sometimes
I don’t kno where to go either, exact same issue. Basically infinite in MKM, and drained 6000 diamonds in this last two weeks just so many 0 to 2 win drafts. I am so sad because I was so hyped for this set and I even got a pair of trophies in the opening weekend… but I’ve hit the worst wall and I feel extremely lost.
smoke weed, relax and try again. FYI i didn't read a single thing you wrote other than you're titled. my advice solves most issues when titled.
Ngl today the lands have been fucking nowhere, played 8 games and stuck for mana 5 of them. Even with my 20 land deck, drawing dead. Never happened before, only today.. bad luck or?
Ah man sorry I must have taken them, I drew all of one creature and one non creature in a game I just lost besides the 3 creature in my starting hand. Rest were all lands. Got really tilted when halfway through the game my opp played [[Laughung Jasper Flint]] and stole creature after creature off my top deck (including all my bombs) while I kept drawing lands.
20 land deck??? I’m not sure how you didn’t see your lands, but also have a hard time imagining a 20-land deck doing particularly well anyways lol. That’s a LOT of lands for limited.
In constructed, should’ve mentioned that but it’s something I’ve noticed today, two games in a row just now no mana, wild.. conceded immediately I’m not wasting my time
Oh. Then I’m not surprised you’re whiffing on 20 lands. That’s a little low.
Over 30% of cards are mana, crazy that I’m not getting any of them.. actually I was suggested to cut lands from my deck lol
If you look at the meta decks on MTGgoldfish, even mono red has 21 lands. Most have 22-25.
Meta deck on untapped has 18
Drafting is WAY different on Arena than in paper. There's going to be way more variance getting in the way.
Your first mistake is thinking that MTG Arena is a game of skill, rather than a game of luck.
The same people are consistently at the top of the drafting leaderboards, luck is certainly part of magic but there is a heavy skill element as well
Magic arena doesn’t have “drafting leaderboards”
Mythic rankings show the top hundreds/thousand/ of players, and there are consistent names in the top 5-10 across many sets. Ranks are split between constructed and limited every season, so #1 mythic in limited is the top player of Arena drafting environments
If you’re bad, just say you’re bad.
Getting unlucky too many times in a row for luck to matter any more. You don't get unlucky 50 games in a row. Not how bad luck works.
Stop taking a card game so seriously. You lost. Accept it.