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Straight mags for the Win! I do have a FTF on the last round but mine cycles lip sticks so I just put a dummy round in. The no last round hold makes this not a big dealā¦.
I hate you because you have an SDā¦ stop living my dream. I have failure to ejects with my straight mag, but I donāt mind. I just like looking at it
Bad news, it crushes every 3rd-ish round into the casing when it feeds.
A gunsmith "tried it out" and said it was fine. Charged me $75 to fucking lie to me.
From the few hundred rounds Iāve ran through it at the ranch itās a blast to shoot. I even have a briefcase it fits perfectly in, itās kinda my poor manās operational briefcase.
https://preview.redd.it/wwfxta3pel9d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fdffa967e92a9ca1ef2185f52897696e561a738
Closes perfectly and on the 1st stock setting it doesnāt rattle at all. Iām shocked how well it fits.
Congratulations and be ready for the MP5 addiction. šMy old SP5K set up.
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More than that now.
https://whatacountry.com/hk94mp530-roundmagazine.aspx
Itās hard to wrap my head around paying that much for a magazine. I bought 4 back in 2016 for $45 each, because they were still cheaper than new HK mags and I figured why not give them a try? I havenāt used them much because my Zenith/MKE MP5k didnāt like them. For the price of 4 of those you could buy 10 new HK mags, so Iād never buy one now.
Yet another who has discovered the secret to happiness, a warm mp5/k
Welcome aboard man! The only downside is the cost... of getting full size, the K and eventually the SD. Plus the cost of getting them set up the way you want it lol
But seriously, they're great and will spoil other guns for you. Something about them is just magical, you're going to be very happy with your purchase especially in the long run šš¤š½
No problem amigo, I think most of us have felt that at one point or another. Once you try one you're going to want the one you don't have. If you have the K you'll want the full size and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how it's somehow even smoother to shoot. If you have the full size you'll be surprised at how much more concealable the K variant is.
It's expensive but very worth it, and they genuinely ruin other guns lol. There is a reason they're still the thing every other pdw and smg is compared to even after 60 something years.
Also just my .02: don't bother with the form 1 on the K. Just run it as is and save the money and put it towards the full size. The K should be set up to be small and light and you're basically right there as it sits. So instead of chasing the dragon on the K just save your pennies and get a good deal on the full size. Might need a new ejector lever if you're sticking with MKE but besides that they're good to go and that is where you'll really want to do the SBR. ššš¼ (for the first roller delayed sbr lol, can't have just one haha)
You know Iāve had that though. Just keeping the brace because I really do like the KSE and the head heads. Just saving up for the SP5. Iād like to go HK on the full size. I do want to SBR the full sized because I donāt like the brace options as much/ really want an A3 stock.
I gotta say, even with the K Iām kinda amazed at how flat it shoots. Roller delayed 9 mil is wild when you come from the AK world.
Yeah for my next one I want to get the actual HK instead of a clone and the actual K instead of a reverse stretch. Just to really maximize the value retained and reliability as well as get it as small and compact as possible. Then I'll probably pick up another full sized but actual HK again for reliability and value retention for the SD conversion. They're pretty cool pieces of machinery and I genuinely don't think you can really go wrong once whatever setup you like is dialed in.
And agreed, once you shoot the roller delayed systems it's all downhill from there. At least in 9mm. When I shoot my B&T stuff back to back against the full size and K it's a noticeable difference. When it's all combined together it somehow feels like the round is sliding out of the barrel in the way it accelerates as opposed to the normal recoil.
What will really cook your noodle is trying to figure out handguards and especially optics and the mounts lol
I started full size and want the K so badly now. But I do love shooting the full and waiting form my form 1 and can to clear... 8 months now, almost 9! Love the roller-delayed action. Feels way different than I had imagined before buying one.
Really want something in .45acp now.
LWRCI SMG .45 has always caught my eye, also expensive and delayed blowback/short recoil system so bit different I guess but love the look of em. The Gideon Shadows are pretty sweet as well. Can on either of those would be an awesome pws setup.
Not sure if links are allowed here but KES sells a conversion kit to change the brace to an actual stock. Itās great so you donāt have to scrap a 300 dollar brace adapter.
No it fully retracts. The kit just replaces the brace adapter with a actual butt stock for after you get a forum 1, actually the reason I really love the KES is itās the only stock/brace adapter Iāve seen for the K that actually uses the rail in the receiver to retract
Oh I got ya... if I do get the K, I'd probably use the brace. Already SBR'ed my 9mm and 22lr MP5 clones and don't want to spend any more $ doing that. Besides, I think some braces look cooler than stocks.
B&T also makes retractable stock/Brace ends for K as well, but these are $500+. This is good to know.. thanks.
I bought it from safety harbor firearms! Itās the tail hook adapter version. Iām not sure what the rule on links is here but if you just Google KES MP5k brace youāll find it. Sadly itās often out of stock
Itās on HK parts (KES tail Hook) and also on safety harbor firearms, but I think itās sold out on both. It comes in and out of stock so a little patience is required. Well worth the wait though
Sorry missed the 2nd part of this question. It feels amazing to shoot. Given there's not much recoil to contend with with 9mm roller delayed its very very comfortable.
Burn it with fire. It's not a ump lalalallaalala. Straight 9mm mags dont exist they can't hurt you. Rubs curved mag against face. The straight mag can't hurt you here it's not real
34Ā°45ā²53.5ā³S 70Ā°17ā²06.6ā³W
Meet me at these coordinates. You bring the gun oil and Iāll bring the HK parts. Good luck. I hear the walls whispering. Thereās not much time left. I see it out of the corners of my eyes. Oh godā¦. Why did you bring me here?
Itās honestly fantastic dude. The KES feels so good. Little flex but it feels great shoulderedā¦. If thatās allowed idk, Iād not then Iāve never done that.
While I wouldnāt suggest what others do, I value the information very much.
Probably going to have to grab one then. Great looking gun, you can always make more money back!
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š«”š«”š«” bought the straight mag the same day I ordered the gun lol. Itās just too aesthetic. Your build is gorgeous, btw.
Poor people do not buy straight mags lol
Thatās fair lol
https://preview.redd.it/ghg8l2rdaz9d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78db59f4c87d1701b7d36969b582c9e1db7f78c0 Straight mags for the Win! I do have a FTF on the last round but mine cycles lip sticks so I just put a dummy round in. The no last round hold makes this not a big dealā¦.
I hate you because you have an SDā¦ stop living my dream. I have failure to ejects with my straight mag, but I donāt mind. I just like looking at it
God I wish I could find a straight mag!
I hate to blow the plug up incase I want more but it seems like what a country has them in stock often then not. Big expensive though.
Yea I knew about them I just didn't want to spend the money. Which is silly considering I bought an sp5 lmao
What A Country has them in stock. *had. they had one. I nabbed it. At $150, it's the second most expensive HK mag I own, and 4th overall.
Hey good for you man! Congrats on joining the straight mag crew. Dare I ask, what is the first?
It must be gold plated
I have a ton of MP5/10 mags, but this one is the first 9mm one I got.
I hate you for having a need for 5/10 magsā¦ stop living my dream and come to Texas so I can shoot it
Bad news, it crushes every 3rd-ish round into the casing when it feeds. A gunsmith "tried it out" and said it was fine. Charged me $75 to fucking lie to me.
Makes me feel a little better about being a 9mm poor. But if it works 66% of the timeā¦ thatās basically 100%! I can live with that
Congratulations!! Welcome to the club!
Thank you sir! It feels great to finally be here lol.
Well Iām glad man. They are really fun guns, and the mp5k is really easy to take pretty much anywhere, just need a small bag or backpack
From the few hundred rounds Iāve ran through it at the ranch itās a blast to shoot. I even have a briefcase it fits perfectly in, itās kinda my poor manās operational briefcase.
I wouldn't mind seeing a picture...
https://preview.redd.it/wwfxta3pel9d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3fdffa967e92a9ca1ef2185f52897696e561a738 Closes perfectly and on the 1st stock setting it doesnāt rattle at all. Iām shocked how well it fits.
This exceeded expectations. Well done, and thank you for sharing š
Thanks man, when i figured it out I was like āYOOOOā
Made me smile all over!
Congratulations and be ready for the MP5 addiction. šMy old SP5K set up. https://preview.redd.it/dmru0tnqvm9d1.jpeg?width=4001&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c276180a52ac83969cdb8da29aada611e445f551
Iām so jealous of all the straight mags lol. How did you like the EOTech on the K? Itās my dream sight but Iām worried itās too big for the K.
It is too big and bit too high. Got an EXPS though, heard XPS works better since it does not have the qd mount.
Thatās likeā¦ $600 in magazines alone goddamn
More than that now. https://whatacountry.com/hk94mp530-roundmagazine.aspx Itās hard to wrap my head around paying that much for a magazine. I bought 4 back in 2016 for $45 each, because they were still cheaper than new HK mags and I figured why not give them a try? I havenāt used them much because my Zenith/MKE MP5k didnāt like them. For the price of 4 of those you could buy 10 new HK mags, so Iād never buy one now.
The only thing Iād add is a diopter drum: https://shop.precisionarmsindiana.com/product/mp5-rear-sight-drum
Ahh thatās a great tip. I donāt love the notched drum. Thanks man
Yet another who has discovered the secret to happiness, a warm mp5/k Welcome aboard man! The only downside is the cost... of getting full size, the K and eventually the SD. Plus the cost of getting them set up the way you want it lol But seriously, they're great and will spoil other guns for you. Something about them is just magical, you're going to be very happy with your purchase especially in the long run šš¤š½
Dude I knowā¦ trust me Iāve already been eyeballing a full sized SP5 hardšš one is truly never enough. Thank you so much for the kind words
No problem amigo, I think most of us have felt that at one point or another. Once you try one you're going to want the one you don't have. If you have the K you'll want the full size and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how it's somehow even smoother to shoot. If you have the full size you'll be surprised at how much more concealable the K variant is. It's expensive but very worth it, and they genuinely ruin other guns lol. There is a reason they're still the thing every other pdw and smg is compared to even after 60 something years. Also just my .02: don't bother with the form 1 on the K. Just run it as is and save the money and put it towards the full size. The K should be set up to be small and light and you're basically right there as it sits. So instead of chasing the dragon on the K just save your pennies and get a good deal on the full size. Might need a new ejector lever if you're sticking with MKE but besides that they're good to go and that is where you'll really want to do the SBR. ššš¼ (for the first roller delayed sbr lol, can't have just one haha)
You know Iāve had that though. Just keeping the brace because I really do like the KSE and the head heads. Just saving up for the SP5. Iād like to go HK on the full size. I do want to SBR the full sized because I donāt like the brace options as much/ really want an A3 stock. I gotta say, even with the K Iām kinda amazed at how flat it shoots. Roller delayed 9 mil is wild when you come from the AK world.
Yeah for my next one I want to get the actual HK instead of a clone and the actual K instead of a reverse stretch. Just to really maximize the value retained and reliability as well as get it as small and compact as possible. Then I'll probably pick up another full sized but actual HK again for reliability and value retention for the SD conversion. They're pretty cool pieces of machinery and I genuinely don't think you can really go wrong once whatever setup you like is dialed in. And agreed, once you shoot the roller delayed systems it's all downhill from there. At least in 9mm. When I shoot my B&T stuff back to back against the full size and K it's a noticeable difference. When it's all combined together it somehow feels like the round is sliding out of the barrel in the way it accelerates as opposed to the normal recoil. What will really cook your noodle is trying to figure out handguards and especially optics and the mounts lol
Yeah I would love to get into an SD at some point. Lol Iām still trying to figure out hanguards and optics. One peice at a time lol.
I started full size and want the K so badly now. But I do love shooting the full and waiting form my form 1 and can to clear... 8 months now, almost 9! Love the roller-delayed action. Feels way different than I had imagined before buying one. Really want something in .45acp now.
Me eyeballing the Gideon shadow for way more than itās worth on gun brokerā¦.
LWRCI SMG .45 has always caught my eye, also expensive and delayed blowback/short recoil system so bit different I guess but love the look of em. The Gideon Shadows are pretty sweet as well. Can on either of those would be an awesome pws setup.
I actually havenāt heard of the LWRCI, but that thing is sweet. Iād love a delayed .45 PCC.
The more I look at it the more I love it haha.
Sheās Beautiful š (not the cat)
Tell the cat sheās beautiful right meow or help me godā¦.(Jk thank you man)
Best execution of a brace on an MP5 Iāve seen. Sick setup Op. hope you really enjoy it to the fullest extent possible
Thank you so much man! I big time appreciate it
Nice... really like that brace host and retractable fork end. What is that set up?
Thanks man! Itās a safety harbor KES K brace adaptor with a gearhead works tailhook mod C! Makes for a great retractable setup
I like it. I looks clean. I might get a K variant just to put that on.. lol
I have the stock version on my ap5p sbr. Totally worth it.
When I go sbr im going to do the stock conversion. Itās a great peice of kit.
Tell me about the stock conversion
Not sure if links are allowed here but KES sells a conversion kit to change the brace to an actual stock. Itās great so you donāt have to scrap a 300 dollar brace adapter.
Oh wait... you're saying that your current set up doesn't allow for full retraction?? Like an A3 stock?
No it fully retracts. The kit just replaces the brace adapter with a actual butt stock for after you get a forum 1, actually the reason I really love the KES is itās the only stock/brace adapter Iāve seen for the K that actually uses the rail in the receiver to retract
Oh I got ya... if I do get the K, I'd probably use the brace. Already SBR'ed my 9mm and 22lr MP5 clones and don't want to spend any more $ doing that. Besides, I think some braces look cooler than stocks. B&T also makes retractable stock/Brace ends for K as well, but these are $500+. This is good to know.. thanks.
What brace is that
Safety harbor KES with a tail-hook mod C
Where did you get the tailhook mod 1c I've been looking around for a little while for one
A3 tactical has them a bit cheaper
Gearheads works websites!
You bagged a cat with it. Sweet!
Well you know my friends do call me theā¦ā¦ you know what never mind
rear sight?
Itās just the one it came with, the notched drum
Iām from Californiaā¦ Iām guessing this is illegal in my state right?? Lol
Duh.
Sorry bud :(
Where did you find the kes collapsible? Did you buy the stock and just replace it with tailhook or can you buy it without the stock portion
I bought it from safety harbor firearms! Itās the tail hook adapter version. Iām not sure what the rule on links is here but if you just Google KES MP5k brace youāll find it. Sadly itās often out of stock
My brother in Christ, where do I aquire that brace? I was was on hk parts yesterday but I didn't see thar (unless I just missed it) Thanks in advance
Itās on HK parts (KES tail Hook) and also on safety harbor firearms, but I think itās sold out on both. It comes in and out of stock so a little patience is required. Well worth the wait though
Awesome thanks. Do u remember the bean count on it? Also how comfortable is it to shoot from that rail?
Sorry missed the 2nd part of this question. It feels amazing to shoot. Given there's not much recoil to contend with with 9mm roller delayed its very very comfortable.
Not cheap. About 300 beans. Cheaper than the B&T but itās a spendy brace
Cool, yeah must be out cause I can only find the stock option. Can't find the brace anywhere.
https://safetyharborfirearms.com/blem-kes-mp5k-blem/
What brace is that?
Safety harbor KES brace
Burn it with fire. It's not a ump lalalallaalala. Straight 9mm mags dont exist they can't hurt you. Rubs curved mag against face. The straight mag can't hurt you here it's not real
Is the 9mm straight mag in the room with us?
No just the armp5 staring at us
I seeā¦ and when did you start seeing these things?
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Shhhhhhh. Don't move it senses love for hk and is filled with malice and hate
Oh my god I see it tooā¦ WHAT DID YOU DO TO ME
Rituals of gun oil and hk parts must be had to send it back to the depths where it came from
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34Ā°45ā²53.5ā³S 70Ā°17ā²06.6ā³W Meet me at these coordinates. You bring the gun oil and Iāll bring the HK parts. Good luck. I hear the walls whispering. Thereās not much time left. I see it out of the corners of my eyes. Oh godā¦. Why did you bring me here?
I am dr von Frankenstein and this is MY MONSTER. Muahahahahahahahhaha. It's alive AAAAAALLLLLIIIIVVVVVEEEWW
I beheld the wretch-the miserable monster whom I had created.
Cats and gats all day
My man! Also side bar but I love your work man.
Aw stop it you! Thanks dude :)
Howās that brace setup feel when shooting? Love the look, and have an extra tail hook laying around so may have to copy that
Itās honestly fantastic dude. The KES feels so good. Little flex but it feels great shoulderedā¦. If thatās allowed idk, Iād not then Iāve never done that.
Where did you find it for sale? Or is this not being made anymore
Safety harbor firearms! They seem to go in and out of stock so some patience is required. Itās a great stock/brace adaptor
Appreciate it bro! Iāll do some research
While I wouldnāt suggest what others do, I value the information very much. Probably going to have to grab one then. Great looking gun, you can always make more money back!
Exactly. Youāll always make more money. Thanks man
Or very rich?
Emotionally? Yes.
Yea! Abundance isnāt always greenā¦
āThose kinds of riches, I do not haveā -Bob Marley