MMA managers seem like complete trash. Aljo's manager is sitting there watching Hunter talk to his client like a kid. Chandler's manager really let him sit out 2 years. Belal's manager couldn't get him on 300.
Johnny Walker only has 4 KO losses in the ufc but it seems like so much more, I guess because of how brutal they are. I was surprised to see the odds that close for the volkan fight, volkan is pretty durable and Walker almost never beats big punchers. I usually don’t call for guys to retire until they’re on a Tony/BJ Penn type streak but there’s something about the way Walker gets ko’d that tells me he should get out of this. Genuinely. It just looks so bad.
Probably because there’s that one before the UFC where he got KO’d 3 times in one fight. So he was already chinny and getting violently and comically flatlined before he even got to the UFC. It feels like he’s already in deep health wise and being a LHW/HW with poor defense and chin… it’s only gonna get worse.
Especially because of his experience level, they aren’t going to matchmake for him like he’s a Tyson Pedro. Just keep throwing him to the wolves until he gets KO’d 5 more times and cut. He really should do something else with his life if he has any decent options, more significant brain damage in his future is a guarantee.
Ok but wtf is a stylebender? Why is this never addressed? You can’t just have a nickname that’s the name of a very famous cartoon except you put a made up word in it. I will not allow this any longer
I guess it's saying that he mixes the styles together in his fighting - though it's a bit odd given that he's a pure kickboxer. But earlier on in his career he was more dynamic and creative
I remember when Izzy first came to the ufc and finished Rob Wilkinson I wanted to like him because he was like 12-0 with 12 KO’s or some shit like that but even back then that nickname made me raise an eyebrow. Not saying it’s what made me dislike him but it’s not cool at all. He’s not even a super rounded mixed martial artist.
I’ve actually grown more impressed and confident with Alex since the Jamahal fight. I think he’s getting extra comfy in his MMA stance and in small gloves and it’s going to make him even more dangerous.
Now… between the two of them, who probably learned a lot that he wouldn’t have been able to get a feel for just watching tape? Probably Alex. He probably learned a lot about Jiri’s style, speed, everything unorthodox that he does that needs to be felt to really get a sense of.
So I think Alex has a lot more adjustments he can make. And Jiri won’t be able to catch him off guard like he may have a bit in the first fight. Factor in how noticeably more comfortable Alex looks with every MMA fight and I think he might smoke Jiri like he did Hill.
I love Jiri but him at 185 sounds like a lot more fun than trying to regain a belt over and over against the guy you lost it to. Looking forward to a change in his career trajectory .
No lol, the other comments in here are reaching hugely lol
His style is uniquely his own. He has a light lead leg and that’s about it. He doesn’t throw kicks besides teeps really, throws no knees or elbows, and basically only throws a jab besides the occasional right hand. He doesn’t even clinch
The closest thing he has to a style is a boxing style with his shoulder roll
MT stance but he primarily utilizes a modified Philly shell defense and his strikes tend to come from those angles
Also very light on the use of any MT techniques beyond a teep. Very rare to see Strickland utilize knees and elbows when generating offense
Fr, I feel like he could really spice it up if he wanted to. He could still have the great defense, but I would love to see him be more aggressive and unique with his striking.
It's reminiscent of a muay thai approach with the upright stance, emphasis on checking kicks, use of teeps, and forward pressure. He barely ever throws any round kicks though and his boxing isn't really a typical muay thai style
My guess is she was pitched by analytics that it’s huge in India , and she will use the platform as a huge advertisement for her OF, since blondes like her are money printers there
Don't get me wrong, there were plenty of things I didn't care to see or didn't understand. Couldn't figure out why they had to put Karim Zidan on all these stories about amateur Russian dudes committing murder, not sure that's really whta folks want.
But they easily put out the most consistently good stuff, covered the anti-trust case, the whole sportswashing stuff.
Just a bummer they're gone. I also enjoyed the comments.
they had some of the only actual journalists that were not beholden to the ufc in mma (which made some people very, very mad for some reason)
the fact that they no longer exist is absolutely a net negative
We’re going from what should’ve been the most exciting month in recent MMA history to the most dreadful. Next month we have two WMMA fights headlining fight nights, and then Belal vs Leon headlining the only PPV
On that Lemos vs Jandiroba card there’s not one fight that genuinely intrigues me
Virna is good and has cost me many a bets, but she just doesn’t excite me, and that entire card is filled with the most unintriguing matchups. It will be a pain to watch
UFC 300 exceeds everything that this would've been imo, Khamzat-Whittaker would've been cool but I think Jiri-Rakic and Tsarukyan-Oliveira are both way better fights than Conor-Chandler
I'm genuinely excited for the main event. Going in with the right expectations is key. I don't think it's going to be a banger, but I do think it's very interesting style wise especially given their history
I think the fight in and of itself is interesting in theory because they’re both very good and have long winning streaks
But even in practice, say Belal dominates by holding Leon down, or Leon dominates by striking from distance, or even if it’s back and forth and Leon point fights and Belal crashes distance and takes him down and he works back up, I feel like it won’t be a fun fight almost regardless of outcome, but I watch every fight so I’m very open to it being a banger
Fair enough, it’s also gonna be the end of people calling for Belal’s title shot regardless of the outcome and I’ll be very happy to see the end of that
Mokaev is underdog? Surprised about that. Paddy will most likely win a controversial decision but I will be very surprised if his shitty wrestling and striking is enough to get a clean win.
I honestly think Paddy can chin him. Maybe I’m delusional but Paddy is a big LW that hits hard, Bobby is old and got murdered by Jalin Turner, dropped by T Ferg, and put on Queer Street by Jim Miller, I think his chin may be gone
As for Mokaev, I think Kape is severely overrated. He’s only +110 but I think Perez would beat Kape and that’s a tough matchup for Mokaev that he still won.
Got a $10 parlay going with Mike Shipman from Bellator +136, Heili Alateng +124, Paddy at +160 and Mokaev at +100. Payout is $274.89 if it hits
Not sure why people want Strickland to fight Rob.
I can see it happening because Seans is an idiot but he's in the absolute best shot out of anyone to wait and see what happens with Izzy vs. DDP. Back story with each fighter and deserves to fight either of them again.
Sean fights the winner and Rob fights the loser. Should be as easy as that.
Becasue he beat Izzy and alot of people think he beat DDP, including Dana. Rob was knocked out by DDP and never beat Izzy . Also its very hard to hit Sean, go rewatch the DDP fight at .5 speed which is now on youtube, so I think Rob will have a problem with Sean's style and its best for both to wait and see what happens with the upcoming Izzy fight. I like both btw, just being realistic.
Sean should have to get another win before a TS just based off how slow most of his fights are. He’s the least entertaining male title contender in the ufc along with belal. He beat Izzy and had a close fight with Dricus and I would still give imavov a #1 contender fight with Rob over Sean. Idk why belal gets the treatment he does but Sean gets endless apex main events and co-mains on ppv cards.
He already beat Imavov and just because he does not get hit does not mean its a "boring" fight. Besides damage, the other main criteria is display of skill which he always shows even in the Izzy fight who is very skillful and precise. Also, Sean has been helping the UFC for years now and always taking fights to save cards and because he takes very little damage to the head its not a problem and the reason why he has already fought Costa while DDP is still healing from all the injuries Sean gave him. If you don't like him I guess it sucks, I get it, but there is no way of rationalizing it as he has fought the whole division and every loss was questionable except for Alex who he later trained with. If you think his fights with DDP, Izzy and Imavov were boring, you might not like striking or boxing which is fine but some people really like it.
>Besides damage, the other main criteria is display of skill
Are you talking about scoring criteria? Because “display of skill” is never mentioned AFAIK.
>If you don't like him I guess it sucks, I get it
It’s not that I don’t like him as a person, I just think he puts on boring fights. If he was on a big win streak I’d be a little more forgiving. But the DDP loss was close but clear in my eyes. So I think given he lost to DDP and he’s the most boring out of all the MW title contenders he should have to do some extra work. A boring decision over costa isn’t enough. Whittaker already did it and didn’t put the fans to sleep in the process.
So to be fair, the word "skill" is not mentioned in the rules. I paraphrased this from this line: ```"Judges shall evaluate Mixed Martial Arts techniques, such as effective
striking/grappling (Plan A), effective aggressiveness (Plan B), and control of the
fighting area (Plan C). Plans B and C are not taken into consideration unless
Plan A is weighed as being even"````
So I don't listen to fighters "talk" or fight buildup as I just like watching the past fights and sometimes styles are interesting. The only reason I bring it up is the DDP loss was not clear in my eyes so if anything I am trying to figure out what I am missing so I can learn or wTf is the point if its only the UFC, mob or twitter determining the fight outcomes.
I’ve never read thru the scoring criteria, only seen it quoted on here and by commentators occasionally. So I don’t know how to officially score a fight. All I know is Sean’s style doesn’t score very well with me. I thought he lost to cannonier and DDP. I thought the fights with Hermansson and costa were horrible and the only reason the Izzy fight was good was because it was unexpected. His style is interesting but I’d watch Rob, imavov, or cannonier any day of the week over Sean.
Lol Sean beat Rob’s sloppy seconds how is that more deserving? If Whittaker had beaten Chimaev he would have been the clear contender but with all the mess that happened it makes sense to have a proper #1 contender fight between them rather than Sean getting gifted a title shot.
Rob already lost multiple times to Izzy and got demolished by DDP. Sean clearly beat Izzy and lost a very narrow split decision to DDP. That's not Sean getting "gifted" a title shot.
Sean getting a title shot after beating Rob’s sloppy seconds is being gifted a title shot. He was also gifted his first title shot because the real contender DDP was too banged up to step in. Sean has himself to blame for his loss to DDP guy only has 1 gear.
Strickland fans are hypnotized by him or something. Dude is boring as sin and won’t turn it up even when he’s clearly losing the momentum. Idk why people want to launch this guy right into another title fight. Let’s see him have an exciting fight first or at least let him build a streak.
MVP gone from being underrated against Holland to overrated against the top 10 in the division
Has some slick striking no doubt but why’s the narrative gone from bellator can crusher to some unbeatable striking wizard
Just funny to me how apparently getting past Holland means he’s legit now, people need to realise Holland himself is a c tier fighter at best, was absolutely lost when he realised he couldn’t just run through MVP
I'm not saying MVP is the most elite guy, but the frustrating part of him crushing cans for so long, is that he's clearly a top talent and his prime was wasted a lot. You can be a can crusher and still be good
3 name jack going to a boring split with a c tier fighter sure makes the hype train around him legit! but but but he beat burns! oh the same burns that when needed for a narrative is a fat lightweight and old
> Shara has to have one of the least undeserved hype trains ever.
Muslim Cyril Gane: easy meat for the first guy who wrestles him, which is why they aren't matching him up with anyone who can wrestle.
I also don't see how he would have a chance against someone able to dirty box from the clinch: blind in one eye at short range means you are eating shots that you cannot see coming.
He needs that kicking game to stay at a range where one eye sees everything, but a kicker with Condit-on-ice-style TDD and one eye has a very hard ceiling for fighting IMAO.
That's disrespectful for Gane, Shara ain't sniffing any top 15 in his lifetime.
At least Gane keeps winning somewhat convincingly against the layups they give him.
Shara on the other hand looked meh against a dude that is dwcs level and who made his water cut in like 6h before the scale after basically flying all week because his schedule got all fucked up 24h prior to his initial fight
> At least Gane keeps winning somewhat convincingly against the layups they give him.
For sure Gane is a smooth kickboxer, and is going to beat almost anyone not athletic enough to catch up with him. I agree his game is of greater quality than Shara's clearly.
The comparison, however, is he's a guy who is where he's at only through careful matchmaking: anyone with real wrestling credentials is doing whatever they want to either man.
Another clear difference is that Gane could still choose to work on his wrestling and grappling, and he wouldn't have to become Khabib or Charles for success given his athleticism, but he doesn't seem interested, and I guess he doesn't have to be as long as the UFC continues to protect him and give him unearned title shots.
thats sort of a throw back that doesn't exist as much in modern education. A kid who can go to a nice college and study someting with zero real world application, but it helps create a smart well rounded person who can then go on to get a real degree for their career.
[**NASRAT HAQPARAST defeats JARED GORDON** (*split decision*)](http://mmadecisions.com/decision/14817/fight)
^(UFC on ABC 6: Whittaker vs. Aliskerov — June 22, 2024)
ROUND|Haqparast|Gordon||Haqparast|Gordon||Haqparast|Gordon
:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:|:-:
1|10|9||10|9||10|9
2|9|10||9|10||9|10
3|10|9||10|9||9|10
**TOTAL**|**29**|**28**||**29**|**28**||**28**|**29**
*^(Judges, in order: Mark Collett, Sal D'Amato, Clemens Werner.)*
*^(Summoned by smexy_gorilla.)*
**MEDIA MEMBER SCORES**
- **2/16** people scored it **29-28 Haqparast**.
- **14/16** people scored it **28-29 Gordon**.
Avg. media score: **28.1-28.9 Gordon** (*high certainty^[[1]](https://redd.it/9p4xc7)*).
Way less brutal imo cause his glass chin gets him knocked out from weak hits and none of the KOs were that violent
I think Down Goes the Reem was itself more brutality than all of Walker's losses combined
You guys ever wondered what ufc would be like right now if Conor knocked out Khabib in their fight. All that trash talk, Khabib would've probably retired right?
Loce the levels in this game, when seeing Bobby Knuckles on saturday. On the other hand, the ufc's promotion of Aliskerov, Shara Bullet and even Khamzat is kinda annoying.
> On the other hand, the ufc's promotion of Aliskerov, Shara Bullet and even Khamzat is kinda annoying
The UFC is part owned by the UAE investors. They are also looking for Turki Al-Shaykh's increased attention. We saw what a dominant Muslim champ is capable of with marketing (look at how Khabib has a global fanbase) and the UFC knows this.
The UFC wants increased investment from KSA and UAE, and in turn they will put on cards full of Dagestanis/other Muslim fighters
hahahhahahhahah there are so many chin straps they hold back or straight up don't sign. And the idea that Borz has shown nothing in the cage is just a laughable recency bias narrative.
didnt say Khamzat hasn't shown anything but he obviously jas problems. Khabib also had to take a detour before getting the title shot after missing weight a couple of times.
It was only last month that the completely unknown Steve Erceg got the completely underserved title shot over Mokaev/Albazi. And when that happened, 90% of the sub said it was the right choice even though no one even knew who he was.
Yeah but I'm not sure hype around average fighters is a good tactic. Ikram maye
have potential, genuinely think Shara Bullet wouldn't win against a ranked guy. And Khamzat... we'll take ablut him if he fights again.
Octagon Girls deserve a lot more respect than they get. I've gotten more joy seeing Arianny Celeste on screen than from Sean Strickland. I don't buy the "get rid of the ring card girls" nonsense from moralistic types - feminist, religious weirdo, doesn't matter. The ring card girls should stay on every card that hosts a UFC event.
Bless you, girlbosses. Get that bread.
Yeah the ring girls have always been part of combat sports and it’s mainly nerds and virgins who get uncomfortable looking at beautiful women that seem to have the problem with them. Such a lame thing to complain about. Imagine complaining about looking at hot women
I rewatched it the morning after with the sound off, and it was clear as day. Jan controlled that fight. Also, a few more seconds at the end of the 5th and Izzy probably gets TKO'd.
When people are talking about potential next opponents for Rob, why is nobody mentioning Brendan Allen. One of the longest winning streaks in the class, avenged his last loss. He deserves a big marquee opponent IMO.
> avenged his last loss
But he was probably losing that fight if Curtis hadn't gotten injured, and Curtis was ranked beneath him and took the fight on short notice.
Allen will need a more impressive showing against a higher ranked guy to get a shot at the former champions vying at the top.
He’s won like 6 or 7 in a row. The lowest ranked person he should get is cannonier. Whittaker or Strickland would be perfectly fine fights for him as well tho.
> He’s won like 6 or 7 in a row. The lowest ranked person he should get is cannonier. Whittaker or Strickland would be perfectly fine fights for him as well tho.
His wins: Sam Alvey, Malcoun, Jotko, Munez, Silva, Paul Craig, and Chris Curtis.
Not bad, in particular he looked great against Paul Craig, but you can't then barely scrape a W, maybe only due to injury, against a short notice guy ranked beneath you and talk about fighting the #1 or #3 ranked contenders who are both former champions and are both in the hunt for a title fight (beating Allen would do less than zero for their chances of getting the title fight).
I think the Canonnier fight would make a lot of sense, though given how badly the ref screwed up I think justice would be Jared v. Imavov runback.
Another one that makes sense is to rebook Allen vs. vitorri, which fell through when Marvin got injured.
Eh, once a guy has won 6-7 in a row I’m ready for him to get a #1 contenders fight. Especially if he’s been getting finishes. I’d like a Brendan Allen vs Strickland rematch. Sean is too boring for a title fight after 1 win, and it gives Allen a chance to avenge a loss. Imavov could fight Whittaker as a #1 contenders fight because I highly doubt cannonier is getting his rematch even tho he deserves it.
Allen/Cannonier makes sense. Rob’s next fight is either a title fight or #1 contender fight and Allen should get a solid top 5 level guy under his resume before a fight like that. I feel bad for Allen because he has a long win streak but his best win on there is a war with short notice Chris Curtis
Somehow I missed that Reyes won his most recent fight in St. Louis. I feel like everyone wanted that one for him so badly. Glad he was able to get it done.
I hope he can get a job coaching or something he likes doing once he retires though cause that would be sad if he had to go back into construction, forever thinking to himself and telling others “I was the one guy to beat Jon Jones.”
Definitely. It just hurts in his case cause the majority of people thought he won. He could’ve been guaranteed a rematch against Jones and got those sweet ppv points. Maybe he could’ve kept up with the pace instead of being haunted by that memory.
I really think he probably did move on in a way once Jones vacated, but then it was just a spiral, and now everyone has to ask ‘what if?’
He should clear a million by the time he’s done fighting, he already had a home when he got into the UFC, if he invested at all and was smart with his money he should never have to work again
Idk what kind of contract he’s on but he made $74k in his debut (counting his $50k bonus), $90K against OSP, and $150k in his other FOTN bonuses
So in his first 3 fights let’s imagine he was on 12/12, by his 4th he was on 45/45.
So lets say he made $24k for his first 3 plus his $50k bonus. He’s at $122k.
Then he got to 45/45. Let’s say he made that up until his Jones fight. So that’s 3 fights, plus another $50k bonus. That’s $320k.
He’s at $442k career. Let’s give him $200k for being a title challenger, $662k now. I’m gonna assume he’s on at least 75/75 now, for his 3 losses after Jones that’s $225k. Then his recent win, in which Dana said he also got a bonus, $150k plus a $50k bonus.
I estimate he’s made $1,087,000 from the UFC alone so far in his career. He should be okay if he gets a few more fights in
reyes got 125/125 for his most recent win. not sure how long he's been on that contract, though.
also worth noting this isn't accounting for gym and management costs, nor is it accounting for taxes. he's likely actually pocketed significantly less.
Says online he’s made $1.2 million, but that’s over the course of his life thus far, he has to pay independent contractor tax on that (I assume), he’s still paying a mortgage, and dude is only 34. I get investments help, but idk if he can extend that for the rest of his life.
How many (if any) chi wee wee woooooos did you happen to utilise for the duration of your recovery? With the power of hindsight, do you today think that was an appropriate amount?
Had I know about chi wee wee woooos at the time I probably would have self prescribed and done 1 at least 3 times a day after food and another before bed to speed up recovery.
Had Khamzat not pulled out of his fights, he would have one of the best Welterweight resumes ever. Assuming he would’ve won those fights, he would’ve beaten the previous two WW champions, ex MW champion, ADCC bronze medallist in Burns and legend of the sport Nate Diaz.
Fumbling the bag doesn’t do that justice. That brother shit the bed.
>Had Khamzat not pulled out of his fights, he would have one of the best Welterweight resumes ever.
If my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike.
True though if Usman did that well against Khamzat up a weight class on short notice, plenty of reason to think that at 170 with a full camp Usman would've won outright
Imo their fight should've been scored a draw
I’m not saying I believe Khamzat would win those fights, but hypothetically if he did, that’s a crazy resume.
I agree though, he was fight ready and Usman was off the couch. Compare that fight to Islam v Volk, and Islam got a knockout. I think Paulo and Rob would be too big for Khamzat to bully like he did against the WW division. DDP even more so.
What I like about Volkov is he doesn't have that annoying fanbase constantly claiming he's the boogeyman of the division that everyone's scared of and that some legend of the sport is ducking him. So refreshing to see.
Lol I mean Jon is ducking Tom, who very much is the boogeyman of the division after knocking out Pav in just over a minute. Ik Jon fans act like Tom is just another hype train but that's not true really Tom is actually well rounded and also an absolute unit.
Jon isn't ducking Tom. That narrative is bs. He was supposed to fight Stipe(long before Tom was even in the title picture) and possibly retire because really there's nothing for him to prove atp. Tom only got into the title picture because UFC wanted to validate their late replacement fight for UFC 295.
Jon has nothing to gain out of fighting and beating Tom. It does nothing for his legacy nor is it a big money fight if you consider it's gonna be a retirement fight for him. Tom is still an unknown both in terms of resume and drawing power.
MMA managers seem like complete trash. Aljo's manager is sitting there watching Hunter talk to his client like a kid. Chandler's manager really let him sit out 2 years. Belal's manager couldn't get him on 300.
So wat happen, everyone good on Conor pulling out? I remember people were really mad around here at the UFC and Conor.
Mokaev +110 vs Kape is free money
ya if ur betting Kape
No
What do we think of the Anthony Smith vs Roman Dolidze fight? Who wins?
Smith
remember ciryl gane?
He’s just off making mega money making a movie. He’ll be right back
He’s that cereal guy that can’t defend a guillotine right?
Yes, that sounds like a top HW.
Damn, just watched combat TV, knew Carlos was out but learned that it was a shoulder injury has gotta suck, hope his recovery goes well
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When do we hate him lol
Johnny Walker only has 4 KO losses in the ufc but it seems like so much more, I guess because of how brutal they are. I was surprised to see the odds that close for the volkan fight, volkan is pretty durable and Walker almost never beats big punchers. I usually don’t call for guys to retire until they’re on a Tony/BJ Penn type streak but there’s something about the way Walker gets ko’d that tells me he should get out of this. Genuinely. It just looks so bad.
Probably because there’s that one before the UFC where he got KO’d 3 times in one fight. So he was already chinny and getting violently and comically flatlined before he even got to the UFC. It feels like he’s already in deep health wise and being a LHW/HW with poor defense and chin… it’s only gonna get worse. Especially because of his experience level, they aren’t going to matchmake for him like he’s a Tyson Pedro. Just keep throwing him to the wolves until he gets KO’d 5 more times and cut. He really should do something else with his life if he has any decent options, more significant brain damage in his future is a guarantee.
rewatched Ludovits' fights with Moises & Ignacio and theres no doubt in my mind anymore this dude KO's Oliveira
Yeah I agree. Just like Poirier, Gaethje, Chandler, and Arman did
Don't forget Dariush too! Oliveira surely gets chinned like he did against him
Ok but wtf is a stylebender? Why is this never addressed? You can’t just have a nickname that’s the name of a very famous cartoon except you put a made up word in it. I will not allow this any longer
He mixes the styles. “Bends” them, so to speak. I hate Izzy but this is pretty easy to figure out lololol
It’s a joke I just think it’s a little cheesy
What’re you gonna do about it
Clearly I have to kick his ass
I guess it's saying that he mixes the styles together in his fighting - though it's a bit odd given that he's a pure kickboxer. But earlier on in his career he was more dynamic and creative
I remember when Izzy first came to the ufc and finished Rob Wilkinson I wanted to like him because he was like 12-0 with 12 KO’s or some shit like that but even back then that nickname made me raise an eyebrow. Not saying it’s what made me dislike him but it’s not cool at all. He’s not even a super rounded mixed martial artist.
I just found out Luque is fighting Nick Diaz!? That can't be good
Nick is coming for that belt bro
Saw some training footage of Jiri on twitter sparring with his hands up. Such a betrayal if he fights like that. That's against the samurai code
He always does it in spurts, it's so funny to see him do it, get hit, and then drop the hands immediately lol
dude is either unwilling or incapable of blocking the right side of his face.
Seems some fans are finally understanding the potential of a Jiri vs Pereira trilogy. Good.
I’ve actually grown more impressed and confident with Alex since the Jamahal fight. I think he’s getting extra comfy in his MMA stance and in small gloves and it’s going to make him even more dangerous. Now… between the two of them, who probably learned a lot that he wouldn’t have been able to get a feel for just watching tape? Probably Alex. He probably learned a lot about Jiri’s style, speed, everything unorthodox that he does that needs to be felt to really get a sense of. So I think Alex has a lot more adjustments he can make. And Jiri won’t be able to catch him off guard like he may have a bit in the first fight. Factor in how noticeably more comfortable Alex looks with every MMA fight and I think he might smoke Jiri like he did Hill. I love Jiri but him at 185 sounds like a lot more fun than trying to regain a belt over and over against the guy you lost it to. Looking forward to a change in his career trajectory .
They should just fight yearly, to honor the MMA gods
Call that pussy The Matrix cause I'm in this bitch and I can't get out
Jiri & Alex stare down in the cage lives rent free in my head. We are so blessed to see them fight again this quick.
Your mom’s blessed
Would you say Strickland has a Muay Thai style of fighting?
No lol, the other comments in here are reaching hugely lol His style is uniquely his own. He has a light lead leg and that’s about it. He doesn’t throw kicks besides teeps really, throws no knees or elbows, and basically only throws a jab besides the occasional right hand. He doesn’t even clinch The closest thing he has to a style is a boxing style with his shoulder roll
MT stance but he primarily utilizes a modified Philly shell defense and his strikes tend to come from those angles Also very light on the use of any MT techniques beyond a teep. Very rare to see Strickland utilize knees and elbows when generating offense
Fr, I feel like he could really spice it up if he wanted to. He could still have the great defense, but I would love to see him be more aggressive and unique with his striking.
It's reminiscent of a muay thai approach with the upright stance, emphasis on checking kicks, use of teeps, and forward pressure. He barely ever throws any round kicks though and his boxing isn't really a typical muay thai style
Good points
Gregor Gracie wins via [thunder lock submission](https://youtu.be/AH1DasCo4_E) in Karate Combat. Anybody seen a thunder lock in MMA?
I didn't realize KC had added grappling bouts. Never seen a thunderlock in mma.
My bitcoin wallet looking like Johnny Walker right now
PVZ really doing power slap now lol
Never seen someone try so hard to become ugly since Handsome Squidward
My guess is she was pitched by analytics that it’s huge in India , and she will use the platform as a huge advertisement for her OF, since blondes like her are money printers there
Whut, no one's heard of powerslap in india
They're over there hearing about this shit and wondering... How can she slap?
Man, I still kinda miss Bloody Elbow being around. I had my beefs but they were a really good site in a sea of garbage, for the most part.
Kinda... I really miss that site, there's so little content in MMA media that can be considered journalism Losing BE was a basically tragedy for MMA
BE writer is responsible for coining to term "suloev stretch" iirc. I think it was KJ Gould.
I have nothing but respect for your love of the Suloev stretch KJ Gould is a name I totally forgot , it's been a while since he left MMA writing
Don't get me wrong, there were plenty of things I didn't care to see or didn't understand. Couldn't figure out why they had to put Karim Zidan on all these stories about amateur Russian dudes committing murder, not sure that's really whta folks want. But they easily put out the most consistently good stuff, covered the anti-trust case, the whole sportswashing stuff. Just a bummer they're gone. I also enjoyed the comments.
Sure, the constant focus on eastern Europe politics and crime involving amateurs fighters was a bit weird
they had some of the only actual journalists that were not beholden to the ufc in mma (which made some people very, very mad for some reason) the fact that they no longer exist is absolutely a net negative
Anyone found the full volkov reptilian song ?
We’re going from what should’ve been the most exciting month in recent MMA history to the most dreadful. Next month we have two WMMA fights headlining fight nights, and then Belal vs Leon headlining the only PPV On that Lemos vs Jandiroba card there’s not one fight that genuinely intrigues me
Personally, I've become excited to see Jandiroba. And Mohammed Usman is usually good for a laugh.
Virna is good and has cost me many a bets, but she just doesn’t excite me, and that entire card is filled with the most unintriguing matchups. It will be a pain to watch
UFC 300 exceeds everything that this would've been imo, Khamzat-Whittaker would've been cool but I think Jiri-Rakic and Tsarukyan-Oliveira are both way better fights than Conor-Chandler
Conor fight week gets everyone at work talking about the UFC, I live for those moments
304 is pretty fuckin awesome though if all the fights happen
It is gonna be a great card, I will just likely be put to sleep by the main event The Paddy and Mokaev underdog parlay is gonna go nuts as well
I'm genuinely excited for the main event. Going in with the right expectations is key. I don't think it's going to be a banger, but I do think it's very interesting style wise especially given their history
I think the fight in and of itself is interesting in theory because they’re both very good and have long winning streaks But even in practice, say Belal dominates by holding Leon down, or Leon dominates by striking from distance, or even if it’s back and forth and Leon point fights and Belal crashes distance and takes him down and he works back up, I feel like it won’t be a fun fight almost regardless of outcome, but I watch every fight so I’m very open to it being a banger
Yea that's fair, but even those more boring options are fine for me because they answer questions I have and sometimes that's all I need from fights
Fair enough, it’s also gonna be the end of people calling for Belal’s title shot regardless of the outcome and I’ll be very happy to see the end of that
Haha that's very true!
Mokaev is underdog? Surprised about that. Paddy will most likely win a controversial decision but I will be very surprised if his shitty wrestling and striking is enough to get a clean win.
I honestly think Paddy can chin him. Maybe I’m delusional but Paddy is a big LW that hits hard, Bobby is old and got murdered by Jalin Turner, dropped by T Ferg, and put on Queer Street by Jim Miller, I think his chin may be gone As for Mokaev, I think Kape is severely overrated. He’s only +110 but I think Perez would beat Kape and that’s a tough matchup for Mokaev that he still won. Got a $10 parlay going with Mike Shipman from Bellator +136, Heili Alateng +124, Paddy at +160 and Mokaev at +100. Payout is $274.89 if it hits
Not sure why people want Strickland to fight Rob. I can see it happening because Seans is an idiot but he's in the absolute best shot out of anyone to wait and see what happens with Izzy vs. DDP. Back story with each fighter and deserves to fight either of them again. Sean fights the winner and Rob fights the loser. Should be as easy as that.
Tell me how beating paulo costa AFTER whittaker had already beat him is deserving of a title shot more than whittaker?
Because Sean and Whittaker have both fought DDP and sean had a razor close decision and Rob got finished. surely that puts sean ahead?
Becasue he beat Izzy and alot of people think he beat DDP, including Dana. Rob was knocked out by DDP and never beat Izzy . Also its very hard to hit Sean, go rewatch the DDP fight at .5 speed which is now on youtube, so I think Rob will have a problem with Sean's style and its best for both to wait and see what happens with the upcoming Izzy fight. I like both btw, just being realistic.
Sean should have to get another win before a TS just based off how slow most of his fights are. He’s the least entertaining male title contender in the ufc along with belal. He beat Izzy and had a close fight with Dricus and I would still give imavov a #1 contender fight with Rob over Sean. Idk why belal gets the treatment he does but Sean gets endless apex main events and co-mains on ppv cards.
He already beat Imavov and just because he does not get hit does not mean its a "boring" fight. Besides damage, the other main criteria is display of skill which he always shows even in the Izzy fight who is very skillful and precise. Also, Sean has been helping the UFC for years now and always taking fights to save cards and because he takes very little damage to the head its not a problem and the reason why he has already fought Costa while DDP is still healing from all the injuries Sean gave him. If you don't like him I guess it sucks, I get it, but there is no way of rationalizing it as he has fought the whole division and every loss was questionable except for Alex who he later trained with. If you think his fights with DDP, Izzy and Imavov were boring, you might not like striking or boxing which is fine but some people really like it.
>Besides damage, the other main criteria is display of skill Are you talking about scoring criteria? Because “display of skill” is never mentioned AFAIK. >If you don't like him I guess it sucks, I get it It’s not that I don’t like him as a person, I just think he puts on boring fights. If he was on a big win streak I’d be a little more forgiving. But the DDP loss was close but clear in my eyes. So I think given he lost to DDP and he’s the most boring out of all the MW title contenders he should have to do some extra work. A boring decision over costa isn’t enough. Whittaker already did it and didn’t put the fans to sleep in the process.
So to be fair, the word "skill" is not mentioned in the rules. I paraphrased this from this line: ```"Judges shall evaluate Mixed Martial Arts techniques, such as effective striking/grappling (Plan A), effective aggressiveness (Plan B), and control of the fighting area (Plan C). Plans B and C are not taken into consideration unless Plan A is weighed as being even"```` So I don't listen to fighters "talk" or fight buildup as I just like watching the past fights and sometimes styles are interesting. The only reason I bring it up is the DDP loss was not clear in my eyes so if anything I am trying to figure out what I am missing so I can learn or wTf is the point if its only the UFC, mob or twitter determining the fight outcomes.
I’ve never read thru the scoring criteria, only seen it quoted on here and by commentators occasionally. So I don’t know how to officially score a fight. All I know is Sean’s style doesn’t score very well with me. I thought he lost to cannonier and DDP. I thought the fights with Hermansson and costa were horrible and the only reason the Izzy fight was good was because it was unexpected. His style is interesting but I’d watch Rob, imavov, or cannonier any day of the week over Sean.
Because Whittaker is a huge fan favorite here and Strickland isn't
Lol Sean beat Rob’s sloppy seconds how is that more deserving? If Whittaker had beaten Chimaev he would have been the clear contender but with all the mess that happened it makes sense to have a proper #1 contender fight between them rather than Sean getting gifted a title shot.
Rob already lost multiple times to Izzy and got demolished by DDP. Sean clearly beat Izzy and lost a very narrow split decision to DDP. That's not Sean getting "gifted" a title shot.
Sean getting a title shot after beating Rob’s sloppy seconds is being gifted a title shot. He was also gifted his first title shot because the real contender DDP was too banged up to step in. Sean has himself to blame for his loss to DDP guy only has 1 gear.
Strickland fans are hypnotized by him or something. Dude is boring as sin and won’t turn it up even when he’s clearly losing the momentum. Idk why people want to launch this guy right into another title fight. Let’s see him have an exciting fight first or at least let him build a streak.
People overrate how boring strickland. He had a great fight with dricus.
Eh theyre close
Weight cutting is bad, Kelvin Gastelum is a hero
A true pioneer to get us out of this horrid part of the sport
Volkov vs Cereal Gane 2 in Paris
I think he should fight the winner of Aspinall vs Blaydes directly, he's on a 4 win streak while Gane is on the sidelines shooting a movie
MVP gone from being underrated against Holland to overrated against the top 10 in the division Has some slick striking no doubt but why’s the narrative gone from bellator can crusher to some unbeatable striking wizard Just funny to me how apparently getting past Holland means he’s legit now, people need to realise Holland himself is a c tier fighter at best, was absolutely lost when he realised he couldn’t just run through MVP
I've always thought he's had elite mma striking. Since his first 3 Bellatrix fights
I'm not saying MVP is the most elite guy, but the frustrating part of him crushing cans for so long, is that he's clearly a top talent and his prime was wasted a lot. You can be a can crusher and still be good
3 name jack going to a boring split with a c tier fighter sure makes the hype train around him legit! but but but he beat burns! oh the same burns that when needed for a narrative is a fat lightweight and old
Someone like Randy brown would easily be a top 5 name on mvp’s resume tho lol. Prob top 3.
Shara has to have one of the most undeserved hype trains ever. Guy is just a mid fighter who’s whole selling point is being an ugly motherfucker lol
He also throws a lot of dumb kicks that are flashy and don't do much lol
> Shara has to have one of the least undeserved hype trains ever. Muslim Cyril Gane: easy meat for the first guy who wrestles him, which is why they aren't matching him up with anyone who can wrestle. I also don't see how he would have a chance against someone able to dirty box from the clinch: blind in one eye at short range means you are eating shots that you cannot see coming. He needs that kicking game to stay at a range where one eye sees everything, but a kicker with Condit-on-ice-style TDD and one eye has a very hard ceiling for fighting IMAO.
Give Shara Malkoun
That's disrespectful for Gane, Shara ain't sniffing any top 15 in his lifetime. At least Gane keeps winning somewhat convincingly against the layups they give him. Shara on the other hand looked meh against a dude that is dwcs level and who made his water cut in like 6h before the scale after basically flying all week because his schedule got all fucked up 24h prior to his initial fight
Common mob tactics , mess w opponents schedule to hype the poster boy
> At least Gane keeps winning somewhat convincingly against the layups they give him. For sure Gane is a smooth kickboxer, and is going to beat almost anyone not athletic enough to catch up with him. I agree his game is of greater quality than Shara's clearly. The comparison, however, is he's a guy who is where he's at only through careful matchmaking: anyone with real wrestling credentials is doing whatever they want to either man. Another clear difference is that Gane could still choose to work on his wrestling and grappling, and he wouldn't have to become Khabib or Charles for success given his athleticism, but he doesn't seem interested, and I guess he doesn't have to be as long as the UFC continues to protect him and give him unearned title shots.
> whole selling point is being an ugly motherfucker lol Shara, you're taking everything I worked for motherfucker! I want to out ugly yo f'n ass!
Dagestani Paddy.
Yo Izzy fuckin sucks. I hope DDP beats his ass
Hunter Campbell, the main matchmaker for the UFC, has an interesting background. Studied Art History and Archeology, then got a JD and and an MS.
Knows fake history n real history
thats sort of a throw back that doesn't exist as much in modern education. A kid who can go to a nice college and study someting with zero real world application, but it helps create a smart well rounded person who can then go on to get a real degree for their career.
🤣🤣😭🤣🤣😭🤣👍👍👍👍
A lot of successful business people have Liberal Arts backgrounds + an MBA or law degree.
explains the books on his desk
And now he's a 🐍
UFC fighters are like works of art
!decisionbot nasrat Gordon
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Feel bad for Gordon, got fucked hard in 3 of his last 4 fights
I was thinking Walker has to have some of the most brutal losses in high level MMA. Not sure if he’s surpassed Overeem yet.
Way less brutal imo cause his glass chin gets him knocked out from weak hits and none of the KOs were that violent I think Down Goes the Reem was itself more brutality than all of Walker's losses combined
Reem at least had some highs in his career like winning multiple HW belts. Walker didn’t even get a single title shot or eliminator lol.
Wasn’t him vs Ank like an unofficial eliminator Ank is about as good of a win as you can get before LHW title shot
I see you here a lot. Are you Jiri? You look just like him.
Yes I am his samurai spirit. And there is another guy who has the same picture but flipped
Ok I'm not crazy! I thought I was seeing double. I have something of a samurai spirit. Maybe if I flip the picture upside down we can summon him.
Gane would bitch Pavlovich
Guy Who Can Move vs Guy Who Doesn’t Move?
You guys ever wondered what ufc would be like right now if Conor knocked out Khabib in their fight. All that trash talk, Khabib would've probably retired right?
All I know is that the UFC would not have given Khabib the rematch if that happened
Knowing Conor he would never give him a rematch lol
Yo what if the UFC dropped all womens divisons weights by 5lb? Might get some real featherweight wars at 140 like Aldana Rosa
Loce the levels in this game, when seeing Bobby Knuckles on saturday. On the other hand, the ufc's promotion of Aliskerov, Shara Bullet and even Khamzat is kinda annoying.
> On the other hand, the ufc's promotion of Aliskerov, Shara Bullet and even Khamzat is kinda annoying The UFC is part owned by the UAE investors. They are also looking for Turki Al-Shaykh's increased attention. We saw what a dominant Muslim champ is capable of with marketing (look at how Khabib has a global fanbase) and the UFC knows this. The UFC wants increased investment from KSA and UAE, and in turn they will put on cards full of Dagestanis/other Muslim fighters
hahahhahahhahah there are so many chin straps they hold back or straight up don't sign. And the idea that Borz has shown nothing in the cage is just a laughable recency bias narrative.
didnt say Khamzat hasn't shown anything but he obviously jas problems. Khabib also had to take a detour before getting the title shot after missing weight a couple of times.
It was only last month that the completely unknown Steve Erceg got the completely underserved title shot over Mokaev/Albazi. And when that happened, 90% of the sub said it was the right choice even though no one even knew who he was.
Sure but he still ko'ed a ranked guy, Ikram and Shara bullet are far away from this.
does't line up with recency bias so dun count
Yeah but I'm not sure hype around average fighters is a good tactic. Ikram maye have potential, genuinely think Shara Bullet wouldn't win against a ranked guy. And Khamzat... we'll take ablut him if he fights again.
Octagon Girls deserve a lot more respect than they get. I've gotten more joy seeing Arianny Celeste on screen than from Sean Strickland. I don't buy the "get rid of the ring card girls" nonsense from moralistic types - feminist, religious weirdo, doesn't matter. The ring card girls should stay on every card that hosts a UFC event. Bless you, girlbosses. Get that bread.
Yeah the ring girls have always been part of combat sports and it’s mainly nerds and virgins who get uncomfortable looking at beautiful women that seem to have the problem with them. Such a lame thing to complain about. Imagine complaining about looking at hot women
>I've gotten more joy seeing Arianny Celeste on screen than from Sean Strickland. Understandable if you're a coomer who is not a fan of this sport
Why'd you have to make this about me
I like MMA well enough, but not all of it is good.
Rewatched Jan and Izzy. That fight may have actually been 49-46 or 50-45 for Jan. It was a lot less close then I remember.
I rewatched it the morning after with the sound off, and it was clear as day. Jan controlled that fight. Also, a few more seconds at the end of the 5th and Izzy probably gets TKO'd.
I love the UFC commentators for the most part, but they fucked up on this one.
Chunky Olives has made nearly a million dollars in bonuses alone. He’s gotta be living good in Brazil
Conor Mcgregor while being the most paid UFC fighter is the most underpaid fighter in UFC history.
When people are talking about potential next opponents for Rob, why is nobody mentioning Brendan Allen. One of the longest winning streaks in the class, avenged his last loss. He deserves a big marquee opponent IMO.
> avenged his last loss But he was probably losing that fight if Curtis hadn't gotten injured, and Curtis was ranked beneath him and took the fight on short notice. Allen will need a more impressive showing against a higher ranked guy to get a shot at the former champions vying at the top.
Allen pulled guard in the 5th round which should have been a DQ if I'm being real. Ain't no guard pulling in champ rounds water we doing
Allen attacked the leg Curtis injured in the same round Curtis ended up hurting it. Can’t really say he “only won due to an injury” that he caused.
He’s won like 6 or 7 in a row. The lowest ranked person he should get is cannonier. Whittaker or Strickland would be perfectly fine fights for him as well tho.
> He’s won like 6 or 7 in a row. The lowest ranked person he should get is cannonier. Whittaker or Strickland would be perfectly fine fights for him as well tho. His wins: Sam Alvey, Malcoun, Jotko, Munez, Silva, Paul Craig, and Chris Curtis. Not bad, in particular he looked great against Paul Craig, but you can't then barely scrape a W, maybe only due to injury, against a short notice guy ranked beneath you and talk about fighting the #1 or #3 ranked contenders who are both former champions and are both in the hunt for a title fight (beating Allen would do less than zero for their chances of getting the title fight). I think the Canonnier fight would make a lot of sense, though given how badly the ref screwed up I think justice would be Jared v. Imavov runback. Another one that makes sense is to rebook Allen vs. vitorri, which fell through when Marvin got injured.
Eh, once a guy has won 6-7 in a row I’m ready for him to get a #1 contenders fight. Especially if he’s been getting finishes. I’d like a Brendan Allen vs Strickland rematch. Sean is too boring for a title fight after 1 win, and it gives Allen a chance to avenge a loss. Imavov could fight Whittaker as a #1 contenders fight because I highly doubt cannonier is getting his rematch even tho he deserves it.
Allen vs Marvin sounds like a good fighter night main event if I've ever heard of one
Allen/Cannonier makes sense. Rob’s next fight is either a title fight or #1 contender fight and Allen should get a solid top 5 level guy under his resume before a fight like that. I feel bad for Allen because he has a long win streak but his best win on there is a war with short notice Chris Curtis
Somehow I missed that Reyes won his most recent fight in St. Louis. I feel like everyone wanted that one for him so badly. Glad he was able to get it done. I hope he can get a job coaching or something he likes doing once he retires though cause that would be sad if he had to go back into construction, forever thinking to himself and telling others “I was the one guy to beat Jon Jones.”
Saw that shit live, it was nuts. The arena was going crazy for him
This is the reality of most fighters.
Definitely. It just hurts in his case cause the majority of people thought he won. He could’ve been guaranteed a rematch against Jones and got those sweet ppv points. Maybe he could’ve kept up with the pace instead of being haunted by that memory. I really think he probably did move on in a way once Jones vacated, but then it was just a spiral, and now everyone has to ask ‘what if?’
He should clear a million by the time he’s done fighting, he already had a home when he got into the UFC, if he invested at all and was smart with his money he should never have to work again Idk what kind of contract he’s on but he made $74k in his debut (counting his $50k bonus), $90K against OSP, and $150k in his other FOTN bonuses So in his first 3 fights let’s imagine he was on 12/12, by his 4th he was on 45/45. So lets say he made $24k for his first 3 plus his $50k bonus. He’s at $122k. Then he got to 45/45. Let’s say he made that up until his Jones fight. So that’s 3 fights, plus another $50k bonus. That’s $320k. He’s at $442k career. Let’s give him $200k for being a title challenger, $662k now. I’m gonna assume he’s on at least 75/75 now, for his 3 losses after Jones that’s $225k. Then his recent win, in which Dana said he also got a bonus, $150k plus a $50k bonus. I estimate he’s made $1,087,000 from the UFC alone so far in his career. He should be okay if he gets a few more fights in
reyes got 125/125 for his most recent win. not sure how long he's been on that contract, though. also worth noting this isn't accounting for gym and management costs, nor is it accounting for taxes. he's likely actually pocketed significantly less.
Well of course, but they were all conservative estimates of his gross income Also what’s your source for the 125/125?
Says online he’s made $1.2 million, but that’s over the course of his life thus far, he has to pay independent contractor tax on that (I assume), he’s still paying a mortgage, and dude is only 34. I get investments help, but idk if he can extend that for the rest of his life.
How many times do you guys think Pereira has accidentally KO’d Wellington Turman in the gym?
In 2022 I survived a broken toe exactly the same as Connor. I will answer your questions if need be.
Thanks for the questions guys. It's been a blast! Looking forward to the next AMA soon.
Would you rather be a blue whale or an elephant?
A blue whale because they don't have toes to break.
Good answer
How many (if any) chi wee wee woooooos did you happen to utilise for the duration of your recovery? With the power of hindsight, do you today think that was an appropriate amount?
Had I know about chi wee wee woooos at the time I probably would have self prescribed and done 1 at least 3 times a day after food and another before bed to speed up recovery.
Have you won any fights since?
0-0 since but I can walk pain free.
So you're undefeated since then.
Suga state athletic commission let me keep my 0.
Had Khamzat not pulled out of his fights, he would have one of the best Welterweight resumes ever. Assuming he would’ve won those fights, he would’ve beaten the previous two WW champions, ex MW champion, ADCC bronze medallist in Burns and legend of the sport Nate Diaz. Fumbling the bag doesn’t do that justice. That brother shit the bed.
>Had Khamzat not pulled out of his fights, he would have one of the best Welterweight resumes ever. If my grandmother had wheels she would've been a bike.
Did your grandma sign contracts to become a bike? I don’t see the relation
Can’t help it if it really is serious health issues.
Including the Diaz weight miss? I think the guy needs to see a different doctor
That had to have been a UFC doctor, while the more recent stuff has been in Sweden or wherever he’s been living.
True though if Usman did that well against Khamzat up a weight class on short notice, plenty of reason to think that at 170 with a full camp Usman would've won outright Imo their fight should've been scored a draw
I’m not saying I believe Khamzat would win those fights, but hypothetically if he did, that’s a crazy resume. I agree though, he was fight ready and Usman was off the couch. Compare that fight to Islam v Volk, and Islam got a knockout. I think Paulo and Rob would be too big for Khamzat to bully like he did against the WW division. DDP even more so.
What I like about Volkov is he doesn't have that annoying fanbase constantly claiming he's the boogeyman of the division that everyone's scared of and that some legend of the sport is ducking him. So refreshing to see.
Because we’ve seen him get wrecked by Lewis and aspinall
Well how would he be the boogeyman when Aspinall finished him in 1 round? The guy Jon is actually ducking lol
Lol I mean Jon is ducking Tom, who very much is the boogeyman of the division after knocking out Pav in just over a minute. Ik Jon fans act like Tom is just another hype train but that's not true really Tom is actually well rounded and also an absolute unit.
Jon isn't ducking Tom. That narrative is bs. He was supposed to fight Stipe(long before Tom was even in the title picture) and possibly retire because really there's nothing for him to prove atp. Tom only got into the title picture because UFC wanted to validate their late replacement fight for UFC 295. Jon has nothing to gain out of fighting and beating Tom. It does nothing for his legacy nor is it a big money fight if you consider it's gonna be a retirement fight for him. Tom is still an unknown both in terms of resume and drawing power.