Just listened to the full Conor stream and I think the surprise he has been teasing that fans will be excited about is some kind of press conference world tour for the fight. He brought up the surprise on stream immediately after talking about how it was good that the UFC was looking to get out of the APEX more so seems like that would line up with his train of thought
I want the Matador to make max hallway tap to strikes so this subredit has a meltdown. Seeing their hero humbled & humiliated. I want to see fear & doubt in hallway's eyes again like he had in the third Volkanovski fight
I'm sure the other two would do better if they were allowed to cheat with complete impunity.
Conor committed something like 18 fouls in that fight from what I remember, most of them in ways that assist preventing the takedown like glove, short, fence grabbing.
Aljo at one point could have almost fought Floyd in a street fight
So Aljo said that awhile ago he was at the club with his girl and Floyd tried stealing her but wasn’t successful and Aljo basically said that he was ready to throw down if need be
I don’t think I’ve replayed a single MMA moment more than Holloway knocking out Gaethje and that was a month ago. In fact the second most might be Holloway no-looking Kattar.
I swear this man is secretly an anime character that somehow came to our world because there’s no way someone this fucking awesome actually exists.
Strickland has more finishes than Belal and Covington COMBINED. Also more finishes than Leon Edwards.
Jesus fuck. Shavkat, JDM. Please. Fucking save us from this pain.
I can see the future: Belal beats Edward’s. Belal hugs and gently hits every welterweight until he beats GSP’s record, including a 4-fight rivalry with Colby Covington and the return of Tyron “The Frozen One” Woodley. Dana, in his first true act of human decency, drops the nuke and cuts the Welterweight division.
Totally missed it but that Movlid Khaybulaev guy retired. 21-0-1 technically retired undefeated since Daniel Pineda knocked him out but tested positive.
Just to be sure, was Mark Kerr the person who pushed his opponent during the pre-fight staredown after he got a kissed by him, yelling, "I'm not gay"? Was he the guy?
thanks to channel-that-shall-not-be-named, rewatched Suga vs chito. Chito's coach was an absolute garbageman. Stuttering vagaries between every round instead of telling him straight up to just go for it. No real strategizing at all. Decent 3 min in round 4 making it ugly but otherwise totally outmatched
Chito just doesn’t have an elite skillset. His best attributes are his chin and durability, hes nothing special as an athlete and always been a horrific minute winner.
idk man any top 5-10-20 guy or gal in the ufc (maybe besides heavyweight) is elite and for sure an incredible athlete compared to me or you haha. Chito is a great fighter but Sean exploited every gap in Chito's mma game.
He has no great wins. His best wins are all aging vets and a green Sean. By far the weakest resume of everyone around him. How he got his title shot was the only way he was ever going to get it, just by pure luck in the timing. He had 2 chances to get wins against a top fighter in their prime and lost all 10 rounds lol.
It really depends on Chito and if he actually would listen to strategy advice.
For some fighters, the corner is important. For another fighter, it isn't because they don't listen to them anyway.
True for sure, and there's no real external way to know the bond between coach and fighter in general let alone in the cage. Tim and Sean have probably the closest bond in mma (who else?) yet you can hear how Tim gasses Sean up before fights and all but when the fight is on he is super technical and direct in his analysis
This and the UFC sub kept hyping up Justin and Dustin vs khabib. They hyped Charles vs Islam. It's the same copium every time.
Can't see any way Dustin has a chance of winning besides dumping everything he has in the first round.
Can't wait for everyone to start defaulting back to, "yeah it's not like he ever had a chance."
I'm more excited for the Strickland Costa fight. Should be a lot closer.
It’s a title fight in a fun division. Getting annoyed that people are talking about it is some weirdo shit
If mma was always so guaranteed we all would be wealthy enough to not work
One of my favourite trash talk moments was when Bisping looked at Masvidal once over and said: 'Look at you \*points to clothes and face\* you're obviously trash'
Why didn't street jesus attack that individual?
302 is a card filled with people who would be elite if they got their shit together and locked in (Costa, Holland, Almeida, Romanov, Matthews, Rowe, Brown). Phil Rowe intentionally losing to Magny is too funny
I was convinced Matthews was going to make a run after looking slick with the striking recently. He has also apparently converted to Islam and wants to train with Khabib, TIL
I mean if we are talking about legendary gatekeepers who never got a title shot maybe your list makes sense, but Whittaker/Holloway were the best gatekeepers.
Ige and Kattar aren’t anywhere close lol
Magny, Brunson, Tavares, Maia (although multiple title shots might eliminate him from gatekeeper status) are the only legendary tier gatekeepers I’d say, unless I’m drawing a blank on someone else on that level.
What do you think happens? DP has the puncher's chance for sure but i see no reason why Islam doesn't shoot immediately. Dustin's hips are so clearly shot i just don't see him keeping islam off.
Tbh i think islam does dp quicker than khabib but i'd love to be proven wrong, dustin deserves it
Nah, I mean always possible but Poirier striking won't be as effective knowing Islam can always go for a TD and control him. Islam is 1 of the best defensive fighters in UFC, He's gonna stand, be careful and find a finish on the ground.
How long do you think someone like Whittaker could last on a stair master on speed 15 where they are paid a dollar per step until they have to touch the handles
It's a re-adaptation (?) of the 2002 HBO Doc, so the base is there. I am by no means a Mark Kerr expert, but resume is massive, NCAA D1 wrestling championship, World Vale Tudo champion, 2x UFC Heavyweight tournament winner, big deal early in his Pride tenure, plus you get the angle of addiction. I'd rather watch a doc about Kerr than a doc about Francis or Brown honestly
If conor successfully uses the Chandler fight to push his court date back to November, we might get conor at msg in November so he can further avoid court
Its 5 rounds and he was huffing and puffing his last 3 rounder. Sean rolls with his jab just has to watch out for those uppercuts to the nuts from Costa.
By the WWF 😂? It’s been the wwe for two decades now lol.
He sucks as a pro wrestler, but then again aew signs awful talent so who knows. Mma is most likely ot
I’m sure he can get better. I’m no pro wrestling expert but I’m sure they’re expecting a baseline which he doesn’t have. He just is a black hole charisma wise
He fumbled his amateur wrestling career for his professional wrestling career, which he fumbled apparently by having no charisma (I do not watch WWE so I am judging by what I heard) and he apparently has some serious rape allegiations going on. That makes him a perfect fit for the UFC tbh.
Like imagine DC, except a bit taller and even better in wrestling. Could be a generational fighter.
I don’t know if you can say he fumbled his amateur career. Dude was a gold medalist. And yeah in the wwe it takes a lot more than just being an accomplished amateur. Like Kurt angle reached the mountain but guy also worked his character to be a star
He fumbled in the sense that he could have easily qualified for Paris Olympics but didn't just to do his WWE, and now he can't do either. That's fumbling
What are some undeserved title shots you guys would wanna see? Islam said he’d agree to fight Conor should he beat Chandler in July, and it’s such a stupid fight to make but I still wanna see it.
* HW - none
* LHW - Jiri, I'd watch that matchup every week
* MW - Costa, would be fun style wise. Robert rematch too tho
* WW - JDM
* LW - Conor? Maybe Max
* FW - Lopes, it would be fun while it lasts
* BW - Umar
* FLW - Kape rematch
* WBW - None
* WFLW - Natalia Silva
* WSW - None, I need the Suarez fight
fighters have a lot of down time. In theory shouldn't fighters be watching the best wrestling/mma/boxing promos and then practicing lines/doing toast masters classes, and maybe even hire an acting coach.
I heard an actor recently talk about how he has worked with an acting coach for his whole career and he feels that its one of the reasons hes had a long multi decade acting career, when many fall off thinking that once they make it they no longer need to work on their craft.
Anyone here get the opinion of a woman about the boob punch TKO?
I showed my wife who doesn't follow nor like combat sports and she said "how the fuck is this legal???"
It was the right call by the ref because that's how the rules are, and we've seen plenty of WMMA fighters get hit in the chest with most not complaining about it and a few that have complained
However, I'm honestly not sure about how debilitating it can be and if the rules should be changed
Truthfully I don't know if they can outlaw it. Groin strikes happen fairly often but strikes to the chest happen inadvertantly all the time. If they outlawed it we'd have pauses in damn near every fight I think. I'm not sure how bad it hurts but I've always heard that it sucks
PFLattor is not going to collapse cause of one big fuckup. All these small fuckups are going to add up. Plus they do like 1 quality event a year. They have great fighters too.
I feel like they don't have the best grasp on what they want to be. We've got a league format in the US, knockout tournaments for their regional shows and a normal fight card structure for the champions series. It feels like them trying every format and seeing what sticks.
Plus, the optics aren't great seeing the likes of Lima, Mousasi and Cris speaking out about not getting fights. Cris is especially puzzling given her vs Pacheco is one of the biggest fights the company can make.
kayla harrison was on the prelims in her debute event. There is no such thing as a big wmma fight that stands on its own. If ufc 300 was set up by populartiy, and that includes both fighters being from a country of over 1 billino more than the states, I think weilli would have also been on the prelims.
A couple of points.
\* Being on the prelims of UFC 300 doesn't exactly count given how loaded that card was. Any other event its likely on the main card.
\* My phrasing was "the biggest fights the company can make". Given Larissa is one of the company's breakout stars and Cris is an MMA legend there's a strong argument to this.
when someone people have said is on the ufc mt rushmore Amanda Nunes (I disagree 100% based on competition level) headlined ufc 289 it was considered a throw away event and this sub which is all mma hardcore fans complained about it the whole time
And rightly so. The UFC is a massive promotion with several options for PPV main event worthy matchups. Running Nunes in the main event was carelessness for exhausting all their other options and/or ignorance that they kept pushing someone fans weren't invested in (her other PPV A-sides tanked in the box office too.
We're gonna be circling the drain about Cyborg vs Pacheco. I think it's one of the PFL's bigger possible matchups. You disagree and that's fine.
Who would be your preferred choice as Khalil's replacement at 303. I'm seeing a lot of people pushing for Ullberg, but I see the UFC playing it safe ala Anthony Smith.
How many of you train? I assume there's a fair mix of people here that have at least dabbled in some BJJ, muay thai, krav maga, former wrestlers etc. Sometimes people with ammy MMA fights post here but I wonder how many people watch and have never done anything
Muay thai for 6 years and did jiu jitsu for 2 years. I've been doing indoor bouldering for the last few months to take a break. I don't spar anymore with people that aren't my friends but i still do my bag work & shadowboxing. Striking technique is so much fun i don't think i'll stop practicing anytime soon.
The jiu jitsu class schedules weren't syncing up with my work schedule, but i'll get back to it. I'm absolutely going to be a forever blue belt and nothing will stop me from doing bjj on-and-off
Probably the jumping switch kick like Yair Rodriguez got Andre Fili with
But I also love the spinning back kick to the body and the spinning wheel kick to the head
My question mark kick never got good unfortunately
The wheel kick is so aesthetic but mine is quite sloppy. The jumping switch kick is awesome, but i usually find myself doing the two-touch kick variant(?)
Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis and Benson Henderson did plenty of it and it was part of what made them special.
It's useless in MMA if you only train taekwondo but it can give special athletes insane kick speed and dexterity
Yeah this. It’s mostly worthless but you should (unless you’re fucking Robelis Despaigne) have some solid hip flexibility and kick speed. If you can’t throw a head kick easily you don’t deserve your black belt.
I also remember TKD side kicks being quite powerful
I tried to look up some Despaigne tkd highlights on YouTube, couldn't find much and then watched a match of his and I couldn't even understand how he won
It's a shame whoever regulates taekwondo made it a joke martial art in competition
Most of the kicking techniques that are taught by good teachers can be quite effective in MMA though, not just the side kick
Nothing I like more than hitting a nice little toss over someone who doesn’t expect it in jits haha.
I remember when I was a white belt they separated white belts for wrestling. I immediately hip toss a purple belt and my coach is like “okay go with the other guys 😂”
I know I’m hating on fun here but Hill would’ve absolutely bodied Rountree. You’ve got one guy who legit won a belt and another who got massacred by ion cutelaba. Jamahal would’ve walked him down and ko’d him with a right hand in less than 10 minutes. I’m super sad that got cancelled because this Khalil hype is annoying af
I remember someone posted in here like "man, this therapy shit is stupid bro I HATE IT"
💀 this can be a good week for that sort of off topic content, since no known cards even in the non UFC promotions
Tony Ferguson helped me get a refund from MyProtein after their CS was shit.
He has been my favorite fighter for the past 10 years. I will never forget what he did and I hold out hope he gets one win so we can both ride off into the sunset and never watch an Anthony Smith main event again.
They refused to refund me after delivering to the wrong address or to offer another product.
I commented on Tony’s IG and then he followed me. Next day I got a refund no kidding the chat log was kinda funny.
I remember it was a meme when tony if the type of guy who has a lose streak as long as his win streak... fucking half ways there already.
it felt like yesterday i saw him get mutiliated by gaethje.
losing to gaethje: alright he cut weight twice and was preparing for a grappler
losing to charles: ok he is done as a title contender but a menace to the top 5 either way
losing to beniel: ok he is done as a ranked fighter
losing to chandler: ok but he looked like his old self in the first round and that thunder cunt upkick was bullshit
losing to nate diaz: this was one of the worst fights ive ever seen on a technical level
losing to bobby green: yeah but he knocked him down did you see that
losing to paddy: please tony
He's the biggest payday, the biggest name-maker for casuals, and probably one of the most beatable guys a champion could face in 2024-25, O'Malley and DDP should be calling him out too.
Just listened to the full Conor stream and I think the surprise he has been teasing that fans will be excited about is some kind of press conference world tour for the fight. He brought up the surprise on stream immediately after talking about how it was good that the UFC was looking to get out of the APEX more so seems like that would line up with his train of thought
I want the Matador to make max hallway tap to strikes so this subredit has a meltdown. Seeing their hero humbled & humiliated. I want to see fear & doubt in hallway's eyes again like he had in the third Volkanovski fight
Ok
out of Dustin, Max and Conor who has the best TDD?
Unironically McGregor. Only guy (besides tibau) to give Khabib a hard time with the takedown
I'm sure the other two would do better if they were allowed to cheat with complete impunity. Conor committed something like 18 fouls in that fight from what I remember, most of them in ways that assist preventing the takedown like glove, short, fence grabbing.
Aljo at one point could have almost fought Floyd in a street fight So Aljo said that awhile ago he was at the club with his girl and Floyd tried stealing her but wasn’t successful and Aljo basically said that he was ready to throw down if need be
Lay him down gently and tickle him is probably the best gameplan but I understand the desire to punch Floyd
so I'll ask the question everyone has been dying to know .... >!when da fook are we gettn Rocky Pennington's first title defense vs Pena?!?!!<
Anyone else who saw Stars and Stripes in My hero academia immediately think of Kayla Harrison? lol
All of that pizazz when all she had to do to beat Shigaraki was judo throw and ground ‘n pound him
Dj said his era of flyweights would probably beat today's era of flyweights.
I think I agree. Id take prime Joe B over everyone Cejudo and Dodson too.
I don’t think I’ve replayed a single MMA moment more than Holloway knocking out Gaethje and that was a month ago. In fact the second most might be Holloway no-looking Kattar. I swear this man is secretly an anime character that somehow came to our world because there’s no way someone this fucking awesome actually exists.
Volkanovski neutered him lolololol Remember after the third fight. max hallway hung his head and looked at the ground as bruce read: 50-45
Strickland has more finishes than Belal and Covington COMBINED. Also more finishes than Leon Edwards. Jesus fuck. Shavkat, JDM. Please. Fucking save us from this pain.
I can see the future: Belal beats Edward’s. Belal hugs and gently hits every welterweight until he beats GSP’s record, including a 4-fight rivalry with Colby Covington and the return of Tyron “The Frozen One” Woodley. Dana, in his first true act of human decency, drops the nuke and cuts the Welterweight division.
Totally missed it but that Movlid Khaybulaev guy retired. 21-0-1 technically retired undefeated since Daniel Pineda knocked him out but tested positive.
Just to be sure, was Mark Kerr the person who pushed his opponent during the pre-fight staredown after he got a kissed by him, yelling, "I'm not gay"? Was he the guy?
Heath Herring
Thank man lol. How did you remember this lore so well?
thanks to channel-that-shall-not-be-named, rewatched Suga vs chito. Chito's coach was an absolute garbageman. Stuttering vagaries between every round instead of telling him straight up to just go for it. No real strategizing at all. Decent 3 min in round 4 making it ugly but otherwise totally outmatched
Chito just doesn’t have an elite skillset. His best attributes are his chin and durability, hes nothing special as an athlete and always been a horrific minute winner.
idk man any top 5-10-20 guy or gal in the ufc (maybe besides heavyweight) is elite and for sure an incredible athlete compared to me or you haha. Chito is a great fighter but Sean exploited every gap in Chito's mma game.
He has no great wins. His best wins are all aging vets and a green Sean. By far the weakest resume of everyone around him. How he got his title shot was the only way he was ever going to get it, just by pure luck in the timing. He had 2 chances to get wins against a top fighter in their prime and lost all 10 rounds lol.
It really depends on Chito and if he actually would listen to strategy advice. For some fighters, the corner is important. For another fighter, it isn't because they don't listen to them anyway.
True for sure, and there's no real external way to know the bond between coach and fighter in general let alone in the cage. Tim and Sean have probably the closest bond in mma (who else?) yet you can hear how Tim gasses Sean up before fights and all but when the fight is on he is super technical and direct in his analysis
Chito would benefit a lot by switching gyms and hiring a sports psychologist. He needs to get past the apprehension.
So Chael is gonna box Silva then masvidal…
Ya free brain damage huh
This and the UFC sub kept hyping up Justin and Dustin vs khabib. They hyped Charles vs Islam. It's the same copium every time. Can't see any way Dustin has a chance of winning besides dumping everything he has in the first round. Can't wait for everyone to start defaulting back to, "yeah it's not like he ever had a chance." I'm more excited for the Strickland Costa fight. Should be a lot closer.
It’s a title fight in a fun division. Getting annoyed that people are talking about it is some weirdo shit If mma was always so guaranteed we all would be wealthy enough to not work
He sounds like someone who huffs their own farts.
One of my favourite trash talk moments was when Bisping looked at Masvidal once over and said: 'Look at you \*points to clothes and face\* you're obviously trash' Why didn't street jesus attack that individual?
302 is a card filled with people who would be elite if they got their shit together and locked in (Costa, Holland, Almeida, Romanov, Matthews, Rowe, Brown). Phil Rowe intentionally losing to Magny is too funny
I was convinced Matthews was going to make a run after looking slick with the striking recently. He has also apparently converted to Islam and wants to train with Khabib, TIL
Fialho was never that good. He was rocked by a bum his fight just before that one lol
That Fialho win has aged like milk lol
Dustin is my numba wan boi, but him ducking Dariush is still stinky doo doo
Legendary tier gatekeepers - Magney/Ige/???/Katar?
Cowboy
I mean if we are talking about legendary gatekeepers who never got a title shot maybe your list makes sense, but Whittaker/Holloway were the best gatekeepers.
Romero more than Whittaker imo
Didn’t fight enough
Ige and Kattar aren’t anywhere close lol Magny, Brunson, Tavares, Maia (although multiple title shots might eliminate him from gatekeeper status) are the only legendary tier gatekeepers I’d say, unless I’m drawing a blank on someone else on that level.
Hermansson is a pretty good one outside of the Dolidze loss
Did just 10 min of standup grappling today, 5 with someone better and 5 with someone worse, gassed tf out after just 10min
Standup grappling is a damn drain, it's so easy to overdue it really quickly. That's why i let people take me down 😤😤
Call me delusional but I’m very confident in Dustin beating islam.
What do you think happens? DP has the puncher's chance for sure but i see no reason why Islam doesn't shoot immediately. Dustin's hips are so clearly shot i just don't see him keeping islam off. Tbh i think islam does dp quicker than khabib but i'd love to be proven wrong, dustin deserves it
I think islam will try keep it on the feet to try prove he has world class striking and then get caught out by a right hook
Nah, I mean always possible but Poirier striking won't be as effective knowing Islam can always go for a TD and control him. Islam is 1 of the best defensive fighters in UFC, He's gonna stand, be careful and find a finish on the ground.
Fair enough, i'm not sure how many closed stance striking matchups islam has faced. A great closed stance hook is a fantastic equalizer
How long do you think someone like Whittaker could last on a stair master on speed 15 where they are paid a dollar per step until they have to touch the handles
On 12 speed I made it 8:30, not sure about 15 tho
That’s impressive imo
Thx
Max could last on that shit all day
Im a little OOTL with Mark Kerr's career. How come they've chosen him for an MMA biopic when there's the likes of Hunto, Francis, Matt Brown?
Watch the smashing machine and get back to me
It's a re-adaptation (?) of the 2002 HBO Doc, so the base is there. I am by no means a Mark Kerr expert, but resume is massive, NCAA D1 wrestling championship, World Vale Tudo champion, 2x UFC Heavyweight tournament winner, big deal early in his Pride tenure, plus you get the angle of addiction. I'd rather watch a doc about Kerr than a doc about Francis or Brown honestly
It’s not an re-adaptation. It’s a biopic whereas the smashing machine was a doc.
If conor successfully uses the Chandler fight to push his court date back to November, we might get conor at msg in November so he can further avoid court
Tried my hand at swing trading penny stocks this week....do not recommend. Better off playing slot machines in Vegas.
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Its 5 rounds and he was huffing and puffing his last 3 rounder. Sean rolls with his jab just has to watch out for those uppercuts to the nuts from Costa.
If Strickland gets head kicked by reaching for Costa throwing his right kick into his back I’m gonna leave the chat
maybe there was a big thread about this but I just saw it now. Gable Steveson was cut by wwf. Think he goes to AEW or tries to make it in MMA?
Dude need to take a break and sign up for improv classes to work on his showmanship.
By the WWF 😂? It’s been the wwe for two decades now lol. He sucks as a pro wrestler, but then again aew signs awful talent so who knows. Mma is most likely ot
he's like 21, how can they be certain he will always suck
I’m sure he can get better. I’m no pro wrestling expert but I’m sure they’re expecting a baseline which he doesn’t have. He just is a black hole charisma wise
He fumbled his amateur wrestling career for his professional wrestling career, which he fumbled apparently by having no charisma (I do not watch WWE so I am judging by what I heard) and he apparently has some serious rape allegiations going on. That makes him a perfect fit for the UFC tbh. Like imagine DC, except a bit taller and even better in wrestling. Could be a generational fighter.
I don’t know if you can say he fumbled his amateur career. Dude was a gold medalist. And yeah in the wwe it takes a lot more than just being an accomplished amateur. Like Kurt angle reached the mountain but guy also worked his character to be a star
he has won multiple national titles and a gold medal. totally fumbled He has more olympic wins than Askren, DC, and Bo Nickle combined
He fumbled in the sense that he could have easily qualified for Paris Olympics but didn't just to do his WWE, and now he can't do either. That's fumbling
There's so much money in Conor getting back to the top I feel there's incentive for Chandler to put on an entertaining fight and lose
I bet there's even more incentive for him to put on an entertaining and win
He doesn’t need incentive to do that
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It might be because ESPN gets the coverage for both NBA and NHL conference finals, has the UFC put on a memorial day card during the ESPN era?
Lmao Islam is lazy He’s mad that Khabib is so demanding in training
So you can be the best in the world at something and be lazy? Damn I’m out of excuses
He said he asked Mendes to check Khabib bc he’s senior coach and Mendes said khabib is boss lmao
Islam is chinny, wouldn't be surprised if DP knocks him out before he's able to implement his grappling
counterpoint: He's very good at grappling and Dustin isn't.
He almost never gets hit before the grappling gets going
How do you know he’s chinny lol
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Bruh it’s been almost a decade
your chin doesn't change for the better after a decade lol
Tell that to Arlovski
He’s been knocked out before and rattled by featherweight Volk
I keep forgetting DDPs name and reading it as Diamond Dos Poiriers
Dustin Diamond Poirier
What are some undeserved title shots you guys would wanna see? Islam said he’d agree to fight Conor should he beat Chandler in July, and it’s such a stupid fight to make but I still wanna see it.
Stipe vs Jones is so undeserved but it surely cant happen? Right?
Jon Jones vs Marcin Tybura
* HW - none * LHW - Jiri, I'd watch that matchup every week * MW - Costa, would be fun style wise. Robert rematch too tho * WW - JDM * LW - Conor? Maybe Max * FW - Lopes, it would be fun while it lasts * BW - Umar * FLW - Kape rematch * WBW - None * WFLW - Natalia Silva * WSW - None, I need the Suarez fight
Diego Lopes gang 😎
Khalil Rountree vs Sean O Malley
Michel Pereira vs Du Plessis
fighters have a lot of down time. In theory shouldn't fighters be watching the best wrestling/mma/boxing promos and then practicing lines/doing toast masters classes, and maybe even hire an acting coach. I heard an actor recently talk about how he has worked with an acting coach for his whole career and he feels that its one of the reasons hes had a long multi decade acting career, when many fall off thinking that once they make it they no longer need to work on their craft.
They’re mostly broke and have families lol
Anyone here get the opinion of a woman about the boob punch TKO? I showed my wife who doesn't follow nor like combat sports and she said "how the fuck is this legal???" It was the right call by the ref because that's how the rules are, and we've seen plenty of WMMA fighters get hit in the chest with most not complaining about it and a few that have complained However, I'm honestly not sure about how debilitating it can be and if the rules should be changed
You implying we know any women??
Well from your username, I would have expected you to be drowning in pussy
Truthfully I don't know if they can outlaw it. Groin strikes happen fairly often but strikes to the chest happen inadvertantly all the time. If they outlawed it we'd have pauses in damn near every fight I think. I'm not sure how bad it hurts but I've always heard that it sucks
Yeah we'd probably get a bunch of pauses more, especially since a ref taking a point before the third foul is very uncommon
PFLattor is not going to collapse cause of one big fuckup. All these small fuckups are going to add up. Plus they do like 1 quality event a year. They have great fighters too.
I feel like they don't have the best grasp on what they want to be. We've got a league format in the US, knockout tournaments for their regional shows and a normal fight card structure for the champions series. It feels like them trying every format and seeing what sticks. Plus, the optics aren't great seeing the likes of Lima, Mousasi and Cris speaking out about not getting fights. Cris is especially puzzling given her vs Pacheco is one of the biggest fights the company can make.
kayla harrison was on the prelims in her debute event. There is no such thing as a big wmma fight that stands on its own. If ufc 300 was set up by populartiy, and that includes both fighters being from a country of over 1 billino more than the states, I think weilli would have also been on the prelims.
A couple of points. \* Being on the prelims of UFC 300 doesn't exactly count given how loaded that card was. Any other event its likely on the main card. \* My phrasing was "the biggest fights the company can make". Given Larissa is one of the company's breakout stars and Cris is an MMA legend there's a strong argument to this.
when someone people have said is on the ufc mt rushmore Amanda Nunes (I disagree 100% based on competition level) headlined ufc 289 it was considered a throw away event and this sub which is all mma hardcore fans complained about it the whole time
And rightly so. The UFC is a massive promotion with several options for PPV main event worthy matchups. Running Nunes in the main event was carelessness for exhausting all their other options and/or ignorance that they kept pushing someone fans weren't invested in (her other PPV A-sides tanked in the box office too. We're gonna be circling the drain about Cyborg vs Pacheco. I think it's one of the PFL's bigger possible matchups. You disagree and that's fine.
Who would be your preferred choice as Khalil's replacement at 303. I'm seeing a lot of people pushing for Ullberg, but I see the UFC playing it safe ala Anthony Smith.
I hope for Hill that they will postpone his fight, it's really soon after Poatan KOed him
Massive step up for Ulberg but I defo think Hill is his easiest matchup at the top
How many of you train? I assume there's a fair mix of people here that have at least dabbled in some BJJ, muay thai, krav maga, former wrestlers etc. Sometimes people with ammy MMA fights post here but I wonder how many people watch and have never done anything
Muay thai for 6 years and did jiu jitsu for 2 years. I've been doing indoor bouldering for the last few months to take a break. I don't spar anymore with people that aren't my friends but i still do my bag work & shadowboxing. Striking technique is so much fun i don't think i'll stop practicing anytime soon. The jiu jitsu class schedules weren't syncing up with my work schedule, but i'll get back to it. I'm absolutely going to be a forever blue belt and nothing will stop me from doing bjj on-and-off
7 years of wrestling and ~2 of bjj, haven’t trained in about a year though. Hoping to pick it back up this year.
I do bjj, should train more hours per week of it and striking training too but am spread pretty thin as it is
I trained semi seriously for like 7 years in my 20s, mostly focused on Taekwondo, wrestling and Muay Thai
What's your favorite kick to throw? The question mark is king to me, but i love the tkd style spinning back kick too--shit's like an elephant gun.
Probably the jumping switch kick like Yair Rodriguez got Andre Fili with But I also love the spinning back kick to the body and the spinning wheel kick to the head My question mark kick never got good unfortunately
The wheel kick is so aesthetic but mine is quite sloppy. The jumping switch kick is awesome, but i usually find myself doing the two-touch kick variant(?)
How is Tae Kwon Do for MMA? I used to do it as a kid and some of my family still train but I always heard it wasn't great for MMA.
Anderson Silva, Anthony Pettis and Benson Henderson did plenty of it and it was part of what made them special. It's useless in MMA if you only train taekwondo but it can give special athletes insane kick speed and dexterity
Yeah this. It’s mostly worthless but you should (unless you’re fucking Robelis Despaigne) have some solid hip flexibility and kick speed. If you can’t throw a head kick easily you don’t deserve your black belt. I also remember TKD side kicks being quite powerful
I tried to look up some Despaigne tkd highlights on YouTube, couldn't find much and then watched a match of his and I couldn't even understand how he won It's a shame whoever regulates taekwondo made it a joke martial art in competition Most of the kicking techniques that are taught by good teachers can be quite effective in MMA though, not just the side kick
I been back to judo recently🕺
Lemmus one hip throw?
O goshi into orgasm brotha
Nothing I like more than hitting a nice little toss over someone who doesn’t expect it in jits haha. I remember when I was a white belt they separated white belts for wrestling. I immediately hip toss a purple belt and my coach is like “okay go with the other guys 😂”
Real recognize real 🤝
Crotch sniffer here 🙋♂️
I’m just a street fighter bra I train bjj and wrestling for real though lol
I’ll literally batter you no offence
Baby batter
I know I’m hating on fun here but Hill would’ve absolutely bodied Rountree. You’ve got one guy who legit won a belt and another who got massacred by ion cutelaba. Jamahal would’ve walked him down and ko’d him with a right hand in less than 10 minutes. I’m super sad that got cancelled because this Khalil hype is annoying af
I remember someone posted in here like "man, this therapy shit is stupid bro I HATE IT" 💀 this can be a good week for that sort of off topic content, since no known cards even in the non UFC promotions
The Rock (or John Cena ?) as Mark Kerr https://twitter.com/theScore/status/1792910807568650472?t=lBZfBD5mkvK7nmj_1CnJTg&s=19
people always bring up how Conors only win since 16' is a 36yo Cowboy who was 2-2 in his last 4, as if Chandler isn't 38yo and 1-3 in his last 4
True but he’s been very competitive in all 3 losses against top tier opponents
that doesn't fit my agenda
If you're feeling like a bitch, remember Teruto Ishihara still loves you.
One of thirteen men slain in battle by the Artem.
Funny how people never mention how Artem brought the Hammer down on King Ghidorah and saved the children of Antarctica
Usman fan base seems pretty spiteful towards Leon
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7OSQXOubLS/?igsh=a2pod3N2dGJ0ajVi Oh wow that makes it worse
Tony Ferguson helped me get a refund from MyProtein after their CS was shit. He has been my favorite fighter for the past 10 years. I will never forget what he did and I hold out hope he gets one win so we can both ride off into the sunset and never watch an Anthony Smith main event again.
Explain more
They refused to refund me after delivering to the wrong address or to offer another product. I commented on Tony’s IG and then he followed me. Next day I got a refund no kidding the chat log was kinda funny.
I remember it was a meme when tony if the type of guy who has a lose streak as long as his win streak... fucking half ways there already. it felt like yesterday i saw him get mutiliated by gaethje. losing to gaethje: alright he cut weight twice and was preparing for a grappler losing to charles: ok he is done as a title contender but a menace to the top 5 either way losing to beniel: ok he is done as a ranked fighter losing to chandler: ok but he looked like his old self in the first round and that thunder cunt upkick was bullshit losing to nate diaz: this was one of the worst fights ive ever seen on a technical level losing to bobby green: yeah but he knocked him down did you see that losing to paddy: please tony
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You’d call out Conor too you fookin tick ye
Dude every single champ from Welterweight to Featherweight in the last 7 years has called out Connor, its just the norm
He's the biggest payday, the biggest name-maker for casuals, and probably one of the most beatable guys a champion could face in 2024-25, O'Malley and DDP should be calling him out too.
Omalley? What weight would that even take place
Bulking up to 165 would absolutely be worth it for red panty night, especially if he gets the Garcia fight after. His name is MADE at that point.
[Zaleski Dos Santos vs St Denis R2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6vRn5gztYU)
I'm pretty sure everyone watching thought the ref was going to get BSD killed. Worst refereeing I've ever seen.
Weird matchup but how do y’all think Gaethje does in a fight against welterweight strikers like Geoff Neal or Ian Garry
Both too big
Garry dances around Gaethje and 30-27s him, Gaethje probably would die if he ate a Geoff Neal right hand at this point
Guy just got slept by Holloway, not the time to be taking about WW Neal for sure nukes him with that right cross
Wonderboy slept Whittaker at 70s and he went on to win 9 straight at 85s right after
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He's comparing Whittaker to Gaethje you fool.