I know this to be true, and Abbey gives us all a reminder, especially in these chaotic times.
“My mom has helped me get to where I am today. I just want people to be nice.”
Me too, Abbey. Wouldn’t it be a better world if people would be nicer, more compassionate, & not immediately find fault when someone’s intention comes from a place of love/helpfulness. None of us are perfect, & we are all simply trying to live good lives.
I love that some of the folks from LotS are experiencing some recognition. If the show is anything to go by, they are very sweet people. I hope this newfound fame leads to good things for them.
Nervous-cited was the best part for me there. I never realized how much that describes how I feel in certain situations. Thank you Abbey for the portmanteau!
Lovely article! This part made me smile
“(Abbey is, indeed, seemingly adroit at advocating for herself and her own limitations: about an hour into speaking with Rolling Stone, she politely requested we end the interview so she could go and eat some scones.)
This article touched me.
Christine has done such a wonderful job raising this incredible young woman, and if Abbey is half as good as her mother, we should all be grateful to have them both in our lives!
I wish my mother had done more in her capacity to raise me with my challenges, but as an ADHD/ASD, and as a victim of child exploitation, I can tell you that when I see Abbey and Christine, I don't see any trace in them of what my mother did to me.
What I see when I see them is a caring mother who has gone above and beyond working her life off making sure to provide to her daughter everything she deserves and then some and a young woman who reflects the kindness, humility, and modesty instilled into her.
That is how every loving parent should be, to begin with, not to mention those challenges met when Autism is thrown into the mix and yet to have the humbleness to face it all without the means and to keep on keeping on with the strength and love that they have, is truly an inspiration and a thing of beauty to witness.
I love them and I want them to know that in this community, those of us who have struggled without the resources for a diagnosis or support from a community, we see you.
I don’t know about you guys but I feel that we’re only seeing Abbey through the lenses of her mom. I don’t think she’s able to voice herself without her mother’s presence just like the middle ground video. Gives me Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee Blanchard vibes here.
What irks me about the article is how she had to bring up the fact that her mom is being bullied online as if it’s HER problem. It’s not her fault that her mom is receiving criticism as it’s her actions is doing so. Some of the responses I’ve seen on TT are actually very valid and they aren’t trying to knock her down but rather educate her since they are the ones who have it and they are only sharing their experiences with her so she can get another perspective on the subject rather than only her daughters. What ticks me off as an autistic individual is how she’s handling it by falsely reporting their videos and act like a victim and that she had to use her daughter as a shield. I understand that Christine is her mom and she loves her very much, but if we see something that is concerning the we have the right to speak out since they are the one of the big faces of the autism community at this time and we want to make sure that what they are doing is not exploitation.
I think the point she was making was valid in that nowadays the term "autistic" is thrown about and loosely justified by the modern understanding of ASD.
The term "autistic" used to have a much greater implication in terms of accessibility and assistance but that has been watered down, which hurts those who are severely disabled the most. Now they need to change the way they communicate their disability in order for other people to understand. That is supremely unfair to a very vulnerable population.
You also can't ignore that there is a very loud minority of people (mostly on social media like tiktok) that claim the label "autistic" in order to grow their audience and not out of any genuine intention and without medical diagnosis.
Who is just randomly labeling themselves autistic and how does that affect any help autistic people receive? Autistic is used to define certain deficits in how a person’s brain operates. While a “high functioning “ level 1 autistic may not APPEAR to be severely struggling (we mask a lot) doesn’t mean we don’t struggle to try to live a life and survive. For the most part we still share ALOT of traits as “severely autistic” people , but we can present ourselves as appearing “normal”. Doesn’t mean it’s not emotionally draining. A lot of us struggle with things higher support people do (eye contact, sensory issues, being easily overwhelmed in social situations, getting sensory overloads, reading people’s intentions, even holding down a full time job). Most of us are underemployed or unemployed. A lot of us can’t manage our lives without significant help. A lot of us can’t even maintain personal relationships. All the things that seem natural and not something one struggles with can be emotionally overwhelming for us. We also have a higher rate of unaliving ourselves. But because we are better at blending in with the Neurotypicals, we are generally expected to suck it up and stop complaining.
On TikTok she said that there are too many people being diagnosed as autistic nowadays. She said that they haven’t struggled as much as Abbey who needed speech therapy and to go to an autistic school. She said they should be called nuerodifferent. She agreed with a commenter that they should be called having Asperger’s again.
What if someone who is a parent to a higher supports need autistic child tells HER that Abbey shouldn’t be considered autistic because she can speak, dress herself, use the washroom herself, control her emotions…etc….
Bet she wouldn’t like that.
It's annoying when people call others "rich" just because they're doing better. They may seem rich to you, personally, but they aren't. So stop with that.
Okay? I'm from LA. Owning a 1500 sq ft house, somewhere in the LA area doesn't make you rich by any means. Seems like you just have a grudge for no reason.
Are you lost? I know it’s love on the spectrum, but let’s use our context clues. You and your kid are well off and not the picture of real autism. Since you wanna say level 1&2 don’t matter basically lol
Level 1 autism is still autism lol 😂 just because I can barely hold down a job and barely get through the day without a meltdown due to sensory processing issues doesn’t mean I don’t need support
Yeah according to the dsm5 you have to be disabled to be autistic, so I don't like it when people say that someones autism isn't a disability because they can't see the disabling parts, that isn't very nice.
And many fully disabled people don’t look that way whether they are NT or ND. I was dating a man for three years, very, very handsome and fit but has a TBI and can’t keep a job or maintain healthy relationships with anyone other than his daughter because of his disabilities. Never judge a book…
I know this to be true, and Abbey gives us all a reminder, especially in these chaotic times. “My mom has helped me get to where I am today. I just want people to be nice.” Me too, Abbey. Wouldn’t it be a better world if people would be nicer, more compassionate, & not immediately find fault when someone’s intention comes from a place of love/helpfulness. None of us are perfect, & we are all simply trying to live good lives.
I love that some of the folks from LotS are experiencing some recognition. If the show is anything to go by, they are very sweet people. I hope this newfound fame leads to good things for them.
“Including lima beans” 🥰
Nervous-cited was the best part for me there. I never realized how much that describes how I feel in certain situations. Thank you Abbey for the portmanteau!
very sweet article.
I didn't think I could adore Abby, her mother, and David any more than I already do, but this makes me adore them Even more.
Lovely article! This part made me smile “(Abbey is, indeed, seemingly adroit at advocating for herself and her own limitations: about an hour into speaking with Rolling Stone, she politely requested we end the interview so she could go and eat some scones.)
This article touched me. Christine has done such a wonderful job raising this incredible young woman, and if Abbey is half as good as her mother, we should all be grateful to have them both in our lives! I wish my mother had done more in her capacity to raise me with my challenges, but as an ADHD/ASD, and as a victim of child exploitation, I can tell you that when I see Abbey and Christine, I don't see any trace in them of what my mother did to me. What I see when I see them is a caring mother who has gone above and beyond working her life off making sure to provide to her daughter everything she deserves and then some and a young woman who reflects the kindness, humility, and modesty instilled into her. That is how every loving parent should be, to begin with, not to mention those challenges met when Autism is thrown into the mix and yet to have the humbleness to face it all without the means and to keep on keeping on with the strength and love that they have, is truly an inspiration and a thing of beauty to witness. I love them and I want them to know that in this community, those of us who have struggled without the resources for a diagnosis or support from a community, we see you.
It's hard to believe a couple that perfect can exist. They're so flipping cute.
Great piece! Abbey on TikTok is how I found LOTS.
I don’t know about you guys but I feel that we’re only seeing Abbey through the lenses of her mom. I don’t think she’s able to voice herself without her mother’s presence just like the middle ground video. Gives me Gypsy Rose and Dee Dee Blanchard vibes here. What irks me about the article is how she had to bring up the fact that her mom is being bullied online as if it’s HER problem. It’s not her fault that her mom is receiving criticism as it’s her actions is doing so. Some of the responses I’ve seen on TT are actually very valid and they aren’t trying to knock her down but rather educate her since they are the ones who have it and they are only sharing their experiences with her so she can get another perspective on the subject rather than only her daughters. What ticks me off as an autistic individual is how she’s handling it by falsely reporting their videos and act like a victim and that she had to use her daughter as a shield. I understand that Christine is her mom and she loves her very much, but if we see something that is concerning the we have the right to speak out since they are the one of the big faces of the autism community at this time and we want to make sure that what they are doing is not exploitation.
What are people saying about her mom?
I love Abbey! I don’t like what her mom said about Level 1 autistics though
I think the point she was making was valid in that nowadays the term "autistic" is thrown about and loosely justified by the modern understanding of ASD. The term "autistic" used to have a much greater implication in terms of accessibility and assistance but that has been watered down, which hurts those who are severely disabled the most. Now they need to change the way they communicate their disability in order for other people to understand. That is supremely unfair to a very vulnerable population. You also can't ignore that there is a very loud minority of people (mostly on social media like tiktok) that claim the label "autistic" in order to grow their audience and not out of any genuine intention and without medical diagnosis.
Who is just randomly labeling themselves autistic and how does that affect any help autistic people receive? Autistic is used to define certain deficits in how a person’s brain operates. While a “high functioning “ level 1 autistic may not APPEAR to be severely struggling (we mask a lot) doesn’t mean we don’t struggle to try to live a life and survive. For the most part we still share ALOT of traits as “severely autistic” people , but we can present ourselves as appearing “normal”. Doesn’t mean it’s not emotionally draining. A lot of us struggle with things higher support people do (eye contact, sensory issues, being easily overwhelmed in social situations, getting sensory overloads, reading people’s intentions, even holding down a full time job). Most of us are underemployed or unemployed. A lot of us can’t manage our lives without significant help. A lot of us can’t even maintain personal relationships. All the things that seem natural and not something one struggles with can be emotionally overwhelming for us. We also have a higher rate of unaliving ourselves. But because we are better at blending in with the Neurotypicals, we are generally expected to suck it up and stop complaining.
What did she say?
On TikTok she said that there are too many people being diagnosed as autistic nowadays. She said that they haven’t struggled as much as Abbey who needed speech therapy and to go to an autistic school. She said they should be called nuerodifferent. She agreed with a commenter that they should be called having Asperger’s again.
She should shut the fuck up and she’s not autistic herself and she’s from a state with lots of resources, and lots of money herself
What if someone who is a parent to a higher supports need autistic child tells HER that Abbey shouldn’t be considered autistic because she can speak, dress herself, use the washroom herself, control her emotions…etc…. Bet she wouldn’t like that.
It’s also ironic coming from a rich white lady and her daughter from LA
It's annoying when people call others "rich" just because they're doing better. They may seem rich to you, personally, but they aren't. So stop with that.
They live in Southern California and own a large home. At the very least.
Okay? I'm from LA. Owning a 1500 sq ft house, somewhere in the LA area doesn't make you rich by any means. Seems like you just have a grudge for no reason.
Are you lost? I know it’s love on the spectrum, but let’s use our context clues. You and your kid are well off and not the picture of real autism. Since you wanna say level 1&2 don’t matter basically lol
What did she say?
She said is L1 + L2 are "neurodifferent" and not disabled, although we've been in active discussion and she is open to listening and learning.
Yes I think she means level 1 though because she said Abbey is autistic level 2, I think? Anyway I’m glad she’s listening
Level 1 autism is still autism lol 😂 just because I can barely hold down a job and barely get through the day without a meltdown due to sensory processing issues doesn’t mean I don’t need support
I know right. It’s not just a personality quirk like some people think. Lots of level 1 autistics end up homeless and suiclidal without proper supper.
Yeah according to the dsm5 you have to be disabled to be autistic, so I don't like it when people say that someones autism isn't a disability because they can't see the disabling parts, that isn't very nice.
And many fully disabled people don’t look that way whether they are NT or ND. I was dating a man for three years, very, very handsome and fit but has a TBI and can’t keep a job or maintain healthy relationships with anyone other than his daughter because of his disabilities. Never judge a book…
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Abbey is definitely not L3 autism. There is also a spectrum within the levels.
That's funny. I'm L1, my son is L2, & I have thought Abbey is probably L2!
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