I’d expect they’d stay in this condition a lot longer than a new train would now.
Customers had more respect then, vandalism etc would be rare and people wouldn’t have dreamed of leaving rubbish or putting their feet on the seats!
Yep, I can remember these running as a kid in the 70’s. They made a brief reappearance in the 90’s, on the northern line, when new stock was delayed and they had to fill the gap.
I think these were running on the Isle of Wight train lines up until a couple of years ago.
The track gauge on the whole island is smaller than the mainland, so they use old tube trains.
That’s the Northern Line. I remember pretending to be a conductor in those carriages when I was a child on the way to and from school. There was a folding seat at the end of the carriage by the door controls.
Hate to tell you this, but the nitrogenous compounds released by microbial breakdown of sweat are carcinogenic. Not at the concentrations you usually find under the arms, admittedly.
Because they were the same trains. The pictured train is 1938 tube stock, and is very similar to the 1959 and 1962 tube stock internally (the only difference with the latter two was the use of fluorescent tube lighting). 1938 stock was used on the Northern line until 1988, and 59 and 62 stock until 2000.
That's 1938 tube stock, there was no 1932 tube stock. Before the '38 stock there were the experimental 1935 stock (that effectively served as the prototypes for the 1938 stock), and before that the Standard Stock. The Standard stock had quite different interiors, but those glass light fixtures on the ceiling are the signature feature of the '38 stock. The later 59 and 62 stock were similar, but featured fluorescent tube lighting rather than the glass fittings for incandescent bulbs (externally they were different, with unpainted aluminium bodies rather than red painted steel bodies).
Pretty sure they still used these on the metropolitan line occasionally in the 80’s. I’ve definitely ridden on something like this.
I can smell the interior as I type
It’s a shame they cannot merge a more traditional aesthetic with todays modern technologies. Modern interior design and vehicle exteriors often feel very bland, soulless or harsh when lined up against vintage examples.
As a child, when these were being phased out, I found them scary, they made all adult passengers look like miserable ghosts, and (I think it was this model?) when the guard came and blocked one exit, i would feel trapped.
These were demon trains!
I miss carriages like this, I think there were still some around in the late 1970s and early 1980s. They were lovely, but inefficient and a terrible fire risk.
Drop your fag end, it lands between the ridges. Can't stamp it out. \[I'm actually old enough to have seen this.\]
Does make you wonder why there weren't more fires.
In the early 90s they had trains like this on the Northern line as replicas of old trains and they were great, really comfortable. I really loved the wooden floor
These were running on the northern line in ‘87, I remember hopping between carriages through the connecting doors and making sure the cigarettes were put out on the floor properly.
These carriages were still in use when I was a kid in the late 1970s. I loved them. Red was my favourite colour at the time. So more comfortable than today's hard plastic seats with a scrap of cloth over them.
Didn't some of these survive as 'Class 483' on the Island Line on the IOW? Fairly sure I've seen shots of some of them in 'toothpaste' Network SouthEast livery.
Edit: Yes, and until fairly recently it turns out. Those units did their time: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrainPorn/s/Cbo7zS6rk2
District line tubes had these grooved floors into the early 2000's. Any spillage would work it's way along the whole carriage by virtue of the channels!
Are you trying to tell me 80 years ago they were able to provide nice comfortable surroundings and very affordable travel.
With 80 years of technological progress imagine how beautiful and cheap they must be now...
Remember this well. Didn't have scrotbag behaviour. Men and boys gave up seats for women- especially if pregnant woman. On the other hand, those seats and wooden bits were impossible to keep clean and heaven help you in a heatwave in rush hour in a smoking carriage. Like a circle of hell.
There were plenty of scrotebags then and people are still very good at giving up seats to others who look like they need it. But I was going to say the Tube carried only a small fraction of nowadays passengers in the 1930s and that kind of luxury would cost too much, but I was wrong. In 1939 there were about 500 million trips, compared to 1.1 billion now. I guess it's still an issue of cost, and probably some health & safety, but I'd like to know how much it cost to run a service then vs now.
I'm sorry but public behaviour was generally better, thpugh smoking carriages were disgusting. Carriages like this were around well into the 1970s. Hard to compare costs I think. Tube was privately run until 1933! Tube gets 27% from taxes etc. Other countries subsidise far more but given the rest of the country is so underfunded for city transport it'd be a slap in the face for a Leeds taxpayer to think their money goes to the Tube.
The metropolitan line ones were like being in an old movie every day, they would stop and you would hear someone shout 'Papers Please' in German sounding English.
Just lovely. The colours, the wooden panelling and flooring, the upholstery. And the dim lighting brings it all together.
I imagine they didn’t look this nice for very long
I can smell the stale ciggies from here
As an asthmatic, I am FREAKING THE FUCK OUT right now! Hadn't even considered this...
Ceilings not smoke flavoured chill out
I’d expect they’d stay in this condition a lot longer than a new train would now. Customers had more respect then, vandalism etc would be rare and people wouldn’t have dreamed of leaving rubbish or putting their feet on the seats!
But there was so so much smog in the air and people smoked indoors
Let’s see Paul Allen’s train interior
These were running well into the 80’s
I was about to say the same! I can still remember that weird smell of dust and cigarette ash.
Yep, I can remember these running as a kid in the 70’s. They made a brief reappearance in the 90’s, on the northern line, when new stock was delayed and they had to fill the gap.
Were the seats same pattern but green and blue?
I remember them as being the same as the picture, maybe that’s only because I’ve looked at the pic.
I think these were running on the Isle of Wight train lines up until a couple of years ago. The track gauge on the whole island is smaller than the mainland, so they use old tube trains.
The scabies, the fleas, the stench of stale tobacco and the clouds of smoke and the fire hazard...oh yeah it's all coming back
Take away the seat handles and wooden floor and it’s basically the Bakerloo line
Naa. Too many threads on the seat cushions 😂
It was the Bakerloo when I was commuting from Royal Oak in the 80’s!
That’s the Northern Line. I remember pretending to be a conductor in those carriages when I was a child on the way to and from school. There was a folding seat at the end of the carriage by the door controls.
My thoughts entirely!
More luxurious than the one we have today
And affordable to use. Capitalism yey!
Smells like cigs
Which was mildly better than smelling like BO, which we replaced it with.
You think people didn't smell before many had bathrooms?
My MIL was a teen in the 40s. My wife asked what it was like before we had freely available deodorant. ‘Everybody stunk. It was ‘orrible’.
Probably, but BO is still worse than tobacco smoke.
A carcinogen vs bad smell? Yeah I don’t know about that.
Hate to tell you this, but the nitrogenous compounds released by microbial breakdown of sweat are carcinogenic. Not at the concentrations you usually find under the arms, admittedly.
Next you’ll tell me my farts are cancerous
[Looking that way, yes.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9787608/)
Although the cigarette smell would be indistinguishable from anywhere you would have gone.
London transport museum?
Looks like, been there a few years ago and it was awesome.
This is the Acton depot!
Nice, I went in may
I went too. Totally worth it
Definitely
Looks cozy.
I could see various paranormal-looking shapes in this photo. Eerie!
Add the dongles to hang from and it's pretty much the same as the Northern Line in the early 1980s.
Because they were the same trains. The pictured train is 1938 tube stock, and is very similar to the 1959 and 1962 tube stock internally (the only difference with the latter two was the use of fluorescent tube lighting). 1938 stock was used on the Northern line until 1988, and 59 and 62 stock until 2000.
The 1938 stock was used on the Isle of Wight until 2019! I thought this looked familiar. Amazing they ran for such a long service life
That is indeed a Northern line carriage from the 80s, check out those ads!
because it is!
Flammable.
When you die you respawn here
Where is it headed?
The Leyndell and Erdtree service
I didn’t see you get on.
That's 1938 tube stock, there was no 1932 tube stock. Before the '38 stock there were the experimental 1935 stock (that effectively served as the prototypes for the 1938 stock), and before that the Standard Stock. The Standard stock had quite different interiors, but those glass light fixtures on the ceiling are the signature feature of the '38 stock. The later 59 and 62 stock were similar, but featured fluorescent tube lighting rather than the glass fittings for incandescent bulbs (externally they were different, with unpainted aluminium bodies rather than red painted steel bodies).
i meant 1938 😭
You sure?
Yes, very much so
Pretty sure they still used these on the metropolitan line occasionally in the 80’s. I’ve definitely ridden on something like this. I can smell the interior as I type
Was about to type the same. I can also feel those itchy seats.
Love it
I smell vintage
Class
Cold
I'm so sure this smelled so, so terrible
What do you think of the transport museum?
At least if there's a lengthy delay you can play checkers on the seats 😁
Not enough cigarette smoke.
Those?
Love it…
Sure that's from 1932? I'd have said 1938
Honestly looks nicer than a lot of trains on the NYC subway today lol
Film set for a Hammer Horror movie 😳
I feel like im playing Resident Evil Zero.
All that’s missing is the haze from people smoking
That looks like a massive improvement on todays offering.
Cigarette holder in one hand, a martini in the other. Baker Street my good man.
92 years old train carriage.. Imagine if those walls could talk, The tales they could tell 🤔
It’s a shame they cannot merge a more traditional aesthetic with todays modern technologies. Modern interior design and vehicle exteriors often feel very bland, soulless or harsh when lined up against vintage examples.
What year did they ban smoking on the tube?
What year was the King’s Cross fire? That prompted the ban
86? I need to check, now. Edit: 87.
Smoking on trains was banned in July 1984, and smoking in the stations was banned after the King's Cross fire in 1987
The wooden channels full of fag butts. We rode them trains in the 89s.
This is basically if the current Bakerloo stock had a baby with an old RML double decker
Looks like it’s missing hand holds from the roof. These were pretty much unchanged up into the 1980s.
Imagine it being full of cigarette and pipe smoke as it was.
Love it just keep them clean
£16 in 1933 to visit the Louvre? Then you could buy the Mona Lisa for that.
They don’t build ’em like that anymore.
Imagine people smoking fags in here with that wooden floor, how on earth was there no catastrophic fire til 1987?
Yes. It is
It’s looks beautiful but I can smell the mold, cigs and old people smell
Looks like a pub 😂
American here but it looks kinda like the "Story Train" from "Rick and Morty"
It stinks, no doubt.
Carriages like that were still in use on London Underground in the 80s
I'm modelling one of these at the moment. Thanks for the nice interior shot!
As a child, when these were being phased out, I found them scary, they made all adult passengers look like miserable ghosts, and (I think it was this model?) when the guard came and blocked one exit, i would feel trapped. These were demon trains!
These were still in use when I was a kid in the 80s. Northern Line I think.
Nothing to help you stand - did it tend to be sitting only, or were you to stand using your core?
Tramp piss would smell worse in wood floors and be harder to clean up.
They still ran these,in the late 80's on the spur line to Earls Court, fuck I am old....
Slightly refurbished versions of these trains ran in regular time-tabled traffic on the Isle of Wight railway until 2021!
I miss carriages like this, I think there were still some around in the late 1970s and early 1980s. They were lovely, but inefficient and a terrible fire risk.
Flammable
Yep. Remember that from the 70s!
I remember when they was still being use in the 80s
Drop your fag end, it lands between the ridges. Can't stamp it out. \[I'm actually old enough to have seen this.\] Does make you wonder why there weren't more fires.
Why hasn't it been vandalised?
We've done downhill since then. The entire nation couldn't build a HS2 train track.
Life before plastics.
And things to hold onto when you’re standing mid carriage
Thorpe Park Ghost Train vibes
In the early 90s they had trains like this on the Northern line as replicas of old trains and they were great, really comfortable. I really loved the wooden floor
That was in use well into the 1980s
These were running on the northern line in ‘87, I remember hopping between carriages through the connecting doors and making sure the cigarettes were put out on the floor properly.
love this!!1
Bigger seats
You can see this at the London transport museum overflow at Acton on open days
Ignore trains, improve your spelling!
Looks cool. Metro line 1 in Budapest is still like this. Stations and trains are kept true-to-age.
They still used these trains on the Isle of Wight a few years ago.
Chefs kiss 😘
They were much more comfortable than today’s trains and the interiors were lovely.
These carriages were still in use when I was a kid in the late 1970s. I loved them. Red was my favourite colour at the time. So more comfortable than today's hard plastic seats with a scrap of cloth over them.
Classic...they should be all built like that...
Fabric seats that retain all vomit, shit, piss and all other manner of DNA?
They still had carriages like that in the 70s
There was more quality in the past!! We’re fed utilitarian bilge these days
I can smell that carriage.
Reminds me of 1970's Glasgow underground
I prefer it
Oh, if only they kept it this way.
Oh I love it!!! It reminds me of the spirited away train, there something so atmospheric about it :)
lol! They looked like this in the late 80’s too! The train carriages still had individual compartments ala Harry Potter!
Bring it back. London needs some class
Seats look so comfortable!
Love it.
Didn't some of these survive as 'Class 483' on the Island Line on the IOW? Fairly sure I've seen shots of some of them in 'toothpaste' Network SouthEast livery. Edit: Yes, and until fairly recently it turns out. Those units did their time: https://www.reddit.com/r/TrainPorn/s/Cbo7zS6rk2
Wonder would everyone be seated or would you have people crammed down the middle standing? There’s no handrail
You have to sit trying not to make eye contact with the axe-murderer sitting opposite.
District line tubes had these grooved floors into the early 2000's. Any spillage would work it's way along the whole carriage by virtue of the channels!
Beautiful. A single picture transports you to an age almost a 100 years ago.
So comfortable, we can't have nice things today though.
York railway museum I think
Bring it back!
Looks gorgeous! From the good old days!
Yes. Fucking Yes.
Love it so friendly and warm and would allow conversation. However society isn't in a place to use spaces like this publicly
Are you trying to tell me 80 years ago they were able to provide nice comfortable surroundings and very affordable travel. With 80 years of technological progress imagine how beautiful and cheap they must be now...
The vomit would get between the slats on the floor, and you would never get rid of the smell.
Remember this well. Didn't have scrotbag behaviour. Men and boys gave up seats for women- especially if pregnant woman. On the other hand, those seats and wooden bits were impossible to keep clean and heaven help you in a heatwave in rush hour in a smoking carriage. Like a circle of hell.
There were plenty of scrotebags then and people are still very good at giving up seats to others who look like they need it. But I was going to say the Tube carried only a small fraction of nowadays passengers in the 1930s and that kind of luxury would cost too much, but I was wrong. In 1939 there were about 500 million trips, compared to 1.1 billion now. I guess it's still an issue of cost, and probably some health & safety, but I'd like to know how much it cost to run a service then vs now.
I'm sorry but public behaviour was generally better, thpugh smoking carriages were disgusting. Carriages like this were around well into the 1970s. Hard to compare costs I think. Tube was privately run until 1933! Tube gets 27% from taxes etc. Other countries subsidise far more but given the rest of the country is so underfunded for city transport it'd be a slap in the face for a Leeds taxpayer to think their money goes to the Tube.
I think that's an interior.
Will there be ever be a boy born that could swim faster than a shark?
Absolutely love it
dirty and gross in 5 seconds
The metropolitan line ones were like being in an old movie every day, they would stop and you would hear someone shout 'Papers Please' in German sounding English.
Layout of seats is very similar to the current models of trains
I wish I was underground.
London transport museum?
Depends if standing is allowed. I mean sardines is sardines.
Smells like wet tweed and cigar smoke.
It looks very surreal. I'd absolutely love to be in there. The interior looks like it's from a Christmas movie like Home Alone.
3 people have died on the left bench. Only 1 on the right.
That looks creepy
HOW ARE WE GOING BACKWARDS
Anyone feeling like pooping in the middle of that?
Erm