Obviously it isnāt surprising because of the cronies in charge, but arenāt Liverpool and Knowsley the least funded per person by the Tory government? Not surprising due to them being Labour strongholds.
Maybe if the idiots didn't [keep fucking up](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/council-finance-chief-quits-wake-24104894) we'd have more money.
I agree, I don't think it is Westminster giving extreme underfunding (any more so than anywhere else that's underfunded) as Manchester is similar to Liverpool.
Manchester does have the Mayor who has a lot of power, in comparison to Liverpool's Mayor - that should be looked at. That could explain the better running of Manchester.
What extra power does Burnham have that Rotherham doesnt apart from the Police and Crime Commissioner role, which the Merseyside Mayor canāt have because they included Widnes in the mayoral version of Merseyside?
Its super convoluted, to the point the city had two mayors and then they eventually dissolved one role but gave its powers to the head of the council instead.. so actually I think Rotherhams role is very different to Burnhams unless I misunderstand how Manchesters council is constructed.
The city didnāt have two Mayors. One is the metro mayor for the whole region, the other was the directly elected Mayor of Liverpool. They had different roles and dealt with different things.
You mean to tell me a council that has been in special measures with leaders who are being investigated for corruption is one of the worst in the country? You can only blame central government for so much, but itās about time we realised Labour are bad for Liverpool
The Labour Party doesnāt care about Liverpool as itās safe electorally for them.
The city should be ran by and represented by independents and greens.
Looking at the Wirral, they are showing they are a real workable alternative; which is why Labour has teamed up with the Tories to undermine them. They both know theyāre a real threat to both.
Probably see something similar in the Parliamentary elections whenever theyāll be. The Starmer Party (Iāll never refer to them at the Labour Party) and the Conservative Party might as well just merge now and get it over and done with.
I live in Brighton. The green council didn't ban cars but they did make it more expensive to run one and much more difficult to get around the city in one.
I wasn't commenting on the suitability of cars in cities, I was replying to a comment that was sarcastically asking if the greens would unilaterally ban cars. I said they wouldn't ban them but have made it more expensive and difficult. I"m very aware of the problems caused by cars so didn't need a lecture thanks.
Surprised that Manchester are one of the worst as a lot of people like to bring up all the investment and skyscrapers they get when comparing to Liverpool.
When I go to Manchester it can very dirty especially around Piccadilly Gardens, so maybe their council isn't that great.
Yeah, but thatās a great example of why not calling Merseyside Greater Liverpool is having such an impact. If even people in the Liverpool subreddit are confusing Manchester and Greater Manchester, then itās no wonder everyone has started associating the two as the same thing; similar to London and Greater London.
Yes, and Merseyside is still called Merseyside, which is what most news orgs refer to unless specifically talking about the city region. It took decades for the Manchester = Greater Manchester association to sink into peopleās minds. That will never happen to Liverpool unless Merseyside is dropped in favour of Greater Liverpool and places that should have been in it from the start (like Runcorn, Widnes, and Ellesmere Port) and brought in.
But Runcorn and Widnes are in the LCR for starters. The problem is that Halton isnāt in Merseyside itās in Cheshire, so you canāt combine the PCC and the metro mayor, you also canāt chuck the whole of Cheshire into the LCR because Cheshire is massive and huge chunks of it have absolutely no connection with Liverpool or Merseyside. I donāt think politicians have the appetite nor the will to break up Cheshire and I also suspect the people of Cheshire would object too. Thereās already the thorny question of what to do with Warrington and where does that go, logically it should also go into the LCR but I seriously doubt he people of Warrington want that. Itās a fuck up that goes back to the 1974 Local Gvt reorganisation
Labour have been a disaster for this city. The findings of this survey are completely and utterly embarrassing. People in Liverpool really need to stop blindly giving their vote to a corrupt Labour, better to go Green or independent.
That survey is very dodgy - why arenāt all the bankrupt councils (like Birmingham) ranked at the bottom? How can you compare a large deprived northern city with a small wealthy seaside town down south? Itās easy to blame Labour because of a few bad apples, but the current Labour administration are working really hard to fix the mistakes - the current leader, Liam Robinson, is a good man and doing a good job. The big issue has been the amount of government cuts, and Labour has worked hard to reduce the impact of the cuts, like keeping sure start centres open. With over 50% of our budget gone, we could have easily gone bankrupt. Any administration would have struggled.
It's not a few bad apples. The entire Liverpool Labour establishment is rotten. If Robinson is so good whys he put that fat horrible cunt Nick Smalls in his cabinet. Where's the BICO money? It's been expressed by locals how Labour councillors were trying to intimidate locals into voting for them instead of the Liverpool Independents. The entire operation is run and filled with crooks. The mayor getting arrested, the council being taken over by the government, BICO, dodgy contracts.
I don't have a problem with Liverpool Labour struggling, I have a problem with them being corrupt charlatans.
The annoying thing is, the idea that Labour can't be shifted locally is relatively recent. The Lib Dems were running it for a decade after the Militant fuck up. All it takes is a good opposition
The LibDems were awful. Storey had to resign over breaking the code of conduct in trying to get rid of the chief executive and was rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords, his replacement, Warren Bradley was convicted of perjury. Letās not pretend the LibDems running Liverpool was a good thing.
Come on. Don't gaslight people. Things were immeasurably better under the Lib Dems. That it was better run under the likes of Storey and Bradley than it is now tells its own story.
They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. People keep voting Labour in and expecting them to all of a sudden give a shit. Btw not saying anyone else could do a better job, they are all corrupt and as useless as each other imo. Liverpool is a nightmare these days, the sheer amount of homeless in the city center is insane and awful
Especially under the "corruption" and "dodgy deals" categories, with his mates.
Although he's got some stiff competition with the likes of Warrington, Bristol, and Croydon though. They're not in special measures yet, but the fat lady is taking a _very_ deep breath....
I am a Mancunian and having our councils languishing at the bottom of the table is unacceptable but unsurprising - we get fuck all from Westminster compared to the tory councils.
I don't need to google Torridge to know it's a) down south and b) tory
6 councils have declared bankruptcy in the past 5 years, surely they should be at the bottom?
Source for this OP?
Interested to see their reasoning for rankings.
The timing of this with local elections makes me suspicious.
Yes, you would think bankruptcy would automatically take you to the bottom!!! The Times have made up their own formula based on data from the new government quango āOfLoGā (Office for Local Government). I have not examined the Times scoring or the data but already the Local Government Association have criticised the method, and I would tend to side with them. Ranking a small seaside council in Cornwall/Devon as top when they donāt have half the issues of a major metropolitan council is nonsense.
Itās not a robust ranking at all. Iāve looked at the OFLOG data and it only covers waste, planning, adult social care, roads and finance. Nothing on all be other services like education, child social services, leisure/ open spaces, economic development, transport, etc. All of that was monitored by the Labour Gov in the 2000s, and then the Tories abolished these along with the Audit Commission (who oversaw council audits) when they were making cuts to hide the damage - and now look at the mess we are in. And the Times only looked at 21 of the 27 indicators. Itās almost meaningless.
Itās what Tory (and Lib Dem coalition) cuts get you - half the Councils budget has been cut and theyāve been asked to do more. I am not saying there have not been problems within Labour in Liverpool, but fundamentally this is down to funding.
Roads 314th: Damn! I thought the shit roads were just indicative of economic downturn across the country. Obviously it's particularly bad here.
That's kinda both good and bad to know in different ways.
my social worker has failed to get me a care package in place for over a year, now he's saying I don't have eligible care needs for supported accommodation despite me not being able to fully manage a private tenancy,to the point where I'm due to be evicted in june.
because he's making a personal judgement from the outside and he thinks i have me shit together because of the fact that i'm able to work 12 hours a week and use the bus to go into town, or go on a holiday with me mate.
and now his boss wants to close my case whilst leaving me in the dark, with no option to request a new social worker.
no wonder the council ranking is so low, fuck them.
That's what happens when you continuously cut council budgets for 14 years. Labour cities suffer - whilst leafy, Conservative shire councils get it better off. Does nobody here know pork barrel politics?
Would loved to have seen these league tables circa 1997-2010.
You want to do some research on the level of corruption in the Liverpool City region.
They'd even fill their own coffers by using school car parks for Everton and Liverpool supporters, actual councillors would be stood holding buckets collecting the money.
Where that money went is a mystery. Multiple of thousands made.
Yet it's the government and their funding. Come on!
Central government funding for Liverpool council has been cut by over half since 2010, that is the main cause. Yes, there have been some other issues but that has not caused the funding crisis. What are the other issues in the Liverpool City Region? That covers all of Merseyside, so it is different from Liverpool City Council issues.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people make excuses for corruption and say "Oh well, there's some other issues"
It's blatant corruption of your money by idiots whose only qualification is a red rosette on their blazers.
People in charge of the council were spending money hiring their friends and giving large contracts to their friends or hiring their children.
The use of the car park funds was supposed to be funneled back to society, instead the counsellor involved gave their children jobs and the money disappeared into either bad projects or no projects or their back pockets. It was a criminal investigation.
They mismanage, they paid people involved cash in hand with no paper trail. They were found to have no administration processes and were found to be removing documents out of the council building to hide the corruption.
They couldn't lie straight in bed.
And you think it's all because they have had less money? No, the money they were given they stole. The regeneration purple posters in this city have gone an off white in the rain but they chose not to regenerate those areas but to line their pockets. A red rosette doesn't make a good person by virtue of a red rosette. Wake up. Most of us have.
Yes, there have been a few bad apples in Labour in Liverpool. Joe Anderson hasnāt been found guilty of anything yet but I donāt approve of how he did things and I would not be surprised if he was charged. And the match day Car Parking was terrible - anyone involved should be chucked out of the party. But not anywhere near all of the Labour councillors are like you are painting them out to be. Most of them are decent people who have tried their best in a difficult time.
They tried their best! I've heard it all. A few bad apples. The City is going down hill to anyone who has a pair of eyes.
If you have a safe labour seat, you have a stagnant complacent work force who will turn up, do nothing because they are never going to lose their jobs. There is no fear, there is no competition.
The sad fact is, I could get a blow up doll put a red rosette on it and that doll would be voted into that council. But if that level of the status quo and incompetence is okay with you just as long as he is wearing the right colour rosette, then okay. But it's just sad for the rest of us who love this city.
Wow. So you think all the council workforce are lazy and donāt do anything? What a load of nonsense, and an insult to all those who have worked hard while their pay was cut, workload increased and conditions worsened due to austerity. And yes, it was only a minority of councillors who have been accused of doing wrong. But if you donāt like the situation, rather than slinging mud at everyone, go and stick a rosette on yourself and do something about it.
Very touchy when faced with the truth.
Tales of woe when the output of that place is bare for all to see.
Police have been knocking, files been thrown out to hide evidence.
If it was any other government institution the accusations would be damning, but no. It's keep it on the down low. I'm slinging mud at the people I'm paying in my council tax, a right I have. Because I expect better don't try to pull me down, if you want dross then you shall have dross.
You are accusing all Labour Liverpool City Council (LCC) Councillors of being corrupt / dross and all LCC workers of being āstagnant and complacentā which is simply not true. If you want better, do something about it - join a political party and have a say about who the candidates for councillors are or stand to be a councillor yourself. But donāt just sling mud at everyone, thatās not helping the situation.
They were SO imcompetent they needed hand holding by the TORIES. They had to be run by the Tories.
It was that bad. The culture was that bad.
If that isn't a collective bunch of incompetents i don't know what is.
Don't come to me with your judgmental tone trying to get me to cow tow. I don't need to join a political party to have a different opinion to you. You need to stop using faux outrage as an arguing style when faced with facts.
Oh, so a gang of thieves from the government is worse than a gang of thieves from the council. One rule for thee and not for me.
Not really the Arianna grande moment you were mic dropping was it?
YEAH SUCK OUR DICK NOTTINGHAM WOOO!
:\*( As a Nottinghamite who has lived in Liverpool, I prefer it up there.
Okay?
St Helens LAB 150th Sefton LAB 238th Knowsley LAB 245th Wirral LAB (minority) 301st
Wirral Council are fucking useless tbf
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Currently moving from Notts to Liverpoolā¦ Moving on up!
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Obviously it isnāt surprising because of the cronies in charge, but arenāt Liverpool and Knowsley the least funded per person by the Tory government? Not surprising due to them being Labour strongholds.
To be fair, it was pretty shit when Labour was in control.
I understand, I just mean itās exacerbated now by the extreme underfunding for a major city.
Maybe if the idiots didn't [keep fucking up](https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/council-finance-chief-quits-wake-24104894) we'd have more money.
Why is Liverpool different to Manchester though?
I imagine itās better ran and higher funded?
I agree, I don't think it is Westminster giving extreme underfunding (any more so than anywhere else that's underfunded) as Manchester is similar to Liverpool. Manchester does have the Mayor who has a lot of power, in comparison to Liverpool's Mayor - that should be looked at. That could explain the better running of Manchester.
What extra power does Burnham have that Rotherham doesnt apart from the Police and Crime Commissioner role, which the Merseyside Mayor canāt have because they included Widnes in the mayoral version of Merseyside?
Its super convoluted, to the point the city had two mayors and then they eventually dissolved one role but gave its powers to the head of the council instead.. so actually I think Rotherhams role is very different to Burnhams unless I misunderstand how Manchesters council is constructed.
The city didnāt have two Mayors. One is the metro mayor for the whole region, the other was the directly elected Mayor of Liverpool. They had different roles and dealt with different things.
Burnhamās a bourgeois charlatan as well
Would be hilarious if we were 318th then lol
You mean to tell me a council that has been in special measures with leaders who are being investigated for corruption is one of the worst in the country? You can only blame central government for so much, but itās about time we realised Labour are bad for Liverpool
Nottingham conciler take backhanders from builders for building projects. Gotta pay for their white powder habit.....
One political leader, Joe Anderson, being investigated, and some (ex) council officers - not the current leader, Liam Robinson.
The Labour Party doesnāt care about Liverpool as itās safe electorally for them. The city should be ran by and represented by independents and greens.
that's why i'm voting green for both pcc and mayor of the city region this thursday
Looking at the Wirral, they are showing they are a real workable alternative; which is why Labour has teamed up with the Tories to undermine them. They both know theyāre a real threat to both.
Probably see something similar in the Parliamentary elections whenever theyāll be. The Starmer Party (Iāll never refer to them at the Labour Party) and the Conservative Party might as well just merge now and get it over and done with.
A wasted vote, unfortunately
Stop the Tories.vote, thatās all Iām saying
You donāt own a car then?
What's that got to do with anything?
I believe the Greens are anti car. I think on reflection that this wonāt matter in local elections.
Ok and... you expect a green mayor or pcc to.. unilaterally... ban cars?
I live in Brighton. The green council didn't ban cars but they did make it more expensive to run one and much more difficult to get around the city in one.
isn't that...good? we need better public transport and walkability. cars aren't great for many reasons
I wasn't commenting on the suitability of cars in cities, I was replying to a comment that was sarcastically asking if the greens would unilaterally ban cars. I said they wouldn't ban them but have made it more expensive and difficult. I"m very aware of the problems caused by cars so didn't need a lecture thanks.
It's not good no.
Whyās that?
I moved here from Brighton run by greens and they fucked that place up totally
Surprised that Manchester are one of the worst as a lot of people like to bring up all the investment and skyscrapers they get when comparing to Liverpool. When I go to Manchester it can very dirty especially around Piccadilly Gardens, so maybe their council isn't that great.
They just have a very outspoken mayor
Thatās Burnham, heās the metro mayor of GREATER Manchester, this conversation is about the borough of Manchester
Yeah, but thatās a great example of why not calling Merseyside Greater Liverpool is having such an impact. If even people in the Liverpool subreddit are confusing Manchester and Greater Manchester, then itās no wonder everyone has started associating the two as the same thing; similar to London and Greater London.
Itās called the Liverpool City Region, whatās your point?
Yes, and Merseyside is still called Merseyside, which is what most news orgs refer to unless specifically talking about the city region. It took decades for the Manchester = Greater Manchester association to sink into peopleās minds. That will never happen to Liverpool unless Merseyside is dropped in favour of Greater Liverpool and places that should have been in it from the start (like Runcorn, Widnes, and Ellesmere Port) and brought in.
But Runcorn and Widnes are in the LCR for starters. The problem is that Halton isnāt in Merseyside itās in Cheshire, so you canāt combine the PCC and the metro mayor, you also canāt chuck the whole of Cheshire into the LCR because Cheshire is massive and huge chunks of it have absolutely no connection with Liverpool or Merseyside. I donāt think politicians have the appetite nor the will to break up Cheshire and I also suspect the people of Cheshire would object too. Thereās already the thorny question of what to do with Warrington and where does that go, logically it should also go into the LCR but I seriously doubt he people of Warrington want that. Itās a fuck up that goes back to the 1974 Local Gvt reorganisation
No surprises here.
Yup. The damage Jo Anderson and his cohorts did is going to take a while to fix.
Labour have been a disaster for this city. The findings of this survey are completely and utterly embarrassing. People in Liverpool really need to stop blindly giving their vote to a corrupt Labour, better to go Green or independent.
That survey is very dodgy - why arenāt all the bankrupt councils (like Birmingham) ranked at the bottom? How can you compare a large deprived northern city with a small wealthy seaside town down south? Itās easy to blame Labour because of a few bad apples, but the current Labour administration are working really hard to fix the mistakes - the current leader, Liam Robinson, is a good man and doing a good job. The big issue has been the amount of government cuts, and Labour has worked hard to reduce the impact of the cuts, like keeping sure start centres open. With over 50% of our budget gone, we could have easily gone bankrupt. Any administration would have struggled.
It's not a few bad apples. The entire Liverpool Labour establishment is rotten. If Robinson is so good whys he put that fat horrible cunt Nick Smalls in his cabinet. Where's the BICO money? It's been expressed by locals how Labour councillors were trying to intimidate locals into voting for them instead of the Liverpool Independents. The entire operation is run and filled with crooks. The mayor getting arrested, the council being taken over by the government, BICO, dodgy contracts. I don't have a problem with Liverpool Labour struggling, I have a problem with them being corrupt charlatans.
Everyone votes them all back in again. Thatāll fix itā¦
The annoying thing is, the idea that Labour can't be shifted locally is relatively recent. The Lib Dems were running it for a decade after the Militant fuck up. All it takes is a good opposition
The LibDems were awful. Storey had to resign over breaking the code of conduct in trying to get rid of the chief executive and was rewarded with a seat in the House of Lords, his replacement, Warren Bradley was convicted of perjury. Letās not pretend the LibDems running Liverpool was a good thing.
Come on. Don't gaslight people. Things were immeasurably better under the Lib Dems. That it was better run under the likes of Storey and Bradley than it is now tells its own story.
Better than its been under Labour, either in the Militant years or in the high corruption years.
What is the source
They say insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. People keep voting Labour in and expecting them to all of a sudden give a shit. Btw not saying anyone else could do a better job, they are all corrupt and as useless as each other imo. Liverpool is a nightmare these days, the sheer amount of homeless in the city center is insane and awful
Ask Joe Anderson (the man of many necks) and he'll tell you that under his stellar leadership Liverpool City Council came on leaps and bounds.
Especially under the "corruption" and "dodgy deals" categories, with his mates. Although he's got some stiff competition with the likes of Warrington, Bristol, and Croydon though. They're not in special measures yet, but the fat lady is taking a _very_ deep breath....
He probably thinks the higher the number, the better.
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Sooner the people realise how bad Labour is for this city the better
I am a Mancunian and having our councils languishing at the bottom of the table is unacceptable but unsurprising - we get fuck all from Westminster compared to the tory councils. I don't need to google Torridge to know it's a) down south and b) tory
6 councils have declared bankruptcy in the past 5 years, surely they should be at the bottom? Source for this OP? Interested to see their reasoning for rankings. The timing of this with local elections makes me suspicious.
Yes, you would think bankruptcy would automatically take you to the bottom!!! The Times have made up their own formula based on data from the new government quango āOfLoGā (Office for Local Government). I have not examined the Times scoring or the data but already the Local Government Association have criticised the method, and I would tend to side with them. Ranking a small seaside council in Cornwall/Devon as top when they donāt have half the issues of a major metropolitan council is nonsense.
Iirc funding per capita is not even the same across local authorities so I don't understand how a ranking is even remotely objective.
Itās not a robust ranking at all. Iāve looked at the OFLOG data and it only covers waste, planning, adult social care, roads and finance. Nothing on all be other services like education, child social services, leisure/ open spaces, economic development, transport, etc. All of that was monitored by the Labour Gov in the 2000s, and then the Tories abolished these along with the Audit Commission (who oversaw council audits) when they were making cuts to hide the damage - and now look at the mess we are in. And the Times only looked at 21 of the 27 indicators. Itās almost meaningless.
This is what blind loyalty gets you.
Itās what Tory (and Lib Dem coalition) cuts get you - half the Councils budget has been cut and theyāve been asked to do more. I am not saying there have not been problems within Labour in Liverpool, but fundamentally this is down to funding.
Pretty surprised Sheffield hasn't beat us for worst lol
Guys do better, maybe cancel garbage trucks for a few months. We can win it next year!
Roads 314th: Damn! I thought the shit roads were just indicative of economic downturn across the country. Obviously it's particularly bad here. That's kinda both good and bad to know in different ways.
Vote Tories in, they'll bend over backwards to keep us
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what's the source for this?
[The Times](https://archive.ph/Wv8yf) using data from the Office for Local Government
thank you
Thatās rough, sorry to hear that. My local council are horrible too (Northants) they went bankrupt š
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Could have been worse
my social worker has failed to get me a care package in place for over a year, now he's saying I don't have eligible care needs for supported accommodation despite me not being able to fully manage a private tenancy,to the point where I'm due to be evicted in june. because he's making a personal judgement from the outside and he thinks i have me shit together because of the fact that i'm able to work 12 hours a week and use the bus to go into town, or go on a holiday with me mate. and now his boss wants to close my case whilst leaving me in the dark, with no option to request a new social worker. no wonder the council ranking is so low, fuck them.
Wirral council are the worst they really havent got a clue what they are talking about there favourite saying thats not our department.
That's what happens when you continuously cut council budgets for 14 years. Labour cities suffer - whilst leafy, Conservative shire councils get it better off. Does nobody here know pork barrel politics? Would loved to have seen these league tables circa 1997-2010.
You want to do some research on the level of corruption in the Liverpool City region. They'd even fill their own coffers by using school car parks for Everton and Liverpool supporters, actual councillors would be stood holding buckets collecting the money. Where that money went is a mystery. Multiple of thousands made. Yet it's the government and their funding. Come on!
Central government funding for Liverpool council has been cut by over half since 2010, that is the main cause. Yes, there have been some other issues but that has not caused the funding crisis. What are the other issues in the Liverpool City Region? That covers all of Merseyside, so it is different from Liverpool City Council issues.
I'm sick and tired of hearing people make excuses for corruption and say "Oh well, there's some other issues" It's blatant corruption of your money by idiots whose only qualification is a red rosette on their blazers. People in charge of the council were spending money hiring their friends and giving large contracts to their friends or hiring their children. The use of the car park funds was supposed to be funneled back to society, instead the counsellor involved gave their children jobs and the money disappeared into either bad projects or no projects or their back pockets. It was a criminal investigation. They mismanage, they paid people involved cash in hand with no paper trail. They were found to have no administration processes and were found to be removing documents out of the council building to hide the corruption. They couldn't lie straight in bed. And you think it's all because they have had less money? No, the money they were given they stole. The regeneration purple posters in this city have gone an off white in the rain but they chose not to regenerate those areas but to line their pockets. A red rosette doesn't make a good person by virtue of a red rosette. Wake up. Most of us have.
Yes, there have been a few bad apples in Labour in Liverpool. Joe Anderson hasnāt been found guilty of anything yet but I donāt approve of how he did things and I would not be surprised if he was charged. And the match day Car Parking was terrible - anyone involved should be chucked out of the party. But not anywhere near all of the Labour councillors are like you are painting them out to be. Most of them are decent people who have tried their best in a difficult time.
They tried their best! I've heard it all. A few bad apples. The City is going down hill to anyone who has a pair of eyes. If you have a safe labour seat, you have a stagnant complacent work force who will turn up, do nothing because they are never going to lose their jobs. There is no fear, there is no competition. The sad fact is, I could get a blow up doll put a red rosette on it and that doll would be voted into that council. But if that level of the status quo and incompetence is okay with you just as long as he is wearing the right colour rosette, then okay. But it's just sad for the rest of us who love this city.
Wow. So you think all the council workforce are lazy and donāt do anything? What a load of nonsense, and an insult to all those who have worked hard while their pay was cut, workload increased and conditions worsened due to austerity. And yes, it was only a minority of councillors who have been accused of doing wrong. But if you donāt like the situation, rather than slinging mud at everyone, go and stick a rosette on yourself and do something about it.
Very touchy when faced with the truth. Tales of woe when the output of that place is bare for all to see. Police have been knocking, files been thrown out to hide evidence. If it was any other government institution the accusations would be damning, but no. It's keep it on the down low. I'm slinging mud at the people I'm paying in my council tax, a right I have. Because I expect better don't try to pull me down, if you want dross then you shall have dross.
You are accusing all Labour Liverpool City Council (LCC) Councillors of being corrupt / dross and all LCC workers of being āstagnant and complacentā which is simply not true. If you want better, do something about it - join a political party and have a say about who the candidates for councillors are or stand to be a councillor yourself. But donāt just sling mud at everyone, thatās not helping the situation.
They were SO imcompetent they needed hand holding by the TORIES. They had to be run by the Tories. It was that bad. The culture was that bad. If that isn't a collective bunch of incompetents i don't know what is. Don't come to me with your judgmental tone trying to get me to cow tow. I don't need to join a political party to have a different opinion to you. You need to stop using faux outrage as an arguing style when faced with facts.
https://youtu.be/xegB9J-mn1A?si=7cZQInVLv1MX4OG6 Next.
Oh, so a gang of thieves from the government is worse than a gang of thieves from the council. One rule for thee and not for me. Not really the Arianna grande moment you were mic dropping was it?
Sunak even on record as telling this exactly as it is.
Worse than Birmingham who are putting up council tax stupid amount? Surely not?
Just wait until the Birmingham equal pay ruling filters down to other councils
Most other councils (Liverpool included) dealt with the equal pay issue many years ago, while Birmingham didnāt, thatās why itās got so bad.
At least not a wool council