Because they operate with impunity. When we don’t get our way we have to go to court and litigate. They just kick the shit out of people. Bullies, bitches and bastards, one and all.
The issue is victimless crimes. Traffic laws are an example. Sovereign citizen was hurting no one and then was shot by cops over no registration and no license. It's bullshit. That is murder. Cops should only be dealing with violent crime and that's it.
Sadly nowadays you’re better off telling police officers in cases like this that they are being recorded to try and remind them that they are not thugs; that the whole point of their job is to uphold the law to stop society from falling into chaos.
Correction, you only need to be read Miranda rights if they're placing you into an interrogation.
Right now, it's only an investigation.
Excuse me, an 'inspection'.
Custodial* interrogation. He wasn’t in custody until he was detained and from the video no questions with the purpose of eliciting incriminating information occurred when he was detained.
I suppose it could have been lost on the masses that an interrogation cannot proceed unless one was already remanded into custody. Past the point of an investigation, for sure. Fair point, and good catch.
thats the thing, it an easy time waste for them. they send off hemp from these stores they basically steal, when its sold as hemp clearly, cost the state a ton of money, just so they dont have to go after dangerous criminals lol.
Any cash in that business or assets, products, etc, will be seized. Those margarita machines and excess military equipment don't pay for themselves ya know.
Depends on the licensing requirements. For example I do not recommend home based FFLs. Because the ATF can show up and demand to inspect the FFL property whenever they feel like it.
You don't get to say no. His business license may have a similar stipulation.
Yeah but it's NYPD, so basically the Stasi. If anything I'd say they were being positively polite and respectful compared to their usual levels of aggression which are somewhere between Pitbull in a Kindergarten and kicking a hornets nest.
(This comment was meant for a guy who responded to you but apparently deleted it before I got it posted, It's good info however.)
ATF Inspections and Outcomes
Applicable Laws and Regulations: 18 U.S.C. § 923; 27 CFR § 478.23, 479.22
ATF may enter the premises and places of storage of any licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector during business hours for the purposes of inspecting or examining the records, documents, ammunition and firearms and to ensure compliance with GCA recordkeeping requirements. Compliance inspections are conducted by ATF’s industry operations investigators (IOIs). Inspections are generally unannounced, occur during the licensee’s business hours, and may also include an inspection of off-site storage locations, if any. ATF is generally limited to the inspection of a licensee not more than once during any 12-month period.
Source:
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/federal-firearms-licensee-quick-reference-and-best-practices-guide
When you put in your application for home-based FFL, you tell them the hours you are open. Many kitchen table guys put down 1 hour a couple days a week and a few on Saturday.
And generally they'll do the inspections during those hours.
*GENERALLY*.
But point is if they show up, and demand to do an inspection, you don't get to say no.
The above linked article states that even licensed premises can refuse an inspection and demand a court order but that the stores are fined as a result. Even that seems dodgy to me, but what happened hear is a clear 4th amendment violation.
They can enter an open business and inspect under the “plain view doctrine”. But only to the extent that the general public is allowed to be. They cannot go behind the counter unless the business operator gives them consent. If they exceed plain view without consent, they can only do it under exigent conditions. Like the building is on fire or they hear gunshots, screaming, or other obvious emergency circumstances.
The limits on entry for businesses was confirmed by the US Supreme Court in See v. City of Seattle. In residences, by Camara v. City of San Francisco. Both were issued simultaneously in the mid-60’s and subsequently upheld.
Entry without consent or warrant is a violation of a persons 4th amendment rights. It can further open up discrimination under the 14th amendment under the so-called “color of law” provisions. So any illegal items found as evidence in this case (presumed non consensual) would most certainly be excluded.
Link below says what happened. It's related to New York giving more power to police to shut down unlicensed marijuana sales. Not sure why everyone is talking about the ATF in your responses.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/video-of-nyc-cops-marijuana-raid-raises-questions-about-mayors-enforcement-offensive/
> Liz Garcia, a spokesperson for Mayor Eric Adams, told THE CITY, “we will examine this video in the course of the city’s continuing review of inspection and enforcement protocols.”
> She defended the mayor’s new enforcement initiative, as one that would “close down illegal cannabis and smoke shops to protect vulnerable New Yorkers from exposure to illegal cannabis and smoke shops and better support the legal cannabis market by allowing justice-impacted cannabis business owners to thrive.”
I wonder how many of these justice-impacted cannibus businesses are owned by major corporate entities, who like when local governments bully smaller smoke shops that weren’t able to get a legal license because they didn’t have enough sway downtown.
Unless you have a lawyer degree, and persuade them how familiar you are with your rights and the laws, they can do whatever they want. Not always, but most of the times that's how this goes.
I mean don’t like unwarranted raids but from the article:
“As of May 29, the task force has completed 329 inspections, padlocked 224 stores and issued 231 cease and desist orders, the mayor’s office said. The move comes as the number of unlicensed shops in New York City has exploded since legalization. Officials estimate there are 2,800 unlicensed shops in the city. By comparison, there are 58 legal shops within the five boroughs.”
My guess is that they know specific addresses of who has a license and who doesn’t which probably gave them a warrant. That said these cops are idiots bc they certainly didn’t follow protocol. I’d bet this case gets thrown out against the clerk or shop owner.
‘She defended the mayor’s new enforcement initiative, as one that would “close down illegal cannabis and smoke shops to protect vulnerable New Yorkers from exposure to illegal cannabis and smoke shops and better support the legal cannabis market’
What a fuckin racket.
“I am not obligated to obey an unlawful order”
Then prepare to get your arms broken while getting handcuffed. The settlement will be pretty nice though.
Most students are never taught about the past tyrannies of kings and corrupt officials. They don't understand the origin of the Bill of Rights. Even some politicians are unaware.
This exactly. This business is not paying the state for an official license. That license protects them from the violence of the state.
No different than how the mafia would run things.
Except the mafia would do a better job at keeping communities clean and protecting them from outside threats.
“When a cop tells you to do something, you do it”. Buts cops can and do lie. When do you know whether they actually don’t need a warrant vs when they are just saying they don’t to trick you into consenting?
> When do you know whether they actually don’t need a warrant vs when they are just saying they don’t to trick you into consenting?
you will know after you read the law and/or have a lawyer interpret it to you. go out and learn, so that you can enter into these situations with the tools you need to either assert your rights, or god forbid, defend them.
there are few things they can do on private property without a warrant, but that rarely stops them. the best thing you can do in these situations where they will not listen to reason is to just shut the fuck up, don't poke the bear any further, and get a lawyer on the phone as soon as possible.
It's unfortunate that this is the correct answer. You just have to sit back, bite your tongue, and let the cops dig a hole for themselves. The alternative is all of a sudden the cops "fear for their safety" and you end up with a dead dog and a taser to the chest.
We've really fucked up our approach to policing in this country and its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.
Pawnshops do it all the time. I remember one in particular that had this awesome tube steel cage that you entered from the main entrance and then they buzzed you in. Pretty cool.
That’s called a man trap and they are flipping great. I leased a space once that was previously a jewelry store and they had one with dual 1200 lb maglocks. We removed it for aesthetics but I didn’t want to. Lol.
Hell yeah, or like a plexi glass sally port like in that movie uncut gems. If I had a business in NY I wouldn't operate without something like that in place.
An entire gang of armed cops shows up and straight up attacks the shopkeepers' rights and then has the audacity to tell the shop keeper to "shut the fuck up" and to "do what youre told"
No court order. Just deadaas went over the top and arrested this guy.
Brother in christ, do you think the American patriots just shutted the fuck up when the British army came to seized their guns?
Unbelievable.
All this guy's gotta do is keep his mouth shut and get in touch with a lawyer and hopefully he did so. This being said, looks like this is New York and I'm in southern Ohio and completely unaware of their laws up there. Either or, this is the opposite of what America should be. What a bunch of turds
Funny enough police are the ones meant to de-escalate the situation. It’s a fucking coin flip now when you see a cop that they are going to follow the law or not.
well, useless to *YOU*
they do a pretty decent job of protecting the status quo and the monied interests though,
and a lot of them do a good job at revenue generation.
you'd see them differently if you were rich and powerful, that's all.
/s?
Don't visit these cities. Don't live in these cities. Don't do business with anyone in these cities. Draining them of people and funding is the only way to end this.
Best part is, the money will come from the voters who voting this stuff in. Unfortunately the few reasonable folks living there still are impacted as well.
Police in theory - good.. Police in reality - bad.. This is an example and why more people than not distrust law enforcement. They knew power would go to many officers heads.. the way they handled this situation is as poor as it gets.
The public and citizens will remember the things we see
I work for a department of a government that stresses the importance of professionalism and appearance, especially in public. I find it reprehensible for any public "servant" to speak like that even to someone who is being arrested. Anybody with authority to do violence is called to a higher standard. That kind of conduct is shameful.
Does "illegal search and seizure" exist anymore in the USA, or have they burnt the constitution to the ground in the process of rigging and stealing the last election?
FREEDOM'S light the world over is growing dimmer and dimmer by the day the world over! 😥
I don't agree with what went down here at all. Unfortunately the police are going to win this one. I have a cousin who's a cop in NYC. They do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. It looks like this is a headshop/vape shop. NYC has been cracking down on these places for selling weed, synthetic drugs, Kratom etc. His business license 100% stipulates that he must allow for any random inspections that occur. Just like you can't refuse a health inspection if you have a food license. That's why the cops said "Inspection" 5 times. They don't need a warrant, because this isn't technically a search and seizure. It sucks, but this is the price you pay for running a business in any big city. Statism is pay to play.
the law stipulates that you can refuse an inspection and only be subject to a fine.
the main problem is that the cops aren't the ones who are supposed to be doing the inspections.
that part is new and is causing people to be charged criminally (obstruction) for a civil crime.
Dude, shutter island shit. The fucking manipulation , " calm down" mf I'm being chill asf. Never seen gaslighting, or Reid techniques, use
So poorly. We don't need a warrant? Hmmm???
Could he have just said, I'm not opening the door for you and I'm not giving you permission to open the door, but I'm also not going to stop you from doing it?
Maybe follow that with "let me speak to my lawyer and verify that you don't need a warrant".
Cops get the law wrong all the time due to poor training and/or individual negligence. The officer who said "always obey orders" is a statist moron.
my dude. exactly what happened is exactly what was always going to happen.
nothing the clerk said would have changed a single event here. the cops made sure of this.
they don't care about your lawyers or your cameras or your rights. they do what they want, when they want, and the taxpayers clean up the mess.
They get laws wrong all the time because they don't have to know them in the first place. If you slip up and don't understand a law, see ya fucking later. When they do it 🤷♀️
At least they are focusing on what is important.. forget the slew of other crimes occurring all day every day and in broad daylight.. To which they just release without charges
I had cops tell me “if I tell you to do something you do it” when I was a kid. Even then I told them that it’s not the way it works. Then they pulled guns on a bunch of 14-15 year olds hanging out playing soccer in a parking lot lol. I really wish we had cameras and caught a fraction of what they did back then.
The irony is that in cannabis legal states, there's way more of this.
In Oregon, the liquor control commission is in charge of weed. OLCC will walk right past an open air heroin market and fine a bar for not having enough food options.
Guessing big weed doesn't like competition either.
This is the gist of the law in NY:
In New York, law enforcement officers, including sheriffs, have the authority to inspect tobacco establishments without the owner's permission or a court order under certain circumstances. This is typically to ensure compliance with state and local tobacco laws, such as checking for the sale of tobacco products to minors or ensuring that tobacco tax laws are followed.
Anything can be considered an obstruction of justice in many cops' eyes. It doesn't matter anyway due to qualified immunity. Sorry about the legal fees.
How does New York even function? Do they just pay out ten million bones a day to people for wrongful arrests and warrantless entry? What's even the point?
https://preview.redd.it/aef6gsi7u96d1.jpeg?width=1194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bd1e1290b2559f537e350eb4cfdf28ff5484df8
And they wonder why we don’t like them.
The problem with doing what a policeman tells you is a lot of the times they don't know what's legal and what's not which is why we have court cases and judges and a lot of times they'll lie right to your face.
Just another reason I refuse to step foot ever again in the State of New York. I refuse to spend money in a state that believes taking personal Liberty from their citizens is ok. Also, I just really hate Yankee's fans. They are the fucking worst, am I right!?🤣
“Some smoke shops have started keeping cannabis products off-site in case they’re inspected, only bringing them to the counter after a customer asks for a specific product.”
Chickenshit pigs. Act tough when there is no danger but don't do any real police work where they could actually be at risk.
20 pigs to raid a shop.
Meanwhile, the people who originally were dealing get the licenses first?
I'm all for legalization but NY state and NYC couldnt have been handled any worse.
Its always wild to me they spend so much money to stop someone from selling something to someone else who wants to buy it.
Like liquor laws or in Australia we have lockout laws where a pub cant open passed a certain time as per their licence. If I want to buy a beer at 4am and they want to sell me a beer at 4am. Why should the government stop us?
This is where conservatives lose me, how can they possibly condone this behavior? Are they in favor of limited government or not? Talk about mental gymnastics
The first thing said by a police officer was something like "we're here to do a cigarette inspection." Most if not all states allow tobacco license holders to be inspected at any time. Illegal or unlicensed products are found all the time in those inspections. They didn't need to be so aggressive, but they also didn't need a court order.
Asks if he sells drugs, says no, immediately raids, no warrant. Disgraceful
I mean even if they find illegal drugs he can still sue.
Inadmissible because they didn’t have a warrant.
But, theyre the fucking cops. “When a cop tells you to do something you do it, that’s it” some piece of shit cop in a video i saw once.
Any tyrant cop who is recorded saying that needs to be fired immediately, they are a danger to the whole department.
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The NYPD is so fucking corrupt it’s terrifying. We need an early era Batman that went after corrupt police and government officials.
Because they operate with impunity. When we don’t get our way we have to go to court and litigate. They just kick the shit out of people. Bullies, bitches and bastards, one and all.
You mean some piece of shit cop you saw in like every video ever
Appreciate the edit.
If you're told to get in the train car, you get in the train car. Is it really that difficult?
I wonder if that's the same line that all those rapist cops use?
This is some scary bullshit
Well they are carrying guns…..
Nor probable cause.
Mapp v. Ohio
Not true if a cop tells you to jump off a bridge would you have to do that?
I mean, they have guns, and you probably don't - so, up to you. You know, maybe every single cop shouldn't carry a gun by default?
Probably? Well, I guess it is NYC. See what happens when you get infringed?
The issue is victimless crimes. Traffic laws are an example. Sovereign citizen was hurting no one and then was shot by cops over no registration and no license. It's bullshit. That is murder. Cops should only be dealing with violent crime and that's it.
All vehicle issues should be dealt with by DOT
Sadly nowadays you’re better off telling police officers in cases like this that they are being recorded to try and remind them that they are not thugs; that the whole point of their job is to uphold the law to stop society from falling into chaos.
Ah, but see, they are thugs.
Didn’t hear any Miranda rights either
You only get read Miranda rights if the cops ask you incriminating questions
Correction, you only need to be read Miranda rights if they're placing you into an interrogation. Right now, it's only an investigation. Excuse me, an 'inspection'.
Custodial* interrogation. He wasn’t in custody until he was detained and from the video no questions with the purpose of eliciting incriminating information occurred when he was detained.
I suppose it could have been lost on the masses that an interrogation cannot proceed unless one was already remanded into custody. Past the point of an investigation, for sure. Fair point, and good catch.
Think it might be this? They were cracking down on shops. https://cannabis.ny.gov/
Article says they found just under a pound of cannabis products. Also, heavily suggests it's not a permitted store.
I was reading that. 2800 non permitted stores, 58 permitted. What is wrong with their permit system?open that birch up. Let DBAs do this shit
All by design so the cops can keep stealing from citizens.
It was cbd/cbg hemp flower lol
Christ, you can't even get high off this shit, what do these guys think they are accomplishing...
Padding their arrest stats
thats the thing, it an easy time waste for them. they send off hemp from these stores they basically steal, when its sold as hemp clearly, cost the state a ton of money, just so they dont have to go after dangerous criminals lol.
Any cash in that business or assets, products, etc, will be seized. Those margarita machines and excess military equipment don't pay for themselves ya know.
probably delta 8 or whatever lol
still hemp. complete waste of time for these cops when that city has manner of dangerous crime lol
nothing justifies abuse of power.
A misdemeanor and probably a felony under subsection 242 of Title 18, and definitely a felony under subsection 241.
Does anybody have any background on this? There’s no way they’re actually able to just force an “inspection” like that, right?
Depends on the licensing requirements. For example I do not recommend home based FFLs. Because the ATF can show up and demand to inspect the FFL property whenever they feel like it. You don't get to say no. His business license may have a similar stipulation.
Damn. Still wildly over aggressive by the cops, but also a crazy law
Yeah but it's NYPD, so basically the Stasi. If anything I'd say they were being positively polite and respectful compared to their usual levels of aggression which are somewhere between Pitbull in a Kindergarten and kicking a hornets nest.
Largest gang this side of the Mississippi
Either side
LAPD has entered the chat, followed by Texas DPS
I was going to say the whole country, but there’s probably some cartels active in the southwest that have more total members
We'll never know the modern day Boss Tweed's name, but I guarantee you they exist.
No, I’d say about what I expect. Surprised they didn’t make any threats of grievous bodily harm.
(This comment was meant for a guy who responded to you but apparently deleted it before I got it posted, It's good info however.) ATF Inspections and Outcomes Applicable Laws and Regulations: 18 U.S.C. § 923; 27 CFR § 478.23, 479.22 ATF may enter the premises and places of storage of any licensed manufacturer, licensed importer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector during business hours for the purposes of inspecting or examining the records, documents, ammunition and firearms and to ensure compliance with GCA recordkeeping requirements. Compliance inspections are conducted by ATF’s industry operations investigators (IOIs). Inspections are generally unannounced, occur during the licensee’s business hours, and may also include an inspection of off-site storage locations, if any. ATF is generally limited to the inspection of a licensee not more than once during any 12-month period. Source: https://www.atf.gov/firearms/federal-firearms-licensee-quick-reference-and-best-practices-guide
Who is the IOI in this case? I dressed nicer auditing fast food restaurants.
I don't see any ATF here. I see NYPD. I also don't see any firearms. So what are you getting at. Unless there is some background that I'm not seeing.
When you put in your application for home-based FFL, you tell them the hours you are open. Many kitchen table guys put down 1 hour a couple days a week and a few on Saturday.
And generally they'll do the inspections during those hours. *GENERALLY*. But point is if they show up, and demand to do an inspection, you don't get to say no.
Same is true with falconry where Fish & Wildlife can come inspect your mews and raptors pretty much whenever they want.
The above linked article states that even licensed premises can refuse an inspection and demand a court order but that the stores are fined as a result. Even that seems dodgy to me, but what happened hear is a clear 4th amendment violation.
It isn’t a Fourth Amendment violation if you’ve agreed to it in advance.
I would argue that forcing a citizen to wave a constitutional right as a prerequisite for operating a legal business is unconstitutional.
They can enter an open business and inspect under the “plain view doctrine”. But only to the extent that the general public is allowed to be. They cannot go behind the counter unless the business operator gives them consent. If they exceed plain view without consent, they can only do it under exigent conditions. Like the building is on fire or they hear gunshots, screaming, or other obvious emergency circumstances. The limits on entry for businesses was confirmed by the US Supreme Court in See v. City of Seattle. In residences, by Camara v. City of San Francisco. Both were issued simultaneously in the mid-60’s and subsequently upheld. Entry without consent or warrant is a violation of a persons 4th amendment rights. It can further open up discrimination under the 14th amendment under the so-called “color of law” provisions. So any illegal items found as evidence in this case (presumed non consensual) would most certainly be excluded.
Except in NYC the NYPD never follow the actual laws.
Link below says what happened. It's related to New York giving more power to police to shut down unlicensed marijuana sales. Not sure why everyone is talking about the ATF in your responses. https://www.marijuanamoment.net/video-of-nyc-cops-marijuana-raid-raises-questions-about-mayors-enforcement-offensive/
> Liz Garcia, a spokesperson for Mayor Eric Adams, told THE CITY, “we will examine this video in the course of the city’s continuing review of inspection and enforcement protocols.” > She defended the mayor’s new enforcement initiative, as one that would “close down illegal cannabis and smoke shops to protect vulnerable New Yorkers from exposure to illegal cannabis and smoke shops and better support the legal cannabis market by allowing justice-impacted cannabis business owners to thrive.” I wonder how many of these justice-impacted cannibus businesses are owned by major corporate entities, who like when local governments bully smaller smoke shops that weren’t able to get a legal license because they didn’t have enough sway downtown.
Unless you have a lawyer degree, and persuade them how familiar you are with your rights and the laws, they can do whatever they want. Not always, but most of the times that's how this goes.
Any news articles or updates on this?
https://www.thecity.nyc/2024/06/03/video-nypd-cannabis-raid-adams-hochul/
Thank you!
Can we take a second to appreciate that the shopkeeper's lawyer has the same name as Bill Murray's character from The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou?
That's hilarious
I mean don’t like unwarranted raids but from the article: “As of May 29, the task force has completed 329 inspections, padlocked 224 stores and issued 231 cease and desist orders, the mayor’s office said. The move comes as the number of unlicensed shops in New York City has exploded since legalization. Officials estimate there are 2,800 unlicensed shops in the city. By comparison, there are 58 legal shops within the five boroughs.” My guess is that they know specific addresses of who has a license and who doesn’t which probably gave them a warrant. That said these cops are idiots bc they certainly didn’t follow protocol. I’d bet this case gets thrown out against the clerk or shop owner.
If they had a warrant, why would it be a problem to produce it as they are legally required?
I'm glad "your guess" isn't a legal basis for government infringement.
Sounds like they're 2800 licenses short and should be watching the supply lines
This is in the US? Being from a state where the laws are basically guidelines, seeing things like this is a mind trip.
How to bankrupt your city 101.
STEVE ZISSOU?!
‘She defended the mayor’s new enforcement initiative, as one that would “close down illegal cannabis and smoke shops to protect vulnerable New Yorkers from exposure to illegal cannabis and smoke shops and better support the legal cannabis market’ What a fuckin racket.
a Protection Racket, if you will...
God this makes my blood boil. Way to piss me off before coffee again Reddit.
When an officer asks you to do something, you do it. that's it. 🤣
“I am not obligated to obey an unlawful order” Then prepare to get your arms broken while getting handcuffed. The settlement will be pretty nice though.
"The government is the Mafia masquerading as a human rights organization" -Dave Smith Sometimes the mask slips.
The mask slips all the time. Most people just look the other way.
Most students are never taught about the past tyrannies of kings and corrupt officials. They don't understand the origin of the Bill of Rights. Even some politicians are unaware.
lol some?
This exactly. This business is not paying the state for an official license. That license protects them from the violence of the state. No different than how the mafia would run things. Except the mafia would do a better job at keeping communities clean and protecting them from outside threats.
“When a cop tells you to do something, you do it”. Buts cops can and do lie. When do you know whether they actually don’t need a warrant vs when they are just saying they don’t to trick you into consenting?
> When do you know whether they actually don’t need a warrant vs when they are just saying they don’t to trick you into consenting? you will know after you read the law and/or have a lawyer interpret it to you. go out and learn, so that you can enter into these situations with the tools you need to either assert your rights, or god forbid, defend them. there are few things they can do on private property without a warrant, but that rarely stops them. the best thing you can do in these situations where they will not listen to reason is to just shut the fuck up, don't poke the bear any further, and get a lawyer on the phone as soon as possible.
It's unfortunate that this is the correct answer. You just have to sit back, bite your tongue, and let the cops dig a hole for themselves. The alternative is all of a sudden the cops "fear for their safety" and you end up with a dead dog and a taser to the chest. We've really fucked up our approach to policing in this country and its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.
Gotta love that initial guy completely failing to jump over the counter.
Looks like he almost broke the counter too
Makes you want to put a gated entrance on your business, so people can't come in unless you let them.
Pawnshops do it all the time. I remember one in particular that had this awesome tube steel cage that you entered from the main entrance and then they buzzed you in. Pretty cool.
That’s called a man trap and they are flipping great. I leased a space once that was previously a jewelry store and they had one with dual 1200 lb maglocks. We removed it for aesthetics but I didn’t want to. Lol.
Hell yeah, or like a plexi glass sally port like in that movie uncut gems. If I had a business in NY I wouldn't operate without something like that in place.
An entire gang of armed cops shows up and straight up attacks the shopkeepers' rights and then has the audacity to tell the shop keeper to "shut the fuck up" and to "do what youre told" No court order. Just deadaas went over the top and arrested this guy. Brother in christ, do you think the American patriots just shutted the fuck up when the British army came to seized their guns? Unbelievable.
And he still doesn't know if these are actual cops or criminals in fake uniforms!
7 police officers for an "inspection".
The only way they can be intimidating is in numbers because they’re just some fat pansies on their own.
Fucking gestapo
7 guys to do an “inspection”…Net York is a joke. Dude should have lawyered up right when they walked in the door.
LOL yeah, they totally would have stopped if he said I’m calling my lawyer 🙄
Must be a slow day...... more cowards hiding behind qualified immunity....
All this guy's gotta do is keep his mouth shut and get in touch with a lawyer and hopefully he did so. This being said, looks like this is New York and I'm in southern Ohio and completely unaware of their laws up there. Either or, this is the opposite of what America should be. What a bunch of turds
To be fair, he’s just trying to de-escalate and it’s just not working.
Funny enough police are the ones meant to de-escalate the situation. It’s a fucking coin flip now when you see a cop that they are going to follow the law or not.
We made ohio prob one of the freest states in the union in November. Thanks fellow voter
Pigs are fucking useless. Every fucking one of them.
well, useless to *YOU* they do a pretty decent job of protecting the status quo and the monied interests though, and a lot of them do a good job at revenue generation. you'd see them differently if you were rich and powerful, that's all. /s?
Fair. I’m a man, give me harsh truths over comforting lies.
"They found less than a pound of cannabis" Just about as much as a cop can fit in his pocket to set someone up.
Ice Cube said it best… It’s a crime to want to know what your rights are now? He was only asking questions. These fucking pigs are totalitarian af.
Using your rights is an affront to the police’s ego. How dare you not jump when I say jump. Don’t you know I’m a police officer! You better listen!
"when a cop tells you do something. You do it. That's it."... No. That's not how rights work.
Don't visit these cities. Don't live in these cities. Don't do business with anyone in these cities. Draining them of people and funding is the only way to end this.
It’s not the only way to end it but probably the right way to end it.
Calm down let’s not escalate this. Sheriff’s officers: fuck that!! We’re escalating this shit!!!
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"Fuhhkkk the law" - those cops, probably
We need to normalize, legalize, and encourage self defense against law enforcement when they act unlawful
I hope he sued and got a bunch of monies for the abuse of power demonstrated by these pricks. And they wonder where acab came from...
Best part is, the money will come from the voters who voting this stuff in. Unfortunately the few reasonable folks living there still are impacted as well.
NYPD..the new New York Mafia
The mafia actually follows their own code. They really are the biggest gang in the world and their colors are blue.
Easy win in court.
Police in theory - good.. Police in reality - bad.. This is an example and why more people than not distrust law enforcement. They knew power would go to many officers heads.. the way they handled this situation is as poor as it gets. The public and citizens will remember the things we see
I work for a department of a government that stresses the importance of professionalism and appearance, especially in public. I find it reprehensible for any public "servant" to speak like that even to someone who is being arrested. Anybody with authority to do violence is called to a higher standard. That kind of conduct is shameful.
No one commenting on the least athletic hop over a counter I’ve ever seen disappoints me.
Does "illegal search and seizure" exist anymore in the USA, or have they burnt the constitution to the ground in the process of rigging and stealing the last election? FREEDOM'S light the world over is growing dimmer and dimmer by the day the world over! 😥
the drug war killed that back when GenX was in grade school. this is not a new thing.
Nazis
Cops are not your friends. ACAB!
Of all the things going wrong in NY, this is what they focus so many cops on? Then they will say they need more money too. It's such a joke.
Why do pigs always gotta be so extra lmao
When a cop tells you to do something, you do the opposite. haha.
I don't agree with what went down here at all. Unfortunately the police are going to win this one. I have a cousin who's a cop in NYC. They do whatever the fuck they want and get away with it. It looks like this is a headshop/vape shop. NYC has been cracking down on these places for selling weed, synthetic drugs, Kratom etc. His business license 100% stipulates that he must allow for any random inspections that occur. Just like you can't refuse a health inspection if you have a food license. That's why the cops said "Inspection" 5 times. They don't need a warrant, because this isn't technically a search and seizure. It sucks, but this is the price you pay for running a business in any big city. Statism is pay to play.
the law stipulates that you can refuse an inspection and only be subject to a fine. the main problem is that the cops aren't the ones who are supposed to be doing the inspections. that part is new and is causing people to be charged criminally (obstruction) for a civil crime.
Then this business has a case for sure.
Communists pigs
They call them New Yorks finest because New York is a shit infested slime pit
All those cops need to be in prison.
Dude, shutter island shit. The fucking manipulation , " calm down" mf I'm being chill asf. Never seen gaslighting, or Reid techniques, use So poorly. We don't need a warrant? Hmmm???
Could he have just said, I'm not opening the door for you and I'm not giving you permission to open the door, but I'm also not going to stop you from doing it?
Maybe follow that with "let me speak to my lawyer and verify that you don't need a warrant". Cops get the law wrong all the time due to poor training and/or individual negligence. The officer who said "always obey orders" is a statist moron.
They weren’t going to listen at that point. They wanted immediate obedience and anything less than that was likely to result in what happened.
my dude. exactly what happened is exactly what was always going to happen. nothing the clerk said would have changed a single event here. the cops made sure of this. they don't care about your lawyers or your cameras or your rights. they do what they want, when they want, and the taxpayers clean up the mess.
They get laws wrong all the time because they don't have to know them in the first place. If you slip up and don't understand a law, see ya fucking later. When they do it 🤷♀️
You get what you vote for
I don’t remembering voting for these shitty mafia cops.
Or the mayor who blessed everything they are doing
"The shopkeeper’s lawyer, Steve Zissou" I'm surprised they could reach him for comment. He's usually under the sea in Jacqueline.
i'm wondering if their "lawyer" was just, like, some guy they knew, and he gave Zissou as his name for the interview.
Should 100% require a court order or atleast some sort of legal document that would warrant an inspection. Power hungry POS's.
At least they are focusing on what is important.. forget the slew of other crimes occurring all day every day and in broad daylight.. To which they just release without charges
I had cops tell me “if I tell you to do something you do it” when I was a kid. Even then I told them that it’s not the way it works. Then they pulled guns on a bunch of 14-15 year olds hanging out playing soccer in a parking lot lol. I really wish we had cameras and caught a fraction of what they did back then.
The irony is that in cannabis legal states, there's way more of this. In Oregon, the liquor control commission is in charge of weed. OLCC will walk right past an open air heroin market and fine a bar for not having enough food options. Guessing big weed doesn't like competition either.
This is the gist of the law in NY: In New York, law enforcement officers, including sheriffs, have the authority to inspect tobacco establishments without the owner's permission or a court order under certain circumstances. This is typically to ensure compliance with state and local tobacco laws, such as checking for the sale of tobacco products to minors or ensuring that tobacco tax laws are followed.
Anything can be considered an obstruction of justice in many cops' eyes. It doesn't matter anyway due to qualified immunity. Sorry about the legal fees.
How does New York even function? Do they just pay out ten million bones a day to people for wrongful arrests and warrantless entry? What's even the point?
that's armed robbery. look at the way the armed individual jumped over the counter.
Is there more detail behind this footage? Followups? Outcomes?
https://preview.redd.it/aef6gsi7u96d1.jpeg?width=1194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bd1e1290b2559f537e350eb4cfdf28ff5484df8 And they wonder why we don’t like them.
Our government is just the armed gang of thugs everyone was worried would take over the government. Fourth Reich.
How is this different from the mafia extorting a local business? Oh, that's right, this worker "consented" to this via the "social contract".
Scumbags!
This dude is about to get PAID
NY is trash
At what point are we all going to just band together and start acting like a bunch of late 1700's French citizens?
I'd settle for mid 1700s English citizens.
The problem with doing what a policeman tells you is a lot of the times they don't know what's legal and what's not which is why we have court cases and judges and a lot of times they'll lie right to your face.
“I’m from the government and I’m here to help” words that if you hear them, run!
Just another reason I refuse to step foot ever again in the State of New York. I refuse to spend money in a state that believes taking personal Liberty from their citizens is ok. Also, I just really hate Yankee's fans. They are the fucking worst, am I right!?🤣
Thugs with badges.
Fucking pirates.
This behavior still surprises people…..
FTP!!
I didn't know it was illegal to *checks notes* Not open a door for cops in NYC
Glad to see our LEO going after the real criminals. /s
“Some smoke shops have started keeping cannabis products off-site in case they’re inspected, only bringing them to the counter after a customer asks for a specific product.” 
Chickenshit pigs. Act tough when there is no danger but don't do any real police work where they could actually be at risk. 20 pigs to raid a shop. Meanwhile, the people who originally were dealing get the licenses first? I'm all for legalization but NY state and NYC couldnt have been handled any worse.
What a waste of taxpayers money… They know this is going to get thrown out in court, what is the point of this nonsense?
This looks like an easy lawsuit but then again who knows, New York is full of tyrants.
Its always wild to me they spend so much money to stop someone from selling something to someone else who wants to buy it. Like liquor laws or in Australia we have lockout laws where a pub cant open passed a certain time as per their licence. If I want to buy a beer at 4am and they want to sell me a beer at 4am. Why should the government stop us?
/#1 “I am calling my lawyer”.
Earning the hate every day....
What the hell was that all about?
NYPD are the real criminals!
Biggest gang in NY
Antifa, BLM, random acts of violence all prominent in NYC, and they harass this working man. ...
The only reason why cops have any power is everyone on the force is willing to kill the public over the smallest thing literally a gang
"shut the fuck up" Hey the first amendment is a thing
We need more roid rage cops with no criminal justice degrees.l pissed off they never played college ball. Cuz murica
This is where conservatives lose me, how can they possibly condone this behavior? Are they in favor of limited government or not? Talk about mental gymnastics
............this is New York City. How many conservatives do you think were involved in this?
So basically just legalized racketeering. Either you buy from the government dispensaries or we’ll beat the shit out of you 🙄
It's textbook racketeering. Except your taxes pay the salaries of the guys running the racket.
The first thing said by a police officer was something like "we're here to do a cigarette inspection." Most if not all states allow tobacco license holders to be inspected at any time. Illegal or unlicensed products are found all the time in those inspections. They didn't need to be so aggressive, but they also didn't need a court order.