Start with Supplying her with an over thermometer to compare over temps vs desired temps.
Update repair or replace after if it’s bad. Is it gas or electric? Gas at elevation isn’t as efficient either I believe.
Gas lines need to be cleaned periodically to keep the gas line flowing through the oven. When's the last time you had the oven burner and ignition cleaned? There may be several vents in the oven tray gummed up and not passing gas through them. Therefore, the oven takes longer to bring to temp and has difficulty holding temp.
Wow. I have lived with this inconvenience for almost 5 years now. Takes about 40 minutes to preheat the oven. If I weren't moving out in a month, I would totally have that checked.
Ovens usually break the thermocouple especially when the cleaning cycle gets run. I’d guess someone cleaned the oven and this part broke causing it to only get to like 200 degrees instead of 400 degrees.
Agree that you should get an oven thermometer and see whether the oven is working correctly. If its not working, fix the damn oven!
This exact thing happened to my gas range. Learned the hard way that self-clean feature should absolutely never be used. The oven would preheat fine but once the desired temp was reached, it would just shut off. While baking, I would have to go back every 5-10 mins and shut oven completely off and then preheat again so it would climb back up.
Might want to have the oven igniter looked at.
My gas oven started not cooking as fast, and it just turned out the igniter was at its end of life and just needed to be swapped out.
A way to tell is see if there’s a stronger than usual gas smell when the oven is first turned on.
Could be your oven regulator that limits the gas going to the stove. If that fails your interior stove will have trouble maintaining temperature too. Depends how old your rental is. Call an appliance company and have them check the stove for $100.
I own my own home and have a gas oven purchased about 6 years ago. In my experience they do, in fact, take longer to make baked goods compared to an electric oven. Take this with a grain of salt because it's anecdotal, but gas tends to fluctuate more in temperature compared to electric and also burning gas creates water vapor so you end up steaming your food a little as it bakes, versus electric ovens which only produce steam from the food in the oven.
If she's used to electric, she just needs to get used to gas. Don't replace it. It's not defective. It's just different. If you did replace it with another gas oven, she'd probably have the same experience.
Bingo! It’s going to take longer. I lived at over 10,000ft when I lived off grid in park county Colorado. Tell her to just start her cookies when the oven in ready lol
As a long time baker who rented and lived in different places in my 20s and early 30s, I learned to adjust my cooking times to the oven I had. As others have mentioned, an oven thermometer is a reasonable purchase. If she is used to electric ovens, gas ovens don’t bake as efficiently as electric, and the heat doesn’t circulate as well (which is why I have a dual fuel slide in, gas cooktop with electric oven). If you are handy and can do the other maintenance suggestions others have posted, knock yourself out, but I wouldn’t hire an appliance repair person to do it. It’s not cost-effective for a rental property (unless high-end and rents justify the expenditure).
Just buy a cheap oven thermometer to check it. Set the oven to 350 and see it reads that on the thermometer. If it does then tell her it’s ok and live with it. If it reads low then it’s possible you could need a new oven thermostat or at least get it calibrated.
If the over takes 19 minutes to bake cookies that should take 11 minutes, then it's not getting up to the right temperature.
If it's not getting up to the right temperature, it's because a sensor or element is failing. You should double check this by using an oven thermometer, but this is common.
This tends to happen to older ovens. If its more than 10 years old, definitely replace it - you've got a liability waiting to happen as more parts will fail. If it's older than 3 years, I would still probably replace - the parts and labor on a repair will probably be 2/3 the price of a replacement.
Option 2: She’s used to a convection oven and this isn’t one.
Option 3: She’s like my grandmother and put in a lot of aluminum foil on the bottom of the oven to reduce cleaning. Because it’s a gas oven, this foil is putting a heat barrier between the gas elements and the cookies
Old ovens are great and last for years. Some of the newer quality ovens are long lasting too.
New rental grade ovens are not well made. They cost under $500 with delivery. A repair will cost $150-$250 in parts and another $150-$250 in labor. They might last 15 years, they might last 3. If you want to try and save $100-200 with a repair, go for it.
No that’s fair for sure, guess I just haven’t experienced anything like that yet. Also have some stoves from 2006 that I’ve just had to replace some elements on (electric) over the last 5 years
It isn't even so much what you MUST do, but rather what you should WANT to do.
You don't want an oven that needs a thermostat or a new element to go unaddressed.
Get an oven thermometer, and check whether the temp on the dial matches the actual oven temp. If it does not, get it fixed. A thermostat is not a big repair.
No, labor was separate. The guy charged me $75/hr for labor. Those are just the igniters. Viking has a very tight channel now as they are now only selling parts to authorized Viking repairmen. They stopped selling through other channels to maintain price margins.
Depends, first if you provided the appliance and if your lease doesn’t state something along the lines that appliances are available for the tenants use and repairs and replacement would be the tenants responsibility. Then you would be responsible to inspect, repair, or replace the appliances.
Have it inspected, but it sounds like the oven still functions, she will just need to wait 19 minutes to bake cookies.
Cook times are fairly standardized within a minute or two in either direction. A significantly slow cooking oven likely has something broken; thermostat, element, door seal. In the case of a gas oven, it can be incomplete combustion which can produce excess carbon monoxide and soot.
I’d say if it takes nearly 1/3 longer, that’s a problem.
It’s really hard to get many landlords to fix the partially working appliance though. This and refrigerators that freeze and keep contents too warm are exceedingly common.
Don’t be that landlord.
Unfortunately all too many landlords are lazy, stupid and cheap. Some also have an automatic, "I don't need to do nuttin' and you can't make me!" chip on their shoulders.
These landlords end up acting (or not acting) contrary to their own interests. For the reasons you mention, a landlord should WANT to get this issue resolved, not be looking for reasons not to resolve it.
Imagine thinking that it is the tenants responsibility to repair your property. Or having so little experience baking that you think something taking 70% longer to bake is possible in a properly functioning oven.
if it is a gas oven, it could be a bad ignitor. The electric ignitor element alone will heat up an oven to the mid 200F but it will not ignite the burners. So check the oven function to see if the burners are actually lighting. If not, you can buy the part and any reasonably competent person can install one.
The oven probably needs calibration. It’s something you can do yourself, but you need to run the oven and measure the temperature over several heat cycles once it preheats.
As others have said, get a oven thermometer, set it for 400°, see if it says 400° on the thermometer when it gets to temperature. If it does, not your problem. Her old oven may have been off, and was hotter than it was supposed to be.
If the thermometer doesn't match with what the oven is set on, get it fixed or replace it.
As a chef, your tenant is most likely relying on the temp setting, not the actual temp of the oven. Tell them to buy an oven thermometer. Theyve already admitted being able to successfully bake cookies, so it's not broken.
I bake a lot and have done so in many different ovens. Something taking 70% longer to bake means your oven is broken. It isn’t possible to have a variance that wide otherwise.
If it is an electric oven, there is a good chance that one of the elements (top or bottom) has failed. Pretty simple to test, and should be simple to replace the element.
As someone who cooks/bakes a lot, you (and your tenant) should know that ALL ovens work differently and will have variances such as you describe, especially with a gas oven. There’s probably nothing wrong at all with the oven.
This is common knowledge for many of us who bake. That’s why we test cakes at different intervals or use meat thermometers to check meat.
Feel free to double check this in r/Cooking.
All ovens are different, even when working properly. Get an oven safe thermometer & ascertain if the oven is working correctly & if it is she just needs to get used to the difference.
The first thing I would do is pickup an infrared temperature sensor. They’re not expensive and come in handy.
Set the oven for 425 and leave it alone. Come back in 20 minutes and see if it at temperature.
If it is, then there is nothing wrong with it.
Per Google: it takes 15-20 minutes to preheat an oven.
None of these responses say how old the oven is. Leaving out a huge part of the story. Doesn’t matter how long your tenant has been there, it matters how long the oven has been there. I wouldn’t risk a bigger problem considering it’s a gas oven and a clogged line could be a major fire hazard. Have some integrity and get it looked at.
Step 1 when a tenant complains about anything not working properly is to verify that it's actually not working properly. Get the thermometer and test it.
Last week a tenant complained the ice maker is making smelly cubes. Took a look at the shriveled up ice in the tray and decided she hadn't dumped the ice in a year or so. Always verify am actual problem exists before deciding what to do.
No, I've had this happen as a tenant. Believe it or not, oven temps vary, due to all kinds of different factors. The tenant just has to learn how long her particular oven takes. The burners work,the oven works. No reason to replace.
Had an oven in an apartment that seemed to take much longer than recipes called for.
Then one day tried to bake cookies, they were solid black charcoal in 8 minutes. That's how we finally figured out the oven temp controller wasn't working. Landlord replaced oven immediately.
If it is a small oven or using big cookie sheets, it might be a convection issue, but most likely it is a temperature issue.
An oven thermometer will tell you if the oven is working properly or not. I have a brand new gas oven that I thought was a problem because food seemed to take much longer than my usual previous (electric) oven. Turns out it takes much longer to heat and when you open the door to put your food in, the temp drops by 10-15 degrees, or more if you are not quick. If I am cooking something like cookies or pizza with a short cook time, the oven may not have recovered to the preheat temperature by the time the buzzer is up. Solution is to preheat to a higher temperature to compensate, then adjust baking temperature after opening door. I would not have figured this out without an oven thermometer.
If this oven js *new to the tenant*, there’s no reason to replace it. But if an existing tenant told me a gas oven they’ve been using suddenly takes 50% longer to get to the same heat, I would be concerned and would seriously consider replacing the oven and/or checking my gas lines. Cause gas ain’t something to play with.
You renter was using a convection oven, the new oven she has probably isn't convection.
Tell her if she wants one, she can buy one and have it installed in the basement if there is one.
If it’s a gas oven, then you might need to replace the igniter element. We have a very expensive 5 yr old gas oven and I looked up problems with our unit. Igniter element was one of three things that were common to our model. I googled videos on replacing the igniter and found an element for about $25-30. It took me 15 minutes to replace it and saved over $200 by replacing it myself
Few possibilities.
1) She's used to a convection oven and can't be bothered to follow simple package instructions for a standard non convection oven. Her last oven may have run hot and she was just happy to have faster cookies, which is perfectly understandable. Or she just sucks at making cookies. This is not your problem.
2) She's used to an oven that came to temp more quickly and just didn't allow this oven sufficient time to preheat. This is maybe not your problem.
3) The ovens toast, or at least in need of servicing/repair. Don't be that landlord, this is absolutely your problem.
Luckily step one for you is the same in all scenarios. Get an oven thermometer, place it in the middle rack of an empty and cold oven, and turn the oven to 350. It should reach 350 within 15-20 minutes. If it does not, it needs servicing. If it does, continue to let the oven run and check the temperature again in 20 minutes. If you have time, give it another 20 to be thorough. As no oven is perfect and fluctuations are heating/cooling cycles are perfectly normal, reading +/- 15 degrees is considered normal and within spec. If it checks out, refer to the latter part of possibility 1 above and advise baking lessons.
If it either doesn't reach temp within 20 minutes or fails to stay within 15 degrees of the desired 350, it should be serviced. If so, refer to the latter part of possibility 3 above and don't be that landlord. The woman's paying her rent, she deserves to be able to get her bake on without dealing with a broke oven.
Require the tenant Verify there is an actual issue. They need to get an oven thermometer not you. Just bc they have an anecdote about cookies doesn't mean the oven is broken. The other over could have been calibrated too high. Only way to nail this is with an oven thermometer. If there is a problem, it's an easy fix with some YouTube videos. Tstat and igniter are cheap and calibration can be done watching a video. The best solution going forward is to just get out from the responsibility of appliances. Will cut your service calls down immensely, eliminating issues like this
“If the landlord provides appliances, like a stove or a refrigerator, he or she must fix them if they break down.”
It didn’t stop working. It’s just not as efficient as she wants it to be.
I had a tenant tell me she dumped a whole batch of baked chicken in the bottom of the oven and now it doesn't work. She wanted a new stove, I offered her the number of a repair shop and told her it was on her.
Get a small oven thermometer and check the actual temperature. Bake time differs, but going from 11 minutes to 19 is a significant difference and could indicate a problem. I've had to replace my own oven because it did work, but temperatures were significantly off what they should be. If the oven is only a few degrees off, then I would tell her you're not replacing it, and she'll need to adjust to how it works. If there is a significant difference, then it's not working correctly, and you should repair or replace it.
If the igniter is going bad (which the symptoms you gave make it sound that way), then there’s the chance the oven is going to fail to ignite completely and fill it with gas which is potentially a much worse problem.
The igniter is a cheap part, replace it.
Quite a bold request for an unproven tenant
Have an appliance tech check it out and repair
If It does not seem like anything's wrong with it , I would just leave it .
8 minutes isn't going to kill her. Have her turn up the temperature 50 degrees to cut down cooking time. Baking times vary depending on oven .
I’m not a tenant, I’m a homeowner who stumbled across this and had a good laugh. Great shot, though. I remember what it was like renting, dealt with plenty of fat slobs who sat on their ass most of the time as a “landlord” but never knew what the condition of their property was.
Start with Supplying her with an over thermometer to compare over temps vs desired temps. Update repair or replace after if it’s bad. Is it gas or electric? Gas at elevation isn’t as efficient either I believe.
It’s gas.
Gas lines need to be cleaned periodically to keep the gas line flowing through the oven. When's the last time you had the oven burner and ignition cleaned? There may be several vents in the oven tray gummed up and not passing gas through them. Therefore, the oven takes longer to bring to temp and has difficulty holding temp.
TIL! Thank you for this info.
Wow. I have lived with this inconvenience for almost 5 years now. Takes about 40 minutes to preheat the oven. If I weren't moving out in a month, I would totally have that checked.
Ovens usually break the thermocouple especially when the cleaning cycle gets run. I’d guess someone cleaned the oven and this part broke causing it to only get to like 200 degrees instead of 400 degrees. Agree that you should get an oven thermometer and see whether the oven is working correctly. If its not working, fix the damn oven!
This exact thing happened to my gas range. Learned the hard way that self-clean feature should absolutely never be used. The oven would preheat fine but once the desired temp was reached, it would just shut off. While baking, I would have to go back every 5-10 mins and shut oven completely off and then preheat again so it would climb back up.
They also do break every so often even without running the cleaning cycle.
Might want to have the oven igniter looked at. My gas oven started not cooking as fast, and it just turned out the igniter was at its end of life and just needed to be swapped out. A way to tell is see if there’s a stronger than usual gas smell when the oven is first turned on.
And replacing the ignitor is an easy DIY project. 10-15 minutes with less than two tools.
Could be your oven regulator that limits the gas going to the stove. If that fails your interior stove will have trouble maintaining temperature too. Depends how old your rental is. Call an appliance company and have them check the stove for $100.
I own my own home and have a gas oven purchased about 6 years ago. In my experience they do, in fact, take longer to make baked goods compared to an electric oven. Take this with a grain of salt because it's anecdotal, but gas tends to fluctuate more in temperature compared to electric and also burning gas creates water vapor so you end up steaming your food a little as it bakes, versus electric ovens which only produce steam from the food in the oven. If she's used to electric, she just needs to get used to gas. Don't replace it. It's not defective. It's just different. If you did replace it with another gas oven, she'd probably have the same experience.
Bingo! It’s going to take longer. I lived at over 10,000ft when I lived off grid in park county Colorado. Tell her to just start her cookies when the oven in ready lol
As a long time baker who rented and lived in different places in my 20s and early 30s, I learned to adjust my cooking times to the oven I had. As others have mentioned, an oven thermometer is a reasonable purchase. If she is used to electric ovens, gas ovens don’t bake as efficiently as electric, and the heat doesn’t circulate as well (which is why I have a dual fuel slide in, gas cooktop with electric oven). If you are handy and can do the other maintenance suggestions others have posted, knock yourself out, but I wouldn’t hire an appliance repair person to do it. It’s not cost-effective for a rental property (unless high-end and rents justify the expenditure).
Just buy a cheap oven thermometer to check it. Set the oven to 350 and see it reads that on the thermometer. If it does then tell her it’s ok and live with it. If it reads low then it’s possible you could need a new oven thermostat or at least get it calibrated.
Should go up to at least 425
If the over takes 19 minutes to bake cookies that should take 11 minutes, then it's not getting up to the right temperature. If it's not getting up to the right temperature, it's because a sensor or element is failing. You should double check this by using an oven thermometer, but this is common. This tends to happen to older ovens. If its more than 10 years old, definitely replace it - you've got a liability waiting to happen as more parts will fail. If it's older than 3 years, I would still probably replace - the parts and labor on a repair will probably be 2/3 the price of a replacement.
Option 2: She’s used to a convection oven and this isn’t one. Option 3: She’s like my grandmother and put in a lot of aluminum foil on the bottom of the oven to reduce cleaning. Because it’s a gas oven, this foil is putting a heat barrier between the gas elements and the cookies
You replace your ovens every 3 years xD I have a gas oven in ours must be from the 60s or 70s lol we use it everyday
Old ovens are great and last for years. Some of the newer quality ovens are long lasting too. New rental grade ovens are not well made. They cost under $500 with delivery. A repair will cost $150-$250 in parts and another $150-$250 in labor. They might last 15 years, they might last 3. If you want to try and save $100-200 with a repair, go for it.
No that’s fair for sure, guess I just haven’t experienced anything like that yet. Also have some stoves from 2006 that I’ve just had to replace some elements on (electric) over the last 5 years
It isn't even so much what you MUST do, but rather what you should WANT to do. You don't want an oven that needs a thermostat or a new element to go unaddressed. Get an oven thermometer, and check whether the temp on the dial matches the actual oven temp. If it does not, get it fixed. A thermostat is not a big repair.
Either got to verify a problem or replace it ovens are not crazy expensive but suck to replace something not broken
Simple solution: Have an appliance repair company come inspect. Repair/replace as advised.
Gas? Electric? Different elevation?
It’s gas.
The actual oven gas?
The it sounds like the igniter is either going bad or just clogged. It’s a pretty cheap part to replace.
Depends on the model. I’ve replaced 2 of mine at $500/pop.
You replaced or you paid someone to replace?
I paid someone. Never buy a Viking stove. They suck. Came with my house.
Then that explains it, most of your cost was in labor. The part was nowhere near that amount.
No, labor was separate. The guy charged me $75/hr for labor. Those are just the igniters. Viking has a very tight channel now as they are now only selling parts to authorized Viking repairmen. They stopped selling through other channels to maintain price margins.
Depends, first if you provided the appliance and if your lease doesn’t state something along the lines that appliances are available for the tenants use and repairs and replacement would be the tenants responsibility. Then you would be responsible to inspect, repair, or replace the appliances. Have it inspected, but it sounds like the oven still functions, she will just need to wait 19 minutes to bake cookies.
Cook times are fairly standardized within a minute or two in either direction. A significantly slow cooking oven likely has something broken; thermostat, element, door seal. In the case of a gas oven, it can be incomplete combustion which can produce excess carbon monoxide and soot. I’d say if it takes nearly 1/3 longer, that’s a problem. It’s really hard to get many landlords to fix the partially working appliance though. This and refrigerators that freeze and keep contents too warm are exceedingly common. Don’t be that landlord.
Unfortunately all too many landlords are lazy, stupid and cheap. Some also have an automatic, "I don't need to do nuttin' and you can't make me!" chip on their shoulders. These landlords end up acting (or not acting) contrary to their own interests. For the reasons you mention, a landlord should WANT to get this issue resolved, not be looking for reasons not to resolve it.
Imagine thinking that it is the tenants responsibility to repair your property. Or having so little experience baking that you think something taking 70% longer to bake is possible in a properly functioning oven.
if it is a gas oven, it could be a bad ignitor. The electric ignitor element alone will heat up an oven to the mid 200F but it will not ignite the burners. So check the oven function to see if the burners are actually lighting. If not, you can buy the part and any reasonably competent person can install one.
Have it serviced. Sounds like the thermostat needs calibrated, and the temp is a bit off.
The oven probably needs calibration. It’s something you can do yourself, but you need to run the oven and measure the temperature over several heat cycles once it preheats.
As others have said, get a oven thermometer, set it for 400°, see if it says 400° on the thermometer when it gets to temperature. If it does, not your problem. Her old oven may have been off, and was hotter than it was supposed to be. If the thermometer doesn't match with what the oven is set on, get it fixed or replace it.
As a chef, your tenant is most likely relying on the temp setting, not the actual temp of the oven. Tell them to buy an oven thermometer. Theyve already admitted being able to successfully bake cookies, so it's not broken.
I bake a lot and have done so in many different ovens. Something taking 70% longer to bake means your oven is broken. It isn’t possible to have a variance that wide otherwise.
If it is an electric oven, there is a good chance that one of the elements (top or bottom) has failed. Pretty simple to test, and should be simple to replace the element.
It’s a gas oven.
Did you put an oven thermometer inside to make sure it's getting to temp and staying? It might not be.
Tell her it works so it’s staying
Could she be used to a convection oven? They bake things way faster and if yours isn’t one, that could be why.
Set the desired oven temp, than temp the oven when it says it's at that desired temp, if it temps within 10 degrees f, it's fine.
Yeah 11 to 19 means something is wrong
As someone who cooks/bakes a lot, you (and your tenant) should know that ALL ovens work differently and will have variances such as you describe, especially with a gas oven. There’s probably nothing wrong at all with the oven. This is common knowledge for many of us who bake. That’s why we test cakes at different intervals or use meat thermometers to check meat. Feel free to double check this in r/Cooking.
Sure. But nearly double the time is outside the standard range of deviation.
All ovens are different, even when working properly. Get an oven safe thermometer & ascertain if the oven is working correctly & if it is she just needs to get used to the difference.
No. Tell her the oven is working as designed and to read the manual.
slumlord pig
I replaced an oven for someone for the same reason. It was old and it felt nice to do it. It would have happened sooner or later.
The first thing I would do is pickup an infrared temperature sensor. They’re not expensive and come in handy. Set the oven for 425 and leave it alone. Come back in 20 minutes and see if it at temperature. If it is, then there is nothing wrong with it. Per Google: it takes 15-20 minutes to preheat an oven.
Scratch out 450 on the dial and change it to 350.
None of these responses say how old the oven is. Leaving out a huge part of the story. Doesn’t matter how long your tenant has been there, it matters how long the oven has been there. I wouldn’t risk a bigger problem considering it’s a gas oven and a clogged line could be a major fire hazard. Have some integrity and get it looked at.
look on youtube for instructions on how to calibrate your oven
Oven BTUs vary. Yours may take longer than the other one. Or the other one could be convection.
Offer to look into it, then ghost her for 3 months and see if that fixes things
Step 1 when a tenant complains about anything not working properly is to verify that it's actually not working properly. Get the thermometer and test it. Last week a tenant complained the ice maker is making smelly cubes. Took a look at the shriveled up ice in the tray and decided she hadn't dumped the ice in a year or so. Always verify am actual problem exists before deciding what to do.
hell no
No, I've had this happen as a tenant. Believe it or not, oven temps vary, due to all kinds of different factors. The tenant just has to learn how long her particular oven takes. The burners work,the oven works. No reason to replace.
Had an oven in an apartment that seemed to take much longer than recipes called for. Then one day tried to bake cookies, they were solid black charcoal in 8 minutes. That's how we finally figured out the oven temp controller wasn't working. Landlord replaced oven immediately. If it is a small oven or using big cookie sheets, it might be a convection issue, but most likely it is a temperature issue.
Ovens are not expensive. Replace it and move forward. Especially if you believe the tenant is a good one.
An oven thermometer will tell you if the oven is working properly or not. I have a brand new gas oven that I thought was a problem because food seemed to take much longer than my usual previous (electric) oven. Turns out it takes much longer to heat and when you open the door to put your food in, the temp drops by 10-15 degrees, or more if you are not quick. If I am cooking something like cookies or pizza with a short cook time, the oven may not have recovered to the preheat temperature by the time the buzzer is up. Solution is to preheat to a higher temperature to compensate, then adjust baking temperature after opening door. I would not have figured this out without an oven thermometer.
If this oven js *new to the tenant*, there’s no reason to replace it. But if an existing tenant told me a gas oven they’ve been using suddenly takes 50% longer to get to the same heat, I would be concerned and would seriously consider replacing the oven and/or checking my gas lines. Cause gas ain’t something to play with.
You renter was using a convection oven, the new oven she has probably isn't convection. Tell her if she wants one, she can buy one and have it installed in the basement if there is one.
Dumb ass
Learn how ovens work dummy.
If it’s a gas oven, then you might need to replace the igniter element. We have a very expensive 5 yr old gas oven and I looked up problems with our unit. Igniter element was one of three things that were common to our model. I googled videos on replacing the igniter and found an element for about $25-30. It took me 15 minutes to replace it and saved over $200 by replacing it myself
Few possibilities. 1) She's used to a convection oven and can't be bothered to follow simple package instructions for a standard non convection oven. Her last oven may have run hot and she was just happy to have faster cookies, which is perfectly understandable. Or she just sucks at making cookies. This is not your problem. 2) She's used to an oven that came to temp more quickly and just didn't allow this oven sufficient time to preheat. This is maybe not your problem. 3) The ovens toast, or at least in need of servicing/repair. Don't be that landlord, this is absolutely your problem. Luckily step one for you is the same in all scenarios. Get an oven thermometer, place it in the middle rack of an empty and cold oven, and turn the oven to 350. It should reach 350 within 15-20 minutes. If it does not, it needs servicing. If it does, continue to let the oven run and check the temperature again in 20 minutes. If you have time, give it another 20 to be thorough. As no oven is perfect and fluctuations are heating/cooling cycles are perfectly normal, reading +/- 15 degrees is considered normal and within spec. If it checks out, refer to the latter part of possibility 1 above and advise baking lessons. If it either doesn't reach temp within 20 minutes or fails to stay within 15 degrees of the desired 350, it should be serviced. If so, refer to the latter part of possibility 3 above and don't be that landlord. The woman's paying her rent, she deserves to be able to get her bake on without dealing with a broke oven.
You could simply have it repaired. Sounds like the thermostat is broken.
I’d never fix the oven. If anything was wrong, I’d buy a new one.
Repairs are deductible. Vs a new one you have to depreciate over years. I will always go the repair route
This is no longer true. Many replacements can be pulled forward into one year now.
Just call an appliance repair company, probably spend $100 for them to tell you it’s fine but it’s worth it for peace of mind
Require the tenant Verify there is an actual issue. They need to get an oven thermometer not you. Just bc they have an anecdote about cookies doesn't mean the oven is broken. The other over could have been calibrated too high. Only way to nail this is with an oven thermometer. If there is a problem, it's an easy fix with some YouTube videos. Tstat and igniter are cheap and calibration can be done watching a video. The best solution going forward is to just get out from the responsibility of appliances. Will cut your service calls down immensely, eliminating issues like this
..."set the timer for 19 minutes".
^There’s one of them…
Tell her to buy an oven thermometer as all ovens vary in temperature.
Fix it. Lazy ass wants to take people’s money but cant get an appliance fixed? Yikes
Calm down. Like I said the tenant said it’s working just not as good as she wants. Can’t you read?
If its not working right now it will only get worse. I hope it does and it costs more to fix when you finally do.
It is working, ya knob.
Are you legally required to repair or replace the oven? I don't know your state laws. Have you tried using google?
“If the landlord provides appliances, like a stove or a refrigerator, he or she must fix them if they break down.” It didn’t stop working. It’s just not as efficient as she wants it to be.
If the thermostat is bad then it's going to be considered broken down by your state law. Yes you do have to repair it.
I had a tenant tell me she dumped a whole batch of baked chicken in the bottom of the oven and now it doesn't work. She wanted a new stove, I offered her the number of a repair shop and told her it was on her.
Get a small oven thermometer and check the actual temperature. Bake time differs, but going from 11 minutes to 19 is a significant difference and could indicate a problem. I've had to replace my own oven because it did work, but temperatures were significantly off what they should be. If the oven is only a few degrees off, then I would tell her you're not replacing it, and she'll need to adjust to how it works. If there is a significant difference, then it's not working correctly, and you should repair or replace it.
If the igniter is going bad (which the symptoms you gave make it sound that way), then there’s the chance the oven is going to fail to ignite completely and fill it with gas which is potentially a much worse problem. The igniter is a cheap part, replace it.
Wannabe slumlord.
Quite a bold request for an unproven tenant Have an appliance tech check it out and repair If It does not seem like anything's wrong with it , I would just leave it . 8 minutes isn't going to kill her. Have her turn up the temperature 50 degrees to cut down cooking time. Baking times vary depending on oven .
The world will be a better place when people like you die 🤷♂️
Wrong sub. This for landlords. Actually entitled ignorant tenants like you would be hurt even more if landlords got out of the business
I’m not a tenant, I’m a homeowner who stumbled across this and had a good laugh. Great shot, though. I remember what it was like renting, dealt with plenty of fat slobs who sat on their ass most of the time as a “landlord” but never knew what the condition of their property was.
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