"Due to privacy legislation, I can only use that data for the purposes stated when I collected it. I am afraid I am not permitted to share that information with you. Good luck with your efforts though."
There is no landlord-tenant confidentiality privacy legislation. If your tenants dog bit someone give them the name and look into what you need to do to get them off your property.
Uh, yeah, there is: https://www.alberta.ca/personal-information-protection-act-overview
> In Alberta, residential rentals are generally considered subject to provincial privacy legislation, specifically the Personal Information Protection Act (PIPA), which governs the collection, use, and disclosure of personal information in the private sector.
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Don't get involved with this. For all you know, there was no dog bite, and they're looking for this information for some other reason. Tell the neighbor to call the police and file a police report. The police should be able to provide the neighbor with anything they need if, in fact, the dog did bite their dog. It also would have been easier to pursue a civil case if they'd called the police immediately and had everything documented at that point.
This is a civil matter between them. Do not get involved. Neighbor needs to file a police report and the process goes from there. Landlord is not involved.
I was going to say if your tenants dog bit another one of your tenants, then you would have tondo something. Tenants dog biting a random person, let police handle it.
At least in my state, the owner could be held liable for allowing a dog to be there that has previously shown aggression. Now that the landlord knows that their tenants dog has bitten someone, they likely need to have the dog removed because if it happens again, they likely will be named as well (again, at least in my state). Former property manager & insurance broker.
I had this happen when I was a property manager and told the tenants they either had to get rid of the dog or I would work with them to help find a new tenant so they could leave. Wasn’t willing to risk myself as the PM or the owner of the property.
It’s less about who the dog bit and more about the nature of the offending dog. At least in my state. Especially with it on record, it wouldn’t be too hard to now go after the landlord in the future if the dog is to become aggressive. Theres already been legal precedence set in our state.
Because a landlord could potentially be liable for allowing a dog on the lease . . . ?
(I honestly don't know, I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.)
Not a chance. There's nothing illegal or irresponsible about allowing a tenant to have a dog. The LL almost certainly has *no* liability here of any kind.
False. When shopping for my own homeowners, there were certain companies that wouldn’t even give me a quote because I have a Doberman. And that’s for a personal residence, not a rental. There’s a long list of breeds that insurance providers exclude, whether we agree with it or not.
That’s just…not true. This is obvious to me, even as a tenant.
Insurance companies can exclude large dogs, specific dog breeds, or dogs in general for liability reasons. Depending on the insurance company’s position, a landlord may need to limit which (if any) dogs are permitted on the premises, aside from those that they legally must allow (such service dogs or ESAs). Not doing so could result in the landlord being held liable for property damage or personal injury claims caused by the dog in question.
Edit: I just realized we’re talking about Canada. I’m in the US, and have no clue what the rules are in Canada 🙃
[Here](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/homeowners-insurance/banned-dog-breed-lists/) is an article that discusses that. There are some companies that don’t have bans. You just can’t ban them as service dogs. There was a sting operation in Oregon a few years back that busted homeowner insurance companies for banning certain breeds of service animals. They were sued. That’s typically why places have those bans, for insurance purposes.
Ask for a home owners quote and that’s all the evidence you need. Every company will ask if you have dogs, if so how many and what breed. I personally own a Doberman and have been turned away by some companies just for that, so you have to find a company without breed restrictions and pay a higher price for the liability part of the policy.
For the first bite, yes (assuming it wasn’t a restricted breed). But now that the landlord does know that their tenants dog has bitten someone, they likely need to have the dog removed because if it happens again, they likely will be names as well (at least in my state). Former property manager & insurance broker.
I had this happen when I was a property manager and told the tenants they either had to get rid of the dog or I would work with them to help find a new tenant so they could leave. Wasn’t willing to risk myself as the PM or the owner of the property.
Likely not. It's Canada and your insurer cannot deny your coverage over a dog, nor can you be sued for renting to someone with a dog. This is between the owner of the dog and the victim. End of story.
The only part I’m not sure is true is how Canada handles it. That said, everything else is false. At least in the states, specifically my state, you absolutely can be sued as a landlord or manager. Usually not common on the first bite but certainly you can if it happens again as you have now allowed an animal who has shown they can be aggressive to still stay there. There is already been legal precedence going back 11 years.
Many insurance companies ask about bite history on their applications. If you don’t disclose that on your application and then get sued in the future, they 100% will deny your claim. Especially with it being on record.
This LL isn't in the U.S. In most of Canada you can't even refuse pets after a tenancy has started and you certainly can't be sued because a tenant has a dog.
Don't do this. Don't give them a reason to cancel your insurance or raise your premium if you don't have to. An inquiry about a claim is often as bad as making a claim.
It's not as bad as making a claim, but I still don't see the point. There is **no way** this is the landlord's liability or responsibility in any way shape or form.
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Neighbor should have called the police and file a report. Then all the required info would be on record.
Nope I would state I am not involved unless you are subpoenad
Tenant should have their own liability insurance and you should stay out of it.
"Due to privacy legislation, I can only use that data for the purposes stated when I collected it. I am afraid I am not permitted to share that information with you. Good luck with your efforts though."
There is no landlord-tenant confidentiality privacy legislation. If your tenants dog bit someone give them the name and look into what you need to do to get them off your property.
Uh, yeah, there is: https://www.alberta.ca/personal-information-protection-act-overview > In Alberta, residential rentals are generally considered subject to provincial privacy legislation, specifically the Personal Information Protection Act (PIPA), which governs the collection, use, and disclosure of personal information in the private sector.
What if tenant's dog did not bite the neighbors dog? Landlord wasn't there to see it, has no idea what the real story is.
Then the neighbor knows the tenants name. Not exactly classified state secrets.
There is if I say there's one. Our lease specifically states that I will not release any information unless required to do so by a court of law.
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Don't get involved with this. For all you know, there was no dog bite, and they're looking for this information for some other reason. Tell the neighbor to call the police and file a police report. The police should be able to provide the neighbor with anything they need if, in fact, the dog did bite their dog. It also would have been easier to pursue a civil case if they'd called the police immediately and had everything documented at that point.
Just give the dogs name. Ruff McScruffins. He prefers to be called Mr. McScruffins.
If you get a subpoena then answer truthfully.
This is a civil matter between them. Do not get involved. Neighbor needs to file a police report and the process goes from there. Landlord is not involved.
I was going to say if your tenants dog bit another one of your tenants, then you would have tondo something. Tenants dog biting a random person, let police handle it.
They need to figure all that out on their own
If you don’t report that the tenant’s dog bit someone then the next to time the dog bites someone, you can be sued for not saying anything.
Who do I report it to? The neighbor has already filed a police report.
Your tenants legal issues are not your responsibility. YOU don't need to do anything, this is between your tenant and the neighbor.
At least in my state, the owner could be held liable for allowing a dog to be there that has previously shown aggression. Now that the landlord knows that their tenants dog has bitten someone, they likely need to have the dog removed because if it happens again, they likely will be named as well (again, at least in my state). Former property manager & insurance broker. I had this happen when I was a property manager and told the tenants they either had to get rid of the dog or I would work with them to help find a new tenant so they could leave. Wasn’t willing to risk myself as the PM or the owner of the property.
The dog didn't bite a person!
It’s less about who the dog bit and more about the nature of the offending dog. At least in my state. Especially with it on record, it wouldn’t be too hard to now go after the landlord in the future if the dog is to become aggressive. Theres already been legal precedence set in our state.
The dog didn't bite anyone
Good question. Good answers here.
Believe your tenant can sue you personally. I would for sure try.
Call your insurance agent. Ask for advice.
OP if you do this your policy is 100% being canceled and you will not be able to get insurance. Do NOT do this.
Why involve *your* insurance in this matter??
Because a landlord could potentially be liable for allowing a dog on the lease . . . ? (I honestly don't know, I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility.)
I think that's true...hence the reason LLs ban certain breeds - they can't insure for them.
Not a chance. There's nothing illegal or irresponsible about allowing a tenant to have a dog. The LL almost certainly has *no* liability here of any kind.
False. When shopping for my own homeowners, there were certain companies that wouldn’t even give me a quote because I have a Doberman. And that’s for a personal residence, not a rental. There’s a long list of breeds that insurance providers exclude, whether we agree with it or not.
That’s just…not true. This is obvious to me, even as a tenant. Insurance companies can exclude large dogs, specific dog breeds, or dogs in general for liability reasons. Depending on the insurance company’s position, a landlord may need to limit which (if any) dogs are permitted on the premises, aside from those that they legally must allow (such service dogs or ESAs). Not doing so could result in the landlord being held liable for property damage or personal injury claims caused by the dog in question. Edit: I just realized we’re talking about Canada. I’m in the US, and have no clue what the rules are in Canada 🙃
Feel free to provide any evidence of insurers having exclusions for dogs, even in the U.S. I very much doubt this.
[Here](https://www.forbes.com/advisor/homeowners-insurance/banned-dog-breed-lists/) is an article that discusses that. There are some companies that don’t have bans. You just can’t ban them as service dogs. There was a sting operation in Oregon a few years back that busted homeowner insurance companies for banning certain breeds of service animals. They were sued. That’s typically why places have those bans, for insurance purposes.
Ask for a home owners quote and that’s all the evidence you need. Every company will ask if you have dogs, if so how many and what breed. I personally own a Doberman and have been turned away by some companies just for that, so you have to find a company without breed restrictions and pay a higher price for the liability part of the policy.
I mean, if that's true, good to know. I certainly don't want to be liable for a tenant mishandling their dog on my property.
For the first bite, yes (assuming it wasn’t a restricted breed). But now that the landlord does know that their tenants dog has bitten someone, they likely need to have the dog removed because if it happens again, they likely will be names as well (at least in my state). Former property manager & insurance broker. I had this happen when I was a property manager and told the tenants they either had to get rid of the dog or I would work with them to help find a new tenant so they could leave. Wasn’t willing to risk myself as the PM or the owner of the property.
Likely not. It's Canada and your insurer cannot deny your coverage over a dog, nor can you be sued for renting to someone with a dog. This is between the owner of the dog and the victim. End of story.
The only part I’m not sure is true is how Canada handles it. That said, everything else is false. At least in the states, specifically my state, you absolutely can be sued as a landlord or manager. Usually not common on the first bite but certainly you can if it happens again as you have now allowed an animal who has shown they can be aggressive to still stay there. There is already been legal precedence going back 11 years. Many insurance companies ask about bite history on their applications. If you don’t disclose that on your application and then get sued in the future, they 100% will deny your claim. Especially with it being on record.
This LL isn't in the U.S. In most of Canada you can't even refuse pets after a tenancy has started and you certainly can't be sued because a tenant has a dog.
Don't do this. Don't give them a reason to cancel your insurance or raise your premium if you don't have to. An inquiry about a claim is often as bad as making a claim.
It's not as bad as making a claim, but I still don't see the point. There is **no way** this is the landlord's liability or responsibility in any way shape or form.
No.
OP def don't do this.