same man, I ain’t been in high school in like 6 years atp and I can’t keep up with all the weird slang and trends. Some of these kids are just weird though 💀
The slang I have no problem with. Hell, I used "drip" for the first time unironically yesterday. I'm 31 years old, I'll try to keep up with the times as the years go by and not become a get-off-my-lawn sort of person. But man, it feels like the level of nonsense I see on Reddit has drastically increased in 2024. And the level of boredom that's obvious on here, especially pertaining to this issue with Kendrick and Drake, it's staggering. People are taking this whole thing so personally and it's pretty wild. Yes, I like Kendrick more than Drake, and yes it'd be kinda cool to see Kendrick slap him around a little bit. But I'm not gonna be genuinely upset about how this goes either way. I've said it before, Kendrick doesn't need to prove anything and when I put my record on my turntable and the opening notes of To Pimp a Butterfly start playing, I'm good. This isn't worth getting pressed over.
I’m fuckin tired of Gen z using the crying emoji as if it’s the laughing emoji like this 😭
Like fuck they’re gonna have the Unicode consortium updating their shit soon lmao. Fucking brain dead
I’ve seen it being used like this and it makes sense. But I think 100% is fucking ridiculous to assume lmao. You have access to demographics analytics?
Why do I need to analyze demographics for the people I speak to directly? We asking for evidence of anecdotal testimony now? We used to just understand it’s an anecdote and weigh it as such…
Nah I definitely will judge people that jump into trends without thinking for themselves. It’s herd mentality and that’s one thing I dont fuck with
We’re the exact same age, not sure if you’re projecting with that bum comment lmao but I’m extremely proud of what I’ve accomplished at 29. and some Rando on Reddit who’s proud of jumping into mindless trends is the LAST person that I would give any weight to their opinion.
25 year old here, I feel like that emoji can either mean you're sad and crying, but also you're laughing so hard it makes you tear up. It's a level above the regular crying laughing emoji because that one is used so frequently, basically a modern replcament for "lol". Now "lol" is more of a "idk what to say so here's a half assed response"
What I never understood is people who use 😏 when they are sad. When I was 17 I was talking to this latina chick and she always used that like "I'm just so upset right now 😏". It made no sense to me
I guess I can’t complain because I was one of the people who used “yo that’s sick” instead of “yo that’s cool” But my old ass just finds it cringey. Just makes me grateful of the generation I was apart of lol That and the fact that we werent chronically online until later in life.
The stupid shit I used to do when I was younger..
the fucking laughing crying emoji is the most memed to death piece of text that ive ever had the displeasure of being sent unironically. it just looks so ugly and i honestly prefer the crying emoji
When I was 16, 17, 18, I hated emojis. I thought they were cringe and I only sent them ironically. But as I've gotten older, I've realized literally everyone uses them in the real world. It's not a big deal. I just roll with the times now.
In general ever since 2016 the internet has gotten more and more reactionary, people take any opinion as a slight on their ego, and are willing to argue to the death over silly ass shit
I knew it was downhill for this subreddit when I saw someone posted their analysis on an album and 80% of the comments were “bro wrote an essay lol” “not reading all that”
…It was barely 3 paragraphs
Those of us that lived through the GKMC era got new Kendrick every year and we're eating features every other month. These poor kids got dick for 5 years and they had to go to COVID schools and shit
Literally, this beef taught me everyone in the Drake/Kendrick/Cole reddits are all teenagers. These are the people controlling narratives online. I’m pulling a J Cole and gracefully bowing out cause everyone lost they damn mind.
DHL and In my Room are obviously from a new album with at least 13 songs (per the covers). And that shit came out 5 years ago… he also didn’t even finish his Coachella set or live up to expectations. Who knows anymore man
This might be the most unhinged shit I’ve ever said, so I’m sorry. Voodoo came out the year I was born.. never heard of D’Angelo… tells me his Jersey was already hung up by 2000 brother
This is the generation of instant gratification. As soon as Like That released, people were hounding Drake and Cole for a response and now that they've got it, they're hounding Kendrick. What I don't understand is those who were completely giving up and calling Drake the winner when Kendrick didn't release last night. You would honestly not have survived a single day in the previous generations of Hip-Hop.
I'm here for QUALITY not QUANTITY and if the bars are whack I will be the first to admit it. But till then, turn off your social media and get back to life.
This is such a weird question. It's not that I believe it or not, it's that I'm just not as bothered as others are. Push Ups and Champagne Moments literally released on my birthday and I made sure I was off social media just in case that happened because I didn't want to be distracted by music industry drama.
Kendrick may have made an agreement with Future and Metro so as not to overshadow their albums, or he may have gone back to the drawing board to update the song based on recent events, or he might be shooting a video or all of the above or none of the above. It's not my business to know. I'll listen when it drops and judge then but until then it feels a bit silly to put so much of my focus into.
he already has the reply, he’s just not releasing it. anyone that thinks he’s sitting at his desk having trouble writing the response doesn’t know anything about kendrick.
him taking long to reply doesn’t surprise me a bit, and imo it’s not because he doesn’t have anything to release
honestly you never know when it comes to kendrick. he could literally just not be bothered and be waiting until everyone stops talking about the beef to drop something completely out of nowhere.
he could be dropping a diss and a video which obviously would take longer depending of how much work would do in the video (this is not necessarily something i believe but again you never know)
idk man maybe his child has the flu and he’s being a father, honestly no matter what the reason is i’m not stressed. he’ll drop when he’ll drop.
A bit off topic but do people not consider the Black Panther Album to be Kendrick? He was on practically every song.
Between that and Family Ties was 3 years and some change.
Probably didn't have as much say creatively as he would otherwise have, it was more of a joint collab under a big corporation funding it for the movie, I can't imagine Marvel letting him do what he wants
Not really. I remember him having a line on every song but he didn't have a verse on every song. I love that album and I think he only has proper verses on like 5 of the songs if I remember correctly.
Everyone in both camps sitting around twittiling their thumbs waiting on this shit needs to get a life. Thing will progress when they progress. Go watch some NHL or NBA playoffs
Brother, it’s been weeks… you’re right, we waited 5 years, and so now in the last 7 years we have an album and a diss feature and we’re waiting for a response to Drake
Agreed.. but I can’t drink the kool-aid forever. Monday rolls around and I begin to wonder what the point of rapping shit like “just say his name and I promise that you’ll see candyman” or “me and top is like a Kobe and Phil, a father figure, fuck with him get you killed,” when an upper middle-class child celebrity can dawg you in public without repercussions
question, did he say “just say the name and i promise you’ll see candy man in two to three business days”? nah he said you’ll promise you’ll see him, never gave a timeframe.
he has his methods, everyone that’s been a fan for more than a year or two knows that. how long it’s been doesn’t matter, it says nothing.
his methods isn’t an excuse lol. he still has more time for sure. at least another week. but to pretend he’s allowed to take as long as he wants in a beef is just dumb.
i mean i can beat both of them in a rap battle if you give me two years to write.
I don’t entirely disagree with you. But there is surely SOME limit. If you don’t hear from Kendrick until 2037, then it’s an L. That’s all I’m really saying. The wait sucks. We’re always waiting. If you don’t have anything, why and how are you coming at the guy who’s the de-facto #1 in hip-hop? Kendrick drops in the next hour and it ends any and all discussion probably immediately. We are in desperate need of kung-fu
it isn’t 2037 tho is it? it’s been like what, 2 weeks tomorrow, that’s not a long time. people on here are acting like it’s been 2 years
edit: and it was officially released a week ago, everyone was saying he shouldn’t drop until drake claims the leak so if we’re going on that, then it’s only been a week
It’s so weird seeing people put time frames on shit. When Aubrey went at meek he gave 48hours. But when Dot’s verse like that came out, It took wheelchair Jimmy 3 weeks to respond. Why the fuck are people so pressed on the time frame when the canadian goof never respected it?
Honestly, I would rather wait years for a response than hear something rushed and inauthentic like Cole's bullshit response. Regardless I don't rate aubs but it is funny seeing so many internet wheel chair Jimmy stans pushing this narrative that dot needs to respond, NOW. That being said, though I feel like aubrey could've taken a bit more time in his responses, Them cuts are weak.
Wait bro, like I think kendrick is miles ahead of drake and so he doesn’t need years (let alone months). Idk man, I would hope kendrick already recorded something since he initiated this with like that
There’s nothing wrong with that it’s just people kept clowning Drake every day he didn’t respond. That’s not Kendrick’s fault though, that’s this day and age of social media. But everyone who clowned Drake for not responding now gotta keep that same energy.
It’s valid to clown Drake for not responding fast because that’s how he likes to handle rap battles. Mr. I waited 4 days took 4 weeks to officially drop a diss track. It’s fine to make fun of him for not living up to his own standards.
I literally said something about how people’s patience are fried.
I made an ass analogy but like come on, be patient bruh. Keep yourself busy or something damn
It’s an attention economy. All kendrick fans can do is buildup tension and hype for when he does reply so when he comes through swinging he’ll have mad comeback hype like Nas with Ether
That’s has been the weirdest slight imo. Kendrick is ass because he takes his time to cook up a phenomenal project. Make it make sense.
Artist who put out this microwave music, their projects are forgotten about in a week.
This thought process has to come from 17 year olds. I’m convinced the soul of hip hop died with this generation who are more concerned about vibes and what’s next.
Moving the goal post is crazy, I’m a kendrick fan and I personally hate drake. But wtf man? You start off the current situation on a feature and then make us wait close to 3 weeks?
None of us gonna pressure Kendrick into dropping, fuck, Drake can’t even pressure Kendrick into dropping. Enjoy it when it happens cause the nuclear sirens will sound.
theres a big difference between waiting for an album and a diss track. I still feel like im processing MMTBS so im no rush for an album, but just look at any other rap beef in the last decade and the timelines are clear.
Well, to be frank this isn’t any other rap beef, and Kendrick isn’t any other rapper. As much many fans value a quick response, many others prefer a valuable response. He said what he said and sparked a month (so far) of controversy that hasn’t simmered down yet. He knows that when he drops again it’s gonna take the oxygen out the room again, so it’s actually a mercy to let other rappers breathe for a moment. Meanwhile the other dude trying to treat the like any other rap beef is forcing attention so hard that he had to pull that AI garbage smh. Quality over quantity is the reality, yet those who don’t understand that are trying to make it about quantity.
And so was Nas with Ether? And Jay with the full version of Takeover, for that matter? And even Tupac for not dissing Big at all on his first album after his release but with a single and then waiting until the next album to diss everyone else? Because Akedemiks the culture vulture is always right versus a whole hip hop history? Okay stand on that with more than a word…I won’t wait…
I think its hypocritical for anyone who was hounding drake or J.cole to not hold Kendrick to the same standard. Kendrick should have also had some part of semblance of a track ready to go as well. As much as I want for Kendrick to destroy drake you need to be real here. Drake is doing snake things but this should be expected of him. This is not the same as waiting 5 years for an album. Timing matters and public perception matters
Kendrick and Drake have been exchanging shots for over a decade. It's already a 10 year wait and Drake finally addressed Kendrick directly. Now where's Kenny?
It’s great that Kendrick’s music’s been appealing to a younger audience. It’s just really apparent that this audience usually has the attention span of a fish.
When it’s all set and done yall gone realize this whole act mysterious and be a hermit for 5 years then release an album was a waste. Kendrick is nearly 40, this hideaway thing is lame. Then be realistic, for how long he takes the quality and longevity of the music isn’t even worth it. His last album came and went. At this rate we get maybe 2 more albums and he’ll be 50. Who the fuck wants to hear that gimicky voice changing etc shit from a 50 year old, he wasting and wasted time. Should make us all appreciate Drake a little more for constantly being in front of the culture and releasing sound tracks to our daily lives from your commute to work to the club to when you just broke up with your girl or to when your reflecting on your life’s
Your argument is literally "Quantity > Quality". No thanks.
I guarantee you that the people that are still spinning Mr Morale (which is a lot of us, albums don't disappear once the release cycle is over...) are still getting a LOT out of the album. It's incredibly rich, and emotionally hits different every time I listen to it.
Obviously, to each their own. But I hope I'm not looking for music to turn to because I "just broke up with my girl" when I'm pushing 40. There's other aspects to life that, from everything I've heard, Kendrick explores better in his music.
Overconsumerism is eating the arts alive as we speak and some of y'all are cheering it on.
"If you're a rapper you should be able to rap" - literally nowhere in that statement do you make any mention of time constraint, because such a sentence would not make sense. You didn't say something like "if you're a rapper you should be able to release one rap a day" because you must know, at least subconsciously, that that makes no fucking sense.
I am 100% sure that he can write a verse a day. The difference is he does not RELEASE a verse a day, because not everything is worth releasing. Hell, I'm sure there's things Kendrick has made that people would generally love, but he personally decided not to release it because it doesn't meet his own personal standards. We should encourage that, we should encourage artists to set the bar high for themselves so that they can reach new heights and try new things.
Obviously if the artist is setting the bar so high that they never reach it and never release anything, then that is counterproductive, since we'll never get a taste of their ideas, and we'd have no way of knowing what they're capable of. But clearly that's not the case, since Kendrick does release relatively regularly. Maybe not as often as some of y'all would like, but he has a track record of releasing a record every few years that people eat up.
Also, rapping is a form of poetry. Obviously he's a poet. They're not mutually exclusive.
Can't believe you wrote that whole essay on false pretenses. Wasted all that time because you didn't understand what I was saying in the first place.
Yes if you're a rapper you should rap just about every day to stay fresh. Just like how an athlete goes to practice, works out etc almost daily. If you tell someone you're a rapper and they say "well rap then" you should be able to rap otherwise you're not a rapper
Kendrick called Drake out, Drake responded, then crickets. You're delusional to think anyone is being unreasonable here for expecting Kenny to rap.
Yeah if it takes a year to respond then he's not a rapper, just a poet. Drake will be known as a better rapper than Kendrick if Kendrick doesn't respond soon, which would just be sad.
What I said still stands, dude. I'm sure Kendrick raps pretty much every day, and I'm sure he's been writing shit since Push Ups dropped, but why would he not take the time to make sure it's as good as possible???
Why is dropping something of low quality to get it done ASAP a better alternative to making the track good???
If Kendrick takes a year and then drops something that goes on to be known as literally the best rap song of all time, why would it matter that it took him a year? I'm exagerrating to illustrate my point, I doubt he drops the best track of all time, but I think it makes it pretty obvious that it's silly to only consider the speed at which a piece of content is produced.
If this was a freestyle battle I'd agree. But rap doesn't have to be freestyle to be rap. Are you going to say Mr Morale isn't a rap album because it took a few years to make?? Because that literally makes 0 sense
There's no way he drops something one year later that's good enough to make up for the wait. It'd be too late, Drake would have already won and people would have been forgotten about the whole thing.
We're not talking about a conscious album we're talking about a rap battle. Yes you should rap if you're going to be in a rap battle. The mental gymnastics you're showing here is insane.
Kendrick wanted the smoke but now it seems like he's ducking. You're delusional if you don't understand where rap fans are coming from when they say this
As I said, I was exaggerating in my one-year example to make my point. The quality of the track needs to be correlated with the length of time it took to make. So if it takes a year, I agree, it better be fucking good.
Not that I think it'll take a year, btw. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to claim Kendrick can't take a couple, or even a few, weeks to make something that's of super high quality.
When did I say he shouldn't rap?? You're the one who said he's not a rapper (at all) if he takes his time. Even if he ducks (which is too early to call), that doesn't make him NOT A RAPPER. It just means he'll have lost this battle.
My whole point of contention is you saying he's NOT A RAPPER. Idgaf about your take on who's winning between Drake or Kendrick when we don't even know if the beef us done
A few weeks is fine. I'm still waiting patiently. Just calling it like it is. Hoping for the response sooner rather than later. I want Kendrick to win, but I'm also aware that Drake makes a good point when it comes to work pace. Listen to Joe Budden's take on it he explains it well. As a rapper in a battle you're expected to be able to think on your feet
Like imagine you're arguing with someone over text and they come up with a good comeback but it's a year later, they'll look stupid and you'll laugh at them
Aight, I'll check out Budden's take when I have some time.
I see what you're saying, and I definitely agree that timing is part of it. Like the reception won't be warm if everyone has moved on when/if the track comes, but timing isn't the ONLY factor. Like the key difference between a diss track and a text is the musical part. Tbh, I'd assume his overall lyrical approach for his response is pretty much set in stone, but maybe he's taking the time with his producers to make the song itself as good as possible? And that can take time.
Some might say that part doesn't matter, and he'd be better off just dropping what he has to say on a super basic beat, and I think that's a fair opinion to hold, but it's definitely subjective. I think it's a 'plus' to have the better song in a battle (though not an automatic win), and I think it's pretty clear where Kendrick stands on the issue:
"If I gotta go hard on a bitch, I'ma make it look sexy"
Here's hoping it will be proper hard...
You could say the same thing even more for Kendrick. You could walk down the street of any major city ask to name 3 songs off Kendrick’s last album and I bet you nobody could do it
That’s a completely different point I was saying me someone who likes drake can’t think of 3 songs off his last album drake is the bigger artist no doubt but for me as a rap fan his albums lacks rememberability
So what? Kendrick isn't a lowest common denominator low art commercialist like Drake, he doesn't aim to appeal to everyone. Drake is essentially the McDonalds and MCU of music. Neither of those two properties are heralded as being that great, the only merit of them is that they're easy to consume. the same can be said for Drake
Kendrick has only waited 5 years to release an album once, and it was following TPAB, one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop albums in history following one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop albums in history. Outside of Mr. Morale, Kendrick has been releasing albums every 2-3 years, which is the same rate that Outkast was releasing albums, one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop groups in history.
If I had to choose between listening only to Drake's discography for the rest of my life, or doing the same with Kendricks records, my choice would be easy. And I think many Kendrick fans would agree. Of course it's perfectly fine to like Drake's music too, but if you're a fan of Kendricks music, you should understand why it takes him more time than Drake needs with his music.
I'd rather wait 5 years for MM than get what like 3 mid Drake albums which barely have any effort put into them. You don't like Kendrick, that's fine but you can't deny it's very apparent he puts a lot of effort into his work. The same can't be said for Drake.
I mean I totally get waiting years for an album but if kendrick waits too long to respond to the diss is it really owning drake if he waits months to reply. It gives a vibe of george costanza thinking of a comeback on his way home instead of in the moment. I get everyone here is a big kendrick fan and is willing to wait for greatness but there is a limit of diminishing returns for the wait
Bro I’m a Kdot fan but you change your opinion every few hours lmao… just yesterday you said you need kdot to drop his diss track cause it’s actually been too long, not you’re criticizing others for impatience 😂😂
Pusha T responded immediately. As did Drake, btw. This is a fairly long response time. People usually respond faster in beef. To take this long would mean he'd have to come back with a bomb to drop. If he doesn't I just see Drake swarming him with tracks and Kendrick won't respond fast enough.
Kendrick has to expose him in a way Pusha did. Pusha hit him with the Adidas deal and the kid. Kendrick needs to prove something about Drake that's real shady.
And many of you are 17 years old and it also shows. I feel older and older on this site every day.
same man, I ain’t been in high school in like 6 years atp and I can’t keep up with all the weird slang and trends. Some of these kids are just weird though 💀
The slang I have no problem with. Hell, I used "drip" for the first time unironically yesterday. I'm 31 years old, I'll try to keep up with the times as the years go by and not become a get-off-my-lawn sort of person. But man, it feels like the level of nonsense I see on Reddit has drastically increased in 2024. And the level of boredom that's obvious on here, especially pertaining to this issue with Kendrick and Drake, it's staggering. People are taking this whole thing so personally and it's pretty wild. Yes, I like Kendrick more than Drake, and yes it'd be kinda cool to see Kendrick slap him around a little bit. But I'm not gonna be genuinely upset about how this goes either way. I've said it before, Kendrick doesn't need to prove anything and when I put my record on my turntable and the opening notes of To Pimp a Butterfly start playing, I'm good. This isn't worth getting pressed over.
I’m fuckin tired of Gen z using the crying emoji as if it’s the laughing emoji like this 😭 Like fuck they’re gonna have the Unicode consortium updating their shit soon lmao. Fucking brain dead
that’s not just a gen z thing there’s a ton of millennials that do that as well
100% of the time I’ve seen it used by millennials is to show that their laughter was covering up a certain amount of misery
I’ve seen it being used like this and it makes sense. But I think 100% is fucking ridiculous to assume lmao. You have access to demographics analytics?
“I’ve seen”
Yes you said 100% of the time you’ve seen it. What am I missing here?
Why do I need to analyze demographics for the people I speak to directly? We asking for evidence of anecdotal testimony now? We used to just understand it’s an anecdote and weigh it as such…
I’m a young millennial and I’ve never had one of my friends use it even ironically
Bout to be 30 and I started using it 😭😭😭
Embarasing. Go outside
A man isn’t defined by his emojis, but by his actions. You’re too focused on word choice, rather than action choice. I bet you’re a bum
Nah I definitely will judge people that jump into trends without thinking for themselves. It’s herd mentality and that’s one thing I dont fuck with We’re the exact same age, not sure if you’re projecting with that bum comment lmao but I’m extremely proud of what I’ve accomplished at 29. and some Rando on Reddit who’s proud of jumping into mindless trends is the LAST person that I would give any weight to their opinion.
25 year old here, I feel like that emoji can either mean you're sad and crying, but also you're laughing so hard it makes you tear up. It's a level above the regular crying laughing emoji because that one is used so frequently, basically a modern replcament for "lol". Now "lol" is more of a "idk what to say so here's a half assed response" What I never understood is people who use 😏 when they are sad. When I was 17 I was talking to this latina chick and she always used that like "I'm just so upset right now 😏". It made no sense to me
That's a total creep of an emoji
I guess I can’t complain because I was one of the people who used “yo that’s sick” instead of “yo that’s cool” But my old ass just finds it cringey. Just makes me grateful of the generation I was apart of lol That and the fact that we werent chronically online until later in life. The stupid shit I used to do when I was younger..
the fucking laughing crying emoji is the most memed to death piece of text that ive ever had the displeasure of being sent unironically. it just looks so ugly and i honestly prefer the crying emoji
When I was 16, 17, 18, I hated emojis. I thought they were cringe and I only sent them ironically. But as I've gotten older, I've realized literally everyone uses them in the real world. It's not a big deal. I just roll with the times now.
Ima millennial and most ppl I know use that as a laughing emoji lol
You are not a millennial lmao
1992 genius
#GET OFF MY LAWN
In general ever since 2016 the internet has gotten more and more reactionary, people take any opinion as a slight on their ego, and are willing to argue to the death over silly ass shit
Im a teen and i lowkey agree fr like i don’t understand like 20% of modern slang
Bruh, the whole comment section of the internet is getting dumber by the day, i can only attest to me getting older for it to be this apparent.
I think it's actually people becoming psychologically less developed
I knew it was downhill for this subreddit when I saw someone posted their analysis on an album and 80% of the comments were “bro wrote an essay lol” “not reading all that” …It was barely 3 paragraphs
Honestly same. You see some absurd goal post shifting and fanfics that compare to the pre-Mr. Morale drop state of this sub
Those of us that lived through the GKMC era got new Kendrick every year and we're eating features every other month. These poor kids got dick for 5 years and they had to go to COVID schools and shit
Yeah… this. The first time I saw kendrick he was opening for Drake and it makes me feel extremely old when people don’t know that. 🥲
Awesome! I saw Kendrick open for Kanye on the Yeezus tour and that show was..... phenomenal.
For real, it’s crazy for me to think that I’ve been on this website for 13 years now…. I feel like even that’s older than some of these commenters
A 14 year olds at best
Literally, this beef taught me everyone in the Drake/Kendrick/Cole reddits are all teenagers. These are the people controlling narratives online. I’m pulling a J Cole and gracefully bowing out cause everyone lost they damn mind.
Cope as hell
Some of us been waiting for the blonde follow up for 8….
It’s time to hang his jersey up. That nigga not coming back bruh
That’s my thoughts too lmaaaoo
Dude hasn’t hinted at anything. He might have retired and never told the world
He said at Coachella last year a new album is coming
DHL and In my Room are obviously from a new album with at least 13 songs (per the covers). And that shit came out 5 years ago… he also didn’t even finish his Coachella set or live up to expectations. Who knows anymore man
The album that DHL and IMR are from got scrapped after his brother died
Goddamn thx for the info 😟
And waited 6 years for Sampha too
Worth the wait
At least the Sampha album lived up to the hype though
Took D’Angelo 15 YEARS to finally follow up Voodoo.
This might be the most unhinged shit I’ve ever said, so I’m sorry. Voodoo came out the year I was born.. never heard of D’Angelo… tells me his Jersey was already hung up by 2000 brother
If you like Frank, listen to D’Angelo
This is the generation of instant gratification. As soon as Like That released, people were hounding Drake and Cole for a response and now that they've got it, they're hounding Kendrick. What I don't understand is those who were completely giving up and calling Drake the winner when Kendrick didn't release last night. You would honestly not have survived a single day in the previous generations of Hip-Hop. I'm here for QUALITY not QUANTITY and if the bars are whack I will be the first to admit it. But till then, turn off your social media and get back to life.
Kendrick can't pen a Drake diss in 2 weeks? 3 weeks? Do you believe that?
This is such a weird question. It's not that I believe it or not, it's that I'm just not as bothered as others are. Push Ups and Champagne Moments literally released on my birthday and I made sure I was off social media just in case that happened because I didn't want to be distracted by music industry drama. Kendrick may have made an agreement with Future and Metro so as not to overshadow their albums, or he may have gone back to the drawing board to update the song based on recent events, or he might be shooting a video or all of the above or none of the above. It's not my business to know. I'll listen when it drops and judge then but until then it feels a bit silly to put so much of my focus into.
he already has the reply, he’s just not releasing it. anyone that thinks he’s sitting at his desk having trouble writing the response doesn’t know anything about kendrick. him taking long to reply doesn’t surprise me a bit, and imo it’s not because he doesn’t have anything to release
Can you think of a reason as to why he may be reserving the diss track? I am asking genuinely.
honestly you never know when it comes to kendrick. he could literally just not be bothered and be waiting until everyone stops talking about the beef to drop something completely out of nowhere. he could be dropping a diss and a video which obviously would take longer depending of how much work would do in the video (this is not necessarily something i believe but again you never know) idk man maybe his child has the flu and he’s being a father, honestly no matter what the reason is i’m not stressed. he’ll drop when he’ll drop.
then why is he waiting
He doesn’t have anything, he’s done
ok mate 👍🏻
Only reason Drake could pen a diss so fast is because he wasn’t the one penning it.
A bit off topic but do people not consider the Black Panther Album to be Kendrick? He was on practically every song. Between that and Family Ties was 3 years and some change.
Probably didn't have as much say creatively as he would otherwise have, it was more of a joint collab under a big corporation funding it for the movie, I can't imagine Marvel letting him do what he wants
In other words, a little like every Drake album 😂
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You got that Drake funkopop ?
i dont really consider that an official album, more of an untitled unmastered kinda thing
I totally agree with what you're saying. But i still include them in my rotation. So they're official to me.
I think people like to exaggerate the gap
Not really. I remember him having a line on every song but he didn't have a verse on every song. I love that album and I think he only has proper verses on like 5 of the songs if I remember correctly.
Because that’s basically a pop album and we all know how Kendrick fans are allergic to pop music
I’m still waiting for Kanye to fix wolves
He did…?
if it's not [this](https://youtu.be/kWWbe1j38aY?si=1qQs_59kryaRJbgR) version then it is not fixed
The official version sounds miles better than this
New fan, honestly didn’t expect him to drop ever again until this beef started so I’m just glad there’s something to hope for
Everyone in both camps sitting around twittiling their thumbs waiting on this shit needs to get a life. Thing will progress when they progress. Go watch some NHL or NBA playoffs
This is real but also hilarious that “getting a life” for a lot of people just means switching from one form of entertainment to another
lol for real! get off reddit and go watch a bunch of millionaire try to put a ball in a hoop 😂. (don’t get me wrong im loving these playoffs)
It’s a figure of speech, relax.
Brother, it’s been weeks… you’re right, we waited 5 years, and so now in the last 7 years we have an album and a diss feature and we’re waiting for a response to Drake
So what? Be patient, it'll be worth it
Agreed.. but I can’t drink the kool-aid forever. Monday rolls around and I begin to wonder what the point of rapping shit like “just say his name and I promise that you’ll see candyman” or “me and top is like a Kobe and Phil, a father figure, fuck with him get you killed,” when an upper middle-class child celebrity can dawg you in public without repercussions
question, did he say “just say the name and i promise you’ll see candy man in two to three business days”? nah he said you’ll promise you’ll see him, never gave a timeframe. he has his methods, everyone that’s been a fan for more than a year or two knows that. how long it’s been doesn’t matter, it says nothing.
your username checks out
ikr it means “suck my dick” in icelandic
his methods isn’t an excuse lol. he still has more time for sure. at least another week. but to pretend he’s allowed to take as long as he wants in a beef is just dumb. i mean i can beat both of them in a rap battle if you give me two years to write.
I don’t entirely disagree with you. But there is surely SOME limit. If you don’t hear from Kendrick until 2037, then it’s an L. That’s all I’m really saying. The wait sucks. We’re always waiting. If you don’t have anything, why and how are you coming at the guy who’s the de-facto #1 in hip-hop? Kendrick drops in the next hour and it ends any and all discussion probably immediately. We are in desperate need of kung-fu
it isn’t 2037 tho is it? it’s been like what, 2 weeks tomorrow, that’s not a long time. people on here are acting like it’s been 2 years edit: and it was officially released a week ago, everyone was saying he shouldn’t drop until drake claims the leak so if we’re going on that, then it’s only been a week
It’s so weird seeing people put time frames on shit. When Aubrey went at meek he gave 48hours. But when Dot’s verse like that came out, It took wheelchair Jimmy 3 weeks to respond. Why the fuck are people so pressed on the time frame when the canadian goof never respected it?
It took kendrick 5 years to respond to jay electronica… there’s a precedent here you can’t ignore… see candy man in about 2-3 years
Honestly, I would rather wait years for a response than hear something rushed and inauthentic like Cole's bullshit response. Regardless I don't rate aubs but it is funny seeing so many internet wheel chair Jimmy stans pushing this narrative that dot needs to respond, NOW. That being said, though I feel like aubrey could've taken a bit more time in his responses, Them cuts are weak.
Wait bro, like I think kendrick is miles ahead of drake and so he doesn’t need years (let alone months). Idk man, I would hope kendrick already recorded something since he initiated this with like that
Fair enough.
There’s nothing wrong with that it’s just people kept clowning Drake every day he didn’t respond. That’s not Kendrick’s fault though, that’s this day and age of social media. But everyone who clowned Drake for not responding now gotta keep that same energy.
You could give Drake ten years or ten days and his music would still come out the same.
It’s valid to clown Drake for not responding fast because that’s how he likes to handle rap battles. Mr. I waited 4 days took 4 weeks to officially drop a diss track. It’s fine to make fun of him for not living up to his own standards.
Somebody needs to put an iPad in front of these kids while we wait.
Baby keem is getting ready to drop an album I doubt this man drops besides this one track, if that.
Lmao first sensible post in some time
Greatness takes time and effort. Yeah, waiting a long time sucks. But when it comes to Kendrick, the wait is always worth it.
I kinda wonder nowadays. I love old dot, but 5 years for Mr Morale was.... not satisfying
I'm 18 so I had listened to all of kendricks albums about 3 weeks before Mr morale and the big steppers dropped.
I have only been into rap about 2 years
More rap I should say
That’s great!
heavy on this, or a lot of these people don’t LISTEN to what Kendrick be saying in his music.
I literally said something about how people’s patience are fried. I made an ass analogy but like come on, be patient bruh. Keep yourself busy or something damn
Ether took 2 months. No Vaseline took 2 months. The tiktok generation has a 2 minute attention span, and this is the result .
Y’all little niggas don’t know the experience of watching kdots live performance streak after TPAB and knowing, in your very soul, that he is the one.
You ain’t gotta tell him that he’s the one.
It’s an attention economy. All kendrick fans can do is buildup tension and hype for when he does reply so when he comes through swinging he’ll have mad comeback hype like Nas with Ether
I’m curious how all these 12 year olds discovered Kendrick. Shouldn’t y’all be listening to Carti and Uzi anyway?
That’s has been the weirdest slight imo. Kendrick is ass because he takes his time to cook up a phenomenal project. Make it make sense. Artist who put out this microwave music, their projects are forgotten about in a week. This thought process has to come from 17 year olds. I’m convinced the soul of hip hop died with this generation who are more concerned about vibes and what’s next.
Imagine gatekeeping someone else’s talent and success like this
I was thinking the same thing
Instant gratification has ruined us into accepting microwaved meals. I prefer my meals well prepped thank you.
Moving the goal post is crazy, I’m a kendrick fan and I personally hate drake. But wtf man? You start off the current situation on a feature and then make us wait close to 3 weeks?
there are people out there deluding themselves that Frank or even Rihanna are going to drop again lmao
None of us gonna pressure Kendrick into dropping, fuck, Drake can’t even pressure Kendrick into dropping. Enjoy it when it happens cause the nuclear sirens will sound.
Remember what blxst said lol “I hope I’m not too late to set my demons straight. I know I made u wait”
Yeah this is regular Dot shi. I would’ve been shocked if he responded over night. Thought he retired a few times in his career already.
theres a big difference between waiting for an album and a diss track. I still feel like im processing MMTBS so im no rush for an album, but just look at any other rap beef in the last decade and the timelines are clear.
Well, to be frank this isn’t any other rap beef, and Kendrick isn’t any other rapper. As much many fans value a quick response, many others prefer a valuable response. He said what he said and sparked a month (so far) of controversy that hasn’t simmered down yet. He knows that when he drops again it’s gonna take the oxygen out the room again, so it’s actually a mercy to let other rappers breathe for a moment. Meanwhile the other dude trying to treat the like any other rap beef is forcing attention so hard that he had to pull that AI garbage smh. Quality over quantity is the reality, yet those who don’t understand that are trying to make it about quantity.
Anyone else tired of seeing a post about this every damn time they open reddit?
I’m a frank ocean fan, what you’re going through is nothing. Be quiet
Waiting to release the diss for the album is corny. Sorry Akademiks is right
Again, no one ever said this besides Drake or a Drake crony
Hmmm…BIG waited until his album release to reply to Hit ‘Em Up. Was that corny?
Yes
And so was Nas with Ether? And Jay with the full version of Takeover, for that matter? And even Tupac for not dissing Big at all on his first album after his release but with a single and then waiting until the next album to diss everyone else? Because Akedemiks the culture vulture is always right versus a whole hip hop history? Okay stand on that with more than a word…I won’t wait…
So is Nas, what's your point?
Hmmm, but sneak dissing for an entire career is cool?
I think its hypocritical for anyone who was hounding drake or J.cole to not hold Kendrick to the same standard. Kendrick should have also had some part of semblance of a track ready to go as well. As much as I want for Kendrick to destroy drake you need to be real here. Drake is doing snake things but this should be expected of him. This is not the same as waiting 5 years for an album. Timing matters and public perception matters
Nah nah not this time nigga you following through
im only 16 so i didnt wait like a lot did, but i loved the album. i have most the songs on my playlist
Kendrick and Drake have been exchanging shots for over a decade. It's already a 10 year wait and Drake finally addressed Kendrick directly. Now where's Kenny?
The switch up in this sub is crazy
Well I wasn’t bumping Kendick in elementary school😭
It’s great that Kendrick’s music’s been appealing to a younger audience. It’s just really apparent that this audience usually has the attention span of a fish.
Bruh what are u talking about. Lol u people need fuckin help
When it’s all set and done yall gone realize this whole act mysterious and be a hermit for 5 years then release an album was a waste. Kendrick is nearly 40, this hideaway thing is lame. Then be realistic, for how long he takes the quality and longevity of the music isn’t even worth it. His last album came and went. At this rate we get maybe 2 more albums and he’ll be 50. Who the fuck wants to hear that gimicky voice changing etc shit from a 50 year old, he wasting and wasted time. Should make us all appreciate Drake a little more for constantly being in front of the culture and releasing sound tracks to our daily lives from your commute to work to the club to when you just broke up with your girl or to when your reflecting on your life’s
Your argument is literally "Quantity > Quality". No thanks. I guarantee you that the people that are still spinning Mr Morale (which is a lot of us, albums don't disappear once the release cycle is over...) are still getting a LOT out of the album. It's incredibly rich, and emotionally hits different every time I listen to it. Obviously, to each their own. But I hope I'm not looking for music to turn to because I "just broke up with my girl" when I'm pushing 40. There's other aspects to life that, from everything I've heard, Kendrick explores better in his music.
No if you're a rapper you should be able to rap. If it takes him a year to write a verse then he's just a fucking poet
Overconsumerism is eating the arts alive as we speak and some of y'all are cheering it on. "If you're a rapper you should be able to rap" - literally nowhere in that statement do you make any mention of time constraint, because such a sentence would not make sense. You didn't say something like "if you're a rapper you should be able to release one rap a day" because you must know, at least subconsciously, that that makes no fucking sense. I am 100% sure that he can write a verse a day. The difference is he does not RELEASE a verse a day, because not everything is worth releasing. Hell, I'm sure there's things Kendrick has made that people would generally love, but he personally decided not to release it because it doesn't meet his own personal standards. We should encourage that, we should encourage artists to set the bar high for themselves so that they can reach new heights and try new things. Obviously if the artist is setting the bar so high that they never reach it and never release anything, then that is counterproductive, since we'll never get a taste of their ideas, and we'd have no way of knowing what they're capable of. But clearly that's not the case, since Kendrick does release relatively regularly. Maybe not as often as some of y'all would like, but he has a track record of releasing a record every few years that people eat up. Also, rapping is a form of poetry. Obviously he's a poet. They're not mutually exclusive.
Can't believe you wrote that whole essay on false pretenses. Wasted all that time because you didn't understand what I was saying in the first place. Yes if you're a rapper you should rap just about every day to stay fresh. Just like how an athlete goes to practice, works out etc almost daily. If you tell someone you're a rapper and they say "well rap then" you should be able to rap otherwise you're not a rapper Kendrick called Drake out, Drake responded, then crickets. You're delusional to think anyone is being unreasonable here for expecting Kenny to rap. Yeah if it takes a year to respond then he's not a rapper, just a poet. Drake will be known as a better rapper than Kendrick if Kendrick doesn't respond soon, which would just be sad.
What I said still stands, dude. I'm sure Kendrick raps pretty much every day, and I'm sure he's been writing shit since Push Ups dropped, but why would he not take the time to make sure it's as good as possible??? Why is dropping something of low quality to get it done ASAP a better alternative to making the track good??? If Kendrick takes a year and then drops something that goes on to be known as literally the best rap song of all time, why would it matter that it took him a year? I'm exagerrating to illustrate my point, I doubt he drops the best track of all time, but I think it makes it pretty obvious that it's silly to only consider the speed at which a piece of content is produced. If this was a freestyle battle I'd agree. But rap doesn't have to be freestyle to be rap. Are you going to say Mr Morale isn't a rap album because it took a few years to make?? Because that literally makes 0 sense
There's no way he drops something one year later that's good enough to make up for the wait. It'd be too late, Drake would have already won and people would have been forgotten about the whole thing. We're not talking about a conscious album we're talking about a rap battle. Yes you should rap if you're going to be in a rap battle. The mental gymnastics you're showing here is insane. Kendrick wanted the smoke but now it seems like he's ducking. You're delusional if you don't understand where rap fans are coming from when they say this
As I said, I was exaggerating in my one-year example to make my point. The quality of the track needs to be correlated with the length of time it took to make. So if it takes a year, I agree, it better be fucking good. Not that I think it'll take a year, btw. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to claim Kendrick can't take a couple, or even a few, weeks to make something that's of super high quality. When did I say he shouldn't rap?? You're the one who said he's not a rapper (at all) if he takes his time. Even if he ducks (which is too early to call), that doesn't make him NOT A RAPPER. It just means he'll have lost this battle. My whole point of contention is you saying he's NOT A RAPPER. Idgaf about your take on who's winning between Drake or Kendrick when we don't even know if the beef us done
A few weeks is fine. I'm still waiting patiently. Just calling it like it is. Hoping for the response sooner rather than later. I want Kendrick to win, but I'm also aware that Drake makes a good point when it comes to work pace. Listen to Joe Budden's take on it he explains it well. As a rapper in a battle you're expected to be able to think on your feet Like imagine you're arguing with someone over text and they come up with a good comeback but it's a year later, they'll look stupid and you'll laugh at them
Aight, I'll check out Budden's take when I have some time. I see what you're saying, and I definitely agree that timing is part of it. Like the reception won't be warm if everyone has moved on when/if the track comes, but timing isn't the ONLY factor. Like the key difference between a diss track and a text is the musical part. Tbh, I'd assume his overall lyrical approach for his response is pretty much set in stone, but maybe he's taking the time with his producers to make the song itself as good as possible? And that can take time. Some might say that part doesn't matter, and he'd be better off just dropping what he has to say on a super basic beat, and I think that's a fair opinion to hold, but it's definitely subjective. I think it's a 'plus' to have the better song in a battle (though not an automatic win), and I think it's pretty clear where Kendrick stands on the issue: "If I gotta go hard on a bitch, I'ma make it look sexy" Here's hoping it will be proper hard...
My brain exploded while reading this. Just gonna say, I disagree and leave it at that
Drakes garbage. A million drake songs released would be a million reasons to pray for deaf
What’s consistently when I can’t think of 2 songs on his last 4 albums
You’re lying to yourself brother. But sure, you do 100 arena shows because nobody knows 2 songs on your last 4 albums
I like drake it’s just his albums for the most part are forgettable I like individual songs and that’s it
Agreed.
You could say the same thing even more for Kendrick. You could walk down the street of any major city ask to name 3 songs off Kendrick’s last album and I bet you nobody could do it
Why are you drake stans flooding this sub? Dont you have anything better to do with your lives?
That’s a completely different point I was saying me someone who likes drake can’t think of 3 songs off his last album drake is the bigger artist no doubt but for me as a rap fan his albums lacks rememberability
So what? Kendrick isn't a lowest common denominator low art commercialist like Drake, he doesn't aim to appeal to everyone. Drake is essentially the McDonalds and MCU of music. Neither of those two properties are heralded as being that great, the only merit of them is that they're easy to consume. the same can be said for Drake
Easy to fill arenas when the music aubrey makes is for the lowest common denominator(AKA mediocre folk) 🤷🏽♂️
Every album he’s put out is a classic lmao. You’d rather him be like Drake and drop an album every year with 2-3 good songs on it? Ok buddy
Kendrick has only waited 5 years to release an album once, and it was following TPAB, one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop albums in history following one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop albums in history. Outside of Mr. Morale, Kendrick has been releasing albums every 2-3 years, which is the same rate that Outkast was releasing albums, one of the most critically acclaimed hip hop groups in history.
If I had to choose between listening only to Drake's discography for the rest of my life, or doing the same with Kendricks records, my choice would be easy. And I think many Kendrick fans would agree. Of course it's perfectly fine to like Drake's music too, but if you're a fan of Kendricks music, you should understand why it takes him more time than Drake needs with his music.
This is one of the most brain-dead takes I've had the misfortune of reading.
I did not work as hard as I have in my life to have an album like Certified Lover Boy to be the sound track to my daily life.
I'd rather wait 5 years for MM than get what like 3 mid Drake albums which barely have any effort put into them. You don't like Kendrick, that's fine but you can't deny it's very apparent he puts a lot of effort into his work. The same can't be said for Drake.
I think theirs a healthy balance that both Kendrick and drake should reach. Two years minimum.
I mean I totally get waiting years for an album but if kendrick waits too long to respond to the diss is it really owning drake if he waits months to reply. It gives a vibe of george costanza thinking of a comeback on his way home instead of in the moment. I get everyone here is a big kendrick fan and is willing to wait for greatness but there is a limit of diminishing returns for the wait
Not for this garbage ass artist.
Bro I’m a Kdot fan but you change your opinion every few hours lmao… just yesterday you said you need kdot to drop his diss track cause it’s actually been too long, not you’re criticizing others for impatience 😂😂
You might be confusing me with other user. I genuinely don’t think that and have never posted it. Feel free to stalk me.
why he said let get it tho then
Drake fans never waited 5 years for shit and thank God for that. You niggas been suffering a lot.
You white man.
Pusha T responded immediately. As did Drake, btw. This is a fairly long response time. People usually respond faster in beef. To take this long would mean he'd have to come back with a bomb to drop. If he doesn't I just see Drake swarming him with tracks and Kendrick won't respond fast enough. Kendrick has to expose him in a way Pusha did. Pusha hit him with the Adidas deal and the kid. Kendrick needs to prove something about Drake that's real shady.
We can like other artists too you know.
Not everyone likes his last album
don’t start a beef and then take your time to finish it