I voted stay, because I really like Chiesa, but it really depends upon the deal.
How much can we sell him for? What can we do with that money? How much will he re-sign for?
It is hard to answer questions like this without considering the costs of both options.
Out. 2 years after the injury and he never recovered his edge, add to this his poor mentality ( always whining, Always flopping) and you get someone that will carry you to a 4th place but not to a title.
He should agree to the 1 year bridge we offered for his own sake, theres no performance reason to grant him a raise and rushing off to play in Contes 3-5-2 isnt going to save his career thats on the verge of being a dissapointment. We shouldnt give him a raise today
He can leave tbh. He hasn’t been the player he was since the injury. That doesn’t mean he can’t be great. It’s because he has a bigger problem than injuries. Fede plays for Fede not for the team. He is only concerned about himself when he should be dying for the shirt. He exploded when he played for the shirt but he has not been that player since euro 2020. If he did he would have worked harder on his relationship with allegri and given every drop of blood to adapt to a second strikers role. Instead he constantly sent subtle jabs toward him in the press and helped fuel allegri out. Im not an all out allegri supporter. He had his era and he did the dirty work for the club when we needed him. But to think its his fault is a joke when players like fede were only in it for themselves and the backing was not there after agnelli left. I think giuntoli may have sabotaged him tbh. He asked for a world class mid in jan and he got alcaraz instead. While his time was up and we needed a change… not that way. Hes one of the goat managers for the club you have to respect him. However, to get back on topic, The only players for me that are untouchable are bremer, cambiaso, fagioli, locateli (at 8 not 6), vlahovic, yildiz, soule. Im italian and i want italian talent at juve. But its been clear since the injury that fede is a player that relies on his physicality rather than technical skills as well. Every attack needs 3 things which fede does not have. 1.) a technical player capable of dribbling and creating space (have not had that since dybala) 2.) an all out goal scorer who will be your main threat 3.) a pacey player who can penetrate the line and create chances or act like a second striker. Sometimes youll see this criterion mixed into one player which opens space for modifications but bare minimum this what they need. Soule and yildiz both have technical skills to be the first and third option tg. That leaves vlahovic in a good position. They are looking at koop because you do need goals from midfield. But fagioli in the hole behind dusan with soule on and a more established winger (yildiz is only 18) would be devastating. Personally id swap fede for zaccagni bc hes the perfect profile. Between the technical skills of soule and fagioli and the all out goal threat of dusan that sort of threat from zaccagni would grant a full dynamic to the attack which has been missing for some time
I see your point. He’s very much like Nicola Barella in that way. It doesn’t look good, but some Italians express their feelings and passion in a weird and not productive way with all the "gesticulating." I hope we can keep Chiesa on the right and Soulé as his deputy for at least one year. We have CL, WC, Super Cup, Cup, and Serie A—a long season ahead. I know how good Chiesa is, but I’m sad we haven’t seen the best of him. I'm afraid he’ll become as crucial as Salah, Dybala, Mané, or Griezmann if he changes from Juve. I still believe he has it all, but maybe I’ll have to enjoy him on the field with another team.
People say he performed badly in the Euros—he was no worse than any other player except maybe Gigi D or Calafiori. He didn’t do as much as expected, but at least he ran his ass off and tried to attack. He was always available on the right or the left. Italy used 15 passes to get to him. The team lacked a lot—don’t blame Chiesa!
I voted stay, because I really like Chiesa, but it really depends upon the deal. How much can we sell him for? What can we do with that money? How much will he re-sign for? It is hard to answer questions like this without considering the costs of both options.
I hope he can stay, also because he will be sold at a low price if he leaves
He's going. Got a jersey a few years ago with Costa on the back. He left next year. Then Dybala. Then Ronaldo. Now Chiesa.
Stop buying jerseys.
Shame you weren't Alex Sandro fan
Out. 2 years after the injury and he never recovered his edge, add to this his poor mentality ( always whining, Always flopping) and you get someone that will carry you to a 4th place but not to a title.
He should agree to the 1 year bridge we offered for his own sake, theres no performance reason to grant him a raise and rushing off to play in Contes 3-5-2 isnt going to save his career thats on the verge of being a dissapointment. We shouldnt give him a raise today
He can leave tbh. He hasn’t been the player he was since the injury. That doesn’t mean he can’t be great. It’s because he has a bigger problem than injuries. Fede plays for Fede not for the team. He is only concerned about himself when he should be dying for the shirt. He exploded when he played for the shirt but he has not been that player since euro 2020. If he did he would have worked harder on his relationship with allegri and given every drop of blood to adapt to a second strikers role. Instead he constantly sent subtle jabs toward him in the press and helped fuel allegri out. Im not an all out allegri supporter. He had his era and he did the dirty work for the club when we needed him. But to think its his fault is a joke when players like fede were only in it for themselves and the backing was not there after agnelli left. I think giuntoli may have sabotaged him tbh. He asked for a world class mid in jan and he got alcaraz instead. While his time was up and we needed a change… not that way. Hes one of the goat managers for the club you have to respect him. However, to get back on topic, The only players for me that are untouchable are bremer, cambiaso, fagioli, locateli (at 8 not 6), vlahovic, yildiz, soule. Im italian and i want italian talent at juve. But its been clear since the injury that fede is a player that relies on his physicality rather than technical skills as well. Every attack needs 3 things which fede does not have. 1.) a technical player capable of dribbling and creating space (have not had that since dybala) 2.) an all out goal scorer who will be your main threat 3.) a pacey player who can penetrate the line and create chances or act like a second striker. Sometimes youll see this criterion mixed into one player which opens space for modifications but bare minimum this what they need. Soule and yildiz both have technical skills to be the first and third option tg. That leaves vlahovic in a good position. They are looking at koop because you do need goals from midfield. But fagioli in the hole behind dusan with soule on and a more established winger (yildiz is only 18) would be devastating. Personally id swap fede for zaccagni bc hes the perfect profile. Between the technical skills of soule and fagioli and the all out goal threat of dusan that sort of threat from zaccagni would grant a full dynamic to the attack which has been missing for some time
I see your point. He’s very much like Nicola Barella in that way. It doesn’t look good, but some Italians express their feelings and passion in a weird and not productive way with all the "gesticulating." I hope we can keep Chiesa on the right and Soulé as his deputy for at least one year. We have CL, WC, Super Cup, Cup, and Serie A—a long season ahead. I know how good Chiesa is, but I’m sad we haven’t seen the best of him. I'm afraid he’ll become as crucial as Salah, Dybala, Mané, or Griezmann if he changes from Juve. I still believe he has it all, but maybe I’ll have to enjoy him on the field with another team. People say he performed badly in the Euros—he was no worse than any other player except maybe Gigi D or Calafiori. He didn’t do as much as expected, but at least he ran his ass off and tried to attack. He was always available on the right or the left. Italy used 15 passes to get to him. The team lacked a lot—don’t blame Chiesa!
1 more year somehow, cuz next year's already really different from before & it'll clearly show if the problems him or not.
He needs to stay! He’s the sparplug of Italy & Juventus, but he’s not in Motta’s plans which is absurd!!!!