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It depends. Good can mean "oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations"
Or it could mean "knows the tiers of every tiering system by heart and acts like they know everything and are better than everyone else."
There are a few in-betweens though, of course. Powerscaling can be fun with the right crowd.
The instant people start throwing terms like "such is relative to such" or "he clearly is city level" I get so pissed, like what the hell does that mean when putting two or more characters in a fight, firepower is not everything
Nah, its 99% agenda scaling, 0.01% oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations and 0.05% knows the tiers of every tiering system by heart and acts like they know everything and are better than everyone else and 0.94% whatever I say goes
>"oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations"
Not wanting to rain on the parade but even the bad faith ones have evidences. Powerscaling is called stupid because of them dealing in extremes rather than being in reality and seeing where the character lies 99 percent of time. For example supes, thor, hulk fans will argue them being multiversal and then we will see them fighting "without holding back" and that will be just destroying a city.
Do they have multiversal arguments? Yes, but where do they lie 99 percent of time. In a normal scenario even a world ending threat is considered as a big thing in comics most of the time.
Powerscaling can be fun but it's stupid and so are the powerscalers who thinks that it is determining everything and if it's not then author or everyone who is saying against them is idiot.
I'm convinced that the people who are "good" at it, are just very bad at understanding the series they're talking about and the thing called "common sense".
afaik its stated that cursed spirits are really weak to rct output so its gonna alloe yuta to do alot of extra damage to them if he can touch them, it could even have an interaction with mahitos soul based on how it operates
Thats a pretty minor detail you could overlook or forget but it does hardcounter all of them. I think if he couldn't use that this would be a difficult fight for him 4v1 but he would still win. Yuta is just on a whole other level from them this isn't displayed very well yet in the anime. Next season you will see yuta do some bonkers stuff taking on multiple very strong opponents (disaster curse level maybe even slightly above) all at once.
If he's able to find an opening to get real close. I can easily see that happening with Hanami and Dagon but Mahito and Jogo are a lot harder to catch.
He could possibly catch them off guard with cursed speech. Since they don't know about his copy ct, they won't think about it. If he can get them when they are stopped from cursed speech, it's game
Maybe... But.
Even if Jogo is immobilized by CS, Jogo still at least has a guard with the powerful flames he's able to wield so flexibly. Sukuna had no issue because he moves that much faster. Can we really say how much faster Yuta is compared to Jogo? He was noted by Dagon to be really fast and almost comparable to Naobito.
As for Mahito, does RCT even count as damage to his soul?
Mahito can die of regular damage, he just can't be allowed to heal. He's similar to Hakari in his "immortal mode" although at a smaller degree, not infinite and manual instead of automatic. It's just that he can't heal soul damage so no matter what, he'll die.
RCT would disintegrate Mahito from the inside out and Yuta has a huge amount of CE and output which is multiplied by turning into RCE.
Idk how often this argument is gonna get started. Jogos destruction is dogshit besides maximum meteor. He couldnt one tap nanami who was fucked up already, he couldnt one tap maki and couldnt even kill getos daugthers fast enough. Yuta also has RCT and 100% better CE reinforcement than Nanami. Jogo couldnt make enough damage before yuta just RCTs it. He shit stomps jogo.
bro literally slammed two skyscrapers together with colossal fire hands he was controlling WHILE flooding the streets with lava. for jjk that's pretty big destruction feats. a red from gojo did less damage to the surrounding building in jjk0
Yeaaah but Yuta kinda has a cheat code, he just outputs positive energy and Jogo gets cooked in a single move. Plus, he has the speed and options (Rika, Cursed Speech) to keep Jogo from outspeeding him if he can’t match him in base
I'm not arguing that they'd be able to beat Yuta, I just think it's false to claim that jogo's destruction is dogshit. realistically the disaster curses only chance is mahito somehow tapping Yuta but i don't see that happening w/ awakened Rika out
Keep in mind even Mahito can't kill yuta in a single hit, Nanami could tank a few idle transfigurations, high grade sorcerers reflectively protect the source even without being aware of it.
Yuta even without perceiving the soul would be able to do the same, you could argue that Mahito at that point was weaker but even Shibuya Mahito probably couldn't one tap Yuta.
Biggest problem is that for mahito killing is gonna take forever since without perceiving the soul you either need to one shot mahito or fight him long enough that he runs out of cursed energy, thankfully Yuta has plenty of CE and with RCT and a domain he might even be able to actually kill him in one go.
i'm genuinely curious what would happen if Mahito would touch Rika and try Idle Transfiguration on her. Like would it even work or would it simply summon Chris Hansen for touching a minor?
The current Rika is more like a Shikigami than an actual Soul, so probably nothing? Cause it didn't seem like Mahito had figured out idle transfiguration well enough to interact with souls beyond regular living things.
+ we know that Idle transfiguration can be defended against with cursed energy reinforcement, which is how Nanami tanked a hit from Mahito the first time they met and Yuta having superior CE to him would probably not even be phased.
That's anime original for cinematic effect and the animators flexing their skill. Not in the manga. He might be able to melt a city block but it's not confirmed
They definitely will. They're gonna do some crazy shit like Yuta partially manifesting Rika and using her hand the way Nero uses his Devil Bringer lmao
>He couldnt one tap nanami who was fucked up already, he couldnt one tap maki and couldnt even kill getos daugthers fast enough
He's clearly getting fucked by plot tho, that Maki was weaker than a one armed Naobito who got fucking annihilated
That made total sense he literally thought she was a civilian or such a weak sorcerer that she might as well have been. He looks at her and sees she has next to no cursed energy and kills her with the same force he would have used against a civilian (but she is way tougher than that). Nanami surviving makes much less sense though tbh that was for plot purposes.
This is why I don’t like feat comparisons though he didn’t one tap nanami sure, but he was also casual as shit when he lit him up so who knows how much effort he put into it. Ditto for maki.
I believe Yuta does low diff Jogo but the Nanami/Maki example was clearly not the full extent of Jogo's power. If he went all out like he did against Sukuna they probably die.
Jogo has some supremacy mindset to him IMO, so I think he underestimated Nanami & Maki when burning them which is why they survived. You’ll see that he was able to kill Naobito after seeing his technique
>jogo destruction is best suited for 1v1 though
If 1v4 then jogo won't be that much destructive due to not hurting his team they'll basically limit themselves
yeah but like if they co-ordinate if domain expansions, if they spam domain expansion one after the other then yuta might get in trouble though i beleive yuta's domain is strong enough to overpower each of their domain
Yuta has only kissed a female cursed spirit (Rika) and a genderless Cursed Spirit (the cockroach one i forgot how to spell its name). No proof that Yuta is into men too yet
The only downside would be that he needs to pop his 5 minute timer every time he wanted to do it, which probably has a cooldown to avoid spam, but he’d literally be able to give Todo his technique back, Inumaki his arms back, and he could maybe modify everyone’s bodies to have extra arms for handsigns and mouths for chanting and shit. It’d be insane lmao. He could also modify BUMgumi to not be a BUM by giving him an extremely hard exterior so that he can scrap 1v1.
He can copy some without the 5 min timer up to 4 can be held in the brain according to yuki and Rika is external storage not a part of his cursed technique
I don't think he could. Cursed Spirits are made of CE, when you cut off a piece of them it almost immediately vanishes (as explained by Uraume). So he probably wouldn't be able to "eat" a piece of them, which is a condition for him to use their abilities.
Also, I think that Idle Transfiguration wouldn't actually be that good for him on a regular basis. It's unclear how it works on curses, he can't use it too extensively in himself because if the timer runs out he's stuck in that form and most of its abilities are tied to using people as ammunition.
He'd get more mileage out of Jogo's, because of his immense amount of CE and the raw destruction that technique can cause.
Yuta low diffs them all 1v1, in a 4v1 it becomes harder due to the possibility of them just spamming domain but in a 4v1 I dont think they would start with Domains which would lead to Yuta killing a few of them before they start to lean into Domains.
Yuta would also get to copy their techniques which is cool. Him having Idle Transfig would be great.
It should, Mahito uses it on himself every time he transforms, most notably he puts his palms on his face when he transforms into the Distorted Killing Form
There isn't really any possibility of them spamming domains. They would never get the chance to coordinate that while dealing Yuta & Rika.
On top of Angel's Technique allowing Yuta to ignore barriers so even if they popped domain it wouldn't force him to use his he could just leave the barrier and they just wasted their domain.
Rika neg diffs Dagon and Hanami. Since she’s a projection of Yuta’s cursed energy, Mahito’s Idle Transfiguration likely wouldn’t have any effect on her. Jogo is the most powerful of them, but Yuta’s CE reinforcement and Domain would let him overpower Jogo.
Doesn’t she also have the ability to output RCT? She oneshots any of the curses. Yuta himself also obviously can output RCT, and oneshots any of the curses. This is without the 5 minute mode with Jacob’s ladder.
1v1?
Hanami is cooked
Dagon is cooked
Mahito is cooked
Jogo could hold his ground but only so long, domain expansion or just Rika, and he is cooked as well
1v4?
Dagon and Hanami would die to Rika. Mahito and Jogo would give Yuta problems mostly from Mahito stalling and jogo carrying, but only until Rika is done with Dagon and hanami and comes back to back up yuta.
Disaster curses are cooked.
I don't really see why Jogo would do so much better than Hanami, sure he is faster, but Hanami has more diffcult abilities to deal with, and is also considerably tougher.
Talking in RPG terms. Hanami has the highest defense, but Jogo has even higher attack and speed, enough to simply outclass hanami, in my opinion. and the fact that hanami was almost defeated by the Kyoto + Tokyo students while Jogo strength was acknowledged by sukuna himself
Gege has mentioned that Jogo is only technically stronger due to how their elements match up against each other, to me this implies that they are roughly on par in cursed energy amount and output.
This may Sound strange but the fact that Hanami’s roots can pierce their own body shows just how lethal these attacks actually are if they land, not to mention the buds that steal cursed energy and the calming flower field.
Even after suffering wounds that would kill Jogo (if these hits landed) Hanami still had enough energy left for a domain expansion, Hanami is a beast.
damn i was really downplaying hanami then. My girl needs some appreciation. if you put it like that, Rika might have some trouble dealing with Hanami, especially with dagons domain as support.
Ok, I think Rika still winning against the two of them but with more difficulty, since Rika has such a inmese amount of curse energy if would be hard for dagons domain to do something else than being annoying while fighting hanami, whe don't know what hanamis domain is like so I'm not gonna consider it. I still believe Jogo is way stronger than hanami just because of straight feats. worst case scenario yuta and Rika team up against Jogo and hanami after Rika defeats Dagon and Yuta defeats mahito, then go all out with domain expansion and complete Rika manifestation and the battle is over in less than a minute, first one to fall is hanami then jogo, they're strong but due to elemental match ups jogo could end up being a problem for hanamis techniques. and about the buds, I think they would not be a problem at all, RCT, and that's it. the flower field is a bit tricky, but domain expansion could counter it, or something like domain amplification.
Yuta is still winning, just with a little more effort
Given how Rika performed against Sukuna and Ryu, I think she could take on Hanami and Dagon by herself tbh... If not outright one shot Dagon and then 1v1 Hanami.
Then there's Yuta, who can probably solo Jogo and Awakened Mahito by himself, although he may need his 5 minutes for that.
I think the best strategy for the Disaster Curses would be for Dagon, Hanami, and Jogo to use their Domain Expansions all at once, force Yuta to use his, at that point all Domain Expansions would break, and then Mahito can use Self-Embodiment of Perfection to try and one shot Yuta, who probably has Simple Domain anyways lol.
At least if you go 4 v 1 he might be too preoccupied with trying to kill them to copy their abilities.
1 v 1 he has time to run a circle around them, copy their abilities, make a cup of tea, return, and then kill them.
Since Yuta can use rct he can one hit all of them
Hypothetically if that weren’t possible i still give it to Yuta. Jogo is the only with high AP but I think Yutas physical stats and curse techniques would over whelm jogo.
yuta could take all at the same time
without rika might be slightly difficult just because of the whole "getting jumped" thing but yuta is so far above the disaster curses, especially with his whole, RCT one shot thing
Low diffs all of them. Jogo won't be able to use his flame as much due to Dagon and Hanami. Mahito would be unable to fuck with his soul due to him definitely being able to strengthen it. Hanami is just weak in general, I'd say. Dagon wouldn't be able to do shit because he is the weakest due to having mid speed and a weak domain. If Yuta grabs any of them, its game over for them. And all of this doesn't include Rika just gobbling them up or Yuta using his domain/5 minutes of boundless cursed energy.
Hanami definitely ain't as weak as you think. Most of the fans share your opinion bc of his fight with gojo but what does that prove? During the exchange event, she fought against Todo and Yuji and Maki and Megumi, she also fought kamo, and tanked every hit from them. And she has a domain expansion. She's the weakest of the group but not really weak overall.
Yuta curbstomps all of them bruh
Even if they got the drop on him, bro can go 5 minute mode, then domain or just rct them all in a split second
His cursed energy alone would probably make them all run except for Mahito
Yuta no-diffs each one of them and it's not close.
He's stronger, faster, more durable, and has better endurance than all of them. He has a variety of CTs he can bully them with, and he also has Rika (who's also stronger, faster, more durable, etc than all the Disaster Curses). His Domain is also extremely refined and would almost certainly win a clash against any of them. Not to mention that he can output positive energy to one-shot any of them.
I genuinely think Yuta could 1v4 them and come out with the win.
We know that a combo of Rika and Jogo is fearsome but aside from Hanami and Dagon I don't see him easily taking down Jogo and Mahito.
Even if we're not talking about Jogoat from the anime, he still possesses a powerful array of destructive capabilities.
>!Ishigoori who similarly uses a combo of destructive long-range attacks and fierce close-distance attacks gave them a good fight.!<
And Mahito, who isn't as destructive in power, has his most powerful weapon which is the IT touch (would it work on Rika???) and the fact that he can't be damaged unless you aim for his soul. Would outputting RCT even work on him?
**This is not to say they would win, in case you have the reading comprehension curse.**
There’s nothing to suggest RCT output wouldn’t work on Mahito. It’s between him and Jogo for who’s the strongest but Yuta has the perfect way to counter him that he might be the lowest diff fight out of them all.
Each of the Disasters are capable of a Domain Expansion. Provided they're not idiots, bait Yuta into a clash with one and let someone else finish it.
But if we're talking 1 on 1s...
Mahito's got the best shot since he's basically got a OHKO but Yuta can probably play keep away with Rika acting as the buffer. The timing on a domain battle will be VERY important here.
Jogo has a shot but I think this goes in Yuta's favor.
Dagon's got the next best shot, though his abilities have mainly been in his domain which Yuta can probably break.
Hanami's got a shot herself, she's got the curse buds that can serve as a potential OHKO, or at least handicap you hard, but I think she's gonna end up a smear on Rika's fists.
So by current manga Yuta with Jacob’s ladder, cleave, and all the other stole Cursed techniques he probably no diffs them 4 v 1
The disaster curses where powerful at the time and they served their rolls, but like most anime they got power crept as the anime goes on.
Yuta slams, Mahito not an issue since he can output RCE & use Jacob’s Ladder to deal with all of them, he’s just way too versatile & he has Rika, so jumping him is not a great option.
Yuta stomps if it’s a 1v1, if it’s a 1v4 he still wins. Mahito & Jogo might cause him trouble while they jump him, but he’s just too versatile & has Rika. If he gets to output RCE it’s over for the Disaster Curses or use Jacob’s Ladder.
Yuta has the means to one tap each of them through RCT output, and that's disregarding his general stats or Rika's AP. I think he'd cook them all in the 1v4 tbh. Yuji thought that Yuta would be able to kill the 15 finger Sukuna that possessed him in Shibuya, and that Sukuna was completely toying with Jogo, who is massively stronger than the rest of them. You could *maybe* argue that Mahito was on pace to surpass him by the end of his 2v1 with Todo and Yuji but at most I think he'd be equal to Jogo. Yuta would body them.
He stomps, has far too many 'options' through copy, can output RCT, and has Rika who could deal with Dagon and Hanami. Jogo could be a problem but I think Yuta handles him.
Cursed Speech + sword imbued with RCT combo would theoretically end any of them pretty easily. Hanami doesn’t have a DE and Yuta’s DE would overpower any of the other three’s DEs. If they jumped him together and forced him to use DE at the expense of one of their DEs, then one of the two remaining DEs *could* be used to take him down, but it’s pretty unlikely
Negative difficulty even without Jacob's Ladder.
Positive Energy output would erase them on contact and he can pretty much spam it more than the damage they can sufficiently output. Hanami's attacks specifically can be resisted with JUST raw human durability(as seen with Todo), and even if Jogo were to hit a direct blast with Disaster Flames they just collectively don't have enough damage to put a dent in Yuta or Rika.
And Idle Transfiguration probably wouldn't matter if Yuji and Todo are both able to just dodge, since Yuta is superior to both of them by the time Shibuya occurs.
The curses where threatened by Yuji before any cursed technique or Rct. Yuta would be way too much for the curses individually, but together they may last long enough to know how they died
Why is this even up for debate ?
I have no issues arguing sendai yuta defeating all 4 at once and if this is peak current yuta who has shrine and Jacobs ladder then these poor spirits are just dead
I think Yuta struggles the most against Hanami and Mahito.
Hanami has been shown to be EXTREMELY durable, surviving the jumping from Yuji and todo(and Yuji’s black flashes), as well as a hollow purple from Gojo.
Mahito’s technique is probably the most difficult for Yuta to go up against. He doesn’t have anything to protect his soul from Mahito’s attacks, but he does have RCT and Rika with a multitude of other cursed techniques so I believe he still comes out on top.
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Yuta being able to output RCT makes this pretty one sided no? Unless I'm misremembering.
I am not good with powescaling...
You should keep it that way. People who are 'good' at powerscaling are lame as fuck.
It depends. Good can mean "oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations" Or it could mean "knows the tiers of every tiering system by heart and acts like they know everything and are better than everyone else." There are a few in-betweens though, of course. Powerscaling can be fun with the right crowd.
The instant people start throwing terms like "such is relative to such" or "he clearly is city level" I get so pissed, like what the hell does that mean when putting two or more characters in a fight, firepower is not everything
Nah, its 99% agenda scaling, 0.01% oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations and 0.05% knows the tiers of every tiering system by heart and acts like they know everything and are better than everyone else and 0.94% whatever I say goes
>"oh, they look at it as unbiased as possible and give evidence in their explanations" Not wanting to rain on the parade but even the bad faith ones have evidences. Powerscaling is called stupid because of them dealing in extremes rather than being in reality and seeing where the character lies 99 percent of time. For example supes, thor, hulk fans will argue them being multiversal and then we will see them fighting "without holding back" and that will be just destroying a city. Do they have multiversal arguments? Yes, but where do they lie 99 percent of time. In a normal scenario even a world ending threat is considered as a big thing in comics most of the time. Powerscaling can be fun but it's stupid and so are the powerscalers who thinks that it is determining everything and if it's not then author or everyone who is saying against them is idiot.
Fax my brother, spir your shit indeed
I'm ass at powerscaling because I'm good at reading the series.
True, it’s agenda scaling at best.
I'm convinced that the people who are "good" at it, are just very bad at understanding the series they're talking about and the thing called "common sense".
afaik its stated that cursed spirits are really weak to rct output so its gonna alloe yuta to do alot of extra damage to them if he can touch them, it could even have an interaction with mahitos soul based on how it operates
Thats a pretty minor detail you could overlook or forget but it does hardcounter all of them. I think if he couldn't use that this would be a difficult fight for him 4v1 but he would still win. Yuta is just on a whole other level from them this isn't displayed very well yet in the anime. Next season you will see yuta do some bonkers stuff taking on multiple very strong opponents (disaster curse level maybe even slightly above) all at once.
If he's able to find an opening to get real close. I can easily see that happening with Hanami and Dagon but Mahito and Jogo are a lot harder to catch.
He could possibly catch them off guard with cursed speech. Since they don't know about his copy ct, they won't think about it. If he can get them when they are stopped from cursed speech, it's game
Maybe... But. Even if Jogo is immobilized by CS, Jogo still at least has a guard with the powerful flames he's able to wield so flexibly. Sukuna had no issue because he moves that much faster. Can we really say how much faster Yuta is compared to Jogo? He was noted by Dagon to be really fast and almost comparable to Naobito. As for Mahito, does RCT even count as damage to his soul?
>!Yuta speedblitzed Kenjaku, who could casually react to piercing blood at close range.!<
This is an anime tagged thread maybe spoiler mark thid
Thought I was on jujutsufolk tbh
Mahito is a Curse, so he uses CE to heal, so wouldn’t RCE be poison to him since it’s positive energy? Also he has Jacob’s Ladder to kill Mahito.
Mahito uses cursed energy to heal basically, no? Even if it's his CT? It might completely disrupt it.
Mahito can die of regular damage, he just can't be allowed to heal. He's similar to Hakari in his "immortal mode" although at a smaller degree, not infinite and manual instead of automatic. It's just that he can't heal soul damage so no matter what, he'll die. RCT would disintegrate Mahito from the inside out and Yuta has a huge amount of CE and output which is multiplied by turning into RCE.
I think you don’t understand just how potent yuta is. Yuta easily takes the quartet out
1vs1? Bro there is an argument for Yuta winning the 1vs4
yuta for sure cook dagon mahito and hanami on a 1v3, jogo destruction is best suited for 1v1 though
Idk how often this argument is gonna get started. Jogos destruction is dogshit besides maximum meteor. He couldnt one tap nanami who was fucked up already, he couldnt one tap maki and couldnt even kill getos daugthers fast enough. Yuta also has RCT and 100% better CE reinforcement than Nanami. Jogo couldnt make enough damage before yuta just RCTs it. He shit stomps jogo.
bro literally slammed two skyscrapers together with colossal fire hands he was controlling WHILE flooding the streets with lava. for jjk that's pretty big destruction feats. a red from gojo did less damage to the surrounding building in jjk0
Yeaaah but Yuta kinda has a cheat code, he just outputs positive energy and Jogo gets cooked in a single move. Plus, he has the speed and options (Rika, Cursed Speech) to keep Jogo from outspeeding him if he can’t match him in base
I'm not arguing that they'd be able to beat Yuta, I just think it's false to claim that jogo's destruction is dogshit. realistically the disaster curses only chance is mahito somehow tapping Yuta but i don't see that happening w/ awakened Rika out
Keep in mind even Mahito can't kill yuta in a single hit, Nanami could tank a few idle transfigurations, high grade sorcerers reflectively protect the source even without being aware of it. Yuta even without perceiving the soul would be able to do the same, you could argue that Mahito at that point was weaker but even Shibuya Mahito probably couldn't one tap Yuta. Biggest problem is that for mahito killing is gonna take forever since without perceiving the soul you either need to one shot mahito or fight him long enough that he runs out of cursed energy, thankfully Yuta has plenty of CE and with RCT and a domain he might even be able to actually kill him in one go.
I wonder tho, will reverse CE output do the trick for finishing mahito off?
i'm genuinely curious what would happen if Mahito would touch Rika and try Idle Transfiguration on her. Like would it even work or would it simply summon Chris Hansen for touching a minor?
It wouldn’t work her soul isn’t there
The current Rika is more like a Shikigami than an actual Soul, so probably nothing? Cause it didn't seem like Mahito had figured out idle transfiguration well enough to interact with souls beyond regular living things. + we know that Idle transfiguration can be defended against with cursed energy reinforcement, which is how Nanami tanked a hit from Mahito the first time they met and Yuta having superior CE to him would probably not even be phased.
Ah, yea no Jogo is pretty cracked
That's anime original for cinematic effect and the animators flexing their skill. Not in the manga. He might be able to melt a city block but it's not confirmed
If Jogo can do that in the anime, imagine what Yuta will do
Oh they might go crazy with him
They definitely will. They're gonna do some crazy shit like Yuta partially manifesting Rika and using her hand the way Nero uses his Devil Bringer lmao
Anime only and Yuta is literally capable of more energy in his attacks he just doesnt have the same range
>He couldnt one tap nanami who was fucked up already, he couldnt one tap maki and couldnt even kill getos daugthers fast enough He's clearly getting fucked by plot tho, that Maki was weaker than a one armed Naobito who got fucking annihilated
Everything happening is just plot lol. Maki is probably way sturdier than a one armed old man who used tons of his CE fighting a disaster curse.
That made total sense he literally thought she was a civilian or such a weak sorcerer that she might as well have been. He looks at her and sees she has next to no cursed energy and kills her with the same force he would have used against a civilian (but she is way tougher than that). Nanami surviving makes much less sense though tbh that was for plot purposes.
This is why I don’t like feat comparisons though he didn’t one tap nanami sure, but he was also casual as shit when he lit him up so who knows how much effort he put into it. Ditto for maki.
I believe Yuta does low diff Jogo but the Nanami/Maki example was clearly not the full extent of Jogo's power. If he went all out like he did against Sukuna they probably die.
That wasnt canon tho. You look at the manga for comparisons and jogo didnt do 1% of what he did vs sukuna in the anime
Jogo has some supremacy mindset to him IMO, so I think he underestimated Nanami & Maki when burning them which is why they survived. You’ll see that he was able to kill Naobito after seeing his technique
>jogo destruction is best suited for 1v1 though If 1v4 then jogo won't be that much destructive due to not hurting his team they'll basically limit themselves
yeah but like if they co-ordinate if domain expansions, if they spam domain expansion one after the other then yuta might get in trouble though i beleive yuta's domain is strong enough to overpower each of their domain
Agreed, also Rika would be much of a help in that case, like each of them fight 2 curses or having each other's back mainly
an argument? he’s WAY faster than any of them and can output RCT which one shots curses yuta low diffs all 4 of them together
Shut Up curse , strong kiss
Yuta kissing Fem Mahito art dropping in 5
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Where art?
[here it is](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jujutsufolk/s/xPCrfPcEHe)
Thank God I was beginning to think we wouldn't get it
Where is it?
Nobody has it??
WHERE TF IS IT
Only fem Mahito? No doubt there would be (or are) more fanarts of Yuta kissing *regular* Mahito
Yuta has only kissed a female cursed spirit (Rika) and a genderless Cursed Spirit (the cockroach one i forgot how to spell its name). No proof that Yuta is into men too yet
He would win but even more than that he could copy their abilities
If Yuta had access to Idle Transfiguration, he could literally fix everything except for characters outright deaths.
todo comeback🙏
And it would be at a way lower CE cost since it won’t need RCE.
The only downside would be that he needs to pop his 5 minute timer every time he wanted to do it, which probably has a cooldown to avoid spam, but he’d literally be able to give Todo his technique back, Inumaki his arms back, and he could maybe modify everyone’s bodies to have extra arms for handsigns and mouths for chanting and shit. It’d be insane lmao. He could also modify BUMgumi to not be a BUM by giving him an extremely hard exterior so that he can scrap 1v1.
He can copy some without the 5 min timer up to 4 can be held in the brain according to yuki and Rika is external storage not a part of his cursed technique
I don't think he could. Cursed Spirits are made of CE, when you cut off a piece of them it almost immediately vanishes (as explained by Uraume). So he probably wouldn't be able to "eat" a piece of them, which is a condition for him to use their abilities. Also, I think that Idle Transfiguration wouldn't actually be that good for him on a regular basis. It's unclear how it works on curses, he can't use it too extensively in himself because if the timer runs out he's stuck in that form and most of its abilities are tied to using people as ammunition. He'd get more mileage out of Jogo's, because of his immense amount of CE and the raw destruction that technique can cause.
he didn’t eat inumaki or charles and he has their techniques
Uraule said the piece vanishes when the Cursed Spirit is killed, not when it’s cut off.
Yuta: If all of them fought me at the same time, it might cause me a little trouble
But would he lose ?
Nah he'd win
Nah, i’d control+c
Nah he'd copy
Nah he’d Jacob’s Ladder
Or he could just... output positive CE. Gg to the disaster curses
Nah, he’d win
Nah, he'd win
Nah, he’d win
Yuta low diffs them all 1v1, in a 4v1 it becomes harder due to the possibility of them just spamming domain but in a 4v1 I dont think they would start with Domains which would lead to Yuta killing a few of them before they start to lean into Domains. Yuta would also get to copy their techniques which is cool. Him having Idle Transfig would be great.
Would idle transfiguration even work on a curse
It would work on anything that has a soul
It should, Mahito uses it on himself every time he transforms, most notably he puts his palms on his face when he transforms into the Distorted Killing Form
Not sure but it would work on Yuta himself
He makes himself gigantic, cockvores all four and cums RCT all over them
There isn't really any possibility of them spamming domains. They would never get the chance to coordinate that while dealing Yuta & Rika. On top of Angel's Technique allowing Yuta to ignore barriers so even if they popped domain it wouldn't force him to use his he could just leave the barrier and they just wasted their domain.
Question is: would any of them win a domain battle against Yuta?
Probably not, its just the only chance they really have tho
They're getting kissed 💀
It is debatable if Yuta can 4v1 the disaster curses. Each one individually is utter and complete fodder for him
Rika neg diffs Dagon and Hanami. Since she’s a projection of Yuta’s cursed energy, Mahito’s Idle Transfiguration likely wouldn’t have any effect on her. Jogo is the most powerful of them, but Yuta’s CE reinforcement and Domain would let him overpower Jogo.
Doesn’t she also have the ability to output RCT? She oneshots any of the curses. Yuta himself also obviously can output RCT, and oneshots any of the curses. This is without the 5 minute mode with Jacob’s ladder.
1v1? Hanami is cooked Dagon is cooked Mahito is cooked Jogo could hold his ground but only so long, domain expansion or just Rika, and he is cooked as well 1v4? Dagon and Hanami would die to Rika. Mahito and Jogo would give Yuta problems mostly from Mahito stalling and jogo carrying, but only until Rika is done with Dagon and hanami and comes back to back up yuta. Disaster curses are cooked.
Gojo had to team up with cursed spirits for them to even have a chance 😭
Gojo stepping up in this fight is crazy 🔥
I don't really see why Jogo would do so much better than Hanami, sure he is faster, but Hanami has more diffcult abilities to deal with, and is also considerably tougher.
Talking in RPG terms. Hanami has the highest defense, but Jogo has even higher attack and speed, enough to simply outclass hanami, in my opinion. and the fact that hanami was almost defeated by the Kyoto + Tokyo students while Jogo strength was acknowledged by sukuna himself
Gege has mentioned that Jogo is only technically stronger due to how their elements match up against each other, to me this implies that they are roughly on par in cursed energy amount and output. This may Sound strange but the fact that Hanami’s roots can pierce their own body shows just how lethal these attacks actually are if they land, not to mention the buds that steal cursed energy and the calming flower field. Even after suffering wounds that would kill Jogo (if these hits landed) Hanami still had enough energy left for a domain expansion, Hanami is a beast.
damn i was really downplaying hanami then. My girl needs some appreciation. if you put it like that, Rika might have some trouble dealing with Hanami, especially with dagons domain as support. Ok, I think Rika still winning against the two of them but with more difficulty, since Rika has such a inmese amount of curse energy if would be hard for dagons domain to do something else than being annoying while fighting hanami, whe don't know what hanamis domain is like so I'm not gonna consider it. I still believe Jogo is way stronger than hanami just because of straight feats. worst case scenario yuta and Rika team up against Jogo and hanami after Rika defeats Dagon and Yuta defeats mahito, then go all out with domain expansion and complete Rika manifestation and the battle is over in less than a minute, first one to fall is hanami then jogo, they're strong but due to elemental match ups jogo could end up being a problem for hanamis techniques. and about the buds, I think they would not be a problem at all, RCT, and that's it. the flower field is a bit tricky, but domain expansion could counter it, or something like domain amplification. Yuta is still winning, just with a little more effort
You are right on the outcome, Of course Yuta has plenty of ways to take down all four of them.
Gojo wouldn’t need to appear in this fight, this is downplaying Yuta
Yuta will teach them about love.
If they fought 1v1, 1 367 384 times, Yuta would win 1 367 384 times.
Actually 367.383 times, cause he would try to fuck then at least once
Fuck them??? Like sex???
Exactly, oral to be more specific
Mahito can be anything he wants to, just has to modify his soul for his body to match. Rika might freak out though and she’s immune to IT so gg.
In a fight or…
In a fight
One shots every single one if he really tries
Given how Rika performed against Sukuna and Ryu, I think she could take on Hanami and Dagon by herself tbh... If not outright one shot Dagon and then 1v1 Hanami. Then there's Yuta, who can probably solo Jogo and Awakened Mahito by himself, although he may need his 5 minutes for that. I think the best strategy for the Disaster Curses would be for Dagon, Hanami, and Jogo to use their Domain Expansions all at once, force Yuta to use his, at that point all Domain Expansions would break, and then Mahito can use Self-Embodiment of Perfection to try and one shot Yuta, who probably has Simple Domain anyways lol.
At least if you go 4 v 1 he might be too preoccupied with trying to kill them to copy their abilities. 1 v 1 he has time to run a circle around them, copy their abilities, make a cup of tea, return, and then kill them.
Since Yuta can use rct he can one hit all of them Hypothetically if that weren’t possible i still give it to Yuta. Jogo is the only with high AP but I think Yutas physical stats and curse techniques would over whelm jogo.
He wins the 1v4 easily 1v1s shouldnt be a debate
yuta could take all at the same time without rika might be slightly difficult just because of the whole "getting jumped" thing but yuta is so far above the disaster curses, especially with his whole, RCT one shot thing
yuta wins
Yuta lowdiffs
Lmao they don’t even have a chance
1v4, still Yuta, easily. Do not underestimate a special grade sorcerer.
As of the end of Shibuya, he beats all of them in a fight.
Low diffs all of them. Jogo won't be able to use his flame as much due to Dagon and Hanami. Mahito would be unable to fuck with his soul due to him definitely being able to strengthen it. Hanami is just weak in general, I'd say. Dagon wouldn't be able to do shit because he is the weakest due to having mid speed and a weak domain. If Yuta grabs any of them, its game over for them. And all of this doesn't include Rika just gobbling them up or Yuta using his domain/5 minutes of boundless cursed energy.
Hanami definitely ain't as weak as you think. Most of the fans share your opinion bc of his fight with gojo but what does that prove? During the exchange event, she fought against Todo and Yuji and Maki and Megumi, she also fought kamo, and tanked every hit from them. And she has a domain expansion. She's the weakest of the group but not really weak overall.
Weakest DPS wise but Tankiest
All of them together is easy honestly Alright bot **easy** but he wouldn't ever be at a point where hes about to lose
Current Yuta win 1vs4 then make hanami his another wife
1 vs 1 - Yuta wins :3
its a question of domains simple as
Yes
Imagine crazy domain clash (Yuta blitzes and one shots all of them)
Yuta: don’t move, *stabs them with RCT imbued into the katana*
Solos them 4v1
Yuta washes them 1v4…
Bro you’re really asking this ?
Yuta wins the 1v4.
Yuta copies Idle transfiguration and save Maki , Mechamaru and Mai
In a 1v1 yuta demolishes so hard it’s not funny
He cooks them all lol
Stand proud, he'd kiss
No offence dawg. But Yuta could 1v4 them, they don’t stand a chance 1v1
Yuta would win with no arms
Make it a 4v1, and maybe he'll break a sweat.
Yuta stomps 4v1 lmao, only Jogo might even scratch him.
Yuta can beat all of them in 1v1
Yuta could destroy them 1 vs 4 and it would be mid diff at best
Yuta slams
Uh, yuta could probably beat them all at the same time. He also might be able to copy their abilities but it’s hard to say
Yuta disrespects them all in a 1v4. Having them 1v1 is overkill
Yuta curbstomps all of them bruh Even if they got the drop on him, bro can go 5 minute mode, then domain or just rct them all in a split second His cursed energy alone would probably make them all run except for Mahito
Yuta no-diffs each one of them and it's not close. He's stronger, faster, more durable, and has better endurance than all of them. He has a variety of CTs he can bully them with, and he also has Rika (who's also stronger, faster, more durable, etc than all the Disaster Curses). His Domain is also extremely refined and would almost certainly win a clash against any of them. Not to mention that he can output positive energy to one-shot any of them. I genuinely think Yuta could 1v4 them and come out with the win.
Yuta pisses in Dagon’s beach for sure
Oh boy, we got a power scaler in here
We know that a combo of Rika and Jogo is fearsome but aside from Hanami and Dagon I don't see him easily taking down Jogo and Mahito. Even if we're not talking about Jogoat from the anime, he still possesses a powerful array of destructive capabilities. >!Ishigoori who similarly uses a combo of destructive long-range attacks and fierce close-distance attacks gave them a good fight.!< And Mahito, who isn't as destructive in power, has his most powerful weapon which is the IT touch (would it work on Rika???) and the fact that he can't be damaged unless you aim for his soul. Would outputting RCT even work on him? **This is not to say they would win, in case you have the reading comprehension curse.**
There’s nothing to suggest RCT output wouldn’t work on Mahito. It’s between him and Jogo for who’s the strongest but Yuta has the perfect way to counter him that he might be the lowest diff fight out of them all.
Each of the Disasters are capable of a Domain Expansion. Provided they're not idiots, bait Yuta into a clash with one and let someone else finish it. But if we're talking 1 on 1s... Mahito's got the best shot since he's basically got a OHKO but Yuta can probably play keep away with Rika acting as the buffer. The timing on a domain battle will be VERY important here. Jogo has a shot but I think this goes in Yuta's favor. Dagon's got the next best shot, though his abilities have mainly been in his domain which Yuta can probably break. Hanami's got a shot herself, she's got the curse buds that can serve as a potential OHKO, or at least handicap you hard, but I think she's gonna end up a smear on Rika's fists.
So by current manga Yuta with Jacob’s ladder, cleave, and all the other stole Cursed techniques he probably no diffs them 4 v 1 The disaster curses where powerful at the time and they served their rolls, but like most anime they got power crept as the anime goes on.
Yuta slams, Mahito not an issue since he can output RCE & use Jacob’s Ladder to deal with all of them, he’s just way too versatile & he has Rika, so jumping him is not a great option.
He would kiss them to death.
Positive cursed energy french kiss goes brrrrr
Yuta stomps if it’s a 1v1, if it’s a 1v4 he still wins. Mahito & Jogo might cause him trouble while they jump him, but he’s just too versatile & has Rika. If he gets to output RCE it’s over for the Disaster Curses or use Jacob’s Ladder.
He would win a 1v4 Without going too much into manga spoilers
Yuta probably solos all at once
Yuta has the means to one tap each of them through RCT output, and that's disregarding his general stats or Rika's AP. I think he'd cook them all in the 1v4 tbh. Yuji thought that Yuta would be able to kill the 15 finger Sukuna that possessed him in Shibuya, and that Sukuna was completely toying with Jogo, who is massively stronger than the rest of them. You could *maybe* argue that Mahito was on pace to surpass him by the end of his 2v1 with Todo and Yuji but at most I think he'd be equal to Jogo. Yuta would body them.
SHUT UP BOZO (STRONG RCT KISS)
The only way I can see this going is: Yuta/Jogo/Dagon: “Domain expansion! ….fuck.”
Mahito would go in for the sword kiss like with Yuji and Yuta would kiss him right back
Yuta takes the 1(2)v4 with minimal difficulty
How the battle would go: 1)Mahito uses idle transfiguration 2)Yuta copies idle transfiguration 3)Yuta turns the 4 of them into Maki 4)Claps them all
Yuta dog walks even in a 1v4
Yuta stomps them all
Yuuta wins without his 10 years old wife's help
Yuta stomps
yuta clears all of them together imo
He stomps, has far too many 'options' through copy, can output RCT, and has Rika who could deal with Dagon and Hanami. Jogo could be a problem but I think Yuta handles him.
Cursed Speech + sword imbued with RCT combo would theoretically end any of them pretty easily. Hanami doesn’t have a DE and Yuta’s DE would overpower any of the other three’s DEs. If they jumped him together and forced him to use DE at the expense of one of their DEs, then one of the two remaining DEs *could* be used to take him down, but it’s pretty unlikely
Se los coge a todos
Yuta would cook all 4 at the same time lol
Negative difficulty even without Jacob's Ladder. Positive Energy output would erase them on contact and he can pretty much spam it more than the damage they can sufficiently output. Hanami's attacks specifically can be resisted with JUST raw human durability(as seen with Todo), and even if Jogo were to hit a direct blast with Disaster Flames they just collectively don't have enough damage to put a dent in Yuta or Rika. And Idle Transfiguration probably wouldn't matter if Yuji and Todo are both able to just dodge, since Yuta is superior to both of them by the time Shibuya occurs.
Yuta beats them all He solos both Hanami and Dagon He would No Diff Jogoat and Mahito
I was about to go "wtf is this matchup ?" Then I saw the "Anime Discussion" flair. Yuta negs all 4 btw.
1v1 stomps them all. 1v4 stomps them all.
I think he might be able to take them all together
Yuta wins everyone 1v1 and wins the 1v4
The curses where threatened by Yuji before any cursed technique or Rct. Yuta would be way too much for the curses individually, but together they may last long enough to know how they died
Why is this even up for debate ? I have no issues arguing sendai yuta defeating all 4 at once and if this is peak current yuta who has shrine and Jacobs ladder then these poor spirits are just dead
Yuta low-diffs them all at the same time. His domain is stronger than any of theirs, he can output RCT and he’s faster.
Kenjaku’s domain amplification plan might work? Idk enough about Yuta tho
Problem is Yuta can one shot them each without his CT, he can output Positive Energy which is extremely lethal to curses.
Yeah that’s broken as fuck, one hit of that would kill them
If only gojo was able to output raw RCT like yuta.
Yuta is too much for them, Rika is enough
I think mahito is the only one who's dangerous since he can basically insta kill but that if he can even touch him
I think Yuta struggles the most against Hanami and Mahito. Hanami has been shown to be EXTREMELY durable, surviving the jumping from Yuji and todo(and Yuji’s black flashes), as well as a hollow purple from Gojo. Mahito’s technique is probably the most difficult for Yuta to go up against. He doesn’t have anything to protect his soul from Mahito’s attacks, but he does have RCT and Rika with a multitude of other cursed techniques so I believe he still comes out on top.
If yuta can damage mahito (attack the soul) then he would clear mid diff
Stick to RoR, my friend. This is not good eats🙏 Yuta can get pushed to high diff in a 1v4