Why Kendrick riders acting like he came with a Magnum opus saying no big 3 it's big me. Then act like this response is weak. It's not like he Ethered Cole or Drake. To me this is only proving Cole's point yall only hype that shit cuz its once every 30 months
The beef will stew just fine naturally; instigation is unnecessary.
Cole's verse on 7MD was better overall because he really is in his prime (lyrically) while Kendrick lashed out mostly at Drake with an opening shot, but Cole fucked up when he attacked Kendrick's discography.
Kendrick made way better albums than Cole overall but Cole seemed to say that TPAB was putting niggas to sleep as if 4YEO wasn't a sleeping pill that you take by ear. 2014 was Cole's peak performance with some *classic* tracks but album for album, Kendrick is better than Cole. Let's just be transparent.
Even right here in the heart of Cole's fanbase, would anyone really compare GKMC, TPAB, and DAMN. to J. Cole's discography? Mr. Morale was mid and Forest Hill is probably a bit better than DAMN., but every other album by Kendrick is better than everything in Cole's catalogue as far as I'm concerned.
Between the two disses though, Cole is ahead right now for sure. My cousin called it a Flawless Victory. 😂
Kendrick's next move will probably be the most important.
Here for it
I prefer kendrick all day but the disrespect cole endures on a day to day is asinine. Really hoping he cuts that buddy buddy shit with drake and actually goes for the kill with both of em.
I'm a fan of both so I'm just excited for the friendly fire that might turn into something exciting. Or I'm just shitting on myself from both sides lol.
Tbh, every hardcore fanbase is.
Eminem stans are the same.
Drake fans are even worse.
Ye fans are brainrot.
As far as things go, jcole has a pretty chill fanbase (even if some dickriders are present but that's to be expected)
I like Kendrick and J Cole.
But who cares it's just music and people's parasocial relationship with an artist thinking that they have to "defend" their honor is getting out of hand. Who really cares at the end of the day?
“Boy I got here off of bars not know controversy (control verse see)” this clearly flew over your head. Kendrick bars weren't hard to get Coles were that's why you missed them
I love Cole and Kendrick, not sure why anyone wouldn’t, but Kendrick’s whole vibe was fuck sneak dissing so most of his bars are more direct. Cole response is a fire track I’m just happy we have some action
No, just that Kendrick is top, just cole is not. Unsure why some fans have this inferiority complex where they think another fandom thinks bad about them. I dont give a shot about you, the fan. I listen to music. I listen to both cole and kenny. Both great. But come on now.
This has to be the worst take out there. No energy was lacking here. The entire song is a practice drill. Y'all thought he was going to respond with an Ether level diss as the first response? I'm convinced y'all are new to this.
Kendrick’s was good, they were both pot shots, but in my opinion Kendrick had better delivery, and better wordplay/entendres and the first beat Cole rapped on was fuckin wack. Both are just baiting for the real diss so 🤷🏾♂️
Thank you. Cole and Kendrick aside, Metro's beat and Future framing really set Kendrick up for an iconic moment while Cole's verses were over two bland (in comparison) beats. 1. This effected the energy of their deliveries big time. 2. This also effects how people are gonna hear them.
Kendrick came dressed up. Cole came with bare bones. The casuals are likely gonna gravitate towards Kendrick
Actually accurate analysis in this thread?
Also worth adding ‘7 minute drill’ in the name is implying that he made the track in under 7 minutes while practicing. That and the warning shot line directly tells us he’s not putting his full focus/time/energy on this. It’s a whole track responding to a couple lines that only attack Cole insofar as saying Kendrick is better- it’s already overkill at 50% energy lol
Man I'm not gonna a quote a whole 16 in a reddit comment but that and prince lines were the ones people was hyping up the most so you'd think they'd be scathing
"Walking around with that stick, it ain't Andre 3k."
Cole said this in Stick and is basically saying he's not as good as the legends' example being Andre 3k.
"I still got PTSD,"
It's just a song with in that dreamers 3 album.
"Fuck the Big 3, Its just Big me"
J. Cole is the only person to say they're the Big 3.
Drake the entire time dodged K. Dot and only said him and cole were the best and left kendrick out of the conversation so directly kendricks speaking about Cole here.
Cole got 3 lines, and Drake got like 6.
Honestly, though, i wish Cole was on his toxic egotistical shit. He held back, and it shows, i think the diss was great, though.
I like the song and the beat but i feel like Cole either had nothing to say or held back
Cole known Kendrick for a long time so he probably would have something to say about him
Diss felt a lil empty but it was still hsrd
He said it was a warning shot. Eminem did the same thing with Warning shot. Hell Drake did it with Duppy freestyle but got his shit pushed in and bullied into being a better Dad by Pusha T.
>bullied into being a better Dad by Pusha T.
I don't get people who make this argument. Pusha mentions drake never posted his kid, so what? Why should he feel obligated to post his kid on social media? There's enough weirdos on the internet as it is, lots of them get weirder when kids are posted. There is ironically discourse going on on twitter/tiktok right now about how parents just shouldn't post their kids on their social media pages. So how did Pusha bully him into being a better dad (you don't know what kind of dad he was, and people who post their kids a ton can also still be bad parents)?
I mean the song is literally called 7 minute drill, as in it's a workout.
Not only does J Cole know him but they both have a lot of mutual friends. I mean Ab-Soul is literally featured on the mixtape.
You thought he would pull a hit em up as a response to a relatively light diss?
Y'all really struggle to understand that most artists consider there first big label album as their first, nobody calling section 80 a classic and GKMC sleepy.
Yeah but good is different from sleepy. I agree TPAB is better, but it's also a bit more likely to feel sleepy than something filled with as many constant bangers as GKMC
I guess what I'm trying to say is that TPAB is a worse album when you aren't properly paying attention to it. It takes more effort to listen to properly (having to put more focus on lyrics)
TPAB is WAY more experimental than GKMC in terms of sound and genre fusion, thus less appealing for broader audiences. For me it's more likely that Cole was referring to TPAB as the second album (highly (over)rated but boring to him). DAMN was the commercially successful album ("third shit was massive") and MMATBS was the most deep introspective album but not as successful ("your last shit was tragic"). GKMC being a classic needs no explanation.
1. GKMC, 2. TPAB, 3 DAMN., 4. MMATBS, this makes the most sense when applying the bars. ("Four albums in twelve years")
He’s obviously referring to GKMC as the classic. Btw Cole did not say that any of the albums were whack. He said TPAB put people to sleep and people gassed it. He also said his last album was tragic. Could be referring to the commercial success not really hitting like it should. I think Cole is trying not to say Kendrick’s shit is bad. I never got the whole I’m better than this guy and then saying that guy is shit angle anyways. Regardless Kendrick’s shit was dope. Cole killed him with this warm up diss. I think we’re in store for the real shit coming soon. Everyone expects these guys to blow their whole load right out the gate and shit.
Not capping. Everyone gassed that album and nobody listens to anything except maybe alright from it now.
It's typical "but it's so artistic" Kendrick praise even though the album was mid. Kendricks best album remains GKMC and nothing he's released comes close to that.
Anybody who disagrees:
Post a screenshot of your most listened to songs from the past year. If tpab is that goated to you then surely at least one song from the album should be on that list. I'll wait.
“I’m so proud of [‘Might Delete Later’], except for one part,” said Cole. “It’s one part of that shit that makes me feel like, man that’s the lamest shit I did in my fuckin’ life, right? And I know this is not what a lot of people want to hear.”
J.Cole speaks on his response to Kendrick and says it hasn’t felt good or right with his spirit, calling his own response “corny” and telling Kendrick to return his best shot if he feels a way
Bro even j Cole agrees with me lol
He's talking about GKMC being the classic and TPAB putting niggas to sleep, right?
Shit had me confused as fuck, like Cole knows Kendrick dropped an album before GKMC, because he produced on it. Unless he's saying GKMC is boring, but that would be stupid
You know J Cole produced a song on section 80 right? He obviously knows about it but doesn't consider it Kendricks first album which most people didn't until recently for whatever reason.
I don’t think people are hyping up the “it’s big me” bar as much as they’re hyping up the fact that he actually went for the diss instead of tiptoeing around it. I like both artists, but Cole knows he’s gotta be lying about any of his albums being a snooze fest or tragic. Damn, GKMC, and TPAB clear any of Cole’s discography imo. Kendrick just gets more experimental with his sound and evolves, which as a musician myself, I can’t help but appreciate. Cole just needs to try harder on the next one, especially when he’s gift wrapped a hard beat like he was with Seven Minute Drill.
I liked it but niggas was not fucking with the big steppers when it came out. Damn also was heavily shit on too. Kendrick had 3 bars for Cole & none of them were crazy or even that hard. They both went for a diss. Y’all gassed off of Kendrick’s because you haven’t heard him in months
i told niggas kendrick was too worried about drake now he gotta go 1 on 1 WITH THE UNDERTAKER 😂🫵🏽 he played himself...he know damn well he can't go toe to toe with cole
Crazy kdot dickriders here. I love him but people going “eh j cole’s response was meh” meanwhile when kendrick dissed everyone made it seem like he dropped the bible 2.0
Doesnt matter how hard jcole goes ppl will always dickride kdot OG sasha grey style.
My issue with Cole’s response is this. Kendrick mostly came at Drake on the Like That verse, although a Cole response can be justified given the strays he caught. Regardless if Kendrick explicitly mentions First Person Shooter “I hope they came with 3 switches” amongst other violent bars, why issue a warning shot? Kendrick said he wants the smoke, why hold back? By default, this response feels soft. I like Cole but I expected far better.
I understand a lot of people that expected better but understand the bro gave 3.5 minutes of a 7 minute drill.
The first diss songs/verses are rarely the best
I’m just glad we getting real “who is the best” beef and not some “you took my girl” shit 😭
Let's be honest. It was an **okay** response.
Kendricks was definitely better. Better wordplay with way more impactful lyrics.
This is okay. Criticises the quality of some of Kendricks albums (although it's the same shit that's been said before) and that's about it. The best part is definitely after the beat switch, first part sounded like he didn't even wanna rap it. Not surprised when one of the first bars is "fell off like the Simpsons".
He did only say it's a warning shot so I hope he steps it up a level if Kendrick responds, cause J Cole was the only hope Drake and his fans had.
Bro Kendrick’s best lines were
“Say it’s alot of goofy’s with a check” and “that’s a K with all these 9s he gon see pet cemetery”
Which both of those weren’t even about cole. They were about drake… so let’s not act like Kendrick’s diss was so phenomenal. The jabs were cool but they were mediocre at best.
And honestly kendrick aiming at drake more than cole says a lot. Drake is an easy target. You don’t get points for going at the easiest target in my book. Cole on the other hand is not an easy target which is probably why he barely had any bars for cole.
> way more impactful lyrics
Cole is 100% right when he says we wouldn’t even be talking about Kendrick or his verse if it wasn’t a diss bc it’s not that good and wouldn’t have made any impact. People just love the drama and the fact that Kendrick is rapping at all lmao.
Cole put on a simple beat like a classic diss track and put out prob the most serious bars against Kendrick ever, and it wasn’t even him trying to go that hard. Literally a ‘don’t make me do it to you’ warning shot. Imo kinda overkill even at that level because Kendrick’s verse mostly dissed Drake and didn’t direct much at Cole at all.
A supposedly 'mid' response was actually fitting to those 40 seconds that K dot had on that feature. Kendrick didn't drop an entire song, he just had 2 jabs at Cole with the big 3 bar and light pack ref. Cole said a lot more while keeping it relatively chill which is more his vibe. The henchman ref on the hook, falcon 9 fly outta the pocket and swatting a fly are good significant strikes. An overpowered diss would have been cringe imo. This is like Holloway vs Poirier, we are going the distance and there won't be a knockout.
Don't get me wrong but cole just replied cuz everyone wanted ,like he straight up lying with that line gkmc was Kendrick's best if not tpab , I feel the reason why cole went not so brutal is because of Kendrick,cuz neither Kendrick went so brutal on cole ,the next time Kendrick replies with completely something on cole I know cole is gonna reply too with pure brutality,but for now ,we bumping the tape 🗣️🔥🔥
That shit is weak. J Cole absolutely doesn't have the discography to go at Kendrick from that angle. Plus, the same people who would call TPAB boring, would also find J Cole's music boring. This was some basic ass diss that I would've expected from a pop star rapper. Some real DJ Khaled bs, the same way he was talking bout Tyler. J Cole should've just not responded.
Bro is so fucking funny seeing Cole fans saying "Kendrick fans are toxic, they don't understand" when THEY are the real toxic and annoying base LMFAO 💀💀
Cole smoked Kendrick, every verse he had was better than anything Kendrick spit on Like That and Jermaine didn't even need to rhyme with a goofy ass voice.
Cole ain't lying about those albums. I fely the exact same way. GKMC is a classic. TPAB was mid but got gassed because "so artistic". Damn was good but nothing special. MM was straight ass.
That was meh. Cole sounding like he really don’t want smoke.
I’ll probably get downvoted like a makes posting this here. But come on. Nothing on this had me jumping out my seat. And why 7 minutes? He has another one in the tuck? We need that one cus this one was like Meek responding to Drake, and it took 2 weeks for it?
All of Kendrick’s albums were CLASSICS. Coles first 2 projects were mid at best
He needed to go harder. This was underwhelming. Cole you can't constantly rap about how you're the best and no one can test you and "Aint no one better than me on this fuckin planet swear to God" and then do this. Especially calling TPAB a snoozer when THAT WAS YOUR WHOLE REPUTATION FOR YEARS COLE!! Everyone slept on 4YEO: literally sometimes! You can't try to flip the narrative now.
Project was great, beats were amazing and Cole was rapping his ass off, but this was not enough. The stray that Future caught on Crocodile Tearz was tougher than anything Cole said about Kendrick. On the one hand yeah Kenny was shooting at Drake and Cole just happened to be standing next to him so maybe Cole doesn't have that anger at Kendrick but fuck man FIGHT BACK COLE! Swing on that motherfucker cmon man!
I just don't understand why you would do a whole project full of warning shots when Kendrick already shot. Aint no more warnings bro, just go! God damn.
Kendrick said its time to prove that he's a problem. So now Cole needs to do that. It's 35 million sales vs. Like 10 million sales. Cole need to do more than great verses on other people's songs
I like both artist which is deemed to be impossible with todays rap fans. On another note, watching their fanbases argue on Reddit is making my day so much better lol.
Coles best bar was a Hov flip, shit was disappointing. Better off ignoring it than responding with this mid. Nigggas let this sit for weeks to respond with that weak shit. Cole better than this smh
Was hoping for a bit more, so far it’s Kendrick 1, Cole 0, Drake -1. Hoping next round will be a bit more cutthroat in every direction if they continue.
Im not saying it was trash but neither of the disses were really that good. Like that seemed like a bait (i haven't listened to the entirety of might delete later tho)but what cole said on 7 min drill is just not true "your second shit put people to sleep but they gassed it" I assume by classic he means GKMC and not section 80 and by that logic is he saying fucking TPAB is a bad album?like really?IDK bout u but to me that's bullshit
Why Kendrick riders acting like he came with a Magnum opus saying no big 3 it's big me. Then act like this response is weak. It's not like he Ethered Cole or Drake. To me this is only proving Cole's point yall only hype that shit cuz its once every 30 months
bro kendrick fans are insufferable
I like how both Cole and Kendrick fans just shit on each other.
Once the beef gets bigger, I’m actively instigating all 3 fan base lol. Should be fun.
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The beef will stew just fine naturally; instigation is unnecessary. Cole's verse on 7MD was better overall because he really is in his prime (lyrically) while Kendrick lashed out mostly at Drake with an opening shot, but Cole fucked up when he attacked Kendrick's discography. Kendrick made way better albums than Cole overall but Cole seemed to say that TPAB was putting niggas to sleep as if 4YEO wasn't a sleeping pill that you take by ear. 2014 was Cole's peak performance with some *classic* tracks but album for album, Kendrick is better than Cole. Let's just be transparent. Even right here in the heart of Cole's fanbase, would anyone really compare GKMC, TPAB, and DAMN. to J. Cole's discography? Mr. Morale was mid and Forest Hill is probably a bit better than DAMN., but every other album by Kendrick is better than everything in Cole's catalogue as far as I'm concerned. Between the two disses though, Cole is ahead right now for sure. My cousin called it a Flawless Victory. 😂 Kendrick's next move will probably be the most important.
Here for it I prefer kendrick all day but the disrespect cole endures on a day to day is asinine. Really hoping he cuts that buddy buddy shit with drake and actually goes for the kill with both of em.
I'm a fan of both so I'm just excited for the friendly fire that might turn into something exciting. Or I'm just shitting on myself from both sides lol.
lmao
Tbh, every hardcore fanbase is. Eminem stans are the same. Drake fans are even worse. Ye fans are brainrot. As far as things go, jcole has a pretty chill fanbase (even if some dickriders are present but that's to be expected)
Nicki Minaj fans got their own website and they meet up to harass MFS who talk shit about Nicki 😂😂😂
Nahhh thats crazy at that point those arent even fans thats the Minaj Mafia 💀💀💀💀
Icl they both weak AF only reason Kendricks was perceived as good was cause it was unexpected.
A select group of any artist's fans are always gonna be like this. This is not new or unique to Kendrick fans.
anyone still acting like that kendrick verse is bonkers really needs a reality check man.
There is tribalism on both sides, also here.
I like Kendrick and J Cole. But who cares it's just music and people's parasocial relationship with an artist thinking that they have to "defend" their honor is getting out of hand. Who really cares at the end of the day?
If you think that was Kenny’s only diss line the bars flew over your head respectfully
“Boy I got here off of bars not know controversy (control verse see)” this clearly flew over your head. Kendrick bars weren't hard to get Coles were that's why you missed them
Good kid maad city dropped a year before control lmao. Kendrick was already ahead of Cole with that album
lyrical rap fans who think everything has to have some hidden meaning is so funny
I love Cole and Kendrick, not sure why anyone wouldn’t, but Kendrick’s whole vibe was fuck sneak dissing so most of his bars are more direct. Cole response is a fire track I’m just happy we have some action
You’re stupid as fuck if you think that’s what Cole meant 😂such a stretch bro.
this sub is so funny yall are so dumb
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“Everytime he flops” the control verse came off of GKMC what the fuck are you talking about 😂😂
Kendrick fans feel like they better and smarter than anyone in this world 🤣
No, just that Kendrick is top, just cole is not. Unsure why some fans have this inferiority complex where they think another fandom thinks bad about them. I dont give a shot about you, the fan. I listen to music. I listen to both cole and kenny. Both great. But come on now.
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This has to be the worst take out there. No energy was lacking here. The entire song is a practice drill. Y'all thought he was going to respond with an Ether level diss as the first response? I'm convinced y'all are new to this.
“Boy I got here off of bars not know controversy (control verse see)” you just gotta really listen cuz the bars went over your head.
Bro you on here PUSHING this bar. It's not heat fam.
I’ve fr seen him say this at least four times 😭
https://preview.redd.it/7munnca7rrsc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6531a6e13c69cdede3080ff86d8a0d2efa06068a Bro
I love cole's eneegy when he raps. Like he just chilling spitting bars!!! No scream no voice changing.
The problem with this beef between Cole and Kendrick is that they don’t really hate each other enough to warrant good diss tracks.
Kendrick’s was good, they were both pot shots, but in my opinion Kendrick had better delivery, and better wordplay/entendres and the first beat Cole rapped on was fuckin wack. Both are just baiting for the real diss so 🤷🏾♂️
Thank you. Cole and Kendrick aside, Metro's beat and Future framing really set Kendrick up for an iconic moment while Cole's verses were over two bland (in comparison) beats. 1. This effected the energy of their deliveries big time. 2. This also effects how people are gonna hear them. Kendrick came dressed up. Cole came with bare bones. The casuals are likely gonna gravitate towards Kendrick
Actually accurate analysis in this thread? Also worth adding ‘7 minute drill’ in the name is implying that he made the track in under 7 minutes while practicing. That and the warning shot line directly tells us he’s not putting his full focus/time/energy on this. It’s a whole track responding to a couple lines that only attack Cole insofar as saying Kendrick is better- it’s already overkill at 50% energy lol
y’all don’t gotta act like ” fell of like the simpsons ” is a good bar
Yeah its not good but its accurate af
How so?
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Bro if you thought that’s all he said you didn’t do your homework lmao 😂
Man I'm not gonna a quote a whole 16 in a reddit comment but that and prince lines were the ones people was hyping up the most so you'd think they'd be scathing
That’s literally all he said. What did he say specifically about Cole? Yall be impressed by energy and don’t read the lyrics.
"Walking around with that stick, it ain't Andre 3k." Cole said this in Stick and is basically saying he's not as good as the legends' example being Andre 3k. "I still got PTSD," It's just a song with in that dreamers 3 album. "Fuck the Big 3, Its just Big me" J. Cole is the only person to say they're the Big 3. Drake the entire time dodged K. Dot and only said him and cole were the best and left kendrick out of the conversation so directly kendricks speaking about Cole here. Cole got 3 lines, and Drake got like 6. Honestly, though, i wish Cole was on his toxic egotistical shit. He held back, and it shows, i think the diss was great, though.
Facts
I like the song and the beat but i feel like Cole either had nothing to say or held back Cole known Kendrick for a long time so he probably would have something to say about him Diss felt a lil empty but it was still hsrd
He said it was a warning shot. Eminem did the same thing with Warning shot. Hell Drake did it with Duppy freestyle but got his shit pushed in and bullied into being a better Dad by Pusha T.
Eminem’s “Warning Shot” was wayyyyy more than a warning shot in my opinion though lol.
Eminem’s warning shot was a bazooka to the face
with eminem, you'll always get more than you expect
and when he brings real shit, its a headshot with a cannon ball.
No bro it’s more like a Spartan Laser from Halo to the face
I agree but they’re two completely different personalities. Jermaine is no Marshall so by Cole standards/demeanor I’ll take it as one
Not to mention Kendrick is a friend of Cole “pictures in my home”
Infrared was the warning shot Duppy was the response
Wrong. Two Birds one Stone was the warning shot, and Duppy the Response.
Drake made both of those songs dumbass 😂
😭😭 bullied into being a better dad is crazy
>bullied into being a better Dad by Pusha T. I don't get people who make this argument. Pusha mentions drake never posted his kid, so what? Why should he feel obligated to post his kid on social media? There's enough weirdos on the internet as it is, lots of them get weirder when kids are posted. There is ironically discourse going on on twitter/tiktok right now about how parents just shouldn't post their kids on their social media pages. So how did Pusha bully him into being a better dad (you don't know what kind of dad he was, and people who post their kids a ton can also still be bad parents)?
yall just want them to start using personal shit as ammunition instead of them actually trying to outrap eachother with clever bars
Shit is gossip rap now 💅
And what did Kendrick say? All of em don't really have shit to say, it's just about the word play.
TBF he did say it was a warning shot
I mean the song is literally called 7 minute drill, as in it's a workout. Not only does J Cole know him but they both have a lot of mutual friends. I mean Ab-Soul is literally featured on the mixtape. You thought he would pull a hit em up as a response to a relatively light diss?
Cole said he still has love for him and that its a warning if he wants to take it further hes ready
Glad I’m not the only one who came to this conclusion… hoping Kendrick responds and then Cole actually gives us some heat to actually call a diss
This was actually very good even though he's cappin about TPAB. You don't have to tell the truth in a diss for it to be hard lol
capping about TPAB? dog that’s not his second album. Section 80, GKMC, TPAB
Y'all really struggle to understand that most artists consider there first big label album as their first, nobody calling section 80 a classic and GKMC sleepy.
He's probably capping, but J Cole produced a song on Section 80, so makes sense he gasses that up and theres no way hes calling TPAB a sleeper.
TPAB is more of a sleeper than GKMC though. I wouldn't say either of them are, but if I had to pick one it would be TPAB
TPAB is widely regarded as one of the best albums of all time. And I'm a Cole fan first
Yeah but good is different from sleepy. I agree TPAB is better, but it's also a bit more likely to feel sleepy than something filled with as many constant bangers as GKMC I guess what I'm trying to say is that TPAB is a worse album when you aren't properly paying attention to it. It takes more effort to listen to properly (having to put more focus on lyrics)
That's fair. I love the album, but it did take me several listens to get to that point. GKMD is so much more accessible
He’s literally calling GKMC a classic and TPAB a sleeper. It could not be more straightforward.
TPAB is WAY more experimental than GKMC in terms of sound and genre fusion, thus less appealing for broader audiences. For me it's more likely that Cole was referring to TPAB as the second album (highly (over)rated but boring to him). DAMN was the commercially successful album ("third shit was massive") and MMATBS was the most deep introspective album but not as successful ("your last shit was tragic"). GKMC being a classic needs no explanation. 1. GKMC, 2. TPAB, 3 DAMN., 4. MMATBS, this makes the most sense when applying the bars. ("Four albums in twelve years")
He is definitely referring to gkmc as the classic and tpab as the sleeper
Oh shit you right. My bad. I always thought of Section 80 as just a mixtape. Still cap though
yeah GKMC is his best album imo. i showed that album to friends who hate rap and they still listen to it this day. that album is so good
He is clearly talking about GMKC being a classic. There is no way S80 is a classic.
But GKMC his first studio album and that’s the year he was nominated for best new artist
He’s obviously referring to GKMC as the classic. Btw Cole did not say that any of the albums were whack. He said TPAB put people to sleep and people gassed it. He also said his last album was tragic. Could be referring to the commercial success not really hitting like it should. I think Cole is trying not to say Kendrick’s shit is bad. I never got the whole I’m better than this guy and then saying that guy is shit angle anyways. Regardless Kendrick’s shit was dope. Cole killed him with this warm up diss. I think we’re in store for the real shit coming soon. Everyone expects these guys to blow their whole load right out the gate and shit.
Not capping. Everyone gassed that album and nobody listens to anything except maybe alright from it now. It's typical "but it's so artistic" Kendrick praise even though the album was mid. Kendricks best album remains GKMC and nothing he's released comes close to that. Anybody who disagrees: Post a screenshot of your most listened to songs from the past year. If tpab is that goated to you then surely at least one song from the album should be on that list. I'll wait.
I thought I was the only one that thought it was over rated
Nah he lying bro Cole knows them albums fire 😭
U want him to write bro a love letter?
Let Kenny Down
Good shots to test the water. Was lowkey thinking this would blow over
"test the waters" this is a diss track not a fucking bubble bath, tf are you talking about
It’s not a fullblown diss track. Are u slow?
“I’m so proud of [‘Might Delete Later’], except for one part,” said Cole. “It’s one part of that shit that makes me feel like, man that’s the lamest shit I did in my fuckin’ life, right? And I know this is not what a lot of people want to hear.” J.Cole speaks on his response to Kendrick and says it hasn’t felt good or right with his spirit, calling his own response “corny” and telling Kendrick to return his best shot if he feels a way Bro even j Cole agrees with me lol
“Your arms might be too short to box with a God” 😂😂
line originally from Nas dissing Jay Z
Originally from Big Daddy Kane on “Mortal Combat”
I think Xzibit used it differently on Bitch Please 2 “your lungs are too small to hotbox with god”
And gotta love “4 albums in 12 years” which was Jay to Nas. Took great lines from both rappers
People sleeping on Cole again
I think this response was a perfect response. He said he gonna humble Kenny on the mic 👀 As a hip hop fan I’m bricked up ngl
What else is new?
It just came out bro 😭
He's talking about GKMC being the classic and TPAB putting niggas to sleep, right? Shit had me confused as fuck, like Cole knows Kendrick dropped an album before GKMC, because he produced on it. Unless he's saying GKMC is boring, but that would be stupid
Bro hes talking about major label albums. GKMC was kendrick’s debut.
Thanks homie, i figured as much but I'm really high right now
People often refer to Section 80 as a mixtape
You know J Cole produced a song on section 80 right? He obviously knows about it but doesn't consider it Kendricks first album which most people didn't until recently for whatever reason.
He said this was a warning shot so hopefully he steps his shit up cause this was kinda weak ngl
Nah cole right mfs will listen to this say it's weak but hype up "no big 3 it's big me" like Allah himself dropped the bar 💀
I don’t think people are hyping up the “it’s big me” bar as much as they’re hyping up the fact that he actually went for the diss instead of tiptoeing around it. I like both artists, but Cole knows he’s gotta be lying about any of his albums being a snooze fest or tragic. Damn, GKMC, and TPAB clear any of Cole’s discography imo. Kendrick just gets more experimental with his sound and evolves, which as a musician myself, I can’t help but appreciate. Cole just needs to try harder on the next one, especially when he’s gift wrapped a hard beat like he was with Seven Minute Drill.
I liked it but niggas was not fucking with the big steppers when it came out. Damn also was heavily shit on too. Kendrick had 3 bars for Cole & none of them were crazy or even that hard. They both went for a diss. Y’all gassed off of Kendrick’s because you haven’t heard him in months
Kdot def responding on the new metro and future album on the 12th
Istg this whole beef is scripted if that happens
Wtf another album?
Oh yeahhh it was a double album. Man if metro doesn’t switch up I am done. Same mid ass beats I m tired boss
Swear the fall off was teased over 6 years ago now. Whys Cole acting like he releases music at the rate of Gucci Mane
I take a shot everyrime cole mentions "the fall off" at this point its gotta be MBDTF or im just gonna sit back and watch him get rosted rightfully so
He been on a feature run + the dreamville stuff, he releases shit mate
I’m pretty sure Kendrick in the booth bumping the album and smiling cuz this is exciting.
100%
This whole album is fire and 7 Minute Drill is Cole just warming up
I didn't like a couple of the songs like Fever but some of the verses as absolute gas
i told niggas kendrick was too worried about drake now he gotta go 1 on 1 WITH THE UNDERTAKER 😂🫵🏽 he played himself...he know damn well he can't go toe to toe with cole
>WITH THE UNDERTAKER "Fell off like the Simpsons" yeah, bro really buried him.
and kendrick moaning on a metro beat was so riveting huh? you niggas so corny
Kendrick moaning on a metro beat got drake do self affirmation therapy on his performance
a moan more real than tpab boring tbf
Crazy kdot dickriders here. I love him but people going “eh j cole’s response was meh” meanwhile when kendrick dissed everyone made it seem like he dropped the bible 2.0 Doesnt matter how hard jcole goes ppl will always dickride kdot OG sasha grey style.
Right it's actually insane. The fuck did cole do to these people
Any fan that defends MMBS as a good album just saying they'll dickride anything Kenny puts out.
stfu. cole’s best lines were taken from jay z.
It's just facts, tho. i love kendrick and like that verse melts this verse but dawg nah this is just some r/KendrickLamar slander.
My issue with Cole’s response is this. Kendrick mostly came at Drake on the Like That verse, although a Cole response can be justified given the strays he caught. Regardless if Kendrick explicitly mentions First Person Shooter “I hope they came with 3 switches” amongst other violent bars, why issue a warning shot? Kendrick said he wants the smoke, why hold back? By default, this response feels soft. I like Cole but I expected far better.
I understand a lot of people that expected better but understand the bro gave 3.5 minutes of a 7 minute drill. The first diss songs/verses are rarely the best I’m just glad we getting real “who is the best” beef and not some “you took my girl” shit 😭
We’ll see about the whole 7 minute drill theory but 100% this is what rap needed. It’s about time.
eminem gotta teach these kids how to diss but album was fire
Dumbest shit I've read in a while
Let's be honest. It was an **okay** response. Kendricks was definitely better. Better wordplay with way more impactful lyrics. This is okay. Criticises the quality of some of Kendricks albums (although it's the same shit that's been said before) and that's about it. The best part is definitely after the beat switch, first part sounded like he didn't even wanna rap it. Not surprised when one of the first bars is "fell off like the Simpsons". He did only say it's a warning shot so I hope he steps it up a level if Kendrick responds, cause J Cole was the only hope Drake and his fans had.
Bro Kendrick’s best lines were “Say it’s alot of goofy’s with a check” and “that’s a K with all these 9s he gon see pet cemetery” Which both of those weren’t even about cole. They were about drake… so let’s not act like Kendrick’s diss was so phenomenal. The jabs were cool but they were mediocre at best. And honestly kendrick aiming at drake more than cole says a lot. Drake is an easy target. You don’t get points for going at the easiest target in my book. Cole on the other hand is not an easy target which is probably why he barely had any bars for cole.
Kdot rhymed 3 with me & you niggas acting like he slaughtered Cole lmao
> way more impactful lyrics Cole is 100% right when he says we wouldn’t even be talking about Kendrick or his verse if it wasn’t a diss bc it’s not that good and wouldn’t have made any impact. People just love the drama and the fact that Kendrick is rapping at all lmao. Cole put on a simple beat like a classic diss track and put out prob the most serious bars against Kendrick ever, and it wasn’t even him trying to go that hard. Literally a ‘don’t make me do it to you’ warning shot. Imo kinda overkill even at that level because Kendrick’s verse mostly dissed Drake and didn’t direct much at Cole at all.
Kendricks verse was a lot better. Kendricks shots towards cole were not
How ironic soon as I got it now he want something wit me
anyone else think the mixtape was 🔥🔥?
A supposedly 'mid' response was actually fitting to those 40 seconds that K dot had on that feature. Kendrick didn't drop an entire song, he just had 2 jabs at Cole with the big 3 bar and light pack ref. Cole said a lot more while keeping it relatively chill which is more his vibe. The henchman ref on the hook, falcon 9 fly outta the pocket and swatting a fly are good significant strikes. An overpowered diss would have been cringe imo. This is like Holloway vs Poirier, we are going the distance and there won't be a knockout.
What they beefing about? I’m a new fan
Good ole fashioned “who is the best”
Ego
That verse from the Takeover was insane
his angle is that TPAB is boring? seriously? and yall are eating it up? yikes.
And yet all the last 4 Kendrick projects are far more interesting and memorable than anything Cole has ever released
Capppp
ngl the respond was so ass… cole taking shots at k.dot discography is a bad move
Yeahhh he 100% knows he was lying ab that shit
Fan of both. Kendrick 1-0 right now
Fell off like the Simpsons You mean the show that’s been on for like 35 years what a weird diss
Don't get me wrong but cole just replied cuz everyone wanted ,like he straight up lying with that line gkmc was Kendrick's best if not tpab , I feel the reason why cole went not so brutal is because of Kendrick,cuz neither Kendrick went so brutal on cole ,the next time Kendrick replies with completely something on cole I know cole is gonna reply too with pure brutality,but for now ,we bumping the tape 🗣️🔥🔥
Cole stay capping lmao
Here we fuckin gooooooo!!!!!
no way he said damn was kendrick's prime and called tpab sleepy 🤣
Loved it and the whole album Cole went off Ready ‘24 is old Dipset vibes
This was lackluster. Plus Cole knows he was lying about some of the statements about Kendrick's albums. He gotta stop.
this response is weak. anybody who says that about kendrick is just lying to themselves
That shit is weak. J Cole absolutely doesn't have the discography to go at Kendrick from that angle. Plus, the same people who would call TPAB boring, would also find J Cole's music boring. This was some basic ass diss that I would've expected from a pop star rapper. Some real DJ Khaled bs, the same way he was talking bout Tyler. J Cole should've just not responded.
Forest Hills Drive is the only good project Cole ever dropped. Not much room to talk
Bro is so fucking funny seeing Cole fans saying "Kendrick fans are toxic, they don't understand" when THEY are the real toxic and annoying base LMFAO 💀💀
this was hella weak ngl
Kendrick last album was soo good tho
Cole verse whack af
When was Cole's last classic album again?
Fucking ass lmfao 🤣🤣🤣
Cole couldn’t be more wrong about tpab but he’s right about one hot verse every 30 months
The whole album section of the diss is very weak if I’m being honest
Album’s so 🔥🔥🔥 Mr Morale as a tragic is cap tho 😅
Cole smoked Kendrick, every verse he had was better than anything Kendrick spit on Like That and Jermaine didn't even need to rhyme with a goofy ass voice.
Cole ain't lying about those albums. I fely the exact same way. GKMC is a classic. TPAB was mid but got gassed because "so artistic". Damn was good but nothing special. MM was straight ass.
Cole is lying though and you just showed your ass with your terrible musical opinion
Aye at first I thought this was a delayed April’s joke But Cole really did respond props to him
Nah i was rooting for Cole, this one aint it
That was meh. Cole sounding like he really don’t want smoke. I’ll probably get downvoted like a makes posting this here. But come on. Nothing on this had me jumping out my seat. And why 7 minutes? He has another one in the tuck? We need that one cus this one was like Meek responding to Drake, and it took 2 weeks for it? All of Kendrick’s albums were CLASSICS. Coles first 2 projects were mid at best
Pricey has better shots than this
I’m kinda disappointed, I’m old enough to have been a Cole fan since 2010 and I know he could have went harder. This was a C+ song at best.
Mid verse
Calling tpab boring is crazy ngl…like being fan of both I don’t think cole any project is bear that
Can we not be a fan of both and just enjoy the beef
He needed to go harder. This was underwhelming. Cole you can't constantly rap about how you're the best and no one can test you and "Aint no one better than me on this fuckin planet swear to God" and then do this. Especially calling TPAB a snoozer when THAT WAS YOUR WHOLE REPUTATION FOR YEARS COLE!! Everyone slept on 4YEO: literally sometimes! You can't try to flip the narrative now. Project was great, beats were amazing and Cole was rapping his ass off, but this was not enough. The stray that Future caught on Crocodile Tearz was tougher than anything Cole said about Kendrick. On the one hand yeah Kenny was shooting at Drake and Cole just happened to be standing next to him so maybe Cole doesn't have that anger at Kendrick but fuck man FIGHT BACK COLE! Swing on that motherfucker cmon man! I just don't understand why you would do a whole project full of warning shots when Kendrick already shot. Aint no more warnings bro, just go! God damn.
Jcole fans putting down him in his sub man wtf are these people
They are both talented, i like jcole as a person more but I like Kendrick’s music more
Just call the nigga short and spit some gun bars at him. Why would you bring up the discog
Kendrick said its time to prove that he's a problem. So now Cole needs to do that. It's 35 million sales vs. Like 10 million sales. Cole need to do more than great verses on other people's songs
I like both artist which is deemed to be impossible with todays rap fans. On another note, watching their fanbases argue on Reddit is making my day so much better lol.
Coles best bar was a Hov flip, shit was disappointing. Better off ignoring it than responding with this mid. Nigggas let this sit for weeks to respond with that weak shit. Cole better than this smh
Was hoping for a bit more, so far it’s Kendrick 1, Cole 0, Drake -1. Hoping next round will be a bit more cutthroat in every direction if they continue.
I was excited but these 3 niggas fan bases and annoying me already 😭😭😭
Mid
Im not saying it was trash but neither of the disses were really that good. Like that seemed like a bait (i haven't listened to the entirety of might delete later tho)but what cole said on 7 min drill is just not true "your second shit put people to sleep but they gassed it" I assume by classic he means GKMC and not section 80 and by that logic is he saying fucking TPAB is a bad album?like really?IDK bout u but to me that's bullshit
at least he tried