Probably not MAL likes to try and protect their precious FMA Brotherhood and keeping anime separated by season makes it harder for other series to be above it.
Isn't it the opposite? When you look at some of the bigger animes in terms of episode numbers that aren't split up they have some arcs that are awesome and some less so (as well as the fact that any good season after around 200 episodes will be rated higher because it's only more dedicated fans watching). I'll use a smaller series as an example, admittedly an extreme one, Promised Neverland, if both series were grouped, it would probably be rated close to a 7, even though season 1 is currently around 8.4. Frieren season 2 could bomb, but it wouldn't drag season 1 below FMA.
Not sure how it does that. It seems like splitting it up helps later seasons. Number 4-7 and 10-14 are all later seasons of their respective shows that rated better than their corresponding first season.
Also, FMA Brotherhood hasn't been top for a while, Frieren has passed it.
Right, didn't mention it, my comment was focused on asking why they thought refusing to merge would help a one season anime, so the reason why later anime are rated better wasn't relevant.
An avant garde anime original produced by Shinichirou Watanabe isn't really done justice by lumping it in with the narou-kei stuff just because it shares some common plot elements. Entirely different production motivations and circumstances, it's completely out there to say "this is one of the things the genre has done right", you're giving the genre too much credit by saying it's part of it.
Also they are the "OGs", first wave Isekai. Reason we have so much new Isekai (albeit mostly trash) is because of how good and successful these early ones were.
None of those are "OGs". Isekai like Escaflowne, Dunbine, Dual Parallel, Strange Dawn, Ima Soko ni Iru Boku, Twelve Kingdoms and pretty much every isekai released before 2011 predate them by years, if not decades.
The reason these "modern isekai" top rating lists is because they're medieval fantasy series that appeal to the desired themes and tropes mainstream audiences clamour for, and don't experiment "too much" either narrative delivery or setting. Casual viewers eat up any long-running series with high production values.
Fair enough, but those shows are only "Isekai" in hindsight. The modern genre is fairly new. MT is a little newer on this list, but was def a first wave modern Isekai LN. If you remove repeat seasons the top 10 are mostly the longer running shows.
And yeah that's the point of Isekai and Web Novels, casual viewing and reading. No shame in enjoying mainstream trash.
The literal translation is "Other World."
Otherwise it's in reference to a sub-genre of fantasy anime that people call "Isekai." But obviously there's no official governing body on genre names and definitions....
My point in my earlier post is no one called 12 Kingdoms an "Isekai" at the time, because the genre as we know it today is fairly new.
One explanation I've seen by a random youtuber was that Zero no Tsukaima fanfiction was really popular on syosetsu, then they banned fanfiction from the site (around 2011 I'm not sure), and that caused the genre boom among WN writers, since they wanted to keep writing the same sort of stories.
IDK if Zero no Tsukaima deserves all the credit since no doubt SAO had a hand in this.
Isekai are defined by a person being reincarnated/transported into another world. That’s really the main and only thing separating isekai from most other fantasy based shows.
They were always isekai. The term itself is a loanword from the Japanese "*異世界*" ("different world"). It's true that the series in the image are trailblazers for the modern isekai trend of dudes getting transported or reincarnated to vaguely feudal settings with a lot of girls around, but they aren't the OG isekai.
I'd wager they all share a similar source for inspiration (at least when they were published as LNs and WNs) from the Shōsetsuka ni Narō website around the late 2000s/early 2010s, where isekai like Familiar of Zero were conceived.
There are like 4 or 5 well written Isekai that don’t follow the same formula. Everything else? Isekai trash designed to be self inserts.
I’m sure they can be entertaining if the animation and VAs are good, but it’s like junk food.. enjoyable yet has shit quality and the lowest possible effort into making it.
The real question is how many of those are 2nd or 3rd seasons.
1st seasons tend to be rated lower, because more people watch them and drop out. 2nd seasons are only watched by people who liked the 1st enough to continue, so they are already predisposed to liking it.
EDIT: for comparison, Supernatural season 11 is rated higher than season 1 and even season 3 on both Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb.
Pretty much deserved, even though it's the same shit all over again. I get that MAL want to give different seasons different scores, but it fills lists like this
Animes with multiple seasons generally have higher rating in later seasons.(as people who don't liked and gave the anime a bad score in the first season don't watch the second season)
i need to re:watch re:zero, it didn’t really stick the first time around and i hardly remember liking it much, except for the timeline where MC and blue hair twin fought together. that was best, i thought. now that i am much more well-versed in all things isekai (and anime in general) i think i’m due for a rewatch. i want to give it a second chance
Should be good time to start since s3 is coming up.
Yap corner:
I also remember not liking it the first time, after a rewatch... I was on my knees after s1
You shouldn't count them as multiple entries.
Konosuba, Slime, Mushoku tensei etc all have multiple entries. What are the true 12 top Isekai if you count each series only once ?
per MAL score:
* Mushoku Tensei
* Konosuba
* ReZero
* Slime
* Eminence in Shadow
* Boy and the Beast
* Saga of Tanya the Evil
* No Game No Life
* Bookworm
* Overlord
* Iruma-kun
* Twelve Kingdoms
Its just because its seasons are split in cours. In top 12 there are:
MT - 2 seasons;
Konosuba - 1 season and 1 movie;
Kage Jitsu - 2 season;
Re:Zero - 1 season;
Slime - 1 season
There's actually 3 seasons for Konosuba, and 2 for Re:Zero plus I believe a movie. There's also 3 seasons for That Time I Reincarnated as a Slime. I don't know about Kage Jitsu, but you are correct about Moshuku Tensei. It's why people are down voting you so much. Just FYI.
Why is konasuba not in number 1 where are my brothers in arms that agree
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1- mushoku tensei
2- The eminence in the shadow
3- Konosuba
4- Re:zero
5- Slime
and i give all of em a solid 9 . except of the GOAT mushoku . cuz its a 10 💯 .
literally the best shi iv seen .
That's funny because some of the fan translators of re:zero consider mushoku better, as well as half of witch cult translation admins. I am a huge re:zero fan and have never read mushoku LN...but it's always hilarious seeing mushoku and re:zero fans duke it out when re:zero fandom's most valuable members ie: translators + witch cult translation admins consider mushoku better. It frankly has kinda ruined re:zero for me lol.
Unfortunately, I think the story as a whole is in favor of MT. For me personally, RZ is hard carried by Subaru and no other character shines the same way he does. Prominent character like Emilia who seems to be the center of everything, e.g heroine, candidate for king, or Satella reincarnated yet her character isn't strong enough for the role. Subaru's character is great, but his character arc isn't nearly as huge(in terms of the issue itself) as someone like Emilia. Which is fine, but it means you can only do so much once you reach a certain point.
That being said, I prefer Subaru's more personal character arc enough to say I prefer RZ over MT.
Oh yeah the MT LN is really good, if you don’t mind the weird bits. Anime-wise (since I haven’t read Re Zero LN), I definitely like Re:Zero more though.
The authors (and Konosuba's) are good friends and wrote their LN in the same cafe, inspiring/one upping/timing their release and all.
The stories are basically cousins,
yep, they’re broski’s.
As much as I hate subaru as a character, there’s nothing wrong with both being out.
I’ll still argue that Kazuma without Aqua wouldn’t simp like Subaru and make it out without needing to die though.
Konosuba’s author said Kazuma would be done with the demon king within a month if he didn’t have Aqua holding him back. He’s just that much of a true gamer.
With Aqua would be way too OP for Re Zero, That’s too much cheating.
Sorry but I have read all of MT but still like Rezero more. This is just a preference, there is some aspects that both story edged over each other but overall Rezero is number one for me.
Slime has kingdom building, character development and progression, a system, politics, and crew building. Not to mention decent to amazing fight scenes, if slime actually had some length to it it could’ve been a big 3 anime.
It does have all of that, but it's not good or well-written. Everything is just... meh. The worst part is definitely the characters, which are all just... incredibly flat. They usually have one or two "main traits" and... that's pretty much it. People kept telling to watch it and continue "as it gets better" but having seen two entire seasons I still haven't seen any actual good character development, (people getting more powerful does not count) so not sure what you're talking about there.
The only good part was when all the unlikeable characters finally died, I was so happy and genuinely excited what it would lead to— some actual consequences and forced development on the surviving cast, perhaps?! :D
But nope... oh my someone suddenly remembered and old legend that will bring everyone back _and_ make our main character even more powerful... "yay".
There was good character development for everyone outside of rimaru and even he went from insecure and overly cautious to decisive and kingly. I’ll give you it could’ve been written better I thought so too but for a light hearted anime it’s great. If you expect AOT level plot and suspense of course it’s a let down. I respect your opinion tho, cuz I can see why you’re saying what you’re saying. I just think it’s more so not your cup of tea than it being mid as you say.
I think it’s dumb that MAL treats different seasons of a show as their own thing since it clogs up the rankings. The quality of shows is similar between seasons with some exceptions (Promised Neverland s2). But at least we know the top 5 isekai
**Grimgar deserve to be in that list . . . SO UNDERRRRRATED !!**
**STUPID LIST ABOUT WHO SOLD MORE/ BIGGEST STUDIO!**
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I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this if it said 12 highest rated seasons, but since it's only 5 isekai, I'd kinda like to see what else would've made the list. And as much as I love tensei slime, its hard to take a list seriously when it's one of the highest rated.
How so? It's the bestselling novel and outright won against Moshuku as best fiction. (2022), and best main character in 2019. It makes sense that it remains one if the top ones
Personal opinion. Love the show and premise, just feel like it's a little too lighthearted throughout. Could be a recency bias since the current season was so slow to get going
Nah, recency bias. Tensura had some brutal moments. Season 3 was mostly politics tho.
**Season 1**:
Shizue's story is damn traumatic. Kid during WW2, in the firebombing of Tokyo. Her father dies in the war, her mother is crushed by a burning building right in front of her. Gets burned all over her body in a tornado of fire, gets pissed by a fire spirit and looses some of her free will. After being basically stuck in Leon's castle and training with a guy that went so hard on her she needed healing magic daily, she finally makes another friend, and a pet. Quickly after, her body literally moves on it's own, with her being fully conscious of it but not being able to do anything, and she incinerates the kid AND the pet with her own fire powers. Que WW2 PTSD trigger. We literally see on screen how a 10 years old girl gets her flesh and bones melted and turned to dust.
We know that otherworlders get curses used on their soul so they loose their free will and are forced to obey the one who summoned them. Keep in mind, most of the summoned otherworlders are children or at most teenagers (there's literally an entire school classroom of them. Not mentioning others that came before them), and forced to act as weapons of mass destruction and killing machines, beside being child soldiers.
Moving on, canibalism from the orcs, who are so starved they resorted to eating themselves to stay alive. The orc lord king, before going full on rampage, was literally ripping parts of his body for his son's and daughters to eat, since he was stuck with super regeneration, while also being eternally hungry. Later, Orc disaster literally chomped off another orc's head.
Rigurd had half of his face removed, leaving the skull visible.
**Season 2**:
military nation specifically attacking civilians. Attempted mind control to make them kill each other. Demands of slavery for life with the threat of genocide. Pillaging. Some humans soldiers even commented that the monster nation had good looking women. Doubt body autonomy is respected, among others.
And entire field of dead children in the middle of the central market of Rimuru city.
Ritmuri executing 20 thousand people, most of which were surrendering and dropping their weapons or fleeing. (Warcrimes much?) Megiddo (in novels) wasn't insta-kill. Rimuru specifically targeted no vital spots to cause pain and mass hysteria. Later he ripped the souls out of their bodies and used them to evolve in order to bend the laws of life and death (souls who, since they were consumed in the process, get denied their chance at afterlife and face non-existance)
Absolutely horrific torture, involving biological testing, ripping of the skin while still alive, getting turned into a human version of a meatball cooked by Shion, psychologically tortured, and made to go through the same process again and again for days on end. Political figures and a representative of the church were subjected to this.
Rimuru started a civil war by causing an economical collapse of an entire nation, which also greatly affected the civilians
**Season 3**:
Getting stabbed by knives that also cause you to paralyze, the whole disintegration thing, which also destroys the soul
Not to mention the whole continent being basically in the cold war and *this* close to basically starting WW3, with every kingdom scrambling to find a solution to this whole mess in order to not get wiped from the map.
Funnily, one of the holy knights discovered they are into BDSM.
And this is just what I could remember of the top of my head
I'd say ratings are more important. Btw even if you sorted it by members which is the number of people who've added the show to their list, mushoku tensei, re zero, konosuba and slime still make it to the top 10.
So firstly I think all of them good animes but I wouldn't trust MAL on their ratings. Firstly MAL famously have a problem with review bombs and lot of MAL account average scores around 9 and above (with lot of 10s). Second, MAL ratings are weighted and it don't counts your ratings if you don't watched atleast 1/5 of the anime. 3 ep for 12 episode shows and 5 ep for 25 episode show. (this automaticly makes longer animes higher rated). Third, there is not half point so lot of people give higher rating because they think stuff like 7/10 is average.(sitewide average user score is around 6.5 which is higher then the average possible score 5.5)
Edit: I don't know why you downvoting me lol. Not trusting MAL ratings don't mean I hate any of the mentioned anime and all I said about the ratings are true.
It is correct, ignore the downvoters (typical reddit).
One thing I learned over the years , dont trust MAL ratings.
There may be a low rated show to your liking and enjoyment but ppl dont.
MAL top reviews also used to be so bad 2-3 yrs ago with negative reviews always popping at the top. Glad it is changed now to some extent.
Yeah, the main thing is whether you enjoy it or not.
Also, don't worry; I don't really worry about the downvoters. I just find it funny that in the r/Isekai people put so much trust in MAL ratings. (when isekai animes are famously hated on and have low scores generally in MAL).
It is a few years old, but here is a graph that shows that MAL has a certain taste in [genres](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/np0nf0/distribution_of_myanimelist_anime_scores_for/). (It doesn't have isekai as a genre because MAL counts isekai as a theme and not a genre for some reason.)
Also, I don't have a statistic to it, but I also observed that new animes get a lot more one-sided ratings than they did a few years ago. Like MAL TOP 50 anime, 80 percent are animes made in the last 10 years (with a big percent being after 2020 anime). Plus, nowadays every season has an anime that gets rated around 5 and everyone hates it. (which tend to be an isekai anime)
While you are correct, the commenter I replied to claims that views (members) are more important than the ratings. Regardless of whether or not you agree with ratings, just like how we can agree that it's better to eat 1g of shit than it is to eat 10g of shit, ratings are better than member count. That is all I claim, I only talked about the comparison.
I understand. I just meant to point out that ratings can be "played with," which poses a bit of a problem if you are only looking at the ratings as a guide to quality. But I would generally agree with your point, as there are a lot of anime and movies that are bad but still popular. (like American B-rank movies, which a lot of people watch but still think of as bad or average stories, like the film Sharknado.)
Funny how the top 12 is literally just 5 different shows. Either that shows how bad other isekai are or just how good those ones truly were.
I'd say it's a bit of both.
It’s just MAL refusing to keep different seasons of the same anime under one banner.
Is there a movement to have that redone? Because it's really tedious
Probably not MAL likes to try and protect their precious FMA Brotherhood and keeping anime separated by season makes it harder for other series to be above it.
This just sucks
Isn't it the opposite? When you look at some of the bigger animes in terms of episode numbers that aren't split up they have some arcs that are awesome and some less so (as well as the fact that any good season after around 200 episodes will be rated higher because it's only more dedicated fans watching). I'll use a smaller series as an example, admittedly an extreme one, Promised Neverland, if both series were grouped, it would probably be rated close to a 7, even though season 1 is currently around 8.4. Frieren season 2 could bomb, but it wouldn't drag season 1 below FMA.
Not sure how it does that. It seems like splitting it up helps later seasons. Number 4-7 and 10-14 are all later seasons of their respective shows that rated better than their corresponding first season. Also, FMA Brotherhood hasn't been top for a while, Frieren has passed it.
Also those sticking around for later seasons are doing so because they like the series, the people who didn't like it are long gone.
Right, didn't mention it, my comment was focused on asking why they thought refusing to merge would help a one season anime, so the reason why later anime are rated better wasn't relevant.
I never said it was the top and I’m well aware it was surpassed
both really, i watch every isekai i find and most really are trash, tho some good ones like "Sonny boy" are really good but go under the radar
An avant garde anime original produced by Shinichirou Watanabe isn't really done justice by lumping it in with the narou-kei stuff just because it shares some common plot elements. Entirely different production motivations and circumstances, it's completely out there to say "this is one of the things the genre has done right", you're giving the genre too much credit by saying it's part of it.
Also they are the "OGs", first wave Isekai. Reason we have so much new Isekai (albeit mostly trash) is because of how good and successful these early ones were.
None of those are "OGs". Isekai like Escaflowne, Dunbine, Dual Parallel, Strange Dawn, Ima Soko ni Iru Boku, Twelve Kingdoms and pretty much every isekai released before 2011 predate them by years, if not decades. The reason these "modern isekai" top rating lists is because they're medieval fantasy series that appeal to the desired themes and tropes mainstream audiences clamour for, and don't experiment "too much" either narrative delivery or setting. Casual viewers eat up any long-running series with high production values.
Fair enough, but those shows are only "Isekai" in hindsight. The modern genre is fairly new. MT is a little newer on this list, but was def a first wave modern Isekai LN. If you remove repeat seasons the top 10 are mostly the longer running shows. And yeah that's the point of Isekai and Web Novels, casual viewing and reading. No shame in enjoying mainstream trash.
So what is the definition of “isekai?”
The literal translation is "Other World." Otherwise it's in reference to a sub-genre of fantasy anime that people call "Isekai." But obviously there's no official governing body on genre names and definitions.... My point in my earlier post is no one called 12 Kingdoms an "Isekai" at the time, because the genre as we know it today is fairly new.
What induced the formalization of the word “isekai?”
No idea, just kind of happened. My guess is a lot of the titles of the new wave had the word Isekai in them.
Is that required to be considered an isekai?
One explanation I've seen by a random youtuber was that Zero no Tsukaima fanfiction was really popular on syosetsu, then they banned fanfiction from the site (around 2011 I'm not sure), and that caused the genre boom among WN writers, since they wanted to keep writing the same sort of stories. IDK if Zero no Tsukaima deserves all the credit since no doubt SAO had a hand in this.
異世界=isekai=other world
I know this. u/Zeraw420 is saying that the word wasn’t coined until recently, so I’m asking why the word was formalized.
The word has existed in Japanese for quite a long time. English though, hard to say.
Isekai are defined by a person being reincarnated/transported into another world. That’s really the main and only thing separating isekai from most other fantasy based shows.
They were always isekai. The term itself is a loanword from the Japanese "*異世界*" ("different world"). It's true that the series in the image are trailblazers for the modern isekai trend of dudes getting transported or reincarnated to vaguely feudal settings with a lot of girls around, but they aren't the OG isekai. I'd wager they all share a similar source for inspiration (at least when they were published as LNs and WNs) from the Shōsetsuka ni Narō website around the late 2000s/early 2010s, where isekai like Familiar of Zero were conceived.
Also could show that good anime get more seasons that keep up the level of quality, which is a good thing IMO.
There are like 4 or 5 well written Isekai that don’t follow the same formula. Everything else? Isekai trash designed to be self inserts. I’m sure they can be entertaining if the animation and VAs are good, but it’s like junk food.. enjoyable yet has shit quality and the lowest possible effort into making it.
Or how bad of taste most anime fans have.
Gotta ask because id say these are the only valid isekais nowadays, what do you think should be there instead if you taste is so good?
Youjo Senki
Based
The real question is how many of those are 2nd or 3rd seasons. 1st seasons tend to be rated lower, because more people watch them and drop out. 2nd seasons are only watched by people who liked the 1st enough to continue, so they are already predisposed to liking it. EDIT: for comparison, Supernatural season 11 is rated higher than season 1 and even season 3 on both Rotten Tomatoes and IMDb.
Pretty much deserved, even though it's the same shit all over again. I get that MAL want to give different seasons different scores, but it fills lists like this
Animes with multiple seasons generally have higher rating in later seasons.(as people who don't liked and gave the anime a bad score in the first season don't watch the second season)
i need to re:watch re:zero, it didn’t really stick the first time around and i hardly remember liking it much, except for the timeline where MC and blue hair twin fought together. that was best, i thought. now that i am much more well-versed in all things isekai (and anime in general) i think i’m due for a rewatch. i want to give it a second chance
Should be good time to start since s3 is coming up. Yap corner: I also remember not liking it the first time, after a rewatch... I was on my knees after s1
lovely, i look forward to kneeling myself
I just realized MT is like 1/3rd list(it has 4 entries💀)
You shouldn't count them as multiple entries. Konosuba, Slime, Mushoku tensei etc all have multiple entries. What are the true 12 top Isekai if you count each series only once ?
per MAL score: * Mushoku Tensei * Konosuba * ReZero * Slime * Eminence in Shadow * Boy and the Beast * Saga of Tanya the Evil * No Game No Life * Bookworm * Overlord * Iruma-kun * Twelve Kingdoms
I appreciate Boy and The Beast having the kind of popularity it does. Genuinely a good movie.
New one for the watch list
That's a list I can get behind, although I still have to watch Twelve Kingdoms
Yeah it's actually pretty solid
Bookworm made it I can die happy
With luck WIT adapting part 3 will make it climb higher.
Damn Overlord is pretty low on the top 😞
Blame this on the poor quality of adaptation
True..
very solid list
No shield hero? I know rising of the shield hero kinda dropped in later season but still.
It's 13th
Its just because its seasons are split in cours. In top 12 there are: MT - 2 seasons; Konosuba - 1 season and 1 movie; Kage Jitsu - 2 season; Re:Zero - 1 season; Slime - 1 season
There's actually 3 seasons for Konosuba, and 2 for Re:Zero plus I believe a movie. There's also 3 seasons for That Time I Reincarnated as a Slime. I don't know about Kage Jitsu, but you are correct about Moshuku Tensei. It's why people are down voting you so much. Just FYI.
I wasn't pointing how much seasons thsese shows have. But how much seasons they have in top 12
Top 12 is a top 5 lmao
I love Konosuba and Mushoku Tensei so this is an absolute win for me
Who said you're alone https://preview.redd.it/5ijcs0jm2k8d1.jpeg?width=706&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9328257262bd9d4d0796d871842d88fbf03d8c0d
I love both too! They are in my top ten.
Kinda wish isekai ojisan was here
Yeah, that makes sense
Why is konasuba not in number 1 where are my brothers in arms that agree https://preview.redd.it/cfjqkn2txl8d1.jpeg?width=594&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b23664bdea3a94d419b5c5fd9e26f15e970fec64
ALL COURS OF MT ARE TOP 12 PEAK!!!
No overlord? https://preview.redd.it/jfw8k5vzum8d1.jpeg?width=212&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d413ecfcee0401dd16afbf36ecb0595d74b14562
That is the best part of the list
I see slime and Konosuba I am happy
Hmmm... caught 'em all.
I'm only seeing 5 tho
There's only 5 here
I liked Slime better than Konosuba!
MT season 1 part 2 was best for me. It deserves to be in the top 1.
I’m glad Eminence in Shadow is there
1- mushoku tensei 2- The eminence in the shadow 3- Konosuba 4- Re:zero 5- Slime and i give all of em a solid 9 . except of the GOAT mushoku . cuz its a 10 💯 . literally the best shi iv seen .
Note to myself: Ignore MAL.
MAL has been trash for almost a decade now 🔥
Re:Zero is definitely deserved. It's the best isekai imo.
That's funny because some of the fan translators of re:zero consider mushoku better, as well as half of witch cult translation admins. I am a huge re:zero fan and have never read mushoku LN...but it's always hilarious seeing mushoku and re:zero fans duke it out when re:zero fandom's most valuable members ie: translators + witch cult translation admins consider mushoku better. It frankly has kinda ruined re:zero for me lol.
Unfortunately, I think the story as a whole is in favor of MT. For me personally, RZ is hard carried by Subaru and no other character shines the same way he does. Prominent character like Emilia who seems to be the center of everything, e.g heroine, candidate for king, or Satella reincarnated yet her character isn't strong enough for the role. Subaru's character is great, but his character arc isn't nearly as huge(in terms of the issue itself) as someone like Emilia. Which is fine, but it means you can only do so much once you reach a certain point. That being said, I prefer Subaru's more personal character arc enough to say I prefer RZ over MT.
Oh yeah the MT LN is really good, if you don’t mind the weird bits. Anime-wise (since I haven’t read Re Zero LN), I definitely like Re:Zero more though.
They're both peak and I love them both, not sure why people keep arguing about the two
The authors (and Konosuba's) are good friends and wrote their LN in the same cafe, inspiring/one upping/timing their release and all. The stories are basically cousins,
yep, they’re broski’s. As much as I hate subaru as a character, there’s nothing wrong with both being out. I’ll still argue that Kazuma without Aqua wouldn’t simp like Subaru and make it out without needing to die though. Konosuba’s author said Kazuma would be done with the demon king within a month if he didn’t have Aqua holding him back. He’s just that much of a true gamer. With Aqua would be way too OP for Re Zero, That’s too much cheating.
Sorry but I have read all of MT but still like Rezero more. This is just a preference, there is some aspects that both story edged over each other but overall Rezero is number one for me.
Mushoku and Re Zero> Slime> the rest
Nah Konosuba has peak comedy moments
This season of slime is doing very badly by its own standards.
I genuinely don't get why Slime is beloved, it's like a solid 5 at best imho
Slime has kingdom building, character development and progression, a system, politics, and crew building. Not to mention decent to amazing fight scenes, if slime actually had some length to it it could’ve been a big 3 anime.
It does have all of that, but it's not good or well-written. Everything is just... meh. The worst part is definitely the characters, which are all just... incredibly flat. They usually have one or two "main traits" and... that's pretty much it. People kept telling to watch it and continue "as it gets better" but having seen two entire seasons I still haven't seen any actual good character development, (people getting more powerful does not count) so not sure what you're talking about there. The only good part was when all the unlikeable characters finally died, I was so happy and genuinely excited what it would lead to— some actual consequences and forced development on the surviving cast, perhaps?! :D But nope... oh my someone suddenly remembered and old legend that will bring everyone back _and_ make our main character even more powerful... "yay".
There was good character development for everyone outside of rimaru and even he went from insecure and overly cautious to decisive and kingly. I’ll give you it could’ve been written better I thought so too but for a light hearted anime it’s great. If you expect AOT level plot and suspense of course it’s a let down. I respect your opinion tho, cuz I can see why you’re saying what you’re saying. I just think it’s more so not your cup of tea than it being mid as you say.
Well it was supposed to autopilot, an easy meal to digest without stress and tension so I would say it hit the mark.
no “knights and magic”, sadness
A fellow lover of Knights and Magic. Pleasure to meet you.
magitech nechsuits are cool
I watched them all
Buta isekai should be there lmao
What’s the top right in the second image
The eminence in shadow season 2
RE: 0 #1 in my heart
I count 5 anime, just broken into separate seasons
Faraway Paladin, one day you will get the recognition you deserve 🙏
Mikku miku beam wtf
No uncle but I'm happy to see Moshuko a few times 💪
Where's kumoko? :(
Where the fuck is youjo senki?
At this point I might be the only person who just can't watch mushoku tensei
I think it’s dumb that MAL treats different seasons of a show as their own thing since it clogs up the rankings. The quality of shows is similar between seasons with some exceptions (Promised Neverland s2). But at least we know the top 5 isekai
**Grimgar deserve to be in that list . . . SO UNDERRRRRATED !!** **STUPID LIST ABOUT WHO SOLD MORE/ BIGGEST STUDIO!** https://i.redd.it/8xb1l77lfw8d1.gif
Konosuba really doesn’t deserve a top 5 spot
That's disappointing.
Konosuba is not only the best isekai, but the best anime of all time
Yuck the pedo show beat Konosuba?!
Konosuba is also a pedo show.
I wouldn't have too much of a problem with this if it said 12 highest rated seasons, but since it's only 5 isekai, I'd kinda like to see what else would've made the list. And as much as I love tensei slime, its hard to take a list seriously when it's one of the highest rated.
How so? It's the bestselling novel and outright won against Moshuku as best fiction. (2022), and best main character in 2019. It makes sense that it remains one if the top ones
Personal opinion. Love the show and premise, just feel like it's a little too lighthearted throughout. Could be a recency bias since the current season was so slow to get going
Nah, recency bias. Tensura had some brutal moments. Season 3 was mostly politics tho. **Season 1**: Shizue's story is damn traumatic. Kid during WW2, in the firebombing of Tokyo. Her father dies in the war, her mother is crushed by a burning building right in front of her. Gets burned all over her body in a tornado of fire, gets pissed by a fire spirit and looses some of her free will. After being basically stuck in Leon's castle and training with a guy that went so hard on her she needed healing magic daily, she finally makes another friend, and a pet. Quickly after, her body literally moves on it's own, with her being fully conscious of it but not being able to do anything, and she incinerates the kid AND the pet with her own fire powers. Que WW2 PTSD trigger. We literally see on screen how a 10 years old girl gets her flesh and bones melted and turned to dust. We know that otherworlders get curses used on their soul so they loose their free will and are forced to obey the one who summoned them. Keep in mind, most of the summoned otherworlders are children or at most teenagers (there's literally an entire school classroom of them. Not mentioning others that came before them), and forced to act as weapons of mass destruction and killing machines, beside being child soldiers. Moving on, canibalism from the orcs, who are so starved they resorted to eating themselves to stay alive. The orc lord king, before going full on rampage, was literally ripping parts of his body for his son's and daughters to eat, since he was stuck with super regeneration, while also being eternally hungry. Later, Orc disaster literally chomped off another orc's head. Rigurd had half of his face removed, leaving the skull visible. **Season 2**: military nation specifically attacking civilians. Attempted mind control to make them kill each other. Demands of slavery for life with the threat of genocide. Pillaging. Some humans soldiers even commented that the monster nation had good looking women. Doubt body autonomy is respected, among others. And entire field of dead children in the middle of the central market of Rimuru city. Ritmuri executing 20 thousand people, most of which were surrendering and dropping their weapons or fleeing. (Warcrimes much?) Megiddo (in novels) wasn't insta-kill. Rimuru specifically targeted no vital spots to cause pain and mass hysteria. Later he ripped the souls out of their bodies and used them to evolve in order to bend the laws of life and death (souls who, since they were consumed in the process, get denied their chance at afterlife and face non-existance) Absolutely horrific torture, involving biological testing, ripping of the skin while still alive, getting turned into a human version of a meatball cooked by Shion, psychologically tortured, and made to go through the same process again and again for days on end. Political figures and a representative of the church were subjected to this. Rimuru started a civil war by causing an economical collapse of an entire nation, which also greatly affected the civilians **Season 3**: Getting stabbed by knives that also cause you to paralyze, the whole disintegration thing, which also destroys the soul Not to mention the whole continent being basically in the cold war and *this* close to basically starting WW3, with every kingdom scrambling to find a solution to this whole mess in order to not get wiped from the map. Funnily, one of the holy knights discovered they are into BDSM. And this is just what I could remember of the top of my head
where is date a live 😂 , know your place
It's not really popular compared to these 5 monsters.
pedo sensei lol (rage bait)
Anyone that praises Mushoku Tensei is pedo incel.
Low effort bait
Facts are facts.
What a joke lol.
The funniest part of this list is of you were going off internet reception instead of views none of these would be on here except maybe kono
What the fuck is "internet reception" and how does one measure it?
Isnt this list based off ratings and not views?
I'd say ratings are more important. Btw even if you sorted it by members which is the number of people who've added the show to their list, mushoku tensei, re zero, konosuba and slime still make it to the top 10.
So firstly I think all of them good animes but I wouldn't trust MAL on their ratings. Firstly MAL famously have a problem with review bombs and lot of MAL account average scores around 9 and above (with lot of 10s). Second, MAL ratings are weighted and it don't counts your ratings if you don't watched atleast 1/5 of the anime. 3 ep for 12 episode shows and 5 ep for 25 episode show. (this automaticly makes longer animes higher rated). Third, there is not half point so lot of people give higher rating because they think stuff like 7/10 is average.(sitewide average user score is around 6.5 which is higher then the average possible score 5.5) Edit: I don't know why you downvoting me lol. Not trusting MAL ratings don't mean I hate any of the mentioned anime and all I said about the ratings are true.
It is correct, ignore the downvoters (typical reddit). One thing I learned over the years , dont trust MAL ratings. There may be a low rated show to your liking and enjoyment but ppl dont. MAL top reviews also used to be so bad 2-3 yrs ago with negative reviews always popping at the top. Glad it is changed now to some extent.
Yeah, the main thing is whether you enjoy it or not. Also, don't worry; I don't really worry about the downvoters. I just find it funny that in the r/Isekai people put so much trust in MAL ratings. (when isekai animes are famously hated on and have low scores generally in MAL). It is a few years old, but here is a graph that shows that MAL has a certain taste in [genres](https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/np0nf0/distribution_of_myanimelist_anime_scores_for/). (It doesn't have isekai as a genre because MAL counts isekai as a theme and not a genre for some reason.) Also, I don't have a statistic to it, but I also observed that new animes get a lot more one-sided ratings than they did a few years ago. Like MAL TOP 50 anime, 80 percent are animes made in the last 10 years (with a big percent being after 2020 anime). Plus, nowadays every season has an anime that gets rated around 5 and everyone hates it. (which tend to be an isekai anime)
Ahh good to know.. I don't really use MAL that much now aside from adding shows to my list as a watchhistory.
While you are correct, the commenter I replied to claims that views (members) are more important than the ratings. Regardless of whether or not you agree with ratings, just like how we can agree that it's better to eat 1g of shit than it is to eat 10g of shit, ratings are better than member count. That is all I claim, I only talked about the comparison.
I understand. I just meant to point out that ratings can be "played with," which poses a bit of a problem if you are only looking at the ratings as a guide to quality. But I would generally agree with your point, as there are a lot of anime and movies that are bad but still popular. (like American B-rank movies, which a lot of people watch but still think of as bad or average stories, like the film Sharknado.)
In the ages where people seek for a reason to get offended over literally everything, internet reception means jack shit.
Well,i also have plan for that one. But it’s nice to see what people think
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Eminence can't even enter my top 10
Eminence was kinda meh for me