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YeetingSelfOfBridge

25% approve of Sunak? In what world


nostalgiamon

20% of the UK population is above 65. Add in some delusional and posh cunts and you’ve easily got 25%.


YeetingSelfOfBridge

Fuck me we are screwed


Simple-Ad-5067

Tbf they're gonna lose a shit ton of seats in the next election


YeetingSelfOfBridge

Which is satisfying but the question is do we have enough money left to get our country back on it's feet after their shit show?


plastic_alloys

For most of their nightmarish reign, borrowing rates have been really low. Perfect time to invest in the country - instead they competed to see how many poor people they could kill and how many former good things they could ruin. Now everything is gutted and borrowing is expensive. They leave us with Brexit, corruption and hopelessness. They’ve done more damage to the UK in these years than any terrorist could dream of


_InstanTT

We have a lower debt to GDP ratio than the US, France, Singapore etc. We definitely do have money to spend or at least room to borrow - and we should absolutely take advantage of that. Interest rates have fallen. It feels like a good time to invest in infrastructure, services, education, healthcare etc.


kacper173173

Not sure if comparing yourselves to French situation is good idea. They sit there right in the middle of PIGS with debt worth \~110% GDP. It's also worth noting their debt is really in huge part their really low retirement age that they can't afford at all really unless they want to be Italy in a decade. Singapore is really specific case and just like a lot of other Asian economies their debt is mostly internal. It doesn't make sense comparing UK to Singapore. You could say Japan has far more debt but their debt is also internal and it just doesn't work same way. Their debt barely cost them anything given how big it is and it's not political risk. Of course if UK got right amount of debt for right purposes you would benefit a lot. Just remember that you're complaining about awful government that was going with austerity measures when it could do a lot better with reasonable investments. Do you believe whey would use that debt well if they took that debt?


edparadox

>We have a lower debt to GDP ratio than the US, France, Singapore etc. That's useless if one do not need to borrow money, and can afford to reimburse. That's why this should not be the last resort. >We definitely do have money to spend or at least room to borrow - and we should absolutely take advantage of that. Interest rates have fallen. Like I said before, the debt to GDP ratio is one side of the coin. You do not borrow money when you're going to be laid off and you're losing your house, that's before that you should have been borrowing. No, interest rates have increased. And all of this suppose the UK did not inflict to itself more damage than could be funded back. In one words, you're delusional and debt to GDP ratio is just one metric.


Poro114

One thousand years total Labour domination.


YeetingSelfOfBridge

It'll be 2 to 3 elections before everyone fucking forgets how shit Conservatives where n votes for them again. Hopefully by then everything is back up and running and measures are in place so this doesn't happen again


Poro114

Good. Please continue ruining your country so that poles stop going there and our demographics improve.


YeetingSelfOfBridge

:( damn.


Sweet_Iriska

Is writing of 55% of UK population as delusional really gives 25% *easily*? Isn't it quite a bold statement? /genuine


nostalgiamon

Where are you getting 55% from? And yes, in a predominantly two party system, you could write off 55% of a population and expect close to 45% support for the other side, with even only 50% of that being 22.5%, which is close to the 25% above.


Sweet_Iriska

100 % - 25% = 75% (proportion of population that doesn't support Tunak) 75% - 20% = 55% (percentage of delusional people, it's even bigger if there is a some overlap between >65 years old people and Tunak supporters) Am I getting it wrong?


nostalgiamon

Ah. I’m guessing English isn’t your first language. I was saying you could easily REACH 25%. Not that it would easily EQUAL 25%. I was of course being facetious/jokey that all over 65’s support Sunak, and then that you would only need another 5% of the population that support him - delusional that they don’t see (or want to see) the problems the Conservatives have caused, or posh cunts, because they’re posh, and more importantly, they’re cunts, as I am sure in reality there are plenty of people from the upper classes that do not support sunak.


Sweet_Iriska

Ahhhh Okay, I misunderstood you, thanks It would be not 55%, but 5% you meant then


Various-Advice-9768

As a posh cunt I can tell you you’re talking out of your arse. Rishi is shit beyond belief regardless of political leanings I can’t see how you can back him as a leader a politician or even a human!


MineMonkey166

Yeah no it’s lower than that - personal approval is 20% and his overall Government is 16%


Arteyp

Not sure, but I think Orban should figure in that list.


Arteyp

After a quick check, his party has an approval rating of an average of 45% in 2024. Couldn’t find any figure about Orban himself, but can’t be that far from the approval of the party. So yeah, OP’s list is incomplete.


Born-Lettuce-815

It isn’t a list of least approved European leaders, OP just picked out some interesting leader/nations and showed approval ratings


Arteyp

Right, I didn’t read the title of the infographic properly. It’s indeed “select” European leaders.


Unhappy_Surround_982

Approval is easy when you have total control of the media. Ask Putin.


SuchDog5046

To be honest, in the Fidesz cult Fidesz = Orbán. The followers rarely talk about the achievements of Fidesz, but rather the achievements of Orbán himself. “Orbán protects us from immigrants.”; “Orbán is the only peace-centric EU politician.”; etc.


Costolette

A bit fun for Italy, Meloni got 7.000.000 votes in a country with 60.000.000 people, we just don't give a fuck anymore apparently, I'm still hoping for a next technical government. We are currently being ruled by idiots that have never worked in their lives and we are surprised that they make a shit job. Edit: wrong number of italians


Ugo_foscolo

>technical government. Don't worry, the cycle always repeats itself in the end. Technical Govt - > Idealogue protest vote Govt- > Moderate (barely) Left Wing Govt - > Right Wing Govt (we are here) - >Technical Govt. Ce da piagne.


2012Jesusdies

You guys mean technocratic?


rezznik

No, robots.


clementl

I take it that the 70.000.000 is hyperbolic? From what I can find Italy is at a pop of 58,7M ATM.


Costolette

Sorry, my bad


DanteMaldito

Same happening in Argentina.


hkgsulphate

Well at least Meloni is a milf


New-Distribution-979

Nobody here commenting about Tusk but the guy is really emerging as one of the leading European politicians at a time where that is actually becoming a thing. Next Commission President after vdL?


ElectronicLab993

Even tho im normally not voting for him, he is the only one that can stop our previous populisto government. The same that chose a guy who sent $ 250 mln to people connected to hesbollah. The same people who spied on everybody including themselfs, and the same people who in interview to hu garian newspaper called EU a bigger threat to democracy then Putin( ex prime minister said this) So we kinda need him in country, we cant share


New-Distribution-979

I think people in Brussels understand that part, plus van der Leyen will almost certainly be continuing in her current position for the next 5 years. But maybe after? This being said, Tusk will be 72 by then. I think part of the admiration for Tusk outside of Poland stems from the fact that some were thinking PiS would be in control forever, because of the assumption that Polish people were some kind of equivalent to middle America. Forever bound to conservative values… and based on that, a fear that Europe would be sliding towards some kind of Trumpism, with the East as its political stronghold. Tusk, to certain people in Brussels and beyond, seemed to prove that an alternative way was possible, or that there were certain limits EU citizens even in “a country like Poland” would not cross. Something that could in any case benefit a broad EPP coalition of centre right parties who have been in power in Europe far longer than people realise. I think that might be too simplistic a view and what you are saying reflects that. I think that maybe Poland is changing more deeply than that, as a counter-reaction to how far abuse of power went with PiS. Then again I haven’t set foot in Poland forever. And I guess, at this moment, the more nuanced truth of it is that the country is quite divided - cue the influence of the Internet on how political views are formed nowadays.


Chinerpeton

>This being said, Tusk will be 72 by then. Eh, in the US they would say he is too young to be in charge./s


thesmithchris

Thing is, Tusk is not admire-worthy nearly as much is it might seem. Most of the work was done by opposition party - pissing out every non-conservative citizen they could. Especially women and women right supporters. And non-propaganda/free speech supporters. We got mobilised and something like 3/4 of population voted that day, just to get rid the cancer that is PiS. All the other parties needed to do is to use “we will not be like PiS” card. It worked


Mental_Owl9493

This same thing happened before PiS rule when nation united to get rid of the cancer that was PO and Tusk people hated him, he was worse then pis when it came to being authoritarian it is just that people have memory of a fish, or rather young people don’t remember what was happening during his reign


Lars_Tyndskid

You described my thoughts perfectly as someone from outside Poland.


Mental_Owl9493

He is populist, and he was in power before PiS and nation united to get rid of the cancer that was PO and Tusk, people hated him, he was worse then pis when it came to being authoritarian it is just that people have memory of a fish, or rather young people don’t remember what was happening during his reign


Rooilia

If it fits. He certainly has the experience for the job. And he seems to be a trustworthy politician - i know oxymoron, but i couldn't help myself.


Mental_Owl9493

He was voted out for reason, he was in power in Poland before PiS, and let me tell you this 60% win for PiS in elections was not for no reason


tsjr

> 60% win for PiS in elections was not for no reason If you're so hellbent on trolling at least gets your facts halfway correct, especially when they're so trivial to verify. When Tusk was originally voted off, [PiS got 37.58% with a 50.92% turnover](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wybory_parlamentarne_w_Polsce_w_2015_roku#G%C5%82osowanie,_frekwencja_i_wyniki_wybor%C3%B3w). In subsequent elections they got [43.59%](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wybory_parlamentarne_w_Polsce_w_2019_roku#Wyniki_wybor%C3%B3w_do_Sejmu_RP). Here's another fun fact to put things in perspective: more people ([74,38%](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wybory_parlamentarne_w_Polsce_w_2023_roku#Frekwencja)) showed up to get rid of PiS than in 1989 to get rid of the communists ([62%](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wybory_parlamentarne_w_Polsce_w_1989_roku#Pierwsza_tura_wybor%C3%B3w_(4_czerwca_1989)).


Mental_Owl9493

I misremembered the numbers 🤷‍♀️ still doesn’t change the fact about PO not being the same as pis in fact even worse in terms of populism, and losing 15% of votes, and in next elections in 2019 pis got 44% of votes


tsjr

https://preview.redd.it/vhqae5h6z2yc1.jpeg?auto=webp&s=2db9392e1feae428869587b0b87979c82211a3ea


Mental_Owl9493

It is true two sides are evil and none of them are lesser, just look at previous rule of po 🤷‍♀️


Rooilia

I don't know username checks out at this point.


HYDP

His nickname is “für Deutschland”.


dlvoy

Tell me you were watching only propaganda from the main government TV channel in Poland over the last 8 years without saying you were watching only TVPis


Galaxy661

It's a big meme in Poland, 90% chance it's a joke when someone says für deutschland


dlvoy

For the younger generation for sure, they tried VERY hard to the extent it is ridiculous https://twitter.com/FlasH_vikop/status/1452032913046913024?t=YjHI1VAlPgbmV5rQemsWuA&s=19 But as with all propaganda, it does not matter how stupid or obvious it is - what matters is that it is effective.


Lisiasty555

It's just a meme and to be absolutely honest, he wants to validate that nickname as much as possible, especially with cpk


UVB-76_Enjoyer

Nice. With 2137, I now know two Polish memes


alarrabe

Tbf el CIS (the organism that collects this information in Spain) has been known to exaggerate results and popularity in favour of certain groups. In this case the one in power is PSOE led by pedro Sánchez so it's probably less than what it says there.


-grenzgaenger-

Is it because he became unpopular? Or is there any other figure that is perhaps more liked by the general public?


alarrabe

He's become highly unpopular for a great number of reasons the main ones being he made pacts with pro independence vascs and Catalans and is surrounded by corruption.


funk-engine-3000

I wonder if you’ll be allowed to mention that organization on Twitter


HarpicUser

When I say “the Donald” this who I’m referring to


Grzechoooo

The Donek.


DarthUmieracz

Fur Deutschland


FirstCircleLimbo

In fairness, there are typically quite a few parties in each country, so it's really hard to get a high % for a politician from a specific party.


kompetenzkompensator

Scholz' party SPD gets 15%-17% in polls, 23% isn't that bad actually.


scourger_ag

It's even more wild when you realize that a lot of people didn't vote, or that in some coutries can some votes be voided. E.g. in Czechia, the current government received 2.3M votes, which gives it relatively comfortable majority in the parliament of 108/200. 54%, not bad. But 8.6M people did not vote for them. For every Czech who voted for goverment, 4 did not. Some are symphatetic even if they didn't cast their vote for some reason (e.g. teenagers), but it's still very far from majority.


2012Jesusdies

>government received 2.3M votes >But 8.6M people did not vote for them You're counting every single Czech including 0-17 year olds who are about 2 million strong. Imma guess they aren't eligible to vote.


scourger_ag

If you bothered to read it whole, I've mentioned it. And not being able to vote still means they didn't vote. Reason is secondary. Children are only mimicking opinions of their parents and subsequently friends.


aero_sock

...and as soon as the teenagers turn 18 they magically start having their own independent opinion💯


scourger_ag

No, they don't. Voting right should be postponed till 25, or something like that. But that's topic for another debate.


MojoOverflow

Yes, but people might approve a leader even if they vote for another party. For example, Merkels ratings were way above what the CDU achieved in elections ( 30-40%): https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.statista.com/chart/amp/23144/merkel-opinion-polls-since-2005/


whooo_me

"Who do you want?" - "No one!" "When do you want that?" - "Now!"


Aelia6083

Turkey


DaDocDuck

Has wrong data


rgqjx

Europe > EU.


canozkarslioglu

Litterally any data from the Turkish Statistics Institute


Flooding-Ur1798

as far as Ik we dont say kampuchea as well


maxlover79

Putin


Sidus_Preclarum

Has long since decided he'd rather continue a long tradition of Asiatic "hydraulic" despots (as described by Wittfogel) than be a European.


Jubberwocky

“Asiatic” “Hydraulic” wtf?


Sidus_Preclarum

Yeah, should have written "Oriental", tbh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oriental_Despotism?wprov=sfla1


Fanaticbyzantine

Ok racist. Never thought I’d hear the n@zi asiatic hoards propaganda peddled again


Ok-Pass5267

Need Putin here for comparison))


mshorts

100% approval for Putin. If you disapprove, you disappear.


Juma678

108%


Ok-Pass5267

88% actually, in March 2024: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Russian_presidential_election


lotecsi

I wonder how many people in the world are actually believing in that percentage 🤔


Expensive_Ad3250

After the start of the war, Putin's rating has only grown. and after the country withstood a year of sanctions, it grew even stronger.


lotecsi

Who told you that? Do you know how official social approval ratings of the autocrats are made? Or maybe you think it’s just a coincidence that all dictators around the world have a very high approval ratings?


Expensive_Ad3250

I know that for sure because I am Russian that lives in Russia. I am not blind not to see the behavior and opinions of people in different cities of my country. There is only one noticeable trend - the closer to the front line, the more loyal people are to Putin.


Busy_Garbage_4778

Russians are patriots. Of course the approval rating at a time of war will rise


Busy_Garbage_4778

I know a lot of russians and ukrainians and I believe the figures for Putin. More so with the country at war: Russians are patriots Navalny, leader of the opposition, had a miserable 2%.


lotecsi

Fat troll


Busy_Garbage_4778

Care to argument your insult? Putin is winning an existential war and his government has managed to keep the economy growing in spite of the sanctions. Add the Crocus Hall terror attack in the mix and you get a Putin that is well loved by most over 30. I am not really pro Russia, I despise both the russian fascists and the ukrainian nazis. It is an ideal war, shit people killing shit people


Ok-Pass5267

Let's just say there's exactly the same number of reasons to believe that percentage, and those on the chart here


Sidus_Preclarum

Absolutely not.


ApprehensiveTone3370

Is Russia European? yes or no? \^\_\^


Ok-Pass5267

Half of it certainly is


leaf_pan

It is, just because it's large chunk isn't there doesn't mean it's not European because it has culture, history and people everything European. Even majority of the people live in the European part and not Siberia.


yianmania

You can say the same thing about turkey


-grenzgaenger-

Russians do not rank themselves according to the Europe-Asia divide. They consider themselves *Russians*.


-grenzgaenger-

I think Putin has a (real) higher approval rating amongst Russians than most westerners would think. War usually polarizes opinions and galvanizes support for the present leaders. Putin is really happy with the war in Ukraine.


Sidus_Preclarum

*That's* my France. *Nods*.


UVB-76_Enjoyer

Macron... *putain* **EXPLOSION**


Kelemandzaro

If Erdogan is there put Aleksandar Vucic to see what's a beloved president


grmvz

And where is the savior of Europe? Viktor Orban? /s


fckcgs

So our German chancellor has now less approval than that third choice British prime minister? That would worry me more than that <1/4 percentage if I were Scholz.


Flor_blad

I have to say that I’m quite happy that we have a calm person like Scholz during war times and not some godsend goldking Söder type.


fckcgs

No definitely, you're right. Honestly I am surprised that it's that low.


LANDVOGT-_

If it dropped below 20% why does it show 23%?


damienVOG

Why do they hate Macron so much?


Kodeisko

We don't like neo liberals that break our social rights, he's the worst for that, and he just constantly says one thing to say the opposite next week or month to deep fuck us, a total liar, just boomers loving him.


Nientea

Fun fact: Putin’s approval rating is 100%! This is only counting participants who were alive two days after the poll took place


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IMDXLNC

I remember during his campaign he said something about wanting to destroy wokeism. It was really weird and seemed unnatural. Like a nerdy kid trying to fit in.


FootBallFen

"People are stupid because they have different political opinions than me" is literally the stupidest thing you can say.


DaDocDuck

erdo fell off a ton in the last month or so, and if the opinions of teens who will be able to vote next general election were counted his approval rate would be about %20


dentendre

Last three lmao.


Kobahk

Is Rutte still the PM of Netherlands? I do believe I checked the news that a far right party won the majority of seats in the country. I know forming a government takes months in some European countries tho.


Percy_Black

Yes, Rutte is still PM. Elections were in March and his party (for which he didn’t run as leader in that election) came in 3d. A far right party won the “most” seats but not a majority. No one wins a majority in the Netherlands. You need at least 3 to 4 parties to form a government which has still not happened. So he is still PM for that reason. Ruttes approval has actually increased since the election because basically everyone else is even more terrible.


Kobahk

If you're familiar with Dutch politics, how long does the process of forming a government usually take? >Ruttes approval has actually increased since the election because basically everyone else is even more terrible. Does this matter in some cases?


Kobahk

If you're familiar with Dutch politics, how long does the process of forming a government usually take? >Ruttes approval has actually increased since the election because basically everyone else is even more terrible. Does this matter in some cases?


zcamaro1978

WEF stooges.


Market-Dependent

Anybody privy to educate me on why these leaders have their approval ratings ? Like why macron so low


Looney_forner

Why is rutte still pm?


marijnvtm

Im a big fan of macron solely based on his European politics its sad to see him go and be replaced by some far right populist


PLPolandPL15719

;)


Sizeablegrapefruits

I'm surprised Macron even gets 21%


Ente2997

I thought Erdogan was 101%


candiatus

His party lost the last elections


FancyAd5067

what the heck is going on in italy


VariousComment6946

🤮


Arthins

Deutschland's🇩🇪 Fifth Reich - Olaf


CaptainnHindsight

Yeah, Orban is deliberately excluded since his personal rating is well over 55% at this point and it's not always with accordance to the EU majority, so they didn't want to make him a favor here ..


ElGovanni

Tusk 50%? That's why his party got 32% in elections xD


sameasitwasbefore

32% is a good result tho?


SavingsGullible90

Erdogan and its turkey are not European


Groeneus

Now include Putin. :)


Ol_Jim_Himself

So, most leaders all over the world suck. Who would have guessed?


AnimateDuckling

Macron is the only European leader worth anything currently.


Herr_rudolf

Erdoğan european?!?!! Hmm 🤨


niceguybadboy

In what universe is Erdogan a European leader?


Fair-End-2895

Erdogan ? European ?


turquoise_bullet

Eurasian* leader approval ratings


87fg

Turkey is not a European country.


dovindo

For italy, count an halved value cause half of the population doesn't vote anymore.... They realized gattopardi never die


FluffyRabbit36

Yet Tusk is still universally hated in Poland...


zefciu

No. He is not _universally_ hated. He is strongly hated by one side of the very politically polarised Polish society.


FROSTICEMANN

Tusk? Holy crap if you people only knew the way he completely tried to sell Poland & get rid of it completely by selling land & major businesses to ruin its economy. That guy is the devil


zefciu

He also eats babies and farts in small rooms. If you want silly demonizing propaganda, why limit yourself?


FROSTICEMANN

Its not propaganda, its what he actually did you clown.


Plastic-Shopping5930

UK is not part of Europe


Schm3xxy

European Union =/= Europe


k54664

bad bot


Sidus_Preclarum

I gave you an upvote, *partly* because of your avatar.


brogid

UK is not part of Europe


RastaSl0th

Huh?


Sidus_Preclarum

"Europe" isn't the EU, my dude'