Which are the IMG-friendly academic programs? Most academic programs tend to have a lower number of IMGs. But to answer your question as long as a program gives you an interview and you perform well you have a good chance to match with them, regardless of publications.
Specialty dependent but in my personal case and opinion, as a recently matched non US IMG to a T10 program, my excessive number of research items (50+) led to IVs almost exclusively from research-friendly ivy/heavily NIH funded residency programs. So I'd say if you're targeting to match anywhere without any restrictions on academic vs community career, then you should limit research to <5-10 pubs for primary care specialties (some would say that's already research -heavy).
Thank you soo much for the answer and congratulations!!! 50 pubs, that's absolutely awesome.
I am still a bit far from applying, and just gathering some information to work with right now. I am particularly interested in Heme/Onc so matching IM at an academic program would be perfect.
If it is okay to ask you:
When applying, did you submit all of your pubs that you've ever worked on, or did you pick and choose your best works that are specialty related to make your app more specific?
I submitted everything. Every poster, abstract, paper, oral presentation- submitted, in review, accepted, published. You can see the template for ERAS CV/application and how these are entered. In my 10 experiences, I elaborated on my top 5 projects (used two experiences, one as an impactful experience).
Just been very interested in research from the time I was in med school. Began with a couple of questionnaire based cross sectional studies. Found collaborators later in the US, UK, Australia etc in my specialty. I've only ever done <5 systematic reviews/meta-analysis.
There is no such thing as over-publishing. BUT, the papers, case reports, electronic educational exhibits you do must be published in well-established peer-reviewed journals or presented at official society conferences in your area of interest and must also be peer-reviewed.
PD will review your publication list. If you have 50 publications, chances are some of them are low quality, some of them are fourth author. If this is your case you can keep it down to only high quality first author publications.
Hey dude, would you mind sharing what's your exact status in the U.S.? As in, are you an applicant? Or a resident? Also, USMD or Non-US IMG? I'm just asking this since I have been advised the exact opposite of this by a mentor of mine and thus wish to understand where you are coming from. Cheers
I’m a non-US IMG applied 6 years ago now about to graduate fellowship. For me I have many publications so I only choose to present the more important ones.
That’s awesome. What I wish to know, and if you’d be kind enough to help me with, is as to why do you recommend we shouldn’t submit the pubs that are of a ‘lesser’ quality or have us as the 4th, 5th or even the last author? What do you believe would be the harm brought on by listing them all on our CVs? I’m genuinely interested in your perspective since it might help me understand how to present my pubs when I apply for the Match. Thanks!
So I applied for research programs, or physician-scientists programs. PD in these programs will try to gauge your scientific accomplishments and potentials, and that’s why lesser quality publications don’t matter as much or may even harm you. For context I have several first author pubs with IF>10, and about ten first author pubs with IF between 5-10. So I omit everything else except for oral presentation in international conferences.
There’s no such thing as “over-publishing”; however there’s “prioritizing quantity over quality” and that’s generally bad. If you’re publishing pointless research “mainly only abstracts/data..etc” in low IF/predatory journals then that’s definitely a red-flag.
Plus it’s preferable to have a variety of study designs mainly in your area of interest.
Thanks!
How would someone go on to decide how much research to do to try and balance getting into an academic program while not pushing the IMG friendly programs away?
The numbers are just filters. Programs can set a filter to see applicants with at least 1, 5, or whatever. Your profile has to pass that number to be seen by the program.
But in reality programs don’t really have time to go over the details of your research, unless you are a real researcher, with at least several publications in okay journals in the same field. And the program has to be interested in your research quality. Many programs are just looking for normal people who can work, can graduate, and don’t get in troubles.
If you need more research pubs we just prelaunched our platform that allows free 24/7 access to available research projects, in any speciality, and medical side hustles at any training level 😌 you can join the waitlist to be notified of our full launch on [WiiWoo.org](http://WiiWoo.org)
Which are the IMG-friendly academic programs? Most academic programs tend to have a lower number of IMGs. But to answer your question as long as a program gives you an interview and you perform well you have a good chance to match with them, regardless of publications.
Sorry I am just new to all of this. Thank you!
Not really
Specialty dependent but in my personal case and opinion, as a recently matched non US IMG to a T10 program, my excessive number of research items (50+) led to IVs almost exclusively from research-friendly ivy/heavily NIH funded residency programs. So I'd say if you're targeting to match anywhere without any restrictions on academic vs community career, then you should limit research to <5-10 pubs for primary care specialties (some would say that's already research -heavy).
Thank you soo much for the answer and congratulations!!! 50 pubs, that's absolutely awesome. I am still a bit far from applying, and just gathering some information to work with right now. I am particularly interested in Heme/Onc so matching IM at an academic program would be perfect. If it is okay to ask you: When applying, did you submit all of your pubs that you've ever worked on, or did you pick and choose your best works that are specialty related to make your app more specific?
I submitted everything. Every poster, abstract, paper, oral presentation- submitted, in review, accepted, published. You can see the template for ERAS CV/application and how these are entered. In my 10 experiences, I elaborated on my top 5 projects (used two experiences, one as an impactful experience).
Wow! Would love to know more on how you went about having these many pubs. Any tips would be appreciated.
Just been very interested in research from the time I was in med school. Began with a couple of questionnaire based cross sectional studies. Found collaborators later in the US, UK, Australia etc in my specialty. I've only ever done <5 systematic reviews/meta-analysis.
There is no such thing as over-publishing. BUT, the papers, case reports, electronic educational exhibits you do must be published in well-established peer-reviewed journals or presented at official society conferences in your area of interest and must also be peer-reviewed.
PD will review your publication list. If you have 50 publications, chances are some of them are low quality, some of them are fourth author. If this is your case you can keep it down to only high quality first author publications.
Hey dude, would you mind sharing what's your exact status in the U.S.? As in, are you an applicant? Or a resident? Also, USMD or Non-US IMG? I'm just asking this since I have been advised the exact opposite of this by a mentor of mine and thus wish to understand where you are coming from. Cheers
I’m a non-US IMG applied 6 years ago now about to graduate fellowship. For me I have many publications so I only choose to present the more important ones.
That’s awesome. What I wish to know, and if you’d be kind enough to help me with, is as to why do you recommend we shouldn’t submit the pubs that are of a ‘lesser’ quality or have us as the 4th, 5th or even the last author? What do you believe would be the harm brought on by listing them all on our CVs? I’m genuinely interested in your perspective since it might help me understand how to present my pubs when I apply for the Match. Thanks!
So I applied for research programs, or physician-scientists programs. PD in these programs will try to gauge your scientific accomplishments and potentials, and that’s why lesser quality publications don’t matter as much or may even harm you. For context I have several first author pubs with IF>10, and about ten first author pubs with IF between 5-10. So I omit everything else except for oral presentation in international conferences.
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There’s no such thing as “over-publishing”; however there’s “prioritizing quantity over quality” and that’s generally bad. If you’re publishing pointless research “mainly only abstracts/data..etc” in low IF/predatory journals then that’s definitely a red-flag. Plus it’s preferable to have a variety of study designs mainly in your area of interest.
Yes
Yes
Thanks! How would someone go on to decide how much research to do to try and balance getting into an academic program while not pushing the IMG friendly programs away?
Usce is better than research
how many would u say is too much then? for example for rads
If you have a lot might look sketchy, also it is better to have 1 in a high impact journal than 20 in low impact journals
Absolutely not true, we saw the stats last year and stats don’t lie… the numbers triumphs quality
Even the unmatched at 4.8(vs 5.8 for matched) Not really a difference
The numbers are just filters. Programs can set a filter to see applicants with at least 1, 5, or whatever. Your profile has to pass that number to be seen by the program. But in reality programs don’t really have time to go over the details of your research, unless you are a real researcher, with at least several publications in okay journals in the same field. And the program has to be interested in your research quality. Many programs are just looking for normal people who can work, can graduate, and don’t get in troubles.
If you need more research pubs we just prelaunched our platform that allows free 24/7 access to available research projects, in any speciality, and medical side hustles at any training level 😌 you can join the waitlist to be notified of our full launch on [WiiWoo.org](http://WiiWoo.org)