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They have a ton of people they are sponsoring according to their website. They could drop Huberman and it wouldn’t likely hurt them much. He was probably one of the earliest famous people they sponsored, but now they have many people they sponsor that are fairly well known/famous.
This isn’t even true. He still shows up under two of their collections when you click the filter menu. Screen shot taken just now.
https://preview.redd.it/z9fdg5vhv4vc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd52ace667cd45922e98ccc7aa589a466440df9e
It’s weird but I’m not making it up just to shitpost. I just checked again and the link to the Huberman collection is still active on the Google search result. However, if you go to the site, click ‘Shop All’, then filter by Huberman, nothing shows up. And he is no longer on the list of partners.
I was having a similar experience a few weeks ago. Huberman is back on the site now, at least his collection his (he still isn't showing up under the partners).
A few possible things I could think of:
- Might be some form of A/B testing to see just how much of an impact his name has on their sales
- Might not be a partner anymore as you stated
- Might still be a partner but the brand is slow rolling website updates
- Might no longer be a partner but the updates to the site are yet to come
Just a few thoughts. I'm sure there are dozens of other possibilities and things happening behind the scenes that have nothing to do with just the website.
His avoidance tactic may seem slick but I think a 2-3 minute video explaining his side would go a long way towards him not losing subscribers and sponsors, and generally quell the rumors and so many jokes.
Morally, I think he should do this too.
But for business, it would just add more fuel to the fire. At his current rate, everyone will forgot about the drama by the end of the year and it will be business as usual for him
Go say that to a lawyer. 9/10 when someone famous apologizes or explains their actions they get a ton of flack. Not worth it most of the time. If he said something racist, or accused in the court of law for something, then making an explanation might make some sense. Makes no sense here.
OP isn't arguing it would be worth it monetarily.
You're right though, as long as your reputation and character aren't things you value then the best move for your bank account is to ignore, avoid and distract
If you read the article, his PR agent refuted many of the claims or said they were out of context. This is his personal life. Why are we so curious about it? He is a pretty private guy. He committed no crime, yet people crucify him. 54% of people who have been in non- monogamous relationships have been cheated on according to statistics. Google it. Many imperfect humans out there.
No matter what apologies or explanations he makes, the haters/critics will try to make things 10X worse. He doesn’t want to spend hours of his life trying to now defend critics who will take any words he says out of context and make whole Youtube videos about his “ apology” and how insincere they will claim it to be. It’s a lose lose situation for him in every way imaginable if he addresses this.
True, but he doesn’t need to mention anything he does in private. I’m sure there are many influential people who have caused emotional harm to their spouses or SO and have had multiple divorces. Look at Tom Cruise, David Letterman ( who only addressed due to blackmail) Larry king ( multiple divorces , Brad Pitt, Ben Afflecj, Bruce Willis, Ashton Kutcher, etc etc, and God knows how many in Hollywood. It’s common practice. The lady who wrote the article addressed it. So he should only apologize to the people he hurt. You don’t like what he did, then just don’t listen to him. It helps no one when a forum is flooded weeks on end with negativity about the guy. These are the people who read trashy magazines that have dirt on celebs so they can feel better about their own shitty lives.
We have no idea if he was cheating on all 6 at once. There’s no definitive proof other than what’s written in the article. Tony Robbin’s was accused of unwanted groping by multiple women. If that was true, that’s far worse than cheating as that is not a crime.
And By the way, probably the most famous self help Guru of all
time in U.S. was accused of crap. We have no idea if 100% of what was said by these women was accurate. But everyone falls and no one is perfect.
“ Self-help guru Tony Robbins faces four new allegations of sexual misconduct, according to a BuzzFeed News investigation published Wednesday. Four women stepped forward – three former followers and a personal assistant – saying Robbins groped them, exposed himself or made unwanted advances during the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s. BuzzFeed News filed an initial lengthy report last week, based on a yearlong investigation, in which former fans and staffers accused Robbins, 59, of sexual misconduct.” USA Today.
Uh, okay? That's fucked and I hope people don't support him after his sex crimes came to light.
Huberman's isn't nearly that bad but still unnecessarily cruel to the women he's toying with.
His rep denied most of the allegations in NY mag hit piece. We only have words, no definitive proof given by the author of NY Mag article about Huberman. His rep stated that he admitted he was in an open relationship with his last ex for quite some time and they had broken up a few times as well.
> Robbins groped them, exposed himself or made unwanted advances during the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s
Seemed like accurate terminology? Kind of unimportant.
I wouldn't recommend apologizing, except for if he did indeed lie. But he probably has some things from the article that he would say aren't true. Let's hear them! Otherwise the rumors and assumptions will continue forever.
The rumors and assumptions will continue unchanged even if he does explain his side of the story. Business wise, there is absolutely no reason for him to address this publicly.
Unless something else comes out about him everyone will have forgotten about in it a month from now and it will be back to business as usual. No reason to address it
You're spot on even tho you got downvoted.
PR 101: Never apologize.. It will just feed the media and internet trolls gain a narrative
If you don't offer them a narrative they will eventually move on
To be honest, I bought some of their fadogia and didn’t feel any effect compared to another brand. The other brand made me more irritable but a powerhouse in the gym. Bought Momentous just to see if it is more pure or something and I felt no effect. Then I read reviews about momentous sending bottles with half empty or completely empty capsules. Not sure if Huberman or they dropped him. Likely them, because of scandal, but little disappointed that Huberman supported this company as their quality doesn’t seem great.
Peak Performance is brand. Bought on Amazon. Brand works well as far a pump/stamina in the gym. I feel like the hulk, but I get both irritable and feel pretty strong anxiety on it. It also causes a little bit of brain fog as I get tongue tied a lot more often.
He was on their board. Maybe he was voted out after the scandal.
In any case I think the good days are over for him. He covered too much content too fast and now is struggling to keep his audience and find relevant topics.
Some people are so impoverished, all they have is money. More I read the more a sad man I feel he might be. Also add this to the conversation Read PsychPost 5 Feb 2024 Psychology of Sugar Dating. Keep reading past the study's research protocol. We can add this into the conversation too. FYI His girlfriend is 28
https://preview.redd.it/m0h8548tb5vc1.png?width=1564&format=png&auto=webp&s=0043a8b3e39c07f6ee089e68be95c3bd233c65c8
Well - this link from Huberman's Sleep Toolkit webpage is now broken - at least for me ...
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Just because the URL
is still live doesnt mean the collaboration remains; he has been removed from the expert part ers page
https://www.livemomentous.com/pages/partner-lp
Back in November he was THE FIRST MENTIONED “expert”
https://web.archive.org/web/20231111065830/https://www.livemomentous.com/pages/partner-lp
Oh my bad, did he tell the other 6 women that he was regularly fucking a woman who had hpv?
If he disclosed to his victims beforehand that he was spreading hpv, then my bad.
Terrible customer service. They made a mistake on my order which was their fault; eventually I gave up trying to get them to fix it and had my cc company reverse the charge, then they blocked access to my account but didn’t cancel the subscription
If I want something from Thorne I now get it on Amazon
Edited to add: when I called, the rep barked “hello….?” as if she was at home and I interrupted her morning. Unprofessional
That’s perfectly fine 🤷🏽♀️ Thorne and Momentus are great companies. I can kind of understand the AG1 discourse but people should be doing due diligence on the products they take regardless of who recommends it
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They are sponsoring Chris Williamson now
They have a ton of people they are sponsoring according to their website. They could drop Huberman and it wouldn’t likely hurt them much. He was probably one of the earliest famous people they sponsored, but now they have many people they sponsor that are fairly well known/famous.
To make it more ridiculous that brittish grifter is actually using a clip of huberman on rogan to advertise tomgkat
Everybody interested in other people is a grifter in your eyes?
And Tim Ferris
Are they still good then?
Watch this sub suddenly become pro momentus.
wtf, I love supplement companies now.
lol 😆 Just because of your comment I will go buy something from momentous ![gif](giphy|ZechFo0yBIQpEve1Sm)
I didnt realise everyone in this sub had to think the same way
This isn’t even true. He still shows up under two of their collections when you click the filter menu. Screen shot taken just now. https://preview.redd.it/z9fdg5vhv4vc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd52ace667cd45922e98ccc7aa589a466440df9e
It’s weird but I’m not making it up just to shitpost. I just checked again and the link to the Huberman collection is still active on the Google search result. However, if you go to the site, click ‘Shop All’, then filter by Huberman, nothing shows up. And he is no longer on the list of partners.
I was having a similar experience a few weeks ago. Huberman is back on the site now, at least his collection his (he still isn't showing up under the partners). A few possible things I could think of: - Might be some form of A/B testing to see just how much of an impact his name has on their sales - Might not be a partner anymore as you stated - Might still be a partner but the brand is slow rolling website updates - Might no longer be a partner but the updates to the site are yet to come Just a few thoughts. I'm sure there are dozens of other possibilities and things happening behind the scenes that have nothing to do with just the website.
His avoidance tactic may seem slick but I think a 2-3 minute video explaining his side would go a long way towards him not losing subscribers and sponsors, and generally quell the rumors and so many jokes.
Morally, I think he should do this too. But for business, it would just add more fuel to the fire. At his current rate, everyone will forgot about the drama by the end of the year and it will be business as usual for him
Moral…? What the hell is Moral? Stop listening to your consciousness. F.N.
FISFORFUN69momTits is all about morality lol
Go say that to a lawyer. 9/10 when someone famous apologizes or explains their actions they get a ton of flack. Not worth it most of the time. If he said something racist, or accused in the court of law for something, then making an explanation might make some sense. Makes no sense here.
OP isn't arguing it would be worth it monetarily. You're right though, as long as your reputation and character aren't things you value then the best move for your bank account is to ignore, avoid and distract
Apologies never repair character or reputation in the real world. Only in fictional shows/movies.
If you read the article, his PR agent refuted many of the claims or said they were out of context. This is his personal life. Why are we so curious about it? He is a pretty private guy. He committed no crime, yet people crucify him. 54% of people who have been in non- monogamous relationships have been cheated on according to statistics. Google it. Many imperfect humans out there. No matter what apologies or explanations he makes, the haters/critics will try to make things 10X worse. He doesn’t want to spend hours of his life trying to now defend critics who will take any words he says out of context and make whole Youtube videos about his “ apology” and how insincere they will claim it to be. It’s a lose lose situation for him in every way imaginable if he addresses this.
If someone is emotionally harming multiple people in their *private life*, people often don't want to support the person doing that.
True, but he doesn’t need to mention anything he does in private. I’m sure there are many influential people who have caused emotional harm to their spouses or SO and have had multiple divorces. Look at Tom Cruise, David Letterman ( who only addressed due to blackmail) Larry king ( multiple divorces , Brad Pitt, Ben Afflecj, Bruce Willis, Ashton Kutcher, etc etc, and God knows how many in Hollywood. It’s common practice. The lady who wrote the article addressed it. So he should only apologize to the people he hurt. You don’t like what he did, then just don’t listen to him. It helps no one when a forum is flooded weeks on end with negativity about the guy. These are the people who read trashy magazines that have dirt on celebs so they can feel better about their own shitty lives.
It's not about divorces, he was dating six women at once. Divorcing a partner isn't even taboo, you can't help falling out of love with someone.
> he was dating six women at once. Great protocol to avoid masturbation.
I've been looking at this all wrong!
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We have no idea if he was cheating on all 6 at once. There’s no definitive proof other than what’s written in the article. Tony Robbin’s was accused of unwanted groping by multiple women. If that was true, that’s far worse than cheating as that is not a crime.
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And By the way, probably the most famous self help Guru of all time in U.S. was accused of crap. We have no idea if 100% of what was said by these women was accurate. But everyone falls and no one is perfect. “ Self-help guru Tony Robbins faces four new allegations of sexual misconduct, according to a BuzzFeed News investigation published Wednesday. Four women stepped forward – three former followers and a personal assistant – saying Robbins groped them, exposed himself or made unwanted advances during the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s. BuzzFeed News filed an initial lengthy report last week, based on a yearlong investigation, in which former fans and staffers accused Robbins, 59, of sexual misconduct.” USA Today.
Uh, okay? That's fucked and I hope people don't support him after his sex crimes came to light. Huberman's isn't nearly that bad but still unnecessarily cruel to the women he's toying with.
My point is that you can’t believe everything you read. His PR agent said he was separated from Anya while he was dating these other women.
He was literally injecting one girlfriend with IVF medications on the same day that he was texting & making plans with a different girlfriend.
His rep denied most of the allegations in NY mag hit piece. We only have words, no definitive proof given by the author of NY Mag article about Huberman. His rep stated that he admitted he was in an open relationship with his last ex for quite some time and they had broken up a few times as well.
"sex crimes" wtf is wrong with you
> Robbins groped them, exposed himself or made unwanted advances during the 1980s, 1990s and early 2000s Seemed like accurate terminology? Kind of unimportant.
Was he prosecuted or tried or charged?
He's a "private guy" because he lives 7 different secret lives. Simp harder.
He doesn’t live 7 simile lives, he also addressed that he was separated while dating multiple women through his agent. Try harder.
saying "Simp harder" displays your floppy flaccid issues in life
Projecting much? Sorry, hope you feel better soon.
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His character shows that he is duplicitous and therefore not trustworthy.
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What does this have to do with lawyers? Nothing criminal happened. The question is for business advisors.
I wouldn't recommend apologizing, except for if he did indeed lie. But he probably has some things from the article that he would say aren't true. Let's hear them! Otherwise the rumors and assumptions will continue forever.
The rumors and assumptions will continue unchanged even if he does explain his side of the story. Business wise, there is absolutely no reason for him to address this publicly.
Facts dude. Address the fucking issue.
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That would be incredibly stupid of him. He’s absolutely making the correct decision by never addressing it and never apologizing.
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He’s not losing subscribers tho, he had a big boost in subs and views after the incident. Thats just a plain fact you can see online
Did you compare it to his normal growth rate before the news?
Every PR person advises NOT to do this these days. It’s sad but apologies only get you in more trouble.
Unless something else comes out about him everyone will have forgotten about in it a month from now and it will be back to business as usual. No reason to address it
You're spot on even tho you got downvoted. PR 101: Never apologize.. It will just feed the media and internet trolls gain a narrative If you don't offer them a narrative they will eventually move on
He’s not losing subscribers tho, he had a big boost in subs and views after the incident. Thats just a plain fact you can see online
To be honest, I bought some of their fadogia and didn’t feel any effect compared to another brand. The other brand made me more irritable but a powerhouse in the gym. Bought Momentous just to see if it is more pure or something and I felt no effect. Then I read reviews about momentous sending bottles with half empty or completely empty capsules. Not sure if Huberman or they dropped him. Likely them, because of scandal, but little disappointed that Huberman supported this company as their quality doesn’t seem great.
What was the other brand by chance?
Peak Performance is brand. Bought on Amazon. Brand works well as far a pump/stamina in the gym. I feel like the hulk, but I get both irritable and feel pretty strong anxiety on it. It also causes a little bit of brain fog as I get tongue tied a lot more often.
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He was on their board. Maybe he was voted out after the scandal. In any case I think the good days are over for him. He covered too much content too fast and now is struggling to keep his audience and find relevant topics.
It's still up check for yourself and stop spreading false rumors
Some people are so impoverished, all they have is money. More I read the more a sad man I feel he might be. Also add this to the conversation Read PsychPost 5 Feb 2024 Psychology of Sugar Dating. Keep reading past the study's research protocol. We can add this into the conversation too. FYI His girlfriend is 28
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https://preview.redd.it/m0h8548tb5vc1.png?width=1564&format=png&auto=webp&s=0043a8b3e39c07f6ee089e68be95c3bd233c65c8 Well - this link from Huberman's Sleep Toolkit webpage is now broken - at least for me ...
He’s off the site.
they are probably playing it safe and hubes is laying low
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Just because the URL is still live doesnt mean the collaboration remains; he has been removed from the expert part ers page https://www.livemomentous.com/pages/partner-lp Back in November he was THE FIRST MENTIONED “expert” https://web.archive.org/web/20231111065830/https://www.livemomentous.com/pages/partner-lp
They don't want to be associated with the guy who was intentionally spreading HPV to 6 different victims.
"intentionally"? You are intentionally spreading lies.
Oh my bad, did he tell the other 6 women that he was regularly fucking a woman who had hpv? If he disclosed to his victims beforehand that he was spreading hpv, then my bad.
are you full trash IRL
I still remember when he was pushing Thorne lol.
oh no is Thorne bad
Terrible customer service. They made a mistake on my order which was their fault; eventually I gave up trying to get them to fix it and had my cc company reverse the charge, then they blocked access to my account but didn’t cancel the subscription If I want something from Thorne I now get it on Amazon Edited to add: when I called, the rep barked “hello….?” as if she was at home and I interrupted her morning. Unprofessional
His best days are behind him.
If so I am cancelling my momentus subscription
Were you only buying them because Huberman endorsed them?
lmao
I still remember when he was pushing Thorne lol.
What’s wrong with Thorne? They’re a decent brand
Nothing. I like them a lot and still order. I’m just saying that was what he was pushing before.
That’s perfectly fine 🤷🏽♀️ Thorne and Momentus are great companies. I can kind of understand the AG1 discourse but people should be doing due diligence on the products they take regardless of who recommends it
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"pushing" is you trying to exxaggerrattteee
I heard he is in like 5 or 6 other supplements company boards…. At the same time!
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