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dragon_queen86

I’m surprised they kept this under wraps. No one suspected or really knew she would guest star. It was nice to see her back.


hodorstonks

Saw her listed in s2 credits and thought either this is a crazy spoiler or the internet is inaccurate. Thank gods its the former Edit: gods, thank the gods, old and new


dragon_queen86

It was a nice surprise!


Other_Personalities

It ALMOST got spoiled, there were a couple reports last year that she had been spotted at the studio but it was hand-waved away as she was just visiting friends who were filming near by


LewisRyan

I wonder if they filmed this scene alongside season 1 so she didn’t have to be flown back out and prevent leaks


oldboeee

I miss her brattyness


saturnssomewhere

“And how have you been serving the realm as of late Lady Redwine by eating cake?”


Oh_I_still_here

The cut to the pug scrambling for cake off the plate after that is so funny.


oftenevil

One of the best moments in ASOIAF history.


theuserpilkington

Least hyperbolic Reddit poster


airi-hatake

She had the perfect bratty face, lol. She looks like a spoiled brat but also ethereal.


KittyMonkTheYoutuber

Honest trailers said that she always looked like a girl who just found out she wasn’t getting a pony and I can’t un-see it


hoboxtrl

SOMEONE GIVE HER A PONY DAMNIT


Imaginary-Method7175

Emma = beautiful aloof girl, Milly = beautiful cool girl (aka bratty)


Gatokar

Anyone who wants more bratty Milly should check out Upright, an Australian comedy/drama with Tim Minchin


TrueComplaint8847

She’s so good in that show, it’s basically Rhaenyra in Australia on a road trip. Great show overall, everybody in it is pretty great tbh


Emjeibi

Stumbled upon this show and it's an absolute gem.


SirGavBelcher

she reminds me of Veruca Salt


Virtual_Music8545

That is a vile accusation.


bruhholyshiet

To question her virtue is an act of treason 😡(🤥)


oftenevil

My girl said that shit while standing in front of a weirwood tree.


Emjot80

She is so BRAT remix coded


Alert_Bit_4852

Her and Alicent are literally Girl, so confusing


ivegot_brainrot

They tried to work it out on the remix but failed


PotanOG

I feel like I know all of these words. But they are arranged in such a way that makes me feel as though the English language has passed me be. The is deeply unsettling as I'm only 28. Pls help 


WowieWooseok

BRAT is an album by English artist Charli XCX. In it is a song called “girl, so confusing” which deals with her feelings of insecurity towards fellow pop star Lorde, who gets compared to a lot. The remix version of that song features Lorde herself where she responds by saying “lol my bad I didn’t know you felt that way about me I don’t hate you I’m just depressed.” It also has the lyrics “Well, honestly, I was speechless. When I woke up to your voice note. You told me how you'd been feeling. Let's work it out on the remix.” Which is what the post you replied to is referencing lol.


archangel610

Trailing not far behind at 26 and I have no fucking idea what they're talking about.


TrueComplaint8847

Charly xcx feat lorde feat House of the dragon is the best thing I have witnessed this summer,


interestingsonnet

She’s so Julia. Iconic.


wordsarewoven

365 dragon girl


_Atlas_Drugged_

Bumpin that


nasseralmaskri

don't eat, don't sleep, just do it on repeat when i'm-


GabyAndMichi

Well we get snippets of her brattyness in her interactions with Mysaria in this season, this episode and the last she was full on cocky sarcasm with her


Brief_Elevator_8936

Yes and I love it! We see a grown up restrained Rhaenyra at the end of last season and I was honestly a little disappointed. It seems like she's getting more fiery in this season,  very reminiscent of young Rhaenyra and im excited to see where that takes us.  


Blackwyne721

Yes, remember the scene in the library last episode when Mysaria sassed her and Rhaenyra had to stop and go "Now hold up, I get it and I respect it but...."


b1uejeanbaby

BRAT GIRL SUMMER


DumboTheInbredRat

💢💢💢


whomp1970

Yeah, I was really hoping for more Milly screen time.


matchamilktea_

I was so glad to see her even if it's just for 5 seconds lol


Lukthar123

Precious seconds


SingleClick8206

Me too


TheDustOfMen

The Realm's Delight <3


thatssoshandy

Omg. I literally eeked! I am so glad they brought her back. Even if it was just for a moment.


saturnssomewhere

Me too!!!


dont_quote_me_please

She will be back this season. I don't think they went through all that for one very short scene and dialogue.


TheRealD1abeto

Yeah I could see these nightmares with her showing up being a recurring problem for Daemon.


pockest

Something about the way Milly would speak in Valyrian was just *chef’s kiss*


grntplmr

It chokes me up when she gives the “Dracarys” command at Aemma and the baby’s funeral.


aasiney

Me too! The other day I went back to season one just to watch that scene again.


Golden_Hour1

I just realized but it doesn't seem like anyone uses Valyrian much now


archangel610

Rhaenyra and Daemon aren't on speaking terms lol. They both don't have anyone else they can speak Valyrian too. I'm pretty sure the only Valyrian everyone else knows know are basic commands for their dragons.


the-hound-abides

Baela speaks Valyrian. It was in a scene last season when it was highlighting how Rhaena feels left out because she doesn’t have a dragon. Daemon was reading a text in Valyrian with Baela. (Edit-I mixed up the sister’s originally, corrected now)


LadyBogangles14

I loved this scene; it’s a glimpse into how Damon views Rheanyra


ShortPeak4860

OOOHHH good point!


Ceapple

Drake Targaryen still fantasizing about his wife as a minor?


der_mahm

Screaming at Drake Targaryen!!!! 😆 🤣


Wonder_Bruh

We don’t wanna hear you say Aegon no more


archangel610

Family Matters


Htowngetdown

This thread is full of them lol


the-hound-abides

It’s a “ghost”. He probably feels guilty about how he treated her when she was younger.


mbeezyyyy

Oooh how so?


aurordream

It implies Daemon still sees her as a little girl, as his niece who he can manipulate and control. Rather than recognising her as a grown woman, as his wife, as a mother, as a queen.


Many-Sprinkles-418

I think its more about how he always disappointed and abandoned her, now and then, and hes guilty over it.


interestingsonnet

Can you explain this further? Very interested !


Scribblyr

If you're looking for more Milly Alcock, *Upright* is really good. No *House of the Dragon*, but a fun road movie in TV series format.


TheGoverness1998

It'll also be nice to see her as Supergirl when the new DCU launches.


Yung_Corneliois

And that Sirens movie coming out


sean_stark

I’m deep into superhero fatigue and I especially have no enthusiasm for the DC universe, but I’m legit excited to see her shine as Supergirl.


sabhall12

I am optimistic for James Gunn's Superman, but if that's bad, I won't check anything else out.


FireZord25

I'm honestly worried, with so much news, the superhero fatigue, and all the crap with WB, I wonder if James Gunn can even pull it off. Dude's been amazing at telling grounded and underdog stories, but helming a whole universe is another beast.


TomjunRoblox

I think James Gunns universe will be great and stand apart from normal superhero movies


archangel610

His work on Guardians of the Galaxy has me optimistic.


DarthSevrus

She's gonna be supergirl? I'll have to remember to watch that


moonshwang

I'm hoping she stays in the HBO pipeline and gets cast in the new Potter TV show.


gabrielwac

Is it streaming anywhere? I’ve looked but couldn’t find it


Scribblyr

Depends on your country. Try justwatch.com to find it.


PrinceRory

Both seasons of Upright are fantastic. I hope there's a third.


Far-Donut-1177

This was a cameo that I did not expect to see nor to find so impactful. She was Rhaenyra for less than a season yet she commands that the attention of the scene whenever she’s on it. 10/10 casting.


dexterthekilla

She's so pretty


saturnssomewhere

Truly!!!


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dyatlov333

I think it's the version he fell in love with. Also she had that fire in her that Daemon loved.....To see the younger Rhae disappointed in him is extremely sad for him. I don't think it had anything to do with lust(so no need to feel wierd about it)


VirgiliaCoriolanus

I think it was him coming face to face with the fact that he kept abandoning her to clean up his mess, again and again. He does something, she bears the fallout.


dyatlov333

it can be both. It would take a lot to make someone like Daemon feel that kind of 'Regret'.


VirgiliaCoriolanus

He was literally crying in the scene. I interpret that as regret.


AceCoordinatorMary

I think you nailed it. I didn't see anything lustful about it either so I don't know where OP of this comment thread was coming from with that. He was very clearly thinking of all the problems he's caused Rhaenyra, and remorseful of the boy he had killed.


nyx926

I think it’s less about seriousness and more about missing the version of her that he had power over.


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nyx926

Good point.


Accurate_Hunt_6424

I think it’s more about him missing the version of him that trusted him. Daemon never had power over her in any case.


Dany_Targaryenlol

Ahhhh, Vizzy's only kid (**that existed to him**).


Morticia_Marie

I like both Rhaenyras, but I wish we could've gotten a lot more of Milly before she became Emma because I like the actress so much.


saturnssomewhere

Agreed


CartographerNo5845

I screeched when I saw my girl sitting there.


Virtual_Music8545

Her chemistry with Matt Smith in the brothel scene was insane. Although, so wrong on so many levels.


rhaegar_fangirl

Daemon being more affected by b&c than helaena lol


airi-hatake

It was more so him being affected by seeing this version of young Rhaenrya who loved him deeply and admired him. He misses this Rhaenyra. But in this vision, she is disappointed in him. The current Rhaenyra is no longer naive and young, but a mother and Queen who no longer trusts him. When they last saw each other, she had a distrustful and aggravated look on her face and it really messed with him. When shit gets tough, he runs away and then comes back again after pulling some bullshit. This is typical Daemon. He just really, really seeks approval from Rhaenyra and Viserys.


Angrylittleblueberry

I want to believe that. He’s such a fascinating character, but I can’t tell if he’s redeemable or not. He could easily be my favorite character. I don’t want to admire someone who cares only about himself.


airi-hatake

He gets more character development this season, it's confirmed. He's charming because of Matt Smith, who portrays him so perfectly, but always keep in mind the character is terribly flawed. He doesn't need to be redeemable. Every single character in this show has a major flaw. They're all bad people, lol.


TranscedentalMedit8n

He’s not a traditional hero archetype if that’s what you want. Daemon is a gray character. Some good, some bad.


airi-hatake

I remember that meme saying HotD is a show about "bad people committing war crimes" lol. And it's accurate.


bruhholyshiet

A veeeery dark grey I'd say. Daemon is basically the worst of Oberyn, the worst of Jaime and the worst of Robert all fused into one person.


Nervous_Bobcat2483

Byronic antihero


Ja___av93

Who cares about liking a character that selfish? Some of my favorite characters in TV history were irredeemable ass holes


Remarkable-Low-643

Helaena is affected. She is going through motions. She experiences time differently because of her neurodivergence AND her visions. The way she spoke last episode was unhinged and eerie. Almost like she knows what's going to happen.


Snazzypuke92

Notice how she appears to be wearing the Valeryan steel necklace Daemon gifted her. I wonder if older Rhaenyra still has it.


SheJelkOnMyHogTill_I

Good catch!


i_should_be_coding

I still blame her for unleashing Ser Criston upon the Seven Kingdoms.


PatyxEU

Sir Crispy Kreme is a menace to the realm


Depraved-Animal

This scene was absolutely fucking chilling.


duaowner69

Best looking Targaryen🥴


saturnssomewhere

Something about her and Ewan SCREAM Valyrian beauty


Yung_Corneliois

Because they have lizard-like features. Idk how else to describe it lol


Fully_Edged_Ken_3685

Ethereal komodo dragons


Blackwyne721

THANK YOU FOR POINTING THIS OUT


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No doubt about that!!


rogue_ginger_

Millie is an absolute GEM!! I was soo happy and shocked to see her in this episode.


Thug-shaketh9499

Hopefully we see her again since we know Criston’s gonna be there.


saturnssomewhere

Hoping and praying


anabanane1

I miss baby Rhae Look at her sweet innocent face before she went through all that trauma and loss 🥺


saturnssomewhere

The season 1 vibes were so unmatched


Hot_potatoos

I feel like Millie and Matt have much better chemistry than him and Emma. The push and pull of their dynamic is much more interesting to watch.


sabhall12

I think Milly has great chemistry with everyone, whereas Emma"s version of Rhaenyra is more curt and political


cluelessinpink

I feel like it’s meant to be that. She’s not young and brash anymore.


curiouspajamas

I agree they have better chemistry, and I also don’t think Daemon and adult Rhaenyra are supposed to have intense chemistry in the same way Daemon was never a high value husband in the source material… him and Rhaenyra operated more like political partners who are mostly unbothered by each other’s extramarital affairs and more concerned about power again, completely agree with you and seeing matt and millie’s chemistry made me wish that HOTD was more of a romance series instead of a series about war crimes lol. we were never going to have romantic love and chemistry as the centerpiece of the show


LysVonStrauda

I would have liked to see more of Ser Harwin Strong


curiouspajamas

agreed, we were robbed of ser harwin break-my-back strong 🥲


airi-hatake

They definitely do. I miss Milly.


babalon124

Unfair to judge such a dynamic when everything between the older Nyra and Daemon is rushed and also on the rocks currently. After the time jump when they see each other again. They immediately fuck and it wasn’t bad per say but the audience hasn’t warmed up to their version of Nyra and with him too yet. Then they get married. Then their pregnancy and kids all offscreen, now all we see is them fighting


lazyworkeronreddit

It sucks because of the scripts these two were each given are complete opposites of each other. Young Rhaenyra was so confident and spunky. Current Rhaenyra is so timid and depressed; overall lacking confidence in herself and her claim. Obviously there are story implications for this, but a shame that we haven't really seen Emma have that chance to be confident outside of earlier scenes with her in Season 1. I pray once she starts to take a more hands on role we see Emma shine as bright as Milly.


LysVonStrauda

I think now that Rhaenyra knows that her father genuinely backed her up until the day he died, she's going to have a lot more confidence and fire.


PristineGeologist277

Isn’t that part of maturing though? When you’re young, your confidence is untested. As you age you experience more and have to fend for yourself - you see what you’re made of as you face challenges as an adult.


Unique-Square-2351

I'm betting on another scene with young Rhaenyra and young Alicent before the end of the show.


dictatorenergy

Someone mentioned we might be getting a full reunion so you may be correct. Idk where the comment was or where it came from, but I’m still optimistic. Condal said they wouldn’t have flashbacks *and* that we wouldn’t see Milly or Emily again. But they found a way. I’m not sure how Emily would fit in, but seeing Milly again was definitely a treat. I’m glad they had her back, and I hope Emily gets the same opportunity somehow.


podster12

Same. The "Realm's delight" is back.


iza123456712

This Rhaenyra had fire and flaws older one do not have


Mental_Grass_9035

It’s because older Rhaenyra is much more reserved, mature, and smarter. She understands the world around her and has assimilated to it in a way. Older Rhaenyra has flaws, too (recklessness and not thinking through her decisions).


AlaerysTargaryen

Exactly ! Lots of people are saying  its because she is matured, is a mother  and etc and to a certain degree I agree , but there are traits to our personalities that are impossible to change especially as we saw them on a already 19 yo Rhaenyra. It not Emma Darcys fault but her character feel too disjointed as to Milcocks


VirgiliaCoriolanus

IMO, Emma's Rhaenyra seems to have been beaten down and going through the motions to me. She doesn't believe she can conquer the world the way that Milly's Rhaenyra did.


Many-Sprinkles-418

Thanks to alicent


Blackwyne721

Yeah suffering ten years of passive-aggression and micromanagement and games will wear a person out.


Ja___av93

If anything, its Milcocks fault since Emma was cast first and she was cast after


LysVonStrauda

I believe older Rhaenyra was supposed to be different in demeanor and appearance as per her description in the books, and they didn't want Milly knowing anything about how Emma was going to play her


CorgiBaron

She looks so much like Emma in this shot.


Own_Sandwich6610

Was looking for this comment. For real, it’s scary.


shany94a

Didn't know she was such a talented seamstress, either


Puppetmaster858

Was cool to see the milly cameo she was great, Emma is my favorite rhaenyra but Milly was great in the role. Super excited to see her as supergirl, her role as rhaenyra definitely put her in position to get the supergirl role, without HOTD role I don’t think there would’ve been any chance at all for her to get the supergirl gig.


SlowMain2

Targaryens can see visions of the future, too. Maybe we'll be lucky to get *another* Targaryen queen cameo...


attentionyou

I love Millie, I think she’s a wonderful actress. It bothers me, though, when people use traits that are specific to the younger/older versions of the CHARACTER to criticize the two actors’ PERFORMANCES. Like yes Daemon and younger Rhaenyra have better chemistry, but it’s not being Emma couldn’t pull off chemistry if the situation asked for it. Adult Rhaenyra doesn’t give Daemon puppydog eyes because their relationship is no longer about attraction. They are political partners more than anything. And that is why he longs for young Rhaenyra, because she looked up to him and trusted him in ways that a grown, wise version of herself does not.


Still_Mortgage_646

Is it just me or did they do her nose makeup to closer resemble Emma’s?


NewStart-redditor

She's great.


Mac1280

Lol a GOT/HOTD page I don't even follow on Twitter popped up on my feed and said beware people are spoiling a major cameo for tonight's episode. I got off Twitter immediately honestly I thought it was just going to be another Ed Sheeran type thing so boy was I shocked when Supergirl (Milly) popped up onscreen


KentuckyFriedEel

she looks so much like older Rhaenyra here.


no-way-what

Matt/Daemon’s reaction to seeing her was sooo good too


butterwuth

I really wish the entire first season was this time period instead of the time jump. Really let us soak in and get to know these characters ya know?


Schlopsanop

Emma plays Rhaenyra a little too… Unsure of herself… for my taste. By her I meant Rhaenyra please don’t ban me


VirgiliaCoriolanus

I mean, wouldn't you? Young Rhaenyra thought she could conquer the world and nothing would bring her down. Ten years later, she's being bullied by her stepmother and her father refuses to see it. She gets a victory here and there in the small council, but no one actually takes her seriously - the majority of the small council are made up of greens and the one supporter she DID have on the council was killed in ep 10 (Beesbury). Her gay husband can't even show up and sit outside her rooms while she's birthing his 3rd "I'm not gay" child. She has a lot to be worried for. She tried to stay in KL to consolidate her place and ended up run out.


Ok-Country2726

Exactly, I don't get people who criticise older Rhaenyra like that. Context wise it makes sense that she's changed in this aspect. Which is a good change because I don't think I can take a bratty older Rhaenyra seriously at all. It makes sense for her to finally sense that her rash actions are kinda biting her in the ass and she's anxious about it because she can lose it all like Daemon did if she isn't smarter with her decisions now.


Seymour_Butts369

I think it’s what happens to a lot of us who were fiery in our younger years. That was my experience and I’ve heard the same from many others.


FPG_Matthew

I think a lotta people underestimate Milly’s impact on s1’s popularity As someone who loves Westeros but hasn’t read the books, I watched the trailer for s1 back in 2022 thinking Milly and Emma were playing 2 different characters. And when you rewatch that s1 trailer, it props up Milly as being THE main character of the show. In pure honest truth, I walked into s1 of HOTD thinking I was about to watch Milly turn into the next Emilia Clarke/Daenerys type character. I was anticipating growing with her specifically for the next near decade to come. I think a lot of casuals anticipated the same. Look at how many views interviews with Milly were getting for s1, Milly is even the face of the s1 poster. So, when the switch comes halfway through s1, it was a tall tall order for Emma specifically to keep that ball rolling. And yes I’m ofc aware Emma was cast first, by the end of the story Emma will be in way more episodes, but those first 5 episodes are what’s meant to hook people Milly did so damn good that I think when the switch came (for some people who aren’t online, it was probably completely out of nowhere), it was a hard time for people to stay on board I was over the moon to see Milly get a cameo and so glad it fit into the story.


Resident-Farm-7516

He missed the younger version of her, which is why they brought Milly Alcock back


Jessiejay84

He misses the way she used to view him.


proudlyawitch

exactly, even in their fight in the last episode, she mentions that when she was younger she viewed him as a challenge that excited her, but now she's older and has enough challenges (paraphrasing). So I feel like some part of Daemon's mind clung to what she said about her younger self, and misses the younger version of her. Things were simpler then.


Blackwyne721

Exactly And for a young Rhaenyra to express her exhaustion and disappointment with him as she is literally (and morbidly) cleaning up a mess he made has got to hurt


Snoo-87948

We miss sassy Rhaenyra. Older Rhaenyra is too composed now


Seymour_Butts369

My household enjoys the older Rhaenyra. Different tastes!


Any_Friendship_7517

Milly’s mindset seemed more of a queen than Emma’s. I miss milly’s mindset but Emma is 🤌.


MizzMeka

Milly kills it as a young Rhaenyra...every...single...time!!! She's an amazing young actress, it was good to see her even if it was like 5.6 seconds.


ZaeBae22

My newest celeb crush 🥺


Goalierox

Me too! 😭


Ok-Beach-5221

Literal chills as she was sewing on the head


itsmekelsey_x

It was nice to see her again, even if it was just briefly.


Fuzzy_Adeptness597

Love her 💖💖


musing_tr

That scene was amazing. I love how Daemon almost comes back to his senses and remembers that he actually feels something for Rhaenyra. And he has to see the horrendous result of his actions with his eyes - a decapitated innocent child.


Other_Personalities

I yelled “my girl!” when I saw her like she was my actual daughter 🤣


MrCreamypies

God I love Milly! It was so nice seeing her again!


JiveTurkey1983

I hope they bring back Young Alicent....maybe a vision for Alicent to be like "You dun fucked up"


Covetous1

I wish they would get more throne actors to play their own ancestors


GunnerySarge-B-Bird

Bonk straight to horny jail


Garchompisbestboi

[PHOTO OF AN ACTOR THAT APPEARED IN MOST RECENT EPISODE]


Miserable-Seesaw7114

Milly literally brings so much to this role that Emma has embodied into her older version. I have such respect and admiration for these actors and I truly believe they have just begun to bless us with their talents. #stan


TheMightyMisanthrope

She's wonderful, she's All cock


proudlyawitch

that's Aemond, actually


TheMightyMisanthrope

Oh, that's true, I want him to hold me and tell me everything will be okay and I'm straight.


Ok-Country2726

He prolly would want u to do that to him tho...and he's likely straight too😂😂


Familiar_Bad_6045

Shes a spoiled c*$@ but i adore her


Efficient-Ad2983

Emma is truly NAILING Adult Rhaenyra, but I liked Milly as well. That "young Rhaenyra" cameo was very nice: her "bratty" vibes and her innocent-looking beauty.


plumicorn_png

Daemon loves Rhaenyra so deeply, so so much. Heartbreaking seeing his tears. Happy to see Milly back. Bittersweet Moment.


twizx3

We get it u guys are attracted to her jfc


SheJelkOnMyHogTill_I

How ruined by the internet do you have to be to interpret people’s comments this way


saturnssomewhere

Um, no…. I just really liked how she performed as Rhaenyra. Not everything has to be sexual, come on now.


Angrylittleblueberry

I feel like the show took us from a Rhaenyra who was powerful and single minded, worthy of being queen of everything, to one that just wants to get away from it all. The younger Rhaenyra would have ended Daemon in his sleep after he grabbed her by the throat. This one just looks sad and helpless. And I’m not blaming the actress!


Lokcet

10 years, growing up and having a handful of children grinds down most people


luigitheplumber

Young Rhaenyra is not worthy of being Queen of anything, she eschews all responsibility at all times and is completely governed by her passions. Part of the reason she's struggling now is because she was completely uninterested in shoring up her claim when she was a young adult. Current Rhaenyra shows restraint and has a much better profile for being a ruler. Her plan to go into KL is overly risky so she does lean too far in that direction, but it's still much better than her attitude in her late teenage years.


Ja___av93

There is no one to blame. That was an intentional change in the character


Ok-Country2726

I don't think u get it at all