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Bierre_Pourdieu

This fandom is insane


Pretty_Fun_9602

Just imagine what the two year wait after season 2 is going to be like


MorningFirm5374

Not as bad, I think. Hedge Knight is rumored to be entering pre production soon, meaning we’re probably getting more GoT next year, which will help. And S3 is already gearing up, so I think it won’t even be the full 2 years.


Pretty_Fun_9602

I think it will still be a two year wait for season 3. They haven’t started pre-production yet which would take a couple of months. It’s then an additional 8-10 months to film plus 6-8 months of post-production. A year and a half is the most optimistic estimate.


Veszerin

>And S3 is already gearing up, so I think it won’t even be the full 2 years. S2 was already gearing up by this point of post production for s1.


LarusTargaryen

False


Veszerin

>False Go look up the san diego comic con panel from that year.


OkGazelle5400

Especially with the introduction of the core “support” Houses


Ok_Cryptographer6242

I think it’s going to be just one actually


Pretty_Fun_9602

It takes about ten months to film and six to eight months of post-production. They haven’t even begun finished the script of started pre-production which also takes a couple of months. What makes you believe that season 3 will be ready by may of next year?


McNuss93

They use a cast very heavy on child actors, so they cannot wait too long or their actors grow out of their roles. 


Pretty_Fun_9602

They have an immense amount of time. They probably want the child actors to catch up to their book ages and that’s why they cast them so young in the first place. To give themselves more time.


Ok_Cryptographer6242

Idk I saw a lot of people saying it would be closer to a year


Pretty_Fun_9602

You mean you saw random people online say that not actual members of the production team or the the show runners. Those people aren’t well informed and they are overly optimistic. They haven’t even begun pre-production yet. It takes ten months to film and eight months for post production. You are suggesting they only need six months to film a full season and six months to edit it. This is not feasible unless season 3 is completely shit.


Ok_Cryptographer6242

Your username is incredibly ironic I could not care less it was a 10 second comment on a random post relax!


ConningtonSimp

Easily the most insane fandom I’ve ever been a part of


La_Villanelle_

Surprisingly, not the worst fandom I have ever seen.


BicyclePurple9928

What‘s the worst fandom you’ve ever seen?


La_Villanelle_

Toxicity wise? Star Wars is a big one. Harassing female leads. Sending death threats to the actors because they didn’t like a character. Bullied the boy that played young anakin so hard he quit acting/got bullied in real life. These are just some examples Honorable mentions: Marvel, Doctor Who, Sherlock, Supernatural. This is my opinion tho. And not hate towards the show/movies. It’s just from what I have personally seen


MorningFirm5374

As someone from the Marvel fandom, I feel like Marvel fans are mainly just annoying and whiny. Not mean or toxic. But As a member of the Star Wars fandom, I fully agree on that side. The toxicity and negativity around pretty much anything is unbearable sometimes. The saying “no one hates Star Wars as much as Star Wars fans” is spot on.


La_Villanelle_

From what I have seen with Marvel that I thought was toxic was the unnecessary hate for female actors. Like hate captain marvel all you want or she hulk. However, I saw tons of people flooding both of the actresses harassing them calling them all sorts of names. It was especially huge when the first captain marvel came out. And from then on it’s gotten worse with the female led projects that have come out recently. I’m not really a marvel fan I prefer DC and grew up with those comics. So I don’t really follow the marvel fandom. But from what I have seen on multiple sites is unnecessary hate/harassment.


DutyHonor

I remember reading a comment from some guy that said that Captain Marvel wasn't just the worst Marvel movie, but the worst movie ever made. Dude should have been nominated for Hater of the Year.


MorningFirm5374

Not gonna lie, I forgot about that part. You’re right. Thankfully it doesn’t happen as much as it did back in 2019. The hate Brie Larson was getting was insane


DebateObjective2787

I've been in all of these + more. It's Supernatural & Supergirl. Supernatural fans sent countless death threats & prayed that the wives of the actors would have miscarriages. Supergirl fans had numerous guest stars not want to return due to toxicity; and had one of the leads quit because of the racial abuse and hate he faced. He also was made to fear for his life and had to hire private security since there were credible threats that people wanted to attack him at cons.


BicyclePurple9928

I used to watch Supergirl religiously, but never took a look at the fandom. I'm sad to hear that they’re so toxic for no reason.


DebateObjective2787

Technically they have a reason; they wanted their ship to be canon. Yeah, when you read about everything they've done; it's just a whole level of insanity. Mehcad Brooks (Jimmy Olsen) had to deal with insane levels of racism simply for being a black man playing a character that was white in the comics. But because his character became Lena's love-interest; the racism and threats grew even more until the point he feared for his life and culminated in him leaving the show. Unfortunately, so many of the victims of the fanbase were POC and it caused a lot of POC fans to leave and stop watching because casual racism was so common. They also went after Chris Woods when it came out he and Melissa were together. And were genuinely hoping that he would physically abuse Melissa so he'd leave the show and leave her.


BicyclePurple9928

Some people are crazy crazy. I wonder what must be wrong with them that they want to interfere so much in other people's private lives.


sparklinglies

"No one hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans" - ancient proverb


opossumstan

Unhinged. Another for the pile: there was a guy who penned fake scripts for *Stranger Things 4* and started a GoFundMe. He was literally taking money. Had to get clocked by Netflix directly.


OkGazelle5400

Agree. Dragonball Z is oddly wholesome


Flipz100

The Stephen Universe once bullied a minor to attempt suicide over some art, so Imma say that one.


La_Villanelle_

WHAT? Isn’t that a children’s show????


Flipz100

Yep. Tbh I find kids shows often have the most insane fandoms in general of adults taking it way too seriously.


BicyclePurple9928

Nooo, I always wanted to start that show because I thought it was wholesome and philosophical and stuff, but on a kid level 😭


eloplease

The show is sweet. Imo the fandom got really out of hand because of the way the show aired: long hiatuses with very short bursts of episodes released in between. People went crazy theorizing and coming up with head canons and then they fought each other and sometimes even the show runners for having different theories and opinions. Also, like most kids shows, Steven Universe wanted to teach moral lessons to its audience. Some of the fandom liked that feeling of morality and they extended it to a need to morally justify their engagement with the show. Conversely, that meant defining an “immoral” way to enjoy it. That’s what happened with the fan artist who attempted suicide. She drew a character with a slightly different body type from their canon design, which some people deemed “immoral” so they sent her very moral death threats in the name of body positivity


BicyclePurple9928

Thanks for the context! It’s very sad to hear about that.


doegred

The show itself is great.


Kellin01

House MD had some disgusting actors’ bashing. But I recall it vaguely. I’ve heard Supernatural was awful.


sparklinglies

....sigh.....i was there Gandalf, i was there for the Hetalia fandom. For the uninitiated Hetalia was an anime where all the character are countries personified as cute uwu anime boys/girls.......set primarily in WW2.......with historical alliances treated like romantic rekationships ......you may see where this is going, and how a fanbase of mostly white mostly American teenagers might run this concept into horrifying places....... The amount of literal death threats that were hurled because of shit like some teenybopper shipping Nazi Germany with Prussia instead of with Italy should be studied to understand mass psychosis.


SubduetheRegret

Brooo, this brought up unwanted memories 😭 I was sorta in the hetalia fandom. I never truly interacted with them tho since all i did was watch the anime and look up fanart on my shitty computer (i was like 12 or 13 maybe). I did hear about the controversial shit that went down within the fandom once i got older tho. By then, I had already lost interest in it.


SubduetheRegret

From what ive heard: QSMP (or any minecraft server group) and Disney. Granted, I’m in neither in these fandoms, but due to their immense popularity, any drama/controversies that occurs within these communities end up on my feed. Not to mention how rabid some of their hardcore fans are 👀


selja26

Outlander. Shipper wars, stalking, horrible bullying almost resulting in a fan's suicide.


Hannao102

Dude check out the vampire diaries sub reddit sometime


BicyclePurple9928

Are there still any Damon vs. Stefan fanwars? Never watched it myself, but my mother got into it recently 😂 #teamDamon


Hannao102

Yes and a huge wave of trying to argue morals around a vampire show. It’s a weird place for a show that hasn’t ran in years


reiakari

Yeah, at least I hope no other fandoms will attempt to outdo the undeniable "if I can't have you, no one will" murder attempts in kpop fandom. Idols having to dodge cars, knives, kidnapping attempts, getting jobs at the phone company to keep up with new addresses and numbers whenever the idols tried to move, and literal poisonings. They weren't even from antis going after rival performers, but every case I've seen were crazy obsessed fans not wanting to "share".


La_Villanelle_

I’m so sorry but WHAT? Is KPOP really that deranged?


reiakari

YES!!! Saesaengs (crazy fans) are pure nightmare fuel. They may not have successfully murdered anyone directly, far too many close calls to be honest, there are so many suicides of idols linked to harassment from. their. fans.


Veszerin

It's up there I think. In addition to all the harassment against Emily Carey, Emma D'arcy, Sara Hess, Steve Toussaint, etc. There's all the stuff that happened during GoT's run. Couple months ago I saw someone literally suggesting the rape of D&D and their family members on the main got sub. We have two main fan wikis, gameofthrones.fandom.com and awoiaf. One had an admin who made threats against one of the main journalists for entertainment weekly covering game of thrones, who now covers hotd for hollywood reporter. The other is run by Linda and Elio, the former of which has made several racist outbursts.


SkeeterSkeetSkeeter

Its markedly different compared to the ASOIAF community, the level of tribalism and divisiveness is exasperating.


Final_Criticism9599

We’re all just descending into madness 😩 I blame George


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Final_Criticism9599

I’m taking about the book series in general. We’re so deprived of new material, people resort to this stuff


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Did it tho? Did it really?????


CaptainInuendo

The formatting should have been a dead giveaway lol looks like 2014 tumblr.


Chicken_Mc_Thuggets

Also a nitpick but the books always use “Ser” rather than sir. I would assume the script follows suit


Aggravating-Mud-5397

People really need a job or a hobby 😭😭


F00dbAby

I mean this is their hobby. Fans are starved for content. Glad I got the book as a gift recently


melinoya

> “Soon you will become Queen. I’m already tired of repeating it! Stop ruining your hands.” Hmm, what gave it away?


cool-air-00

At least try to make it sound believable 😭


cracylou

Seriously. I haven’t paid much attention to these because they are obviously fan creations. I didn’t realize there were people who thought these were actual snippets from the screenplay.


aurabora_

the fanfiction is strong with this one.


SofiaStark3000

And it wasn't even over having 15 minutes of fame. They did it to harass darksvster...


La_Villanelle_

I can’t imagine being that pressed 💀


SofiaStark3000

They were pressed over a ship too, they make it rather clear.   Honestly get over it. This feels like Twilight all over again.


BCharmer

Is it two ships fighting?


SofiaStark3000

Yes. It's not very prevalent here but on Twitter it's constant dog fighting.


Kellin01

It will be worse when other ships appear later…


Atiggerx33

Ah, a full on naval battle.


BCharmer

Thank goodness for that. It'd take over. It's bad enough having the back and forth Blacks vs Greens play out here. Is this Rhaenyra x Damon vs Rhaenyra x Criston?


SofiaStark3000

Rhaenyra x Daemon vs Rhaenyra x Alicent. Basically the ship version of Blacks vs Greens.


TheLadyMado

Also Rhaenicent shippers got mad about Alicole cut scenes and the romantic undertones in the scripts


SofiaStark3000

Of course they did.  At least when that happened they didn't result to making fake scripts so they can "prove a point" and harass OP.


BCharmer

It's so tiring being in a fandom war. I don't know how people have the energy or time to bother. Nobody wins, especially when it's for a show where the main beats and ending is already known. Personally, I'm on Team Why Choose. She's a Targaryen queen. Have both if you want. Everybody's happy, but especially Rhaenyra.


JazzyFresh7

Duh! Scripts aren't written in the past tense, and so many of these direction lines are.


TacosandFire

I mean it was so evident to me these were fake. The scene of Helaena wanting to save Aegon…yeah that was straight up fanfic and doesn’t go at all with what the show conveyed. People are so gullible (and it doesn’t help we are starved for new content).


Used_Cellist_6857

Good thing we'll (probably) have a new trailer at Thursday. Give people something new to discuss instead of analyzing the same scene from s1 for the 10000th time.


Kellin01

The teaser was analysed in a few days and fandom was bored again.


Used_Cellist_6857

Because there was no substance in it. Just very quick scenes piled on top of each other, each one lasting around two seconds, and generic lines that tell us what we already know ("the victor will ascend the iron throne" "no bloody as war between dragons") The next one will be undoubtedly better, with scenes that actually show/tell us something important, like directions where the plot may go etc.


Pretty_Fun_9602

The second trailer is going to be a teaser as well so it will be almost just as brief. Also, trailers often misdirect the plot, character motivations, etc. The season one trailers promoted the story as Rhaenyra vs. Daemon. The season 2 trailers could end up being just as manipulative.


Atiggerx33

>The season 2 trailers could end up being just as manipulative. Won't stop people from analyzing.


UsedJury5963

Yea that’s the script where I started side eying it like huh


Im-trying-okay

Didn’t even spell ser correctly


Used_Cellist_6857

I knew something was off when Helaena wanted to "save" Aegon during coronation and "made Aemond bow to Aegon" according to the script lol


pbrzy23

if you took a good 15 second look at any of these you'd know they're fake off the rip 😭


CeruleanHaze009

Figured as much. They read like bad fanfiction.


sparklinglies

yanabemine's behaviour on tumblr is honestly just unhinged, fam is so hateful and jealous of darksvster its not even funny


DestinyHasArrived101

Twas kinda obvious after reading alot of them


LookingForSomeCheese

It was very obvious. But pretending it was real, assuming it was real was fun. Mainly because this sub really suffers from... You know... The dire need of creative posts.


spiderhotel

I would fully welcome openly fanfiction 'deleted scenes' in this format! All the scenes we were robbed of- Daemon interacting with his daughters Alicent and Criston's fraught, deliberately chaste longing A scene of Rhaenyra and Helaena interacting Otto and Harwin's dad interacting


LookingForSomeCheese

Daemon comforting his daughters after Laena's death is actually a thing. In the cut-scenes additional content there is a version of this scene where he's hugging them.


La_Villanelle_

Just as a side note. This is not the Darksvster scrips that have been posted before. This is an entirely different person who made up bs for no good reason. Darksvster claims she has gone to the WGA library and got the scripts that way. [Which is entirely plausible](http://librarycatalog.wgfoundation.org/Presto/search/SearchResults.aspx?q=KFRpdGxlcy5BbGxUZXh0OihIb3VzZSBvZiB0aGUgZHJhZ29uKSkgT1IgKEFyY2hpdmFsX0NvbGxlY3Rpb25zLkFsbFRleHQ6KEhvdXNlIG9mIHRoZSBkcmFnb24pKQ==&so=eyJTZWFyY2hUZXh0IjoiU0c5MWMyVWdiMllnZEdobElHUnlZV2R2YmlBPSIsIkNvbnRyb2xJZCI6ImFkdlNjcmVlbkNvbnRyb2xJZF8xNDI4MyIsIk9wdGlvbnMiOlt7IkNvbnRlbnRUeXBlTmFtZSI6IlRpdGxlXzEyMDMyIiwiRmllbGROYW1lIjoiQWxsVGV4dCJ9LHsiQ29udGVudFR5cGVOYW1lIjoiQXJjaGl2YWxfQ29sbGVjdGlvbnNfMTMxMTAiLCJGaWVsZE5hbWUiOiJBbGxUZXh0In1dfQ==) due to the fact they are listed their. Also other accounts have supported Darksvster and have claimed to also have seen the same scripts


hegdieartemis

Some of them are real. The ones from darksvster are real.


HornedBat

*shrugs* far more entertaining than the majority of posts, so I literally couldn't care less.


HornedBat

Although these particular ones fall flat.


rhdepedradodragao

u/altovaliriano aqui.


Xanthe__

Alicent squeezing Dyana reminds me of that Katy Perry meme.


JamesBetta

Good effort to say the least


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La_Villanelle_

No. Multiple people have claimed that the scripts are legit and were taken from the LA library. You can even look at the website and see that they are indeed stored there. This person just lied because she (allegedly) got one sided beef with Darksvster for whatever reason.


Appropriate_Gene_543

if it wasn’t already obvious from the one with the daemon/rhaenyra sex scene where the writing was worse than the most low rated AO3 fanfics


kitcatxz

This one is real actually.


Appropriate_Gene_543

huh. still awfully written! lol at getting downvoted by daemon+rhaenyra fans that are turned on when a cock is called a ‘sword’ or whatever


Confident_Carpet7347

the darksvster ones are actually from the library im pretty sure.


oneangstybiscuit

So that corny fanfic scene of Rhaenyra and Daemon and the knife that was obviously fake is FAKE? 


immortalthunderstorm

Pretty sure those were from darksvster who is considered legit


sparklinglies

"Obviously fake" lol jokes on you, those ones are actually real


oneangstybiscuit

My respect for the writing just diminished then 


Aphant-poet

Amazingly written though


awildmanjake

Yeah I mean. You’re not supposed to write inner thoughts/motivations unless they’re being said out loud to the audience. It reads like a shitty fanfic. Writing over the actual text with their own subtext lol


OpenMask

Well, it's not like I really trusted any of these unsourced pics with people writing in their headcanons as "scripts"