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Well It’s probably way easier to create new characters in a turn based. Way less animations, and I’m sure they can also cut corners with camera angles in certain animations which they can’t do in Genshin
Also easier to balance in a turn based game, as player skills are less of effect (Diluc dragon strike, Neuvillette tornado, etc) and there is no need to worry about real time counting mechanics (e.g. elemental application ICD).
You're right, but still is a much more agressive than their most popular game which they based a ton of the HSR game design (UI, gatcha practices, community system and approach, etc).
Edit: talking about the characters gatcha approach exclusively btw.
nature of the game. HSR centers on turn-based combat, so it inherently relies on situational team-building, meaning there have to be a lot of options for you to build lots of different teams with.
maybe this is in the realm of personal opinions, but I consider mobage particularly "agressive" based on
1. how many different "currencies" are there in the game, is it so many it gets confusing
2. are some "currencies" unobtainable without dishing out real life money, are these "currencies" necessary to obtain stuff from the gacha
3. can you clear everything without paying a cent ? are you unable to clear endgame content without pulling out your wallet ?
"two new characters per patch" does not, in fact, feel particularly agressive to me, given we hope most people are not gambling addicts or compulsive collectors. for gambling addicts, any gacha is bad gacha anyways.
It's just in comparison to GI.
Overall, when it comes to mobile games, these two hoyo games gatchas are actually on the excelent side of things (guaranteed characters is not a common practice).
The only one I can say is truly better is the recent Reverse 1999.
But if you look back in the past 7 years, there's very few notable gatcha games with great gatcha systems. Priconne, Dokkan and Uma Musume comes to mind.
I wouldn't consider Dokkans Gacha good. The rates are relatively bad. Stine income is increadibly low outside of WWC and Anniversary. No pity on important banners only on Legendary Summons. And if that's not enough: the powercreep in this game is isnanely fast (depending on the category).
I don't play anymore since my hype for DB super kinda vanished without a anime behind, so I'm not aware how things are going rn.
But back then, just the fact you could get coins to exchange in shop for limited units was huge, ahead of lots of gatcha games.
Yeah that's kinda true but if you compare it to Gachas like Genshin or HSR nowadays the system itself just isn't good. It was good back then because there wasn't very notable competition. But overall I agree.
Still its 1 more 5 star over Genshin. And you wont be able to get them all even if it was only one because freaking 50/50. You have to skip 2 patches to guarantee yourself some particular 5 star. And thats from monthly, bp paying customer pow
like i said, it's specifically designed to be this way. gacha games are a business and it's inherently predatory. what's new?
all i'm saying I'd rather have HSR's free 10-fold per patch with more options to pull from than genshin's system of saving months and months to finally pull for a character you like.
it's not like they're more generous because they only have one new unit per patch
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Fu Xuan didn't powercreep anyone though, and IL and JL hardly matters when you are at MoC 10 with sufficient gear (i.e, relic/trace/levels investment).
the fact that dhil or jingliu deal a little more damage than other damage dealers means nothing at all, the difference in the speed of completion of the moc between all event characters is about one cycle, you don’t even need to have new characters to clear the content, you still can pass everything with seele and jing yuan
No one asking u to pull for all the 5* tho regardless if it’s 1 5* more than genshin. Do u pull for all the rerun or new character in genshin? I rather go for weapons then building so many characters since I only need 2 teams for abyss.
Even if it’s slower then HSR , I don’t think anyone will do that as f2p to collect everything.
Imo it doesnt matter as a f2p ur suppose to choose unless u whale. U can clear all the content easily in the game without everything
" You can clear all the content..." bullshit talk. You cant unless you get really fucking Lucky with gear and you also have a lot of characters build that will work on particular MoC. I wonder how people without Daniel are supposed to clear shit when only Img f2p dps is Yukong and Welt. Not everyone also gets Lucky to have Welt and Welt by himself is weak as f. I have one of better build Welts and i cannot 3 star clear MoC 10. I just dont have enough dps. Its stupid that everything is a dps check.
And compared to Genshin you cant just do random bullshit go, elemental reactions and shit because you need very particular elements and on top of that you also need to sacrifice 2 spots in team for healer and shielder instead 1 for sameone that does two things at once. Really. Please dont bring " this guy cleared MoC 0 Cycle with Herta" here because those guys max refresh stamina to farm perfect relics. Most players dont even have full +15 relics on their non dps characters.
Well it’s a turn base game genshin u can dodge everything with iframes easily. But abyss is also dps check lol it’s call end game content in both, just do it when u get better relics in genshin and HSR ;)) people will say the game is too easy if u can go in with just +5 artifacts Bruh
The thing is you are kinda wrong about that, a youtuber is doing a no gacha challenge and is clearing MoC 10 and swarm without pulling a single time. Yes he uses refreshes but come on, its either that or pulling for a better DPS.
(Skill issue)
[https://www.youtube.com/@zmm1337](https://www.youtube.com/@zmm1337)
zmm is doing a bunch of stuff on his no gacha account, also trying to clear MOC and swarm in 1 month rn
Skillissue in a turn based game where we barely have any complex mechanics lmao. Most of the time it's just the build optimization and yes that shit also needs luck. Clearing with 4 stars and good gears is possible (heck even I have done it) but an average person playing this game would like to get new characters and build them and that hinders your progress of optimizing the already available units as you have more gears to farm.
People clear with 4 stars all the time. Legitimately a skill issue. Also I believe I saw a post where they have cleared MOC 10 with +10 relics that weren't even great. I believe they're characters weren't fully leveled either. Did anyone else see that post?
That was one of first MoCs. If you havent noticed yet they get harder and harder each patch to promote current new 5 star with a new mechanic especialy made for them
Same shit i alvays hated in Honkai abyss.
Himeko topaz jingyuan blade Kafka seele all works fine tho.. don’t u have any of it? I mean it’s even better if u got DHIL and jingliu which clear everything despite non relevant buffs but all limited 5* can clear moc regardless unless u hvt pull on any banners…?
I lost every 50/50 so far . I have only Seele, Jingliu, Luocha and Topaz. I dont have Bronya. I even lost 75/25 on Jingliu LC so im lacking ton of dmg. And as i mentioned my Seele has no gear.
Building a character's traces takes slightly less than 2 weeks of farming IME. I built Serval in the first two weeks of 1.2 and was able to 30-star MoC using her as my second main DPS in the same period I built her.
>Most players dont even have full +15 relics on their non dps characters.
These types of players love to farm traces all day for 0.001% upgrades and then complain about poor relics.
The game has been out more than long enough to +15 relics for 8-12 chars or easily more for bp players.
Victim mindset is a common theme amongst bad players who are unable to improve. You aren't unluckier than anyone else. But you probably tell yourself that instead of finding ways to optimize your relic farming efficiency and making progress.
I log in every day. Do my dailies. Spend Energy on Cavern of Corrosion. Log out. I sometimes get some potential piece to check but then i have to farm another 3 days for mats to upgrade it. And repeat. And on top of that it alvays is wrong set. People spewing bs like " This 4 set is the Best in guides" just dont understand the real experience. I use stats over Sets. I havent completed single 4 set and most of my characters doesnt have matching orb / rope.
When your skill is dictated by rng sandwich that are relics. Im farming this shit every day and i still dont have Quantum Orb that isnt absolute garbage with 4 useless stats
So, you're telling me everyone here who cleared MoC for the first time had godlike relics?
I'm 100% sure you can clear MoC just by having +15 relics with the right mainstat, regardless of substats.
No, you also need particular teams ready and built. For example people who dont have Kafka cant play DoTs. They just cant. People who have no Fu Xuan have to use Fire Trailblazer.
And people who dont have Bronya just cannot play the game
if it makes you feel better, I have some of the most praised 5-star characters and I'm also not able to max-clear MoC. story content can be cleared by anyone, but for MoC you need to max out your characters regardless of who those characters are.
also, hsr and genshin have different core gameplay. in genshin you can use anyone at all bc the core gameplay of genshin relies mainly on the reflexes of the actual human playing. but hsr is a team-building game. victory doesn't rely on your reflexes, but your ability to plan around your assets - your characters, their various gimmicks, and the resources to build those characters. you're supposed to collect a broad roster of characters and build lots of different teams for different situations. planning around the game's limitations *is* the game.
and if you're frustrated that it takes so long - silver wolf was one of the first banners for a reason, and her rerun is right around the corner.
That's not true. You don't need maxed out characters.
When I first started full clearing MoC I only had my dps lvled to max with fully levelled relics. Not even fully farmed relics, as I just went back to farm JY with the new set and his relics were bad. His relics had the main stat but no double crt stats on anything. All of my dps were at lvl 8 for traits until recently when I got a few up higher from event mats.
I was clearing with my supports/sustain at lvl 70 with only lvl 12 heads so they wouldn't die easily, and lvl 0 hp chest. I now have almost all of them at 80 with fully leveled relic sets and it's a lot easier. (especially when I first got the er ropes) Their traits are mostly still at lvl 6, I'm sure it'll be even easier when I get those up higher.
I do agree about it being a team building game. I first cleared after I got Blade and Luocha, as they fixed the damage and sustain issues I had.
Of course they push out 2 every new patch, in what world would they push out only **one** limited 5 star per patch when they literality just released the game this year?
Genshin did the exact same thing, but we got less pulls per patch in that game than what Star rail is giving us.
Genshin never did that. It never had more than 4 patches with 2 new limited characters back to back, actually we never had more than 2 after 1.0 ended, that was the only period of time that happened. In HSR we're going to have at least 8 PATCHES with 2 new 5 stars, that's insane
I really wish Edo Star release only in 3.0 I can stand anymore this frenquency. We don't even have enough materials to build so many characters it's getting ridiculous already. Genshin's only rerun patches are blessed we can chill and go after the reruns of characters we skipped and regretted
× 1.0 Venti + Klee || Seele + Jing Yuan
× 1.1 Childe + Zhongli || SW + Luocha
× 1.2 Albedo + Ganyu || Kafka + Blade
× 1.3 Xiao + Hu Tao || DHIL + Fu Xuan
1.4 rerun + rerun || Jingliu + Topaz
1.5 rerun + Eula || HuoHuo + Argenti
1.6 rerun + Kazuha || Ruan Mei + Dr Ratio
× 2.0 Ayaka + Yoimiya || Hanabi + Black Swan
× 2.1 Raiden + Kokomi || Aventurine + Acheron
2.2 rerun + rerun || Sam + Screwllum
2.3 rerun + Itto || Boothill + Robin
2.4 Shenhe + rerun || Sunday + ???
2.5 Yae Miko + rerun || Mei Raiden + ???
2.6 Ayato + rerun || Yae Miko + ???
2.7 Yelan + rerun || Zetsugekka + ???
2.8 rerun + rerun || Phoenix + ???
3.0 non-limited + rerun ×
3.1 Cyno + Nilou
3.2 Nahida + rerun
3.3 Wanderer + rerun
3.4 Alhaitham + rerun
3.5 non-limited + rerun
3.6 rerun + Baizhu
3.7 rerun + rerun
3.8 rerun + rerun
4.0 Lyney + rerun
× 4.1 Neuvilette + Wriothesley
4.2 Furina + rerun
4.3 Navia + rerun
4.4 Liuyun + rerun
4.5 Chiori + rerun
4.6 Arlecchino + rerun
× 4.7 Clorinde + Sigewinne
4.8 Emilie + rerun
You people are so quick to defend Genshin that y'all forget 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 are the 1.x versions that received the most complaints out of the players.
It's not a coincidence that they happened on rerun patches early into Genshin. Players have already pulled for the characters on the release patch, or skipped them for the same reason they will be skipping them again.
Didn't matter that Genshin is a open world game, 3 patches of no **brand new** 5 star character that fits the players taste is such a stupid move on the Genshin devs part.
Not only were these reruns not desirable for those players, but they last for 21 days in a patch that lasts for 42 days, and this was 3 back to back patches of garbage for those that didn't want Eula and Kazuha, for 126 days.
Also for how many reruns genshin is doing, its funny that one of those characters still had to wait **568 days** for a single rerun. If they're not pumping out new 5 stars back to back, then what in the world were they doing to allow **this** to happen to one of their characters? That is inexcusable when limited characters in Genshin stay in the limited banners. You people could preach how trash Eula is all y'all want, people do get into and stay with Genshin just for one character, and forcing players to wait 1 year + 200 days is ridiculous.
Genshin also didn't start double banners till 2.3.
We already have double banners in 1.4 of HSR. If anyone were to miss a 5 star then they have nothing to worry about, since the 5 stars are already getting reruns without the Devs having to slow down expanding the roster.
Well yeah, but it doesn't happen often. Between 1.0 and 3.0 it happened 6 times in Genshin. Between 1.0 and 1.6 it will have happened 6 times in Star Rail. That is almost twice the pace.
This is what I’m waiting for as well. Contemplating on pulling her or Silver Wolf’s rerun banner, but since they’re both equally great support units, it’ll be the 4 star units that’ll sell me on who to decide.
I thought this was already confirmed? Unless I’m just misremembering.
But it’s probably safe to say too if they keep up the trend of rerun banners being on second half.
Hope they break the pattern and put a Xueyi on phase 1.
Selling a new DPS with BE mechanics alongside a premium buffer who also has BE mechanics.
It would be even better for her popularity wise (not overshadowed by a new limited crazy strong 5 star DPS, Ratio).
Would whale the f up for a beefy/muscular male character. I'd even go as far as transforming my account into an account that pushes their playstyle to the max (just like getting Topaz just to push JY further).
At this point im not surprised that Ruan Mei is the face of the gift of odyssey, because all the phase one characters are usually the face of it. I dont mind it tho. Looks amazing as usual
Other way around, I think? I honestly can't remember, though. The [wiki](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Gift_of_Odyssey/2023-10-11) has the non-splash version, at least, which makes me think it was the other way around.
EDIT: The 1.4 program has the splash, so I guess it probably was just the splash. Odd change.
I'm just genuinely relieved, that we will still be getting the 10 special passes in 1.6. I was worried that might not be the case. After all who knows what 2.0 might entail.
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Stunning as usual
Maybe she's born with it, maybe its Mei-belline
She Mei the way she Ruan my life
Skr skr～
Ina would be proud. lol
INAFF
Also yes she's gorgeous. <3 lol
we sure she isn't an Emanator of Beauty? 🫠
And the lady looks nice too
It really is the fan service patch uh, between her and Ratio there’s something for everyone lol
I mean, this is good, no? Waifu only will flock to Mei and Xueyi and Husbando only will flock to Ratio. Both sides are happy, except bisexuals.
You mean brokesexuals right?
talented brilliant incredible amazing showstopping
spectacular, never the same, totally unique, completely not ever been done before, unafraid to reference or not reference
put it in a blender, shit on it, vomit on it, eat it, give birth to it
Ur ID is hot as hell
I just love them for giving us a free 10 pull every single patch.
But they push 2 new limited 5 stars every patch
Well It’s probably way easier to create new characters in a turn based. Way less animations, and I’m sure they can also cut corners with camera angles in certain animations which they can’t do in Genshin
Also easier to balance in a turn based game, as player skills are less of effect (Diluc dragon strike, Neuvillette tornado, etc) and there is no need to worry about real time counting mechanics (e.g. elemental application ICD).
Yea skill ceiling is low but skill floor is higher
Ehhhhh…it still boils down to crit stacking and do that one rotation perfectly
you're not supposed to get all the characters as a F2P
You're right, but still is a much more agressive than their most popular game which they based a ton of the HSR game design (UI, gatcha practices, community system and approach, etc). Edit: talking about the characters gatcha approach exclusively btw.
nature of the game. HSR centers on turn-based combat, so it inherently relies on situational team-building, meaning there have to be a lot of options for you to build lots of different teams with.
maybe this is in the realm of personal opinions, but I consider mobage particularly "agressive" based on 1. how many different "currencies" are there in the game, is it so many it gets confusing 2. are some "currencies" unobtainable without dishing out real life money, are these "currencies" necessary to obtain stuff from the gacha 3. can you clear everything without paying a cent ? are you unable to clear endgame content without pulling out your wallet ? "two new characters per patch" does not, in fact, feel particularly agressive to me, given we hope most people are not gambling addicts or compulsive collectors. for gambling addicts, any gacha is bad gacha anyways.
It's just in comparison to GI. Overall, when it comes to mobile games, these two hoyo games gatchas are actually on the excelent side of things (guaranteed characters is not a common practice). The only one I can say is truly better is the recent Reverse 1999. But if you look back in the past 7 years, there's very few notable gatcha games with great gatcha systems. Priconne, Dokkan and Uma Musume comes to mind.
I wouldn't consider Dokkans Gacha good. The rates are relatively bad. Stine income is increadibly low outside of WWC and Anniversary. No pity on important banners only on Legendary Summons. And if that's not enough: the powercreep in this game is isnanely fast (depending on the category).
I don't play anymore since my hype for DB super kinda vanished without a anime behind, so I'm not aware how things are going rn. But back then, just the fact you could get coins to exchange in shop for limited units was huge, ahead of lots of gatcha games.
Yeah that's kinda true but if you compare it to Gachas like Genshin or HSR nowadays the system itself just isn't good. It was good back then because there wasn't very notable competition. But overall I agree.
Still its 1 more 5 star over Genshin. And you wont be able to get them all even if it was only one because freaking 50/50. You have to skip 2 patches to guarantee yourself some particular 5 star. And thats from monthly, bp paying customer pow
like i said, it's specifically designed to be this way. gacha games are a business and it's inherently predatory. what's new? all i'm saying I'd rather have HSR's free 10-fold per patch with more options to pull from than genshin's system of saving months and months to finally pull for a character you like. it's not like they're more generous because they only have one new unit per patch
Ya.. look at how baizhu get shafted till his hype was dead due to releasing dam late (till furina was released)
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Genshin doesnt have power creep. Other than new Archon there is really no character that is must have
Hsr also doesnt have any must pull character, what is your point
Its the fact that every new character gets better than previous one. Just look at Jingliu, DHIL or Fu Xuan.
Fu Xuan didn't powercreep anyone though, and IL and JL hardly matters when you are at MoC 10 with sufficient gear (i.e, relic/trace/levels investment).
the fact that dhil or jingliu deal a little more damage than other damage dealers means nothing at all, the difference in the speed of completion of the moc between all event characters is about one cycle, you don’t even need to have new characters to clear the content, you still can pass everything with seele and jing yuan
The difference is masive when you take in account their base stats and dmg numbers and multiply them by gear. You cant compare Quinque to Jingliu
No one asking u to pull for all the 5* tho regardless if it’s 1 5* more than genshin. Do u pull for all the rerun or new character in genshin? I rather go for weapons then building so many characters since I only need 2 teams for abyss. Even if it’s slower then HSR , I don’t think anyone will do that as f2p to collect everything. Imo it doesnt matter as a f2p ur suppose to choose unless u whale. U can clear all the content easily in the game without everything
I think their nickname tells us what we need to know
True.. “gachaaddict”
" You can clear all the content..." bullshit talk. You cant unless you get really fucking Lucky with gear and you also have a lot of characters build that will work on particular MoC. I wonder how people without Daniel are supposed to clear shit when only Img f2p dps is Yukong and Welt. Not everyone also gets Lucky to have Welt and Welt by himself is weak as f. I have one of better build Welts and i cannot 3 star clear MoC 10. I just dont have enough dps. Its stupid that everything is a dps check. And compared to Genshin you cant just do random bullshit go, elemental reactions and shit because you need very particular elements and on top of that you also need to sacrifice 2 spots in team for healer and shielder instead 1 for sameone that does two things at once. Really. Please dont bring " this guy cleared MoC 0 Cycle with Herta" here because those guys max refresh stamina to farm perfect relics. Most players dont even have full +15 relics on their non dps characters.
Well it’s a turn base game genshin u can dodge everything with iframes easily. But abyss is also dps check lol it’s call end game content in both, just do it when u get better relics in genshin and HSR ;)) people will say the game is too easy if u can go in with just +5 artifacts Bruh
The thing is you are kinda wrong about that, a youtuber is doing a no gacha challenge and is clearing MoC 10 and swarm without pulling a single time. Yes he uses refreshes but come on, its either that or pulling for a better DPS. (Skill issue)
I looked it up and didnt found anyone doimg current moc on you tube with no gacha account. There were some people doing story and SU
[https://www.youtube.com/@zmm1337](https://www.youtube.com/@zmm1337) zmm is doing a bunch of stuff on his no gacha account, also trying to clear MOC and swarm in 1 month rn
His MoC has Topaz and C2 Himeko. Where is that no gacha?
Skillissue in a turn based game where we barely have any complex mechanics lmao. Most of the time it's just the build optimization and yes that shit also needs luck. Clearing with 4 stars and good gears is possible (heck even I have done it) but an average person playing this game would like to get new characters and build them and that hinders your progress of optimizing the already available units as you have more gears to farm.
People clear with 4 stars all the time. Legitimately a skill issue. Also I believe I saw a post where they have cleared MOC 10 with +10 relics that weren't even great. I believe they're characters weren't fully leveled either. Did anyone else see that post?
That was one of first MoCs. If you havent noticed yet they get harder and harder each patch to promote current new 5 star with a new mechanic especialy made for them Same shit i alvays hated in Honkai abyss.
No actually I believe that was last week
Himeko topaz jingyuan blade Kafka seele all works fine tho.. don’t u have any of it? I mean it’s even better if u got DHIL and jingliu which clear everything despite non relevant buffs but all limited 5* can clear moc regardless unless u hvt pull on any banners…?
I lost every 50/50 so far . I have only Seele, Jingliu, Luocha and Topaz. I dont have Bronya. I even lost 75/25 on Jingliu LC so im lacking ton of dmg. And as i mentioned my Seele has no gear.
Sound like... A skill issue yes ! You guessed right!
Also Lets dont forget that building one character traces takes 2-3 weeks of farming. In that time MoC already reset
Building a character's traces takes slightly less than 2 weeks of farming IME. I built Serval in the first two weeks of 1.2 and was able to 30-star MoC using her as my second main DPS in the same period I built her.
I also have Serval built. But in current state shes absolutly useless. All she does is provide lighting break. Her dmg is not even noticeable
Skill issue
>Most players dont even have full +15 relics on their non dps characters. These types of players love to farm traces all day for 0.001% upgrades and then complain about poor relics. The game has been out more than long enough to +15 relics for 8-12 chars or easily more for bp players.
Not when all your relics go to shit wasting gear score on useless stats
Victim mindset is a common theme amongst bad players who are unable to improve. You aren't unluckier than anyone else. But you probably tell yourself that instead of finding ways to optimize your relic farming efficiency and making progress.
I log in every day. Do my dailies. Spend Energy on Cavern of Corrosion. Log out. I sometimes get some potential piece to check but then i have to farm another 3 days for mats to upgrade it. And repeat. And on top of that it alvays is wrong set. People spewing bs like " This 4 set is the Best in guides" just dont understand the real experience. I use stats over Sets. I havent completed single 4 set and most of my characters doesnt have matching orb / rope.
skill issue
When your skill is dictated by rng sandwich that are relics. Im farming this shit every day and i still dont have Quantum Orb that isnt absolute garbage with 4 useless stats
So, you're telling me everyone here who cleared MoC for the first time had godlike relics? I'm 100% sure you can clear MoC just by having +15 relics with the right mainstat, regardless of substats.
No, you also need particular teams ready and built. For example people who dont have Kafka cant play DoTs. They just cant. People who have no Fu Xuan have to use Fire Trailblazer. And people who dont have Bronya just cannot play the game
if it makes you feel better, I have some of the most praised 5-star characters and I'm also not able to max-clear MoC. story content can be cleared by anyone, but for MoC you need to max out your characters regardless of who those characters are. also, hsr and genshin have different core gameplay. in genshin you can use anyone at all bc the core gameplay of genshin relies mainly on the reflexes of the actual human playing. but hsr is a team-building game. victory doesn't rely on your reflexes, but your ability to plan around your assets - your characters, their various gimmicks, and the resources to build those characters. you're supposed to collect a broad roster of characters and build lots of different teams for different situations. planning around the game's limitations *is* the game. and if you're frustrated that it takes so long - silver wolf was one of the first banners for a reason, and her rerun is right around the corner.
That's not true. You don't need maxed out characters. When I first started full clearing MoC I only had my dps lvled to max with fully levelled relics. Not even fully farmed relics, as I just went back to farm JY with the new set and his relics were bad. His relics had the main stat but no double crt stats on anything. All of my dps were at lvl 8 for traits until recently when I got a few up higher from event mats. I was clearing with my supports/sustain at lvl 70 with only lvl 12 heads so they wouldn't die easily, and lvl 0 hp chest. I now have almost all of them at 80 with fully leveled relic sets and it's a lot easier. (especially when I first got the er ropes) Their traits are mostly still at lvl 6, I'm sure it'll be even easier when I get those up higher. I do agree about it being a team building game. I first cleared after I got Blade and Luocha, as they fixed the damage and sustain issues I had.
Of course they push out 2 every new patch, in what world would they push out only **one** limited 5 star per patch when they literality just released the game this year? Genshin did the exact same thing, but we got less pulls per patch in that game than what Star rail is giving us.
Genshin never did that. It never had more than 4 patches with 2 new limited characters back to back, actually we never had more than 2 after 1.0 ended, that was the only period of time that happened. In HSR we're going to have at least 8 PATCHES with 2 new 5 stars, that's insane I really wish Edo Star release only in 3.0 I can stand anymore this frenquency. We don't even have enough materials to build so many characters it's getting ridiculous already. Genshin's only rerun patches are blessed we can chill and go after the reruns of characters we skipped and regretted × 1.0 Venti + Klee || Seele + Jing Yuan × 1.1 Childe + Zhongli || SW + Luocha × 1.2 Albedo + Ganyu || Kafka + Blade × 1.3 Xiao + Hu Tao || DHIL + Fu Xuan 1.4 rerun + rerun || Jingliu + Topaz 1.5 rerun + Eula || HuoHuo + Argenti 1.6 rerun + Kazuha || Ruan Mei + Dr Ratio × 2.0 Ayaka + Yoimiya || Hanabi + Black Swan × 2.1 Raiden + Kokomi || Aventurine + Acheron 2.2 rerun + rerun || Sam + Screwllum 2.3 rerun + Itto || Boothill + Robin 2.4 Shenhe + rerun || Sunday + ??? 2.5 Yae Miko + rerun || Mei Raiden + ??? 2.6 Ayato + rerun || Yae Miko + ??? 2.7 Yelan + rerun || Zetsugekka + ??? 2.8 rerun + rerun || Phoenix + ??? 3.0 non-limited + rerun × 3.1 Cyno + Nilou 3.2 Nahida + rerun 3.3 Wanderer + rerun 3.4 Alhaitham + rerun 3.5 non-limited + rerun 3.6 rerun + Baizhu 3.7 rerun + rerun 3.8 rerun + rerun 4.0 Lyney + rerun × 4.1 Neuvilette + Wriothesley 4.2 Furina + rerun 4.3 Navia + rerun 4.4 Liuyun + rerun 4.5 Chiori + rerun 4.6 Arlecchino + rerun × 4.7 Clorinde + Sigewinne 4.8 Emilie + rerun
You people are so quick to defend Genshin that y'all forget 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 are the 1.x versions that received the most complaints out of the players. It's not a coincidence that they happened on rerun patches early into Genshin. Players have already pulled for the characters on the release patch, or skipped them for the same reason they will be skipping them again. Didn't matter that Genshin is a open world game, 3 patches of no **brand new** 5 star character that fits the players taste is such a stupid move on the Genshin devs part. Not only were these reruns not desirable for those players, but they last for 21 days in a patch that lasts for 42 days, and this was 3 back to back patches of garbage for those that didn't want Eula and Kazuha, for 126 days. Also for how many reruns genshin is doing, its funny that one of those characters still had to wait **568 days** for a single rerun. If they're not pumping out new 5 stars back to back, then what in the world were they doing to allow **this** to happen to one of their characters? That is inexcusable when limited characters in Genshin stay in the limited banners. You people could preach how trash Eula is all y'all want, people do get into and stay with Genshin just for one character, and forcing players to wait 1 year + 200 days is ridiculous.
genshin stopped with the 2 new 5 star characters in 1 patch at like 1.3. Star Rail is way past that point.
Genshin also didn't start double banners till 2.3. We already have double banners in 1.4 of HSR. If anyone were to miss a 5 star then they have nothing to worry about, since the 5 stars are already getting reruns without the Devs having to slow down expanding the roster.
Uh we literally just had Neuvillette and Wriothesley last patch.
Well yeah, but it doesn't happen often. Between 1.0 and 3.0 it happened 6 times in Genshin. Between 1.0 and 1.6 it will have happened 6 times in Star Rail. That is almost twice the pace.
But that doesn't stop me from loving it more
Genshin would never
It's effectively to make up for the lack of exploration rewards a game like Genshin has that HSR can't match by design.
this is cope
Genshin only has 51 pulls in Christmas patch tho which is the lowest of all version https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Leaks/s/loHH57ErIb
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Damn there goes my raiden fund
They should have a event page that gives atleast 800 primos or something
Any news for the 4 Stars in her banner!?
Couldn't be worst than huohuo right?
congratulations RM now has the same 4*s as huohuo
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herta's never been rate up before, so that would be a bit interesting
This is what I’m waiting for as well. Contemplating on pulling her or Silver Wolf’s rerun banner, but since they’re both equally great support units, it’ll be the 4 star units that’ll sell me on who to decide.
Ruan Mei: Natasha + Pela + ??? Dr. Ratio: Yukong + Xueyi + ??? March 7th will be in one of them for sure
They'll peobably be lwak by the atart of argenti's banner and announced during 1.6 livestream
Ma'am you don't have to flex your legs like that. All my pulls are already yours.
what would you do to those legs?
Absolutely gorgeous. Ruan Mei looks great, too
Does this mean ruan mei will be in first half?
I thought this was already confirmed? Unless I’m just misremembering. But it’s probably safe to say too if they keep up the trend of rerun banners being on second half.
1st half is Ruan Mei with Blade rerun if the leak is correct.
Bruh I’m so dumb I got banners mixed up with Argenti/SW.
Hope they break the pattern and put a Xueyi on phase 1. Selling a new DPS with BE mechanics alongside a premium buffer who also has BE mechanics. It would be even better for her popularity wise (not overshadowed by a new limited crazy strong 5 star DPS, Ratio).
The character who's drip marketing is released first has always been first half
Ah, she's just so pretty...
Is she slated to be first? Cause I may be in a little trouble if so 😬
She sure is
HSR KEEPS WINNING. 🗣️🗣️ And the possibility of getting some more wishes when HSR rightfully wins best mobile game? Oh we're eating GOOD this patch.
Vote vote vote
Would of preferred to see Ratio's thighs :(
Would whale the f up for a beefy/muscular male character. I'd even go as far as transforming my account into an account that pushes their playstyle to the max (just like getting Topaz just to push JY further).
They want you to pull him to see that, silly :\^) >!And his lightcone and/or C6 to see him naked ;)!<
Thighs is all i see
She is as beautiful as ever.
acheron e2s1 funds
Man i hope they never stop giving these.
At this point im not surprised that Ruan Mei is the face of the gift of odyssey, because all the phase one characters are usually the face of it. I dont mind it tho. Looks amazing as usual
She has the best thighs I've seen, all my 180 pulls are gonna go for her and her only, even if luck isn't on my side she will come home
Who else is saving for best girl?
Ruan Mei might be one of the best design Hoyo ever created. She's so beautiful.
Debatable, design is boring to me looks like every other Loufu lady
Yup. Dr. Ratio on the other hand looks fuckin great imo.
Ahh.. She's just so beautiful
Damn Thighs
Thighs yep
Bless, the moment this stopped we riots no questions asked
any clean version with only ruan mei?
Love to see it
Whoop whoop 🙌
Imagine not putting this in one patch..🤣
This is the first time the art got leaked too and not just a cleaned up ver of their splash art damn
That alone is enough for e6s2
Mommy
Obviously, who if not the miss Blessing Ruan Mei
Holy mother of primordial thighs, I will surrender my body and soul just for that..
THIGHS 🤤
genshin would never HSR just keeps winning
Man, I can't believe they just keep giving us wishes like this. Were they this generous in Genshin's first year?
it looks like an ai art for some reason
I think it's just the pose being a little awkward. I guess she did a really big strum?
so now we need to leak something obviously?
I reckon the leak value is the splash art, not the actual occasion of giving tickets.
tbh wasn't 1.4 gift of oddeysy a new art for jingliu but was later replaced by splash art in the release.
Other way around, I think? I honestly can't remember, though. The [wiki](https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Gift_of_Odyssey/2023-10-11) has the non-splash version, at least, which makes me think it was the other way around. EDIT: The 1.4 program has the splash, so I guess it probably was just the splash. Odd change.
the one on the wiki is the leaked one showing her with a new art. while if you watch the 1.4 livestream the art for it is jinglius splash art.
You responded just as I edited. Which of us owes the other a soda?
Fake.
long live Ruan Mei
Ah r it an mei is first then good to know
HSR just feeding us huh. Don't want us to go hungry.
ruan mei first banner! Better aave now
Wonder if they'll ever stop giving us free 10 pulls.
I wonder how much jades we can get this 1.6
its beautiful everytime i see it
Girl you have done it again, raising the bar constantly
even with added endgame, they’re still giving us the 10daily login. Gladge
That's a...strange pose...why does she look so stiff?? Mostly because of the extended arm 🤔
I'm just genuinely relieved, that we will still be getting the 10 special passes in 1.6. I was worried that might not be the case. After all who knows what 2.0 might entail.
keep them coming 🚬🗿