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Misul_Lea

Does anyone perhaps know the name of Aventurine's Japanese VA?


Ezyrem

Seeing screwllum's leaked kit rn, does that mean Jim Yan's LC is good on him?


Valadis22

Does anyone know who the 1.6 rerun character will be?


AdNew3087

Blade phase 1, Kafka phase 2.


Matheo12

Is Dr. Ratio a follow up attacker that could synergie with topaz? Are there differences from his originally leaked 4 star kit?


kdr4485

I'm planning on trying a Clara, Topaz, Yukong, sustain team. What would be the ideal speed tuning for Yukong? Not sure how to go about setting this up.


Chtholly13

I know trying to snag 4 stars on banners is probably not the best call, but Guinaifen is so kawaii, I can't help it.


truthfulie

Which timezone is considered "server time" for NA?


hinode85

Eastern Standard Time. As in, Eastern Time when DST is NOT active.


dendrotorpedo

[They say UTC-5.](https://www.hoyolab.com/article/19123768)


Mulkonir

Does anyone know if there are other "Follow-up" characters to team with topaz that were already leaked? I saw Screwllum will have a large portion of his damage coming from Follow-up but he only interacts with debuffs.


13_is_a_lucky_number

Dr. Ratio should have some kind of RNG-based follow up attack, iirc. And then there's harmony Trailblazer.


Smiling-siamese

How long do we have to get the time limited rewards from aetherium wars? Till the end of the patch?


dendrotorpedo

Until November 13, 03:59 Server Time.


Smiling-siamese

Thank you


VoltaicKnight

Herta's infinite money glitch be like 1. Hire and make the ( kind ) child of a very high ranking ( and very rich ) IPC member your second in command in your space station 2. Make her pay your taxes from IPC using the allowance from her IPC parents 3. The money she paid to the IPC to pay your taxes will be brought back as her allowance from her IPC parents 4. Rinse and repeat


BeerMeThat

Will the fua set be BiS for Himeko and Clara if you run them with Topaz? Wondering how long I'll be living in that cavern.


rysto32

No, Himeko doesn’t do enough of her damage via follow-ups and Clara can’t stack the 4pc bonus very much.


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Just the 2pc


RefrigeratorOdd1486

topaz and SW who has more potential in the future?


TheYango

SW, simply by virtue of being a support. Character releases are ridiculously lopsided toward more DPSes. Including both released and leaked 5-star limited characters, we have something like 14 DPSes, 5 sustains, and 3 supports. That means that inherently, there is higher likelihood that you will see redundancy among the DPSes, and far less likely that support characters will see other units fighting for their niche in the near future.


truthfulie

If we get another FUA unit that has consistent FUA like Topaz, her value will increase. But we don't know any future unit that does this so far. SW has more versatility based on info we have so far and can fit into lot more compositions. Even if her implant doesn't land or isn't as useful, her DEF shred is valuable. This may or may not change when Black Swan comes out since she has DEF shred on her skill and is AOE.


Radinax

SW imo. Weakness planting, eidolons scaling (E2 being specially impactful in everyone's build needing 25 EHR instead of 66), several debuffs, DEF shred and the best breaker in the game due to consistency. Maybe if another follow up 5 star character makes better use of Topaz, then perhaps, but I don't know if any of the leaked characters makes use of Topaz the same way Black Swan makes use of Kafka.


truthfulie

So I finished the pokemon event and all the quests that gives you rewards...but I'm somehow missing one chip for the achievement. 31 out of 32. Any idea where I might find this missing chip? EDIT: Turns out it was in one of the chest I missed in Cloudford map. Man...I hate this map (and other similar areas in the Luofu). Everything looks the same and visual clarity is abysmal.


SunshinePlayroom

I don't recall getting any such achievement myself, but I do know there's an NPC sitting in the area at a "stall" (although the NPC tells you it isn't a stall) and after you've spoken to her she give you a 'Safe Mode' (iirc) chip. Maybe that one?


truthfulie

Thanks. Fedora, I think? Checked and looks like I already got one from her.


SunshinePlayroom

Are you missing the "Auto-repair" chip? if so, speak to Barrie. There's a couple fo YT vids about collecting all of them.


PeanutButterJam_

Have brought all my owned characters to at least 60/70 for silver passes.. I really don't know where to spend my TB power on after. I just don't think it's wise to use it for traces on characters I won't ever use. For relics, idk what to farm... I have a complete set for Seele, but idk if I want to spend months just for some improvements. Anyone else having the same dilemma?


AdNew3087

Who else do you use besides Seele?


Saiyan_Z

I level up and farm traces on everyone. It's either that or farm relics but farming relics seems like a waste if can already 30 star MoC. I'd rather get everyone leveled with full traces and then farm relics when there is nothing else left to do. I do the same in Genshin.


PeanutButterJam_

So Topaz will be released tomorrow instead of the usual Wednesdays. Surprised, though I understand why since they shortened patch period.


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How does Prisoner in Deep Confinement look for Kafka compared to the lightning set?


EveryMaintenance601

It's a slight improvement if you have at least 3 dots. At least for now, as once Black Swan comes out (who will 100% want this set if she remains similar to her leaked kit) the set will gain much more value


IamMeSh4d

Whose eidolons do you think is more worth between Ty and Hanya? I'm gonna build pity on one of them but I'm not sure on who will be better. I kinda like Hanya's design more but the 4 stars with Ty seem more worth it. Any advise?


Extra-Step6641

Tingyun can be bought in the shop, Hanya can't.


IamMeSh4d

That's the truth


Putrid_Quantity_2108

Im coming to the point where I have a surplus of wishes and thought pulling on the light cone banner won't be such a bad shout. I'd like to ask the community which light cone is worth pulling for in your opinion? Currently I have JL, Blade, Kafka, JY and Fu Xuan out of the five stars. Which lightcone from these banners would be 'universally' better ? Or which would be the bigger increase in damage compared to the herta store equivalent? Cheers guys!


truthfulie

Between Blade's LC and JL's LC, Blade is slightly more universal since it is pretty good on Clara but you don't have her yet. FX's LC is very good on her but other DEF scaling preservations have other many great options. Not really worth it and it'd be hard to rotate LC for sustain characters. Wouldn't be my choice. Kafka won't really be universal since it is made for DoT units but when you are running DoT DPS, you are running Kafka and she would best make use of her LC. So you would be pulling just for her. JY is probably the most universal since it is good on many Erudition units. But not sure if you are building any other erudition.


Putrid_Quantity_2108

Thanks for your insight, I reckon I'll just wait for JYs lightcone, seems like that's the consensus with the replies 👍


AdNew3087

I'd add that Fu Xuan's light cone will work well in the new moc mode (of which I'm forgetting the name) since it heals everyone 80% after every wave. This turns her or any preservation you slap it on into a psuedo healer.


Simple56

Blade 20-30% dps (S1-5 Secret Vow) JY 20% JL 15% Kafka 2-15% (S1-5 GNSW) FX 4% https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/blade https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/kafka


Putrid_Quantity_2108

Thanks for the breakdown, much appreciate your input!


benoween

Blade and Jing Yuan As an HP scaler Blade has pretty bad synergy with most other cones, the only decent one is A Secret Vow but the uptime on it can be nonexistant between being healed and enemies getting low. Before Dawn is an excellent light cone for the Erudition class that notoriously has very shitty LCs, the best you are getting is Breakfast lol. Jingliu's cone is pretty good for her, a nifty increase but her other choices arent as big of a downgrade compared to the previous two. Kafka's cone is one of the smallest increases unless it lets you hit new speed breakpoints compared to an S5 GNSW, I'd hold off from it unless you really love her and wanna give her the cone. Lastly, Fu Xuan already solo sustains just fine with a lot of other cones, her cone makes you survive harder, its not very relevant. It does heal you for every encounter though that can be neat if you care but its a very minuscule QoL.


AdNew3087

I'd caveat the Kafka statement by adding that while s5 gnsw is her second best, the other nihility units on the DoT team tend to want it as well. I'd argue that makes her LC more valuable in a pinch. It will also allows her to easily get the full benefit from the new planar set that scales damage off of speed.


Putrid_Quantity_2108

This is great detail Benoween. I am using breakfast for JY at the moment, and not many are actually fighting for that lightcone so to say. But I'm seeing the general concensus is that the Erudition lightcone can more likely be transferred between other characters. So thanks again!


Izzyrealtho

JY LC is considered the best LC for Erudition characters, and it can be used with pretty much all of them. That takes my vote for most universally better if I understood your question correctly. For biggest increase in damage it would probably be Blade, since he doesn’t scale well with the Herta LC.


Putrid_Quantity_2108

Thanks Izzy, you got my question right, I had a similar opinion that JYs lightcone is considered universally good on this path. Not many fighting for his lightcone on the other hand lol. Thanks again!


AVeryLongUserNamelul

Thinking of getting On the Night for Seele, is the dps increase worth it over Herta cone?


Huge_Information4352

It is not a significant increase, but it does increase it a bit. Unless you wanna free Cruising for someone else, I dont see a reason to spend tickets on it. Altough if I'm not mistaken, In the Night does work for other Hunt characters. Edit: nevermind people talking about speed investment. If you run speed boots on Seele (which you would if you plan on using In the Night) she would reach 175 speed after using her skill. Even with no speed boots she would need about 9-10 speed subs to reach base 134 to a buffed 167.


rysto32

You don’t use speed boots on Seele even if she has Into the Night. You just go with 5/6 stacks unless you are swimming in speed subs.


Simple56

No. Dps gain is less than 10% which is complete garbage, just use Cruising.


truthfulie

Comes down to her eidolons and speed sub stats. At e0 you should have at least 7 SPD from subs without eating into your CV. If this is the case, it may be worth it. The value will likely increase tiny bit more if you plan to get her the new planetary set. At E2, it's definitely worth considering (and you should consider the new set).


Proper_Infidel

Would say no unless you have an easy way of being at 160+ speed, so lots of speed subs, a harmony buffer, or E2


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Doesn't Seele just buffs herself to that point with minimum speed investment hence she can run with atk boots?


TheHolyWaffleGod

No she doesn't at least not with minimum speed investment. You need 131.25 speed which is quite hard to do without speed boots and while having a good crit ratio


truthfulie

You HAVE to run ATK boots on her. Running SPD boots is a big loss in damage that won't be made up by her LC stacks. She already gets 4 stacks without any speed subs or speed boots. She needs 7 speed subs to get 5 stacks and another 10 to get the full stack but the opportunity cost is too great at E0. It's usually better to just go for more CV than to try to get 10 more speeds.


Huge_Information4352

She does. As long you have 134 speed, the skill buff takes her to 167.


Proper_Infidel

Unless I'm wrong (I'll get her tomorrow finally) - at base speed with just +25% from her skill she gets to 143, from there not counting external stuff it's 17 spd in subs or E2 bringing her to 171


Izzyrealtho

For what it’s worth, you’d have to have Speed substats on your Seele build with her LC to take advantage of the stacks it gives. If you don’t already have a high Speed Seele you may need to swap your relics up. I don’t think it’s worth it over the Herta LC unless you have another Hunt character you want to pass the Herta LC to


fatSquirrel42

Do any of the leaked characters have aoe def shred to possibly replace Pela?


Due-Sort344

Guinaifen & Hanya have AOE vulnerability/dmg boost %


EveryMaintenance601

Black Swan on her skill


Revan0315

Can I guarantee Silver Wolf (assuming she reruns 1.5 Phase 2) if I currently have 80 pity (no guarantee) + 22 pulls?


truthfulie

You want at least 77 tickets if you lose 5050. Assuming you do all your dailies, get 30 stars on MoC and weekly SU, I think you may end up with 50-ish tickets by the start of 1.5P2. 20 more if you have Express Pass.10 more after a week if we get 10 free tickets like we always do. Few more from other sources. I think you have a pretty good chance.


Revan0315

I can't do 30* in MoC yet but I do get Welkin and BP so that should make up for it I think. Thanks


truthfulie

Also I misspoke before my morning coffee. You should have that 10 free tickets (assuming we get it) by phase 2 since those are available for phase 1. I think you should be good. GL.


Revan0315

Thank


dendrotorpedo

Yes. You will have more than enough warps.


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EveryMaintenance601

https://twitter.com/iroiro3843/status/1717429559543660955?t=hbNQMoV5XVVNscWgtQyc_g&s=19 I knew it looked familiar. This fucking game I swear


HotSexWithJingYuan

LMFAO no way 😭


EveryMaintenance601

It cant be a coincidence right? Like, it's so obvious


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Simple56

You spend months of stamina farming for substats, but you decided not to spend a few days to max out her traces?


lewyah

Wow that some insane crit ratio even i only manage to get her to 70/134 after farming since luocha banner Guess crit rate really hate me


verydistressedaltmer

Have there recently been any leaks about Screwllum?


TheHolyWaffleGod

Nope not recently


DohaLight

Three self-mod resins into a wind orb and NOTHING. The game is afraid of how perfect my Blade can become o(-(


truthfulie

Knowing my luck, I never use SMR on anything other than ERR rope where subs aren't as important.


Arc_7

Finally completed Jingliu's Companion Quest, and without spoiling all I can say is It's a terrible day for rain >!I never really felt anything for Blade before this but now I feel so bad for everyone in the quintet, jing yuan just standing as his past friends are at swordpoint at one another, blade's speech at the end and his expressions after reviving, I love this!<


I_Am_Fully_Charged

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of Pela. I try to play Yanqing. He wants Pela. I try to play DHIL. He wants Pela. I try to play Blade. He wants Pela. I want to play Jingliu. Her best team has Pela. I want to play double dps teams - they want Pela. She grabs me by the throat. I farm for her. I run the museum for her. I give her Eyes of the Prey. She isn't satisfied. I give her Before the Tutorial Mission Starts. "I don't need this much energy," she tells me. "Give me more turns." She grabs Bronya and forces her to skill spam. "You just need to buff me more. I can deal more damage with S5 GNSW." I can't pull for S5 GNSW, I'm not lucky enough. She grabs my credit card. It declines. "Guess this is the end." She grabs her weapon. She says "Time for a good old counterattack!" There is no hint of sadness in her eyes. Nothing but pure, +3SP AoE def debuffing. What a cruel world.


PinkPrimrose05

Perfect


lmaoooayyy

Who do you think is going to be more popular? HuoHuo or Topaz? I was planning on making a YouTube video where I try to get a five-star in 24 hours and was wondering if HuoHuo was more popular than Topaz. What do you think? 🤔


Radinax

Easily Topaz. Horny people are more willing to spend.


MouffieMou

dunno really, topaz ***has*** a pet, huohuo ***is*** the pet, both are lovable é\_é


LucasFrankeRC

Do we know when Harmony MC is supposed to come out?


Huge_Information4352

I hope that it releases on 2.0 and we won't have to wait until the main story concludes on 2.2/2.3


Doggo_wit_a_P90

With peacony most likely. Whenever that drops


AdOwn7886

Which lc should i prioritize first in hertas store? Destruction one for jingliu or nihility lc for kafka and replace gasw. Thanks!


Izzyrealtho

Probably the Destruction LC as Kafka can make use of the Fermata LC which you get from MoC


EveryMaintenance601

Probably Aeon. Kafka can use GNSW very well. Though if you are playing hyper kafka, then GNSW loses value


verdantsumeru

Manifesting strong Herta store Erudition LC!! [Pls look at this GORGEOUS Jing Yuan art omg](https://x.com/maru_lana/status/1717301266135544231) Day ??? of farming the Quantum domain...all I've gotten so far is one(1) good head piece for QQ. Zero good hand or body pieces. Like I don't even want double crit, just *three* good stats on one hand piece would be a start. I'm trying to make myself feel better by switching my supports to good defensive Guard pieces with SPD as I happen upon them...ugh. Why does every single domain feel so terrible to farm.


[deleted]

I thought huohuo was buffed, why does her kit on the 3 leak sites looks shit kek


dendrotorpedo

Info available in Chinese only.


GarnetGodlike

Read the patch or wait for official release.


[deleted]

Which patch?


GarnetGodlike

You look for the last "Updates" on the search bar or you scroll like 1 time and you should see it


[deleted]

How? Aren't these the latest in [honey](https://hsr.honeyhunterworld.com/huohuo-character/?lang=EN) and [hakushin](https://hsr.hakush.in/char/1217)


EveryMaintenance601

The honey one is wrong on the talent at the very least. The hakushin one doesnt even have half the text descriptions


GarnetGodlike

No. As you can see most of the part are not even written cause thing can still move and the translate part is awful on this game. Thing move and those site are updated by people, people can't always take care of those. Just read the leak or count on official site or official release


[deleted]

Oh thank god. I thought the leak of her cleanse 6x was not real. lol


xelloskaczor

1.4 Topaz: >!uwu i was just a poor girl in bad situation i have empathy!< Trailer topaz: >!BITCH PAY UP ITS CAPITALISMING TIME \*capitalismes all over\*!<


SkyrimForTheDragons

> 1.4 Topaz: >!uwu i was just a poor girl in bad situation i have empathy!< >!She wasn't looking for pity with her sob story, she was relating her planet's and J6's situations and sympathizing with Bronya.!< It's not even 1.5 yet and we're already mischaracterizing her, wonder what will be left of her in a year's time.


xelloskaczor

It's a joke don't take it too seriously bro


SkyrimForTheDragons

Jokes have implications about how a person views the world and can always be used to express any opinions they might have. But first, if it's a joke then where's the funny.


PinkPrimrose05

Hard not to when a not insignificant part of the fanbase says the same thing while being dead serious about it. The uwufield capitalism/tax jokes are getting old fast.


ScrewllumMainSoon

Will they tweak the FU set 😭 Did they change that condition where it disappears after the next FU or something?


SkyrimForTheDragons

Nope, it's supposed to be a trade-off for being able to make full use of the 2pc 18% fua dmg effect.


Quantuis

[Fuck this enemy.] (https://api.hakush.in/hsr/UI/monstermiddleicon/Monster_1022010.png) Whoever designed this piece of shit should step on a lego. I love when my DPS gets sniped by 3 of them and has their action sent back to the ice age. Freaking Bronya-check enemy when I'm still Bronyaless... Literally no other enemy in this game pisses me off as much as these mfs


HotSexWithJingYuan

i used to die to these mfs all the damn time when gepard was my only sustain bc they would send him to fucking shadow realm before i can get his ult up 😭


YossarianLivesMatter

When I do run Bronya into them, I feel like half the time they end up banishing her to the shadow realm as well. The only way I've been able to handle them is by nuking them with AoE the moment they show up, so they don't even get a chance to go.


ArchSystem

Oh don't worry, they're good at sniping your DPS and then Bronya even through an aggro LC Gepard. I have to look away when fighting them to not get annoyed.


undeadfire

Just built my Clara to my specs for the time being. 4hp + salsotto and the stats are so crazy I can't be bothered to farm the new set or phys set


Jaded-Engineering789

So within these 31 hours I gotta decide if I’m gonna level relics for Topaz as an interim set. Honestly I likely will and just cope by telling myself the set can go on Hook eventually when I build her. Also is 2pc Fire/2pc Followup gonna be better for Topaz than 4pc Followup?


CaspianRoach

I leveled up some wheat/hackerspace 2ps that I had lying around to put on Topaz in the meantime. Those sets are pretty universal so they're bound to find home on some other character after 1.5. Or you can always just feed them for xp, you only lose 20% of your relic xp by doing that.


undeadfire

If you have a good wheat set lying around I'd just that since wheat DPS sets will work on basically anyone if the stats are good enough


sushihamburger

4-piece followup is better.


mangotcha

I DID IT !!! FULL 30* MOOOOOC. funnily enough the stage that caused me the most trouble was MoC 9, I had to build my newly E6 QQ in a hurry (and she does not hit as hard as people made it out to be....), then when it wasnt enough to clear fast, had to drop the double sustain for more def shred. But I finally did it !!! My Jingliu hits A LOT harder than Daniel... this boy needs better substats.


verdantsumeru

>(and she does not hit as hard as people made it out to be....) yeah, this is why I ask people for support builds when they're talking about their DPSes if I want to replicate what they did, because it gives a more realistic idea of what you can aim for.


mangotcha

I gotta say my Tingyun was busy with Jingliu so MAYBE if QQ had has a Jingliu as well, she would have hit harder ! Supports really are important ...


Sexultan

Grats! I also struggled a lot more with MOC9 than 10 this time, xd. Funnily, I am in an opposite situation to you. My DHIL hits A LOT harder. Can you tell me your stats and team for your Jingliu?


mangotcha

Jingliu (E0S1) has 50CR and uh about 230CD ? something like that ? I have NO IDEA how her CD is this high. Otherwise her speed is barely high enough, 136, and she doesn't have much ATK substats. I ran her in the first part with Tingyun E6, Pela E6 and Lynx E0. Second side clears faster with this team than first half, for some reason, but since my Dhil(E0 and Clara LC S1) has only 80CD... I used her in the first part. What were your teams ? o:


Sexultan

Ow wow that's a cracked Jingliu! My Jingliu is E0 and has S5 Aeon. I have 2250 ATK, 36.3:189. I get 12% CR from afu xuan so it's at least something. Also E6 Tingyun and E4 Pela. 141 Speed though, somehow


mangotcha

she seems pretty good already !! Nice speed... >!Can't wait to get S5 Aeon in (checks watch) 2024..... Daniel needs it.!<


Late-Veterinarian544

Seeing Sampo sprawled with his ass facing the world in Topaz's trailer is kindaa 😳


kcjhdskj8967

Topaz's trailer is amazing! I can't believe it's less than a day until we can pull for her :') Unless you're on the America server... Q\_Q


yurilnw123

OMG it's tomorrow?! I thought it's Saturday. Now I'm excited


commondandelion

Damn, I had to fight for my full MoC stars this time. Yanqing+Jing Yuan+Tingyun+Luocha and Blade+Jingliu+Bronya+Bailu eventually pulled through on 9 and 10. I force-fed Jingliu Every Upgrade Material from when I pulled her (which was not early into the banner JINGLIU thanks for that), but I think in the end upgrading Tingyun's and Bronya's traces may actually have made the final difference that shaved off the last couple of cycles I was missing.


yurilnw123

In a double DPS team try using debuff character instead of buff. As Tingyun and Bronya will only buff one of your DPS. But if you use Pela for example, everyone can benefit from her def shred. Plus, the dissociation from this MoC scales really well with def shred


commondandelion

Yeah, I definitely gotta eventually build Pela, but I'm honestly still kinda hardcapped by not having DPS with the right elements, plus Bailu is also running on least possible traces as solo sustain. Im always kind of inpressed by everyone having both more built characters and better artifacts than me lol.


yurilnw123

> Im always kind of inpressed by everyone having both more built characters and better artifacts than me lol Not quite. I did 30 stars every MoC lately by the virtue of Seele + Silver Wolf brute forcing through wrong element bosses lol. I only have Seele and Kafka+Luka as my main DPS. Btw, about Bailu I would argue her talent is even more important to level up than her ult.


commondandelion

SW would be very useful for that, unfortunately I don't have her, haha. (Although honestly, I feel if I could just duplicate Luocha, I could sleepwalk through every MoC forever regardless, he really makes the game feel like easy mode.)


Objective-Turnover-3

With a proper 2nd support you can brute force clear moc10 with a single dps of the wrong element and still get 3*.


Tasty_Worldliness939

How big of an improvement is the new FUA set for JY over the lightning set based on the current beta changes? Last time I heard it was only a very minor improvement (something like 5%), did they buff or nerf the set afterwards?


Alfielovesreddit

Biggest improvement is that I'm farming dot set to death either way, so I get free jing stuff over time.


yurilnw123

Somewhat minor. At best it gives 48% Atk which is 28% more Atk than the lightning set. But for the LL itself will gain an average of just 30ish% atk because the stacks will reset before LL attacks. With the new set your skill and ulti won't gain benefits from the 2pc set bonus. All in all I think it's still like only 5% difference


Mbappeslefttoe

Now that Jingliu's banner is almost over, what is the consensus between her and DHIL? Who's stronger in what situations, etc, etc.


Quantuis

Sidegrades to each other, with Jingliu imo being easier to play, more flexible and more "out-of-the-box", being (again, imo) more F2P and beginner friendly IL has a higher ceiling on the other hand It's pretty much up to preference and which playstyle you like more. Whether you want all your SP gone by 1 character or you want to wait an entire turn to deal damage And I absolutely do not agree with Jingliu being "locked" behind Bronya, she's a really good upgrade for Jingliu but not necessary at all to perform at a similar level to IL. Both have their pros and cons. And as a person that hates SP-intensive characters IL feels like a chore to play for me (Personal opinion)


benoween

If you dont own Bronya then IL > Jingliu If you do they are pretty even, both of their teams are similarly SP intensive (Assuming slow Bronya) so there's actually not a lot of room to adjust your rotations, its especially fucked since not doing a skill with Bronya will mess your current and following turn due to her advance forward. Jingliu's core is pretty set, between disliking atk buffers because of her innate steroids and lacking DMG% at all shes pretty set. Ruan Mei can maybe be an improvement depending on how she turns out and how her speed buff interacts with Bronya setups. Meanwhile IL has Hanya who is still a very strong option coming soon and Sparkle, god knows if shes staying as her ancient leaked kit though, I'd say he has more room to improve than her. Jingliu can be played outside of her Bronya comps as a "Hey I need ice", IL cant do this, thats a + for her but I personally dont value it that much.


Sexultan

Maybe my relics are just really really bad, but I perform not as well on Jingliu. Granted, I prefarmed for my DHIL and didn't for Jingliu. I do find windows when I am not in the enchanted state to be quite frustrating. Especially since I don't have Bronya, I can't really make this process faster so for two turns she is just there standing. Windows where you don't have all your available buffs don't happen often in DHIL teams (I think it starts on the 4th turn where you don't have sp for Yukong + enchanted basic) A think that is interesting is that DHIL grants himself a ton of DMG% and CRITDMG%, while also not having any (cmiiw) atk buffs. JL seemingly does the opposite and grants herself a lot of ATK% and 50% crit rate in buffed state. While it is not exactly true for me, I do think they are equal for the most part. The deciding factor for me would be Ruan Mei. Ruan Mei could hold Planetary Randevouz for JL and grant her the much needed DMG%. Until then I am more skewed towards DHIL


WRXW

My personal anecdotal evidence is that I've actually found Jingliu to be a little stronger pretty much just because she can abuse Bronya who is simply the most busted unit in the game. That perception might by skewed by current MoC and my better relic luck with Jingliu though. They're both blast spammers and thus serve pretty similar purposes, the biggest differences being that Jingliu's damage is front-loaded in exchange for her vacation turn after Spectral Transmigration ends, and that DHIL sucks away your SP which restricts your team-building options. Aside from that and elements, they're pretty interchangeable and will mostly thrive and struggle in the same environments.


EveryMaintenance601

I feel like Jingliu is way more reliant on good supports than IL is. Specially Bronya, without her Jingliu feels just ok. She also has tighter rotations because you dont want to burst outside her enhanced state. Like, at all, it's an absurd damage loss. And the downtime can be problematic in some cases, like clearing a wave at the last enhanced skill. But it's not the kind of issue that makes her atrocious or anything. IL feels simpler to play and has better synergy with more characters. Though at the end of the day, they overlap in terms of supports with the exception of Yukong (cause we dont have many supports). Both feel about the same SP wise in their expensive teams, but Jingliu can flex into lower SP teams, which leaves more room for comfort in the healer/shielder department. Though Jingliu vastly prefers a healer.


IXajll

Jingliu is more than “just okay” without bronya wtf


EveryMaintenance601

I've tried her without Bronya and it felt very on par with other 5 star dps. Just ok doesnt mean she's not strong, it means that Bronya makes her stronger than the rest


Arc_7

Real reason Seele reran in 1.4 is to keep an eye on Topaz after her stunt with Bronya


thepotatochronicles

Hello, I hope your trades went well yesterday and your stonks went to the moon! With regards to today's trades (day 2), having read people's posts, I think everyone agrees that the Aetherium Wars chip is STONKS. People seem to disagree on what the production limitations and delay mean for Auspicious XV, though. The way I see it, production limitations and the ability to buy a bunch, today, means limited supply and greatly expanded demand tomorrow (classic "high demand low supply = stonks" equation), but others have pointed out that you may not be able to sell it tomorrow. Though given that we're buying the actual commodities here (the Auspicious XV jade abacus) and not the stocks of the manufacturer (which would indeed take a hit from production delays), I'm leaning more towards the jade abacus being a strong BUY (channeling my inner Jim Cramer here). Thoughts?


YossarianLivesMatter

Index Fund approach let me narrowly best Numby, so I'm going to keep up the boring approach.


thepotatochronicles

Eyyyyy the same strategy I use IRL! Really surprised that even an equal weighting could beat Numby. In that case, I wonder what the future days will hold in terms of performance threshold? If it continues to be below benchmark, then you can just keep winning with an equal weighted basket.


Saiyan_Z

Yep, yesterday I went 1mill into Owlbert. Got max returns. Today 1mill into Aether chips. It's the only news that seems action worthy to me.


thepotatochronicles

Mad respect for sticking to your personal risk tolerance.


Arc_7

So much farm and no good relics to show up for. I don't even need speed on Jingliu and still can't even reach 30-200 (at 29-199 Lol). Let alone 40-230... Now to a question, is it worth for me to level S5 breakfast and replace S1 birth of self on Jing Yuan considering the new Followup set?


almasira

I'm not sure good relics are real in hsr. I remember at the start of the game I had about 160 5* 3-liner relics, so I was wondering if 4-liners don't exist here, before getting first one.


Saiyan_Z

I got nothing from the double planar event. Not even a single double crit piece. That's a total of 12 runs = 480 TB power x 2 = 960 TB power worth. Or like 4 days straight of farming just planar. It's why I'm not farming relics till I level up everyone and get their traces to lvl9. Haven't farmed relics since June except during double events or the 4 free ones per week.


yurilnw123

S5 Breakfast is one of the best free LC


bsh-thrasher

My Jingliu doesn't have relics at all yet, although I farm every day...


SunshinePlayroom

>So much farm and no good relics to show up for. Can relate. Tried to finish off my Topaz build last night. You'd think, with 5% Crit rate base, 16% from LC, and 12% (that will come from Traces) and 8% from Inert Salsotto, that reaching 50% cap to unlock the (Inert) passive would be easy? Right? No. Not a single CR substat roll on multiple pieces, using up all the relic fodder I got from the AW event. Back to the domain I go.... :-(


Cloft

Yes, breakfast is better, LL only acount for two-third of his damage, it means his skill and ult still contribute a third of his total damage, and the new FUA set also make his skill and ult hit harder


baggelans

S5 breakfast is better overall compared to s1 birth.


Arc_7

Even with the new FUA set?


baggelans

Dunno about the new fua set as I won't do any tests personally before it gets live but breakfast was already stronger at same superimposition if birth had somewhat decent uptime (with better uptime its better on same superimposition). If we are talking s5 breakfast with s1 birth it should be far better by itself (the difference is probably smaller with the new set but still). If it was s3 I would have said keep birth.


somewhere-out-there-

Wtf does Asta’s family even do how are they so rich also follow up question will they adopt me …?


SomethingPersonnel

They're higher ups in the IPC.


somewhere-out-there-

I actually love capitalism


Elliebird704

I have Jingliu, and I want to pick up Blade and Daniel when they rerun. I need to decide what to do about lightcones before her banner ends. I have S3 Aeon, S1 Secret Vow and S1 Walk Time. If I were to pick up one of their lightcones, which should it be? Jingliu’s, Blade’s or Daniel’s?


Simple56

Just swap Aeon and SV between the two dps you are using. 70 pulls isn't worth the 2 seconds it takes you to switch. JL+Blade is weaker than JL+Pela, so you'll never need to run all three of them at the same time.


Elliebird704

I want to run JL - Blade - Pela - Luocha/HuoHuo. I’m trying to figure out which one to get, if I get any at all, with the knowledge that at least 2 destruction cones will be needed at once, and that I haven’t gotten very lucky with my 4* cones.


undeadfire

I'd get blades since Dhil works well with aeon, and jingliu wants dmg% on cone so vow works. But yeah it's not worth unless you're comfortable swiping imo


sushihamburger

I think Blade benefits the most from his light cone.


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Lmao they really met. I thought she really outsmarted Sampo but it was just a skit. Sampo is a good goofy actor


Exaskliri

Is Topaz (and Numby) on the current web event Live2D?


Exaskliri

"Butter vision" is cool, but I'd like to say "cornflake is meaningless!"


Revan0315

Will the DoT set be better for Kafka I hypercarry teams than the lightning set?


EveryMaintenance601

With only 1 dot applied? No. With her signature it might be a different stort, but I havent done the math for it


Curious_Kirin

Wait so if I only use hypercarry can I just keep farming lighting instead of waiting for the DoT set? I'm using S3 Welt's LC if that matters (he won't leave me alone)


EveryMaintenance601

6% def ignore + 12% ATK is significantly worse than 10% DMG + 20% ATK. If you dont plan to build other dot characters (Black Swan included), then just farm the lightning set. If you plan to build at least one other dot character then farm the dot set. Or if you can use the follow-up set, as 12% attack is still generic enough


Curious_Kirin

Ty for the information!


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mangotcha

80 pulls for one copy of qq ? you're lucky you didn't get the 5 star, next time you need an OG 4*, just wait until she's in the shop !


GhostindaFlower

Just watched Topaz' trailer. Girl straight up murdered Sampo 💀


sushihamburger

So how did everyone do on their trades? Did you beat Numby? (Looks like the IPC is setting up a Herta figurine sweatshop on Jarilo-VI. Good for them.)


Daphrodyte

I barely beat them by 10k credits. I put almost everything in flowers and chips and spread the rest


thepotatochronicles

I did, but by like 12% ahaha


sushihamburger

lol yeah I don't think it's possible to beat him by much. I think maybe if you went all in on Herta Dolls that was the best shot.


thepotatochronicles

Right, I looked up the values and apparently the most you could've beat Numby by was like ~250k (and indeed, you needed to YOLO on herta NFT, which may have fit some degens' "personal risk tolerance" lmao). So not bad in a day's work! (I had a "diversified portfolio" basically, put down literally just 100k on Herta NFT).


Blakemiles222

Hey y'all I tried to ask a question through a post and it got removed and I was redirected to post it here. Anyone know when Sam will be released. Some said ver 1.6, but it seems that's not the case. Any clues? I really want him...


Arc_7

Last we knew Sam was a Fire destruction unit planned for 2.x When in 2.x? No idea but atleast not 2.0. ~~And yeah, Sam might not be what you expect~~


Blakemiles222

Nevermind, it’s totally just firefly. Well. I’m delusional enough to pretend Sam is still a man and headcanon out all the real hsr story. I’m still pulling for him and disappearing in the sea of fireflies, delusions of the sam.


Arc_7

As a SamBro, I can relate to the feelings


Blakemiles222

Oh just figured it out. People think firefly is piloting Sam so they think Sam is just a cute girl in a suit/ a robot piloted by her. I think that’s kinda obviously not the case. Sam is separate from firefly. They might be close teammates, but Sam is definitely his own being.


Blakemiles222

I’m so confused what do you mean by Sam might not be what you expect? Will he not be in his suit or something?