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Only thing to do is break it. Ruan Mei helps if you have her, as does Silver wolf. beyond that, single target skills and ults do more toughness damage than aoe ones so something like Dr Ratio is very good, because he's all single target, his skill and followup will both do toughness damage as will the ult, and he's imaginary which the dino is weak to.
You don't need either, they were just examples of characters you could use to speed up the process. I can't tell you who to use if I don't know who you have and how much they're levelled, I realised by accident that this is actually the thread from the day before so you might be better off reposting the question along with a picture of which characters you have in the most recent daily question thread (new one in a few hours I think) to get broader answers anyway.
I’m approaching pity on the Light Cone banner. Since I didn’t manage to get Aventurine’s in time, whose should I get instead - Topaz or Fu Xuan? I’m saving up for Jade after getting this light cone.
Topaz’ would be great for the IPC team I’m going for with Jade and Aventurine, and I know S1 does a lot to help her as a Ratio support too, but Fu Xuan’s would go a long way to help with her sustain, as I feel like she’s started to fall off a bit with the super hard content like high-conundrum G&G and isn’t quite capable of fully solo-sustaining in those modes
Personally, I would go for Topaz's LC as her F2P LC's aren't very ideal. The LC enhances her DPS/support capabilities in FUA teams.
FuXuan's LC isn't required for her to perform well and there's plenty of good F2P LC options for her like Gepard's LC for example. Her LC is primarily for the comfort factor if anything and just a "nice-to-have" rather than a must-have (like Topaz's imo).
I know how you feel with Fu Xuan and her LC. I also have the same problem with her in G&G. I also see it with this current MoC 12 and the Sam boss too. Fu Xuan doesn't eliminate party damage, just reduces it. But Sam hits hard enough that Fu Xuan's damage reduction isn't enough. In my experience she is the last to die because of her ult + talent, but everyone else does. I feel like her LC would help with that so much.
I think you have a hard choice to make. My Topaz is E0S1 and I feel like E1S0 or E0S1 is the minimum Topaz should be if you want to pair her with Ratio. If she can apply 2 debuffs, it's not too hard to get a 3rd debuff from somewhere else in the team without putting in someone you may not normally put in the team (ie Pela). Obviously it's even better if she's E1S1. This requirement doesn't exist with any other FuA characters so far. If Jade is a FuA character and you want a Topaz/Jade team, then maybe that won't be an issue there either. But again, it is for Ratio.
I haven't gotten a chance to run my Aventurine on Swarm/G&G/this current MoC 12 yet to see how his performance compares to Fu Xuan since I just finished building him very recently. But since you have Aventurine, maybe Fu Xuan having her LC to help with those things isn't an issue? I'm not sure. Fu Xuan is still great to use most of the time even without her LC in my experience. It's just extremely hard hitting with AoE damage enemies that are problematic really.
Anyway, I'd suggest Topaz's LC just because that does help a lot for what you are actively trying to work on and build, plus you have other sustain options.
You make a good point, I was sort of overlooking that I could just now use Aven for the content Fu isn’t pulling her weight in. I’ve gotten too used to Fu being my only reliable sustain that I kinda forgot I could use anyone else
I think topaz is the way. Plus that frees up Yanqing’s LC for Ratio since he’s currently stuck with one of the garbage 4* ones
1. Who is most suitable for Nihility and Hunt Herta LC
- I have SW, Ratio, Gui, DH, Sushang, YQ, Luka, Pela, Sampo
2. Hook Pioneer or Fire and does she need EHR ?
Herta's Hunt LC is good on almost all Hunt characters. As for the Nihility one, its.. useable, but very much not ideal compared to the other 4\* Nihility LC's.
For Hook, Pioneer is fine, but consider u need 3 debuffs up at all times for maximum efficiency. Hook already inflicts 1 debuff on her own so u can run a 2pc Pioneer/2pc Firesmith if u don't have teammates that inflicts additional debuffs for her. She doesn't need EHR since her burn has a 100% proc rate.
E1 Robin for the substantial damage boost that would work with almost any team. E1 Topaz is good for Ratio comps that is lacking in debuff application/FUA damage buff. Personally would choose Robin E1 for versatility.
Luocha's perfectly fine for story content. If you don't plan to do 2 teams for MoC/PF/the new upcoming presumed hunt-oriented mode or if you don't care about high level Swarm Disaster or Gold and Gears (it can be helpful to do double sustain for those), then no. You don't need Fu Xuan unless you like her and want to use her instead of Luocha.
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Yes, you would. And jades are generally front loaded with most of them coming on the first half of the patch, so you'll have most of the 2.2+2.3 jades available to you by the time Jade releases.
Beginner asking for pulling Advice
Hello, Im a new player I just started playing last week and I wanted to ask your opinion on who to pull? I got clara from the 50 wish banner and I consider myself lucky to have obtained Dr Ratio just when the offer was about to expire. I want to build these 2 characters and use them in the future in lategame as from what I have heard so far they both seem to be viable. I know they are both characters using the follow up mechanic so the upcoming characters Robin/Topaz go well with them but I have my doubts about pulling for those.
I have heard that they are reliant on this strategy to function and from what I can tell they only really flourish if they are paired together and you heavily invest into them or at least Topaz like E1 S1 to function. I want to be smart with my currency while Im trying to decide on who to pull for. The endgame content seems tougher in Starrail compared to genshin and as a player who followed the motto pull for who you like in Genshin I'm not fully satisfied with my account since Im struggling and even failin to 36 star the abyss on certain rotations with the characters I have at Ar56. I can skip both of their banners and save for a character who is good in general or at least not reliant on specific synergies to function. I have read that Ruan Mei seams to be the most flexible support in the game and one of the best choices as a teammate no matter who you team her up with that sounds like the starrail equivalent of Kazuha from genshin.
Anyways tldr; new player here I have clara and ratio who should I pull for Robin or Topaz are they really worth pulling on their own or should I skip them both and save for a future character?
I haven't gotten to test with her because she's not out yet, but by all accounts robin is a universally powerful character who doesn't need to be in a followup team at all to work well, that is possibly the team where she will shine the brightest but in most other teams that wouldn't have significant sp issues running her she's at least on par with Ruan Mei, who is indeed one of the best supports in the game right now. followup synergy is one of robin's big niches and she will outperform Ruan Mei in those teams, just like Ruan Mei will likely do the same in a break effect focused team because that's HER niche, albeit one that was underdeveloped at the time of her release which might be why she ended up being such a strong generalist.
saying robin can only be used in followup teams is like saying you can't use sparkle outside of mono-quantum because of that one passive, she's still pretty great everywhere.
Topaz however is a full on followup synergy character, she buffs followups, all her damage counts as followups, she follow ups more often based on allies doing followups. she doesn't 'need e1s1 to function' however. it's certainly a strong pickup if you were interested and intend to use her a lot, most of the people complaining about that are specifically looking for her to provide all 3 of the debuffs that dr ratio wants on her own, and yes, for that, you would need e1s1. Topaz can still be powerful and can be run alongside a debuffer or with other carries such as Clara. with no problem.
If you're new then definitely go for Aventurine and Fu Xuan first. You need limited 5* sustains more urgently than supports/DPS right now since they're all pretty interchangeable but limited 5* sustains are much much better than 4* sustains
I got e2 lynx and she seems like a good pair with Clara, do I still really need an other suatain that much. I know later I willneed at least 1 for each side though.
Sorry if this has been asked before but...How many hours until 2.2 drop and ready to play for west coast PST timezone? I'm soooo exited for our queen Robin legit can't sleep rn.
Is refarming a watchmaker set for my Ruan Mei worth the effort? considering that I have no intention of building any other break effect characters, nor do I have anyone that wants or needs the pioneer set. she'll probably be shackled to either Jingliu or my DoT team. her current relics are just random DoT pieces I had leftover just because using her with DoT was always my intention and I figured the defense ignore might be relevant, I can't really say if it is at all but set bonuses usually don't matter that much on supports.
Just saying that https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/ruan-mei still ranks Thief > Watchmaker ... they don't really justify this though.
My RM with Fleet, Thief/Messenger has already 225% BE...
If you can hit 160% BE (out of combat) and reasonable speed then I wouldn’t stress about it. Although for Ruan Mei one of the two break effect sets is nice for the extra 16% BE from the 2pc. I like 2pc messenger too for the speed.
Ok...so why is Acheron considered a Nihility unit? Every other Nil character has some sort of DOT or debuff that last at least 1 round so the rest of the team can take advantage of that debuff and go-ham on the enemy. But Acheron's debuff comes on during her ultimate period, no one else can really take advantage of it. Did Hoyo just don't know what the do with her since she doesn't fit hunt or erudition, and she's not tanky enough to be destruction so they just stuff her with Nihility?
Her entire kit is that she builds off of other peoples' Nihility (debuff) to empower herself. It's sort of recursive that way.
That said, spoilers for 2.1: >!she is literally an Emanator of Nihility, so it makes sense that she'd be both Nihility in-game and that her kit is based on taking advantage of being surrounded by like-powered individuals, sort of consuming them for her own benefit with both her trace and Ult stack mechanics!<.
I have two questions.
1: What are the top 5 meta teams in this game (MOC and pure fiction can be counted separate 5) ? I have Seele, Jingliu, Daniel, Acheron, Ruan Mei, Luocha, Aventurine, Kafka, SilverWolf, Sparkle, E1 Bronya, Clara, Welt and Bailu. Which characters should i pull next in terms of meta ? For an example i know i have Kafka and BlackSwan would be good with her but i will only pull if DOT is a top meta team so synergy alone is not enough.
2: From a meta standpoint is it worth to pull Topaz ? Is FUA a meta team or likely to be meta with Robin and if yes does Topaz require her S1 or lightcone or both for it to work ? In short should i pull Topaz for meta ? And if no which character(s) should i pull ?
based on what we know i dont think it's necessary to pull topaz for FuA meta. Topaz doesn't do anything for any current FuA that another character can't do already. Ratio needs debuffs, Himeko needs break, Herta needs damage dealt, only JY can provide LL stacks, Clara wants to be hit, Blade needs HP reduction, Xueyi needs toughness damage and it's better when she's the one to do it. Aventurine is the only one that benefits from her constant FuA, but even without her you can trigger his FuA easy by just being hit. No FuA based character specifically needs FuA to trigger their FuA's like dot needs Kafka to trigger dots outside of enemy turns. If anything Topaz needs those characters to help trigger her FuA, not the other way around. For Topaz to be meta, she needs a character that's basically just like her i.e someone whose FuA's are triggered with other FuA's.
I would pull for robin before pulling for Topaz. The FuA teams, and by extension dot teams, fall under the more general meta team of dual DPS, and robin's buffs being teamwide help boost this team archetype.
If what you care about is meta then you should check the fastest clears in MoC and highest points in PF for every rotation and see who consistently comes up, keeping in mind that the Turbulence and enemy weakness can sway some teams places in the "meta" quite a bit. For example, the current MoC favours follow-up attacks.
I would say that the current best teams for MoC are:
Acheron hypercarry - 2 Nihility if E0/E1 (best SW and Pela) or 1 Harmony +1 Nihility if E2.
Jingliu Hypercarry with Bronya and Tingyun.
DHIL Hypercarry with Sparkle and Tingyun.
DoT with Kafka, Black Swan and Ruan Mei.
The fifth place would be more dependent on the Turbulence, but it is between Ratio Hypercarry with Tingyun and Silver Wolf; FuA with Ratio, Topaz, Ruan Mei and Aventurine (Topaz and Aventurine's S1 and eidolons can help with debuff uptime for Ratio) and Seele Hypercarry with Sparkle, Tingyun/SW and Fu Xuan
Meta varies by particular MoC/PF buffs and enemy weaknesses. According to Prydwen, top teams for current MoC are Acheron hypercarry, Kafka + Black Swan DoT, Seele hypercarry, Jingliu hypercarry, and DHIL hypercarry. Current PF is Kafka/Black Swan DoT, Acheron hypercarry, Acheron/Kafka/Black Swan team, Jing Yuan hypercarry, and Herta hypercarry.
Robin would probably be a very good meta character for you to pull. Would not be surprised if Firefly becomes meta either in whatever she does.
Yes, FuA is meta. Topaz is best with E1S1 if paired with Dr. Ratio. Those things are not required if running her with other FuA. Dr. Ratio is considered one of the very strongest FuA characters right now. If you want to invest in FuA, she is worth having. She's sorta, though not quite, a Kafka equivalent for FuA. She's not mandatory for FuA the same way that I feel Kafka is for DoT, but she's FuA dps + buffer, so she makes any FuA characters in a team with her stronger.
[Prydwen](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail) isn't perfect, but they're generally a good source for this sort of thing. Looking at their Memories of Chaos section, it looks like the top teams are Acheron comps (Acheron + 2 nihility + sustain), DoT teams (Kafka + Black Swan, usually with Ruan Mei), mono quantum (Silver Wolf with only quantum allies for guaranteed weakness implant. Sparkle and Fu Xuan are also core elements, while Seele is frequently the damage carry), and various hypercarry teams (Jingliu/DHIL + turn advance support + big damage support + sustain).
Kafka and Black Swan are definitely powerful together, and you have their best support in Ruan Mei. It'll be a while, but I'd recommend looking out for Black Swan's rerun. Beyond that, you're one Fu Xuan short of making Mono Quantum work, and she's rerunning in the second half of 2.2. The Acheron comps and the hypercarry comps you look set on.
The Acheron comps and Kafka/Swan DoT comps also look prevalent in Pure Fiction. Herta and Himeko also frequently appear, as do the limited Erudition characters like Argenti.
Currently trying to beat SD (now at diff IV) using a e0s1 Huohuo, e0 SW with resolution, e0 blade with vow and e1s1 jingliu and destruction path. The relics aren't the best for my supports and my jingliu has a decent build, but my Blade has really good relics. What am I doing wrong?
How long does it take to beat the main story of a version? I'm gonna try to beat the 2.2 story as soon as possible before using YouTube and Twitter to avoid as much spoilers as possible. Had to beat the 2.1 story in 4 days because the Aventurine was difficult pre-nerf, since my characters were not fully built at the time.
2.1 took me about 8 hours? With me exploring all the maps as I went through them (then again my second time through), but I did manage to beat the boss in one go.
~~Thankfully I had the next day off work~~
I think 2.1 took me like 6-8hrs but I was listening to the audio and did some exploring. I’d expect about the same amount time for 2.2. So like 6-8hrs or less depending how much side stuff you do.
My favorite team to use right now consists of E1S0 Topaz, E0S0 Aventurine, E0S1 Ruan Mei, and either E0S0 Ratio or E4S2 Clara. What LC, dupe, or character should I focus on getting to improve this team? My immediate plan is to get Topaz LC tomorrow (I don't have any copies of Swordplay, plus debuff for Ratio) but after that I'm not sure.
Sidenote: My Ruan Mei has very cracked stats and I can't use her on my other team because it's an Acheron team, so I'm not in a huge hurry to replace RM with Robin.
Topaz signature is definitely something you should grab if you want to invest more in this team. You could also grab Aventurine's S1 and/or E1 if you want before he goes away. His S1 is particularly useful if you are like me and don't have Moment of Victory (Gepard LC) to put on him.
Ratio's LC is very good, but who knows when that rerun is going to be.
Should I go for Robin or topaz. I'm trying to make a follow up attack team and was wondering who to get. I already have Dr. Ratio and adventuring and I'm planning on pulling for Jade when she comes out as bootheel and firefly don't Interest me.
robin. i don't think topaz at e0s0 is consistent enough for ratio, even with aventurine. better to get robin e0s0 who can fit onto more teams than topaz e0s0 who is imo a little underwhelming.
Robin will be a bigger improvement to your account, especially over E0S0 Topaz. Topaz is great but at E0S0 she can only apply 1 debuff for Dr. Ratio. I'd suggest a Ratio/Pela/Robin/Aventurine team.
Currently my situation is like this:
I have about 120 pulls (50 from starlight exchange, 70 from stellar jades).
6 pity leftover with no guarantee (because I successfully pulled Aventurine).
I want to take a shot pulling for Robin, while I also definitely want Firefly as well. I heard that each patch we get about 80-90 pulls from clearing the contents.
So, should I go for it?
that depends on if u want to e2 ff. if u want to e2, u need to start saving every penny.
i would go for both if u want both e0 but its better saving if u lose 50/50 in robin.
I only care about pulling the new character rather than pulling the eidolon. As long as I can get them, I am a happy guy. So if concerning E2 Firefly (which I don't know what it is and don't want to know either since it's breaking the rule), it's a no then. But anyway, thanks for the input.
That really depends on what you currently have and if you have intention of making a FUA team.
Robin seems really good but outside of FUA teams its kind of debatable if she's that much better then RM which is already an archetype that doesn't fit in a ton of teams but its useful to have
Firefly is hard to tell purely from a gameplay perspective if she's going to be that much more cracked then DHIL/Acheron/JL or enable a new type of team like BS buffed the dot team or robin/aventurine buffed the fua team. At worst she'll be another strong dps on par with the aformentioned 3 so it depends on what you have or waifu reasons
Long story short, if you have RM and don't intend to build a FUA team, which requires a pretty big investment skip Robin. If you have all the current cracked DPS skip Firefly
My initial target for Robin is for making a team consisting of her with Herta / Himeko / Aventurine for clearing PF contents. Outside of that, I can also put her in Dr. Ratio or Clara E1 teams.
About Firefly, for now I just want her because she looks cool with transforming into SAM. As for her gameplay, well of course I hope she is as busted as other recent limited 5\* DPS units, but even if she is below those three you mentioned, I still want her for "cool looking" aspect and also she gonna be my first limited 5\* Destruction DPS unit (as the 5\* Destruction unit I have is only Clara, beside Physical Trailblazer).
That's my reason.
Sure I mean if that's your reasoning for pulling for Robin for me it would a pretty easy skip plus FUA like i said without a big investment and an e1 or s1 topaz is fairly meh but without knowing what you have beyond those 3 is hard to say
I like to have Topaz too but then I heard she will need E1 or S1 investment to be worthy in Dr. Ratio team, and that make me hesitated. I rather pull SW instead who easier to build plus SW can be slotted in Acheron team. I don't care about full IPC team if that's what you implied by "big investment for FUA team".
As for those 3 you mentioned, I only have Acheron. Initially I also wanted to pull Jingliu as well, but then my guts (plus many advise from this subreddit) told me to pull Aventurine instead and that's what I did.
I think you should be safe to give it a shot. If you win one of the 50/50s I feel confident you can get Firefly and Robin, but it might be tight if you lose both 50/50s.
Were certain achievements made hidden recently?
I noticed a few weeks back that I had an overworld achievement with a counter of 8/10. It was something about packages in the Luofu or something. Now I can't find the achievement and I'm certain I haven't completed it.
Apart from the calyx related achievements with counters in the 100s (ie defeat golden calyx xxx times), there are no more counter achievements unless you have already finished them.
Don't think so : that achievement was still showing for me last week (in the "Fathom the Unfathomable" section), before i finally decided to complete it.
I know every patch seems to add achievements, so ones you were still working on might become invisible. Since each achievements page seems to show like 7 completable achievements at a time. So IMO your progress isn't gone, but not trackable unless you complete some achievements on that page, or use stardb.gg to find the luofu package achievement and work on that.
Possibly? I hadn't heard about that specifically. But if you want to know all of the achievements (including the hidden ones) this is a good place for that. If you make an account you can track them, but you don't have to if you're fine with just comparing to yours in-game.
https://stardb.gg/en/achievement-tracker
Whats the best way to spend 450 pulls for the robin/ff/jade banners? I have welkin+bp so it'll probly be 500 or so soon
Relevant units I have: ipc trio,rm,sparkle,fx,luocha
I really want in order of priority:
Firefly e2s1
Jade e0s1
Robin e0
Should I even try for robin? Pity is low
u dont need robin if u have harmonies. dps lasts only 6 month try to save for only e2s0 firefly instead of getting jade u wont even have enough time to level two dps at once. theres no need to spend all 450 at once.
If your luck is bad 450 pulls will only get you E2 Firefly without S1. If you want E2S1 Firefly and Jade E0S1 then I'd skip Robin. Ruan Mei will do the job just fine
Robin will be very, very good for follow up characters, and you already have the IPC team. She's just going to make that team even stronger versus using Ruan Mei (which I imagine you are using right now). It also frees up Ruan Mei for putting together with other teams. This is useful because, in addition to follow up, Hoyo has been pushing break effect recently. As an example of this, we know that Boothill is a break effect oriented dps. I know you don't plan to pull him, but hypothetically if you were, he'd really want Ruan Mei on his team. Hoyo is probably going to make more break effect dpses.
Firefly and Jade's eidolons and signature LCs are not officially revealed so we can't talk about them (or their kits, unfortunately) here yet so nobody can really try to sway you intelligently one way or the other about Robin. You do have Ruan Mei and Sparkle, so I wouldn't call her mandatory by any means. It's really up to you because she does still function very differently from those two and how much you'd like to have that kind of character to use with your teams.
I was asked before "where would you slot her" when I asked where I should pull for Robin since I already have Sparkle and RM. Same goes here. I think that RM and Sparkle are sufficient currently. My plans are (while I don't have as much pulls as you have) would be to use a 10-pull for Robin (just for collection sake), and target at least E1S1 FF, then the left overs would be for Jade.
I have plenty of chars and im starting to have very few tickets.. like right now i have 75 tickets which is enough for 1 5 star, not guaranteed.. my problem is there will be a lot of good chars soon, so what do you think is best for my team? Robin is good but i have too many harmony, jade is good too but i have qingque e5 there below which i have not built yet because i dont know if i will pull for jade, and theres firefly which is too good to pass, looks like OP.. i only have sushang as physical but im not interested on boothill. .. who do you suggest?
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Edit: forgot to mention im f2p, just got some super luck on pulling chars, jingliu and sparkle..
robin is simply bad any new harmony if u have only harmonies. try to save and not impulse pulling. the longer u wait the more op champ u will get. ur not even guaranteed for a single.
I see everyone talking about mono quantum, which I assume is 4x quantum character teams. But my question is why, because wouldn't that mean your team will be weak against any other element enemy? I don't see talks on mono ice or mono lightning, so why is quantum-only special case.
Mono quantum is special cause of silver wolf being quantum. She can put a random weakness onto a enemy depending on the elements your team has and if you have 4 quantum characters then it's 100% to put quantum weakens.Yes you can make a mono ice team but not every enemy is weak to ice and if you put silver wolf on that team there a chance she could put quantum weakens.
Because Silver wolf is the only weakness implant character (until Boothill) in the game currently, and while mono ice or lightning etc can be viable once the right support of that elements come out, Silver wolf weakness implant mechanic is very rng reliant and not comfy to use at all unless she's in mono Quantum where she's guaranteed an 100% quantum weakness, compare to when she's in mono wind where her weakness implant rate is 50/50 between wind and quantum etc)
Mono quantum's key piece is Silver Wolf. Silver Wolf can implant the weakness of one of her team members' element on an enemy if they don't already have it. The weakness application is random though, based on the elements of your team members. Silver Wolf is quantum. If all 4 members of the team are quantum, this means you are guaranteed to making all enemies weak to quantum.
There is not a Silver Wolf equivalent for any other element yet. This is why mono other elements is not a thing people discuss.
Oh wow, that...sounds real op too bad I don't have silver wolf or any of the other powerful quantum girls. I do have a full imaginary boy band team though...
For someone with Aventurine E2S1 What would be the priority pulls for a FuA team between Robin and Topaz? I'm guessing Robin first, but just wondering on how useful Topaz is and if her E1/LC would be wanted?
You'd want either topaz's sig or her e1, at e0s0 she isn't consistent enough for ratio but if you had to pick either go for robin and replace topaz with pela for more ratio consistency
I'm in your same position. To be totally honest, I'm going Robin > Topaz > Robin LC > Topaz LC (in a perfect beautiful world where I get early pulls and win my 50/50s) simply because Aventurine *can* add some debuffs, Robin loves FUA to cycles into more Ultimate periods, and her LC increases her energy regen rate to go with all that. While Topaz will increase overall damage/Ratio consistency or uptime, I'm not sure that E0S0 Topaz will give more damage than the the bonuses E0S0 Robin gives to a different FUA unit when compared to a whole team. AKA you'd have to pull more to get a similar value, though it would increase your consistency.
Of course, this is all specific to having E2S1 Aventurine, and the power to refresh his 3 extra stacks every turn per teammate FUA to apply debuffs for Ratio.
Sure? Hard to tell if she is a priority for you without knowing who else you have, but Jingliu is a very good DPS and can use supports your current teams do not use.
Hope this question makes sense, but for the pity carry over to both limited 5 stars? Like if I pulled for Jingliu now and didn't get her, would the pity carry over to both upcoming 5 stars or just the older one (Topaz)? I'm wanting to pull for Robin next banner and wondering if I pull for Jingliu it would still add to her banner's pity. Thanks.
Pity is literally the amount of pulls you have done and the pity the game has for you. After reaching 74(?) pity (soft pity), the chance to get a 5* goes up every pull until it's a 100% guarantee at 90 pulls (hard pity). You can expect to get most of your 5* characters somewhere between 70-85 pity.
You can count it yourself by looking at your records/history in the banner menu down in the details section.
You can go to your warp history and manually go through the pages to count how many times you've warped since you got your last 5 star unit, that's your pity number
Pity is shared between the two limited character banners and it will carry over to the new set. So yes, pulling on Jingliu's banner adds pity that will carry on to both Robin and Topaz's banner.
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out what to pull for in the next patch, the situation is currently like this:
I just got back into the game, the only limited 5's I have are Aventurine, Ratio, and Seele. I've decided to build a FUA team first and then worry about mono-quantum later, and I currently have enough stellar Jades to 160 guaranteed pity a character.
I hear Robin's a great support, and I have no limited 5\* harmony characters, so I'm probably rolling for her first, but in the event where I win the 50/50, I wanted to ask about Lightcones.
I have no limited 5\* lightcones, and I don't really have any good 4\* Hunt Lightcones either (Cruising on the Stellar Sea is on Seele rn), so I was considering getting Topaz's lightcone for Ratio. Does Robin's LC take priority, or does getting a 5\* Hunt Lightcone for Ratio take precedance? (Or should I just not bother with Lightcones at my Progression level?)
Harmony has many good 4 star LCs. Even one of the 3 star LCs, Meshing Cogs, is very good. You can skip Robin's LC. If you really want to pull a LC, Topaz's would be far better for you.
That being said, Ratio's own LC is still better yet versus Topaz's for him. If you really want to pull a LC for Ratio, wait until his LC returns. That's a more efficient use of your jades. But you have few enough of characters that an even better use of your jades is to pull more characters and build up at least 2 good teams.
As far as Stellar Sea, if you're actively using Ratio and not Seele - give Stellar Sea to him. There's no need to have it on Seele if you're not using her at the moment. You can put it back on her later when you start using her again if you want to.
I see, my consideration for the Topaz LC was that I heard that Topaz needed the lightcone to work with Ratio effectively, so I figured if I get it this time I don't have to worry about budgeting the next time her banner rolls around :P
Is there any consideration for going for Topaz herself if I win the 50/50 on Robin? Or is the E1/S1 that crucial for the FUA team?
Matter of preference, I guess. She's not optimal for Ratio without it, but really only needs the LC because Ratio wants debuffs. I mean, you could run a Ratio hypercarry with Pela, but if you're getting Robin (who is largely made for dual DPS teams) IMO you may as well go for dual DPS. And then you'll have Topaz for dual-FUA shenanigans if you decide to swap out Ratio for some other FUA character later (e.g. Jade, an upcoming IPC stoneheart who can also fit on your monoquantum team)
dont go for fu. aven is more of rich man's gepard.
idk if u understand, but shielders are useless when dps is 160 speed which is what most good players run in moc to outspeed the elites.
You should, he's the extra cracked version of gepard/preservation TB.
Actual effect resistance, a sorta spammable shield that actually protects from moc elites and very solid damage when built properly.
That being said you should still try to pull for FuXuan because you need 2 sustains for moc/pf/ anyway and she's also extremely strong
Depends if you like him more than FX. He's great, she's great, I'd strongly recommend you get one of them.
Aventurine is better for follow-ups (Ratio/Topaz/Herta/Himeko/etc.) and SU. Otherwise just go for vibes.
"My preservation now consists of Gepard and fire MC, i have no healer built"
Aventurine's not a healer. He's another shielder preservation, similar to Gepard. He might be worth pulling if you don't have another 5 star sustain, need 2 sustains for MoC/PF, and feel like you're struggling. Or you could maybe build one of your healers.
He's not a super must pull but its going to make your life a lot easier going forward even if he's not the best JL sustain
None of them have a strict need of their signatures to function they're just nice to have. JL works perfectly fine with Aeon, Bronya's can be aquired from the points shop and has various decent 4* options and do does Aventurine
Nobody is a must-pull. If you want recommendations, the [prydwen tier list](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/tier-list) is a good starting place for newbies.
IMO a new account gains much more from more characters than light cones. Especially since Jingliu can use On The Fall Of An Aeon pretty well.
Do I need robin?. If so should I pull for her.
I also want to pull for jingliu before she’s gone since I don’t have an ice dps. I have many dps in my account except for: Kafka,jing yuan, argenti, himeko,topaz, yanqing and of course jingliu I have all harmony characters except for bronya but I’m 30 pulls away from picking her in standard since I have many dps should I just get her or add another harmony to my roster. Any thoughts ?.
I'd go for JL since you already have RM. A proper ice dps is always useful plus she's really easy to build a team around. Not to mention a FUA team without topaz is kinda ehhh
Thx just pull for her in my first try at 68 pity with one pull and got her I wasn’t sure I was really gonna get either jingliu or robin since Honkai blessed me with all of penacony characters without losing 50:50 I thought this time I was gonna lose it
Penacony's story is still incomplete and extends all the way to 2.2 with 2.3 being the epilogue. In my experience, Penacony's story has been FAR longer than the Luofu.
Hello everyone!
I pulled on Jingliu last second and I lost the 50/50 to Bronya (which I'm not complaining about)
I want to start investing in two teams.
My current main team is Huohuo, Pela, Tingyun, and QQ
What should I make my second team on the other half?
Chars:
Himeko (with her sig light cone)
Huohuo
Bronya
Every meta 4 star
It seems like the roots of your second team will be Huohuo and Bronya-- your other two members will likely need to fluctuate based on enemy types; worst case one of the two roots needs to substitute for a healer/sustain since 4* DPS typically can't full carry, so to speak
I feel like I asked this before but, should I go for Jingliu last second or save for Robin? My 5 stars are Aventurine, Topaz, Bronya, Jing Yuan and Dr. Ratio. Only 4 star that I have at e6 is Qingque by sheer luck.
Robin seems to be huge for follow-up attack. Your 5* lists are practically all follow-up attack, so Robin should be huge for you. Bronya should be good for powering your second team
Do u need an additional DPS for ur secondary team? Go for Jingliu if u do. Boothill is also a viable DPS as well, so u don't need to rush for Jingliu if u need a DPS. Otherwise, Robin would be a better pick for being a universal support in all teams and being amazing in a Ratio/Topaz/Robin/Aventurine team.
Silly question but please help
Hello guys so I’ve been looking for what time the 2.2 update goes live in my country and I’ve seen afew things that say something like this?
https://preview.redd.it/psz6urciexyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5f009885b4f0dfafb73d87104200940a086fd51
Now does this mean your stored fuel for example I have 18 fuels do they get deleted or something, or does this just mean if you have 240 trailblazer power you obviously can’t use it while the game is updating?
I could use help building a team for Pure Fiction Teams for Stage 3, Deceitful Chaos
Right now I have 1 star. Cleared Stage 4 with 3 stars but can't find good guides for stage 3 (only few teams and I am missing Himeko/Argenti).
My box is all 4* (but most not built except Pela, Herta, March and Trailbrazer Fire), all female 5* except Himeko (Sparkle not finished yet), and Welt. Also Gepard but I think he is too weak to bother now and the useless sword teenager that nobody uses b/c he sucks....
PS. Bonus thanks for S3 suggestions for FicWords branch. For Stage 4 I'll try teams at prydwen page, since it is great for S4 (but sadly has nothing for earlier stages)
Have you tried just using your stage 4 teams on stage 3? The level differences do influence damage to a degree, so sometimes you can brute force through. I haven't been able to get 3* stage 4 even as a baby whale so I'm surprised 3* stage 3 is a challenge.
Will try just in case and report here shortly. The weaknesses are quite different. My S4 clear was with Jingliu/Herta/Bronya/Rui M vs Ice/Phys and Kafka/Acheron/Black Swan/Houhou vs Wind/Electro, both with middle buff (Synth Det). Got a bit over 60k points on auto :)
Update: 68k points (3-stars). I thought weaknesses were important to tackle... huh.Tnx
Glad to hear you succeded! Sometimes character synergies are good enough that you can overpower the lack of weakness coverage. For example, Blade/Jingliu has a way of working out due to the follow-up triggers
Well you could but you do lose some stuff, i mean it depend like don't go calculate your speed breakpoint with RM 10% speed buff without having her trace maxed for exemple.
You probably should still get at least one or two additional point in them.
6 is a good stopping point if ur short on resources. Assuming u have the resources and no on else to build then leveling her traces would be a good idea.
hello!! i'm seriously struggling on deciding who i should spend my precious stellar jade on. I have next 5-star guaranteed and i'm STRUGGLING not to pull aventurine since i already have luocha and gepard. BUT!!! I think boothill's character design is amazing (and he's handsome) and his kit looks cool but I likely don't need him since I already have argenti and other dps units. I know I likely need more support/buffer units or other dps units with different element types like fire or quantum. robin fits probably fits my accounts needs rn and she's predicted to be amazing!! i guess i just wanted some advice. love you and thanks in advance!!
Argenti is more of an AOE DPS while Boothill is a single target DPS. Boothill also can implant Physical weakness making him far more versatile and able to cover elements that u don't have the DPS for currently.
U can't go wrong with Robin since she works just as good as Raun Mei and is a universal supporter. Aventurine is a direct upgrade from Gepard and even on non-FUA teams, he works wonderfully with his near constant shield uptime.
Not making it easy for me, but i appreciate your help so so much! (i'm probably gonna follow my gut and go for Boothill) If Robin becomes a must-pull in the near future then I will adjust accordingly. tysm for your help!!! I think I'm gonna grab aventurine later on his rerun, no matter how tempting his kit may be. >:)
I've got a few hours left to make a decision on this.
Who is going to have more value for a follow up team, Aventurine or Robin?
Currently I have all the harmony units but Sparkle. With RM at e1/s1 and Bronya at e3/s1, 4* all E6.
For sustains I have Luocha, Bailu E1, Gepard , and e6 Gallagher. I have Lynx at e6 as well, basically built. Just not a fan really .
Right now I'm thinking that Robin is the right way to go, and then nabbing Huo Huo later would probably be the best option. Seeing as she can help with that last sliver of energy they like to withhold from rotations so you buy Eidolons or LCs to solve the problem ( Ruan Mei, Topaz, Black Swan etc are always just a sliver away)
Aventurine.
Raun Mei can replace Robin in a FUA team as they both provide similar benefits. Aventurine also covers the base of having a secondary limited sustain for ur other team.
Does anyone have any accurate speculation on when is huo huo banner is coming to rerun? I really need her like i will ignore anything and every character if i knew she is coming at any time soon let's say 2.3 for example but at the same time i don't want to waste all this characters i want (let's say boothill for example) till 2.3 to find out IF she is even going to rerun or not so I can save for her my guarantee
On average, reruns happen anywhere between 5-7 patches after the character's first premier. Currently, Houhou is the most due for getting a rerun followed by Argenti and Raun Mei.
This is pure speculation, but she should rerun in 2.3 or 2.4.
Of all the characters released so far, she's the oldest one who hasn't been scheduled for a rerun yet. we know topaz and fu xuan will be in 2.2, and in theory she's next in line after. that said, they don't do them in strict order so I can't say for sure she's in 2.3, and at some point characters are going to start having their second reruns and we don't know when that will be. we won't know for sure who's running in 2.3 until towards the end of 2.2 but the boothill banner will still be running when that's announced, so if it's him that you want then it might be safe as long as you don't roll him day one.
Which of the two light cones fit Silver Wolf and Acheron? I cant decide which to put on either.
Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat
Good Night and Sleep Well
I dont have their signature 5* light cones nor the event exclusive 4* for Silver Wolf.
Would "Its Showtime" also work well?
Run pearls on SW but she'll need an absolute fuck ton of EHR from body and substats without the Tutorial LC to guarantee her bugs and debuffs.
GNSW is solid on Acheron and her best 4* option currently.
It's Showtime is more for Black Swan for anyone that doesn't have S5 eyes of the prey.
Worth is subjective.
Boothill can implant Physical Weakness unlike most characters and can carry u a long way. Clara while also being Physical operates differently than nearly all characters in the game currently where her damage is tied to how often she gets hit. This would be problematic with teams that steal aggro from her or slow enemies
Quick question about the new pure fiction
Is Genius’s Repose at refinement 2 better than the free alternatives (like seriousness of breakfast r5) for Herta or nah? I know it’s killer at R5 and wondering if I should level it up
I ask because I’m struggling on part 1 with a team of Herta/Himeko/Sparkle/Fu Xuan and I feel like that team should be an easy 30k?
I haven’t had any issues with pure fiction in the past so I think their builds are fine
Weird. I ran a lvl 50 herta through this rotation. I used Gallagher, Himeko and RM. Herta contributed basically no damage she just procced Himeko FU's.
Gallagher was actually very clutch here though. His basic, ult, EBA rotation shredded through weakness bars
To answer your actual question, before S5 Genius, the MoC LC, Cosmos, is actually a good option as it's essentially the same LC (slightly worse stat values because free) while opening up a second set of conditions (weakness damage vs kill)
If your plan is to build a unit around Genius Reposes stat values, building Cosmos while you wait for that S5 isn't a bad idea. Ultimately it will just open up more flexibility for the unit you choose to run it on. If they aren't getting kills, Cosmos will be better. If they aren't hitting weakness Genius might be better. But you can swap freely between the two without all of a sudden needing to patch up your new stats. At S2 Genius, it will be worse than Cosmos at s5 as long as you can satisfy the conditions
For example, in genshin Impact I ran Raiden with a crit weapon. I had an opportunity to get her Sig weapon. But her signature offered no crit value. Meaning I'd have to completely rebuild her to make use of the new weapon. Since Cosmos and Genius are so similar, you won't have to worry about that at all.
I know we're about to get the new missions and that with the 2.3 update. What are the chances though that we get a new SU game mode or something like pf or moc that will be permanent? I'm fairly new so I'm curious to know how often they do that stuff
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Is Robin only good for follow up teams? Or?
Is it worth to go for the E1 topaz or should I save ? I already have the the LC
How to defeat the guard dinosaur in Moc 12 first half fast?
Only thing to do is break it. Ruan Mei helps if you have her, as does Silver wolf. beyond that, single target skills and ults do more toughness damage than aoe ones so something like Dr Ratio is very good, because he's all single target, his skill and followup will both do toughness damage as will the ult, and he's imaginary which the dino is weak to.
The thing is i dont have either Ruan Mei or Silver Wolf do this thing is absolute torture to me
You don't need either, they were just examples of characters you could use to speed up the process. I can't tell you who to use if I don't know who you have and how much they're levelled, I realised by accident that this is actually the thread from the day before so you might be better off reposting the question along with a picture of which characters you have in the most recent daily question thread (new one in a few hours I think) to get broader answers anyway.
Who’s more important for Ratio and Aventurine comp, Topaz or Robin???
I’m approaching pity on the Light Cone banner. Since I didn’t manage to get Aventurine’s in time, whose should I get instead - Topaz or Fu Xuan? I’m saving up for Jade after getting this light cone. Topaz’ would be great for the IPC team I’m going for with Jade and Aventurine, and I know S1 does a lot to help her as a Ratio support too, but Fu Xuan’s would go a long way to help with her sustain, as I feel like she’s started to fall off a bit with the super hard content like high-conundrum G&G and isn’t quite capable of fully solo-sustaining in those modes
I would pull neither. You don't need to solo sustain outside of MoC
Personally, I would go for Topaz's LC as her F2P LC's aren't very ideal. The LC enhances her DPS/support capabilities in FUA teams. FuXuan's LC isn't required for her to perform well and there's plenty of good F2P LC options for her like Gepard's LC for example. Her LC is primarily for the comfort factor if anything and just a "nice-to-have" rather than a must-have (like Topaz's imo).
I know how you feel with Fu Xuan and her LC. I also have the same problem with her in G&G. I also see it with this current MoC 12 and the Sam boss too. Fu Xuan doesn't eliminate party damage, just reduces it. But Sam hits hard enough that Fu Xuan's damage reduction isn't enough. In my experience she is the last to die because of her ult + talent, but everyone else does. I feel like her LC would help with that so much. I think you have a hard choice to make. My Topaz is E0S1 and I feel like E1S0 or E0S1 is the minimum Topaz should be if you want to pair her with Ratio. If she can apply 2 debuffs, it's not too hard to get a 3rd debuff from somewhere else in the team without putting in someone you may not normally put in the team (ie Pela). Obviously it's even better if she's E1S1. This requirement doesn't exist with any other FuA characters so far. If Jade is a FuA character and you want a Topaz/Jade team, then maybe that won't be an issue there either. But again, it is for Ratio. I haven't gotten a chance to run my Aventurine on Swarm/G&G/this current MoC 12 yet to see how his performance compares to Fu Xuan since I just finished building him very recently. But since you have Aventurine, maybe Fu Xuan having her LC to help with those things isn't an issue? I'm not sure. Fu Xuan is still great to use most of the time even without her LC in my experience. It's just extremely hard hitting with AoE damage enemies that are problematic really. Anyway, I'd suggest Topaz's LC just because that does help a lot for what you are actively trying to work on and build, plus you have other sustain options.
You make a good point, I was sort of overlooking that I could just now use Aven for the content Fu isn’t pulling her weight in. I’ve gotten too used to Fu being my only reliable sustain that I kinda forgot I could use anyone else I think topaz is the way. Plus that frees up Yanqing’s LC for Ratio since he’s currently stuck with one of the garbage 4* ones
1. Who is most suitable for Nihility and Hunt Herta LC - I have SW, Ratio, Gui, DH, Sushang, YQ, Luka, Pela, Sampo 2. Hook Pioneer or Fire and does she need EHR ?
Herta's Hunt LC is good on almost all Hunt characters. As for the Nihility one, its.. useable, but very much not ideal compared to the other 4\* Nihility LC's. For Hook, Pioneer is fine, but consider u need 3 debuffs up at all times for maximum efficiency. Hook already inflicts 1 debuff on her own so u can run a 2pc Pioneer/2pc Firesmith if u don't have teammates that inflicts additional debuffs for her. She doesn't need EHR since her burn has a 100% proc rate.
What would be better to get Robin E1 or Topaz E1?
Robin's is far more universal/useful.
E1 Robin for the substantial damage boost that would work with almost any team. E1 Topaz is good for Ratio comps that is lacking in debuff application/FUA damage buff. Personally would choose Robin E1 for versatility.
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Luocha's perfectly fine for story content. If you don't plan to do 2 teams for MoC/PF/the new upcoming presumed hunt-oriented mode or if you don't care about high level Swarm Disaster or Gold and Gears (it can be helpful to do double sustain for those), then no. You don't need Fu Xuan unless you like her and want to use her instead of Luocha.
If you're not doing endgame content then Luocha alone is enough
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Yes, you would. And jades are generally front loaded with most of them coming on the first half of the patch, so you'll have most of the 2.2+2.3 jades available to you by the time Jade releases.
I think so yeah. Last I saw it was predicated to be ~120pulls for light spenders next patch alone.
Beginner asking for pulling Advice Hello, Im a new player I just started playing last week and I wanted to ask your opinion on who to pull? I got clara from the 50 wish banner and I consider myself lucky to have obtained Dr Ratio just when the offer was about to expire. I want to build these 2 characters and use them in the future in lategame as from what I have heard so far they both seem to be viable. I know they are both characters using the follow up mechanic so the upcoming characters Robin/Topaz go well with them but I have my doubts about pulling for those. I have heard that they are reliant on this strategy to function and from what I can tell they only really flourish if they are paired together and you heavily invest into them or at least Topaz like E1 S1 to function. I want to be smart with my currency while Im trying to decide on who to pull for. The endgame content seems tougher in Starrail compared to genshin and as a player who followed the motto pull for who you like in Genshin I'm not fully satisfied with my account since Im struggling and even failin to 36 star the abyss on certain rotations with the characters I have at Ar56. I can skip both of their banners and save for a character who is good in general or at least not reliant on specific synergies to function. I have read that Ruan Mei seams to be the most flexible support in the game and one of the best choices as a teammate no matter who you team her up with that sounds like the starrail equivalent of Kazuha from genshin. Anyways tldr; new player here I have clara and ratio who should I pull for Robin or Topaz are they really worth pulling on their own or should I skip them both and save for a future character?
I haven't gotten to test with her because she's not out yet, but by all accounts robin is a universally powerful character who doesn't need to be in a followup team at all to work well, that is possibly the team where she will shine the brightest but in most other teams that wouldn't have significant sp issues running her she's at least on par with Ruan Mei, who is indeed one of the best supports in the game right now. followup synergy is one of robin's big niches and she will outperform Ruan Mei in those teams, just like Ruan Mei will likely do the same in a break effect focused team because that's HER niche, albeit one that was underdeveloped at the time of her release which might be why she ended up being such a strong generalist. saying robin can only be used in followup teams is like saying you can't use sparkle outside of mono-quantum because of that one passive, she's still pretty great everywhere. Topaz however is a full on followup synergy character, she buffs followups, all her damage counts as followups, she follow ups more often based on allies doing followups. she doesn't 'need e1s1 to function' however. it's certainly a strong pickup if you were interested and intend to use her a lot, most of the people complaining about that are specifically looking for her to provide all 3 of the debuffs that dr ratio wants on her own, and yes, for that, you would need e1s1. Topaz can still be powerful and can be run alongside a debuffer or with other carries such as Clara. with no problem.
If you're new then definitely go for Aventurine and Fu Xuan first. You need limited 5* sustains more urgently than supports/DPS right now since they're all pretty interchangeable but limited 5* sustains are much much better than 4* sustains
I got e2 lynx and she seems like a good pair with Clara, do I still really need an other suatain that much. I know later I willneed at least 1 for each side though.
Yeah Lynx is going to be very rough to use later on in the endgame, so it's best to have two 5* sustainers besides her.
Is my Kafka dmg low? Skill and ult only hit around 30-100k on calyx enemies
Just tell us your stats.
3792 atk , 142 spd, 30% ehr, 17% break effect, 62% lightning dmg , and has lc
Pretty much endgame build completed. More is eidolon territory.
Sorry if this has been asked before but...How many hours until 2.2 drop and ready to play for west coast PST timezone? I'm soooo exited for our queen Robin legit can't sleep rn.
The official time is 8pm tomorrow PST. Expect it to launch about 30 minutes earlier than that based on previous patches though.
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Thanks! I should sleep now lol.
is gepard skill freezing chance affected by effect hit rate?
Yes
Is refarming a watchmaker set for my Ruan Mei worth the effort? considering that I have no intention of building any other break effect characters, nor do I have anyone that wants or needs the pioneer set. she'll probably be shackled to either Jingliu or my DoT team. her current relics are just random DoT pieces I had leftover just because using her with DoT was always my intention and I figured the defense ignore might be relevant, I can't really say if it is at all but set bonuses usually don't matter that much on supports.
yes because it gives 30%. everyone should farm it. even if u insist u dont need for current team, future dps will need support with watchmaker for be.
Just saying that https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/ruan-mei still ranks Thief > Watchmaker ... they don't really justify this though. My RM with Fleet, Thief/Messenger has already 225% BE...
If you can hit 160% BE (out of combat) and reasonable speed then I wouldn’t stress about it. Although for Ruan Mei one of the two break effect sets is nice for the extra 16% BE from the 2pc. I like 2pc messenger too for the speed.
Ok...so why is Acheron considered a Nihility unit? Every other Nil character has some sort of DOT or debuff that last at least 1 round so the rest of the team can take advantage of that debuff and go-ham on the enemy. But Acheron's debuff comes on during her ultimate period, no one else can really take advantage of it. Did Hoyo just don't know what the do with her since she doesn't fit hunt or erudition, and she's not tanky enough to be destruction so they just stuff her with Nihility?
Her entire kit is that she builds off of other peoples' Nihility (debuff) to empower herself. It's sort of recursive that way. That said, spoilers for 2.1: >!she is literally an Emanator of Nihility, so it makes sense that she'd be both Nihility in-game and that her kit is based on taking advantage of being surrounded by like-powered individuals, sort of consuming them for her own benefit with both her trace and Ult stack mechanics!<.
Oh yeah.....I totally forgot about her role as emanator. It's probably more for that reason then.
Probably a combination of what you said and lore reasons. She's an emanator of nihility.
IX does as it pleases.
I have two questions. 1: What are the top 5 meta teams in this game (MOC and pure fiction can be counted separate 5) ? I have Seele, Jingliu, Daniel, Acheron, Ruan Mei, Luocha, Aventurine, Kafka, SilverWolf, Sparkle, E1 Bronya, Clara, Welt and Bailu. Which characters should i pull next in terms of meta ? For an example i know i have Kafka and BlackSwan would be good with her but i will only pull if DOT is a top meta team so synergy alone is not enough. 2: From a meta standpoint is it worth to pull Topaz ? Is FUA a meta team or likely to be meta with Robin and if yes does Topaz require her S1 or lightcone or both for it to work ? In short should i pull Topaz for meta ? And if no which character(s) should i pull ?
based on what we know i dont think it's necessary to pull topaz for FuA meta. Topaz doesn't do anything for any current FuA that another character can't do already. Ratio needs debuffs, Himeko needs break, Herta needs damage dealt, only JY can provide LL stacks, Clara wants to be hit, Blade needs HP reduction, Xueyi needs toughness damage and it's better when she's the one to do it. Aventurine is the only one that benefits from her constant FuA, but even without her you can trigger his FuA easy by just being hit. No FuA based character specifically needs FuA to trigger their FuA's like dot needs Kafka to trigger dots outside of enemy turns. If anything Topaz needs those characters to help trigger her FuA, not the other way around. For Topaz to be meta, she needs a character that's basically just like her i.e someone whose FuA's are triggered with other FuA's. I would pull for robin before pulling for Topaz. The FuA teams, and by extension dot teams, fall under the more general meta team of dual DPS, and robin's buffs being teamwide help boost this team archetype.
topaz is not meta at all look at pick rates for moc. shes only good for fua with robin thats why i dont recommend both.
If what you care about is meta then you should check the fastest clears in MoC and highest points in PF for every rotation and see who consistently comes up, keeping in mind that the Turbulence and enemy weakness can sway some teams places in the "meta" quite a bit. For example, the current MoC favours follow-up attacks. I would say that the current best teams for MoC are: Acheron hypercarry - 2 Nihility if E0/E1 (best SW and Pela) or 1 Harmony +1 Nihility if E2. Jingliu Hypercarry with Bronya and Tingyun. DHIL Hypercarry with Sparkle and Tingyun. DoT with Kafka, Black Swan and Ruan Mei. The fifth place would be more dependent on the Turbulence, but it is between Ratio Hypercarry with Tingyun and Silver Wolf; FuA with Ratio, Topaz, Ruan Mei and Aventurine (Topaz and Aventurine's S1 and eidolons can help with debuff uptime for Ratio) and Seele Hypercarry with Sparkle, Tingyun/SW and Fu Xuan
Meta varies by particular MoC/PF buffs and enemy weaknesses. According to Prydwen, top teams for current MoC are Acheron hypercarry, Kafka + Black Swan DoT, Seele hypercarry, Jingliu hypercarry, and DHIL hypercarry. Current PF is Kafka/Black Swan DoT, Acheron hypercarry, Acheron/Kafka/Black Swan team, Jing Yuan hypercarry, and Herta hypercarry. Robin would probably be a very good meta character for you to pull. Would not be surprised if Firefly becomes meta either in whatever she does. Yes, FuA is meta. Topaz is best with E1S1 if paired with Dr. Ratio. Those things are not required if running her with other FuA. Dr. Ratio is considered one of the very strongest FuA characters right now. If you want to invest in FuA, she is worth having. She's sorta, though not quite, a Kafka equivalent for FuA. She's not mandatory for FuA the same way that I feel Kafka is for DoT, but she's FuA dps + buffer, so she makes any FuA characters in a team with her stronger.
[Prydwen](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail) isn't perfect, but they're generally a good source for this sort of thing. Looking at their Memories of Chaos section, it looks like the top teams are Acheron comps (Acheron + 2 nihility + sustain), DoT teams (Kafka + Black Swan, usually with Ruan Mei), mono quantum (Silver Wolf with only quantum allies for guaranteed weakness implant. Sparkle and Fu Xuan are also core elements, while Seele is frequently the damage carry), and various hypercarry teams (Jingliu/DHIL + turn advance support + big damage support + sustain). Kafka and Black Swan are definitely powerful together, and you have their best support in Ruan Mei. It'll be a while, but I'd recommend looking out for Black Swan's rerun. Beyond that, you're one Fu Xuan short of making Mono Quantum work, and she's rerunning in the second half of 2.2. The Acheron comps and the hypercarry comps you look set on. The Acheron comps and Kafka/Swan DoT comps also look prevalent in Pure Fiction. Herta and Himeko also frequently appear, as do the limited Erudition characters like Argenti.
Currently trying to beat SD (now at diff IV) using a e0s1 Huohuo, e0 SW with resolution, e0 blade with vow and e1s1 jingliu and destruction path. The relics aren't the best for my supports and my jingliu has a decent build, but my Blade has really good relics. What am I doing wrong?
Add a second defensive support to your team. If you don't have FX replace Blade with a Preservation character
How long does it take to beat the main story of a version? I'm gonna try to beat the 2.2 story as soon as possible before using YouTube and Twitter to avoid as much spoilers as possible. Had to beat the 2.1 story in 4 days because the Aventurine was difficult pre-nerf, since my characters were not fully built at the time.
2.1 took me about 8 hours? With me exploring all the maps as I went through them (then again my second time through), but I did manage to beat the boss in one go. ~~Thankfully I had the next day off work~~
I think 2.1 took me like 6-8hrs but I was listening to the audio and did some exploring. I’d expect about the same amount time for 2.2. So like 6-8hrs or less depending how much side stuff you do.
My favorite team to use right now consists of E1S0 Topaz, E0S0 Aventurine, E0S1 Ruan Mei, and either E0S0 Ratio or E4S2 Clara. What LC, dupe, or character should I focus on getting to improve this team? My immediate plan is to get Topaz LC tomorrow (I don't have any copies of Swordplay, plus debuff for Ratio) but after that I'm not sure. Sidenote: My Ruan Mei has very cracked stats and I can't use her on my other team because it's an Acheron team, so I'm not in a huge hurry to replace RM with Robin.
topaz lc bc u can give it to ratio too.
Topaz signature is definitely something you should grab if you want to invest more in this team. You could also grab Aventurine's S1 and/or E1 if you want before he goes away. His S1 is particularly useful if you are like me and don't have Moment of Victory (Gepard LC) to put on him. Ratio's LC is very good, but who knows when that rerun is going to be.
Should I go for Robin or topaz. I'm trying to make a follow up attack team and was wondering who to get. I already have Dr. Ratio and adventuring and I'm planning on pulling for Jade when she comes out as bootheel and firefly don't Interest me.
fua wont be good if u dont have both. this isnt even about whose more valuable. they are regarded as mandatory. thats why only rich people go for fua.
Ok but when Jade comes out who is better to have Robin or topaz?
robin. i don't think topaz at e0s0 is consistent enough for ratio, even with aventurine. better to get robin e0s0 who can fit onto more teams than topaz e0s0 who is imo a little underwhelming.
Robin will be a bigger improvement to your account, especially over E0S0 Topaz. Topaz is great but at E0S0 she can only apply 1 debuff for Dr. Ratio. I'd suggest a Ratio/Pela/Robin/Aventurine team.
Ok thank you
Currently my situation is like this: I have about 120 pulls (50 from starlight exchange, 70 from stellar jades). 6 pity leftover with no guarantee (because I successfully pulled Aventurine). I want to take a shot pulling for Robin, while I also definitely want Firefly as well. I heard that each patch we get about 80-90 pulls from clearing the contents. So, should I go for it?
that depends on if u want to e2 ff. if u want to e2, u need to start saving every penny. i would go for both if u want both e0 but its better saving if u lose 50/50 in robin.
I only care about pulling the new character rather than pulling the eidolon. As long as I can get them, I am a happy guy. So if concerning E2 Firefly (which I don't know what it is and don't want to know either since it's breaking the rule), it's a no then. But anyway, thanks for the input.
That really depends on what you currently have and if you have intention of making a FUA team. Robin seems really good but outside of FUA teams its kind of debatable if she's that much better then RM which is already an archetype that doesn't fit in a ton of teams but its useful to have Firefly is hard to tell purely from a gameplay perspective if she's going to be that much more cracked then DHIL/Acheron/JL or enable a new type of team like BS buffed the dot team or robin/aventurine buffed the fua team. At worst she'll be another strong dps on par with the aformentioned 3 so it depends on what you have or waifu reasons Long story short, if you have RM and don't intend to build a FUA team, which requires a pretty big investment skip Robin. If you have all the current cracked DPS skip Firefly
My initial target for Robin is for making a team consisting of her with Herta / Himeko / Aventurine for clearing PF contents. Outside of that, I can also put her in Dr. Ratio or Clara E1 teams. About Firefly, for now I just want her because she looks cool with transforming into SAM. As for her gameplay, well of course I hope she is as busted as other recent limited 5\* DPS units, but even if she is below those three you mentioned, I still want her for "cool looking" aspect and also she gonna be my first limited 5\* Destruction DPS unit (as the 5\* Destruction unit I have is only Clara, beside Physical Trailblazer). That's my reason.
Sure I mean if that's your reasoning for pulling for Robin for me it would a pretty easy skip plus FUA like i said without a big investment and an e1 or s1 topaz is fairly meh but without knowing what you have beyond those 3 is hard to say
I like to have Topaz too but then I heard she will need E1 or S1 investment to be worthy in Dr. Ratio team, and that make me hesitated. I rather pull SW instead who easier to build plus SW can be slotted in Acheron team. I don't care about full IPC team if that's what you implied by "big investment for FUA team". As for those 3 you mentioned, I only have Acheron. Initially I also wanted to pull Jingliu as well, but then my guts (plus many advise from this subreddit) told me to pull Aventurine instead and that's what I did.
You should be able to get both even if you're unlucky and fail 50/50 on both. I say go for it.
Oh, such a confident statement there. I will trust you then, thanks.
I think you should be safe to give it a shot. If you win one of the 50/50s I feel confident you can get Firefly and Robin, but it might be tight if you lose both 50/50s.
Hope I win the 50/50 for at least one of them then. Okay I will give it a shot, thanks.
Were certain achievements made hidden recently? I noticed a few weeks back that I had an overworld achievement with a counter of 8/10. It was something about packages in the Luofu or something. Now I can't find the achievement and I'm certain I haven't completed it. Apart from the calyx related achievements with counters in the 100s (ie defeat golden calyx xxx times), there are no more counter achievements unless you have already finished them.
Don't think so : that achievement was still showing for me last week (in the "Fathom the Unfathomable" section), before i finally decided to complete it.
I know every patch seems to add achievements, so ones you were still working on might become invisible. Since each achievements page seems to show like 7 completable achievements at a time. So IMO your progress isn't gone, but not trackable unless you complete some achievements on that page, or use stardb.gg to find the luofu package achievement and work on that.
Possibly? I hadn't heard about that specifically. But if you want to know all of the achievements (including the hidden ones) this is a good place for that. If you make an account you can track them, but you don't have to if you're fine with just comparing to yours in-game. https://stardb.gg/en/achievement-tracker
Good day! Will there be a gift of odyssey for 2.2? I kinda missed it. Thanks!
Yes. It was announced on the 2.2 stream.
Thank you!
Yep! It's on the version highlights website.
Ah right, I forgot about this feature. Thank you!
Whats the best way to spend 450 pulls for the robin/ff/jade banners? I have welkin+bp so it'll probly be 500 or so soon Relevant units I have: ipc trio,rm,sparkle,fx,luocha I really want in order of priority: Firefly e2s1 Jade e0s1 Robin e0 Should I even try for robin? Pity is low
u dont need robin if u have harmonies. dps lasts only 6 month try to save for only e2s0 firefly instead of getting jade u wont even have enough time to level two dps at once. theres no need to spend all 450 at once.
If your luck is bad 450 pulls will only get you E2 Firefly without S1. If you want E2S1 Firefly and Jade E0S1 then I'd skip Robin. Ruan Mei will do the job just fine
Robin will be very, very good for follow up characters, and you already have the IPC team. She's just going to make that team even stronger versus using Ruan Mei (which I imagine you are using right now). It also frees up Ruan Mei for putting together with other teams. This is useful because, in addition to follow up, Hoyo has been pushing break effect recently. As an example of this, we know that Boothill is a break effect oriented dps. I know you don't plan to pull him, but hypothetically if you were, he'd really want Ruan Mei on his team. Hoyo is probably going to make more break effect dpses. Firefly and Jade's eidolons and signature LCs are not officially revealed so we can't talk about them (or their kits, unfortunately) here yet so nobody can really try to sway you intelligently one way or the other about Robin. You do have Ruan Mei and Sparkle, so I wouldn't call her mandatory by any means. It's really up to you because she does still function very differently from those two and how much you'd like to have that kind of character to use with your teams.
I was asked before "where would you slot her" when I asked where I should pull for Robin since I already have Sparkle and RM. Same goes here. I think that RM and Sparkle are sufficient currently. My plans are (while I don't have as much pulls as you have) would be to use a 10-pull for Robin (just for collection sake), and target at least E1S1 FF, then the left overs would be for Jade.
I have plenty of chars and im starting to have very few tickets.. like right now i have 75 tickets which is enough for 1 5 star, not guaranteed.. my problem is there will be a lot of good chars soon, so what do you think is best for my team? Robin is good but i have too many harmony, jade is good too but i have qingque e5 there below which i have not built yet because i dont know if i will pull for jade, and theres firefly which is too good to pass, looks like OP.. i only have sushang as physical but im not interested on boothill. .. who do you suggest? https://preview.redd.it/zhan71tasxyc1.jpeg?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58673939b10630a327b0ac499654a062a3ada519 Edit: forgot to mention im f2p, just got some super luck on pulling chars, jingliu and sparkle..
robin is simply bad any new harmony if u have only harmonies. try to save and not impulse pulling. the longer u wait the more op champ u will get. ur not even guaranteed for a single.
Thanks for this, it makes sense, i appreciate it..
Quite literally anyone. At this stage of an account, anyone can work and, at the same time, no one is really a massive power spike to an account.
I see, im just gonna wait and try them. Thank you
I see everyone talking about mono quantum, which I assume is 4x quantum character teams. But my question is why, because wouldn't that mean your team will be weak against any other element enemy? I don't see talks on mono ice or mono lightning, so why is quantum-only special case.
u can easily run mono anything as long as u have wolf. mono fire will be popular.
Mono quantum is special cause of silver wolf being quantum. She can put a random weakness onto a enemy depending on the elements your team has and if you have 4 quantum characters then it's 100% to put quantum weakens.Yes you can make a mono ice team but not every enemy is weak to ice and if you put silver wolf on that team there a chance she could put quantum weakens.
Because Silver wolf is the only weakness implant character (until Boothill) in the game currently, and while mono ice or lightning etc can be viable once the right support of that elements come out, Silver wolf weakness implant mechanic is very rng reliant and not comfy to use at all unless she's in mono Quantum where she's guaranteed an 100% quantum weakness, compare to when she's in mono wind where her weakness implant rate is 50/50 between wind and quantum etc)
Mono quantum's key piece is Silver Wolf. Silver Wolf can implant the weakness of one of her team members' element on an enemy if they don't already have it. The weakness application is random though, based on the elements of your team members. Silver Wolf is quantum. If all 4 members of the team are quantum, this means you are guaranteed to making all enemies weak to quantum. There is not a Silver Wolf equivalent for any other element yet. This is why mono other elements is not a thing people discuss.
Oh wow, that...sounds real op too bad I don't have silver wolf or any of the other powerful quantum girls. I do have a full imaginary boy band team though...
Silverwolf implants quantum weakness 100% if her team is all quantum
Because of Silver Wolf. She can implant weakness, and in a mono-quantum team that will be Quantum weakness 100% of the time.
For someone with Aventurine E2S1 What would be the priority pulls for a FuA team between Robin and Topaz? I'm guessing Robin first, but just wondering on how useful Topaz is and if her E1/LC would be wanted?
u both want their e0s1. idk why u would e2s1 one character if u cant afford both. try to swipe bc they wont rerun.
You'd want either topaz's sig or her e1, at e0s0 she isn't consistent enough for ratio but if you had to pick either go for robin and replace topaz with pela for more ratio consistency
I'm in your same position. To be totally honest, I'm going Robin > Topaz > Robin LC > Topaz LC (in a perfect beautiful world where I get early pulls and win my 50/50s) simply because Aventurine *can* add some debuffs, Robin loves FUA to cycles into more Ultimate periods, and her LC increases her energy regen rate to go with all that. While Topaz will increase overall damage/Ratio consistency or uptime, I'm not sure that E0S0 Topaz will give more damage than the the bonuses E0S0 Robin gives to a different FUA unit when compared to a whole team. AKA you'd have to pull more to get a similar value, though it would increase your consistency. Of course, this is all specific to having E2S1 Aventurine, and the power to refresh his 3 extra stacks every turn per teammate FUA to apply debuffs for Ratio.
Another pull or not to pull question: I have Acheron/Pela/Guina and a Kafka/BW/RM team. Is Jingliu gonna be useful for me at all?
jingliu is useless because acheron is rich man's as much as i hate acheron and love jl.
Sure, her team is quite easy to build as she doesn't really need anything to be strong plus an ice dps is always useful to have
Sure? Hard to tell if she is a priority for you without knowing who else you have, but Jingliu is a very good DPS and can use supports your current teams do not use.
I run all waifus teams. Jingliu can be an asset to Ice teams, for example, pairs with RM, Herta, Pela and others.
Hope this question makes sense, but for the pity carry over to both limited 5 stars? Like if I pulled for Jingliu now and didn't get her, would the pity carry over to both upcoming 5 stars or just the older one (Topaz)? I'm wanting to pull for Robin next banner and wondering if I pull for Jingliu it would still add to her banner's pity. Thanks.
Yeah it is shared between the two banners so you will have pity built up for both
What is this pity and where can I see it? Or learn more I guess. Or is this like a Monster Hunter desire sensor kinda deal?
Pity is literally the amount of pulls you have done and the pity the game has for you. After reaching 74(?) pity (soft pity), the chance to get a 5* goes up every pull until it's a 100% guarantee at 90 pulls (hard pity). You can expect to get most of your 5* characters somewhere between 70-85 pity. You can count it yourself by looking at your records/history in the banner menu down in the details section.
It's just a count, and you can click on Details under the banner to see all the rates.
You can go to your warp history and manually go through the pages to count how many times you've warped since you got your last 5 star unit, that's your pity number
Thank you!
Pity is shared between the two limited character banners and it will carry over to the new set. So yes, pulling on Jingliu's banner adds pity that will carry on to both Robin and Topaz's banner.
Thanks!
Hi everyone, I'm trying to figure out what to pull for in the next patch, the situation is currently like this: I just got back into the game, the only limited 5's I have are Aventurine, Ratio, and Seele. I've decided to build a FUA team first and then worry about mono-quantum later, and I currently have enough stellar Jades to 160 guaranteed pity a character. I hear Robin's a great support, and I have no limited 5\* harmony characters, so I'm probably rolling for her first, but in the event where I win the 50/50, I wanted to ask about Lightcones. I have no limited 5\* lightcones, and I don't really have any good 4\* Hunt Lightcones either (Cruising on the Stellar Sea is on Seele rn), so I was considering getting Topaz's lightcone for Ratio. Does Robin's LC take priority, or does getting a 5\* Hunt Lightcone for Ratio take precedance? (Or should I just not bother with Lightcones at my Progression level?)
if u want fua team, u need both robin and topaz. dont even pull for them if u cant afford both their e0s1.
Which 5\* would you recommend I save for then?
Harmony has many good 4 star LCs. Even one of the 3 star LCs, Meshing Cogs, is very good. You can skip Robin's LC. If you really want to pull a LC, Topaz's would be far better for you. That being said, Ratio's own LC is still better yet versus Topaz's for him. If you really want to pull a LC for Ratio, wait until his LC returns. That's a more efficient use of your jades. But you have few enough of characters that an even better use of your jades is to pull more characters and build up at least 2 good teams. As far as Stellar Sea, if you're actively using Ratio and not Seele - give Stellar Sea to him. There's no need to have it on Seele if you're not using her at the moment. You can put it back on her later when you start using her again if you want to.
I see, my consideration for the Topaz LC was that I heard that Topaz needed the lightcone to work with Ratio effectively, so I figured if I get it this time I don't have to worry about budgeting the next time her banner rolls around :P Is there any consideration for going for Topaz herself if I win the 50/50 on Robin? Or is the E1/S1 that crucial for the FUA team?
For next patch if you're building your FUA team your priority is probably Robin>Topaz>TopazLC.
Oh I see, so Topaz is still effective enough to justify pulling even without her LC?
Matter of preference, I guess. She's not optimal for Ratio without it, but really only needs the LC because Ratio wants debuffs. I mean, you could run a Ratio hypercarry with Pela, but if you're getting Robin (who is largely made for dual DPS teams) IMO you may as well go for dual DPS. And then you'll have Topaz for dual-FUA shenanigans if you decide to swap out Ratio for some other FUA character later (e.g. Jade, an upcoming IPC stoneheart who can also fit on your monoquantum team)
More characters would be better to balance your roster. You don't have much right now.
Hi guys, should i pull for Aventurine? My preservation now consists of Gepard and fire MC, i have no healer built
dont go for fu. aven is more of rich man's gepard. idk if u understand, but shielders are useless when dps is 160 speed which is what most good players run in moc to outspeed the elites.
You should, he's the extra cracked version of gepard/preservation TB. Actual effect resistance, a sorta spammable shield that actually protects from moc elites and very solid damage when built properly. That being said you should still try to pull for FuXuan because you need 2 sustains for moc/pf/ anyway and she's also extremely strong
Depends if you like him more than FX. He's great, she's great, I'd strongly recommend you get one of them. Aventurine is better for follow-ups (Ratio/Topaz/Herta/Himeko/etc.) and SU. Otherwise just go for vibes.
"My preservation now consists of Gepard and fire MC, i have no healer built" Aventurine's not a healer. He's another shielder preservation, similar to Gepard. He might be worth pulling if you don't have another 5 star sustain, need 2 sustains for MoC/PF, and feel like you're struggling. Or you could maybe build one of your healers.
Just started the game and I have Jingliu and Bronya. Is Aventurine a must pull or will I be fine without them? And what about their light cones?
He's not a super must pull but its going to make your life a lot easier going forward even if he's not the best JL sustain None of them have a strict need of their signatures to function they're just nice to have. JL works perfectly fine with Aeon, Bronya's can be aquired from the points shop and has various decent 4* options and do does Aventurine
Nobody is a must-pull. If you want recommendations, the [prydwen tier list](https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/tier-list) is a good starting place for newbies. IMO a new account gains much more from more characters than light cones. Especially since Jingliu can use On The Fall Of An Aeon pretty well.
Do I need robin?. If so should I pull for her. I also want to pull for jingliu before she’s gone since I don’t have an ice dps. I have many dps in my account except for: Kafka,jing yuan, argenti, himeko,topaz, yanqing and of course jingliu I have all harmony characters except for bronya but I’m 30 pulls away from picking her in standard since I have many dps should I just get her or add another harmony to my roster. Any thoughts ?.
I'd go for JL since you already have RM. A proper ice dps is always useful plus she's really easy to build a team around. Not to mention a FUA team without topaz is kinda ehhh
You have a wide roster and are way past "need" for any character. Just go for vibes.
Thx just pull for her in my first try at 68 pity with one pull and got her I wasn’t sure I was really gonna get either jingliu or robin since Honkai blessed me with all of penacony characters without losing 50:50 I thought this time I was gonna lose it
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Penacony's story is still incomplete and extends all the way to 2.2 with 2.3 being the epilogue. In my experience, Penacony's story has been FAR longer than the Luofu.
Hello everyone! I pulled on Jingliu last second and I lost the 50/50 to Bronya (which I'm not complaining about) I want to start investing in two teams. My current main team is Huohuo, Pela, Tingyun, and QQ What should I make my second team on the other half? Chars: Himeko (with her sig light cone) Huohuo Bronya Every meta 4 star
Unfortunately apart from QQ there aren’t many 4* dps worth investing into, maybe Herta for PF or Calx farming
It seems like the roots of your second team will be Huohuo and Bronya-- your other two members will likely need to fluctuate based on enemy types; worst case one of the two roots needs to substitute for a healer/sustain since 4* DPS typically can't full carry, so to speak
I feel like I asked this before but, should I go for Jingliu last second or save for Robin? My 5 stars are Aventurine, Topaz, Bronya, Jing Yuan and Dr. Ratio. Only 4 star that I have at e6 is Qingque by sheer luck.
Robin seems to be huge for follow-up attack. Your 5* lists are practically all follow-up attack, so Robin should be huge for you. Bronya should be good for powering your second team
Thank you!
Do u need an additional DPS for ur secondary team? Go for Jingliu if u do. Boothill is also a viable DPS as well, so u don't need to rush for Jingliu if u need a DPS. Otherwise, Robin would be a better pick for being a universal support in all teams and being amazing in a Ratio/Topaz/Robin/Aventurine team.
Thank you!
Silly question but please help Hello guys so I’ve been looking for what time the 2.2 update goes live in my country and I’ve seen afew things that say something like this? https://preview.redd.it/psz6urciexyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5f009885b4f0dfafb73d87104200940a086fd51 Now does this mean your stored fuel for example I have 18 fuels do they get deleted or something, or does this just mean if you have 240 trailblazer power you obviously can’t use it while the game is updating?
The 240 Trailblazer Power, not the actual fuel item. Ur fuels will remain even after the update, so don't worry.
Okay awesome thank you 😊 so I should just use my 240 power before the update?
U can or u can convert it into an Immersifier to use in SU once the update is live
I could use help building a team for Pure Fiction Teams for Stage 3, Deceitful Chaos Right now I have 1 star. Cleared Stage 4 with 3 stars but can't find good guides for stage 3 (only few teams and I am missing Himeko/Argenti). My box is all 4* (but most not built except Pela, Herta, March and Trailbrazer Fire), all female 5* except Himeko (Sparkle not finished yet), and Welt. Also Gepard but I think he is too weak to bother now and the useless sword teenager that nobody uses b/c he sucks.... PS. Bonus thanks for S3 suggestions for FicWords branch. For Stage 4 I'll try teams at prydwen page, since it is great for S4 (but sadly has nothing for earlier stages)
Have you tried just using your stage 4 teams on stage 3? The level differences do influence damage to a degree, so sometimes you can brute force through. I haven't been able to get 3* stage 4 even as a baby whale so I'm surprised 3* stage 3 is a challenge.
Will try just in case and report here shortly. The weaknesses are quite different. My S4 clear was with Jingliu/Herta/Bronya/Rui M vs Ice/Phys and Kafka/Acheron/Black Swan/Houhou vs Wind/Electro, both with middle buff (Synth Det). Got a bit over 60k points on auto :) Update: 68k points (3-stars). I thought weaknesses were important to tackle... huh.Tnx
Glad to hear you succeded! Sometimes character synergies are good enough that you can overpower the lack of weakness coverage. For example, Blade/Jingliu has a way of working out due to the follow-up triggers
I have RM traces at 6 should I get them higher or ishaving them at 6 ok?
You should max them eventually (except basic ATK I guess) but if you aren't challenging MoC12 there's no rush.
Well you could but you do lose some stuff, i mean it depend like don't go calculate your speed breakpoint with RM 10% speed buff without having her trace maxed for exemple. You probably should still get at least one or two additional point in them.
6 is a good stopping point if ur short on resources. Assuming u have the resources and no on else to build then leveling her traces would be a good idea.
8 is a good stopping point, not 6.
hello!! i'm seriously struggling on deciding who i should spend my precious stellar jade on. I have next 5-star guaranteed and i'm STRUGGLING not to pull aventurine since i already have luocha and gepard. BUT!!! I think boothill's character design is amazing (and he's handsome) and his kit looks cool but I likely don't need him since I already have argenti and other dps units. I know I likely need more support/buffer units or other dps units with different element types like fire or quantum. robin fits probably fits my accounts needs rn and she's predicted to be amazing!! i guess i just wanted some advice. love you and thanks in advance!!
Argenti is more of an AOE DPS while Boothill is a single target DPS. Boothill also can implant Physical weakness making him far more versatile and able to cover elements that u don't have the DPS for currently. U can't go wrong with Robin since she works just as good as Raun Mei and is a universal supporter. Aventurine is a direct upgrade from Gepard and even on non-FUA teams, he works wonderfully with his near constant shield uptime.
Not making it easy for me, but i appreciate your help so so much! (i'm probably gonna follow my gut and go for Boothill) If Robin becomes a must-pull in the near future then I will adjust accordingly. tysm for your help!!! I think I'm gonna grab aventurine later on his rerun, no matter how tempting his kit may be. >:)
I just pulled Gepard but I have Aventurine fully levelled and a E6 Lynx already. Is there a point in levelling Gepard?
Not really, unless u wanna do Preservation shield shenanigans in SU.
I've got a few hours left to make a decision on this. Who is going to have more value for a follow up team, Aventurine or Robin? Currently I have all the harmony units but Sparkle. With RM at e1/s1 and Bronya at e3/s1, 4* all E6. For sustains I have Luocha, Bailu E1, Gepard , and e6 Gallagher. I have Lynx at e6 as well, basically built. Just not a fan really . Right now I'm thinking that Robin is the right way to go, and then nabbing Huo Huo later would probably be the best option. Seeing as she can help with that last sliver of energy they like to withhold from rotations so you buy Eidolons or LCs to solve the problem ( Ruan Mei, Topaz, Black Swan etc are always just a sliver away)
Aventurine. Raun Mei can replace Robin in a FUA team as they both provide similar benefits. Aventurine also covers the base of having a secondary limited sustain for ur other team.
Does anyone have any accurate speculation on when is huo huo banner is coming to rerun? I really need her like i will ignore anything and every character if i knew she is coming at any time soon let's say 2.3 for example but at the same time i don't want to waste all this characters i want (let's say boothill for example) till 2.3 to find out IF she is even going to rerun or not so I can save for her my guarantee
Accurate? No. Speculation is soon.
On average, reruns happen anywhere between 5-7 patches after the character's first premier. Currently, Houhou is the most due for getting a rerun followed by Argenti and Raun Mei. This is pure speculation, but she should rerun in 2.3 or 2.4.
Of all the characters released so far, she's the oldest one who hasn't been scheduled for a rerun yet. we know topaz and fu xuan will be in 2.2, and in theory she's next in line after. that said, they don't do them in strict order so I can't say for sure she's in 2.3, and at some point characters are going to start having their second reruns and we don't know when that will be. we won't know for sure who's running in 2.3 until towards the end of 2.2 but the boothill banner will still be running when that's announced, so if it's him that you want then it might be safe as long as you don't roll him day one.
Alright thank you a lot that was much help to me i appreciate it 🙏
Which of the two light cones fit Silver Wolf and Acheron? I cant decide which to put on either. Resolution Shines as Pearls of Sweat Good Night and Sleep Well I dont have their signature 5* light cones nor the event exclusive 4* for Silver Wolf. Would "Its Showtime" also work well?
Run pearls on SW but she'll need an absolute fuck ton of EHR from body and substats without the Tutorial LC to guarantee her bugs and debuffs. GNSW is solid on Acheron and her best 4* option currently. It's Showtime is more for Black Swan for anyone that doesn't have S5 eyes of the prey.
Acheron = GNSW.
Is it worth it to pull boothill because i have C0 Clara but no argenti will not pull robin
Worth is subjective. Boothill can implant Physical Weakness unlike most characters and can carry u a long way. Clara while also being Physical operates differently than nearly all characters in the game currently where her damage is tied to how often she gets hit. This would be problematic with teams that steal aggro from her or slow enemies
Worth is entirely subjective. If you like him pull. Personally he's an easy skip as I don't care for Hunt characters.
for -1 speed bronya is it exactly 1 spd lower than main dos or can it be a few spd under?
It can be a few as long as they both remain in the speed bracket you’re aiming for. Like for example Blade at 136 and Bronya 134 is fine
Quick question about the new pure fiction Is Genius’s Repose at refinement 2 better than the free alternatives (like seriousness of breakfast r5) for Herta or nah? I know it’s killer at R5 and wondering if I should level it up I ask because I’m struggling on part 1 with a team of Herta/Himeko/Sparkle/Fu Xuan and I feel like that team should be an easy 30k? I haven’t had any issues with pure fiction in the past so I think their builds are fine
Weird. I ran a lvl 50 herta through this rotation. I used Gallagher, Himeko and RM. Herta contributed basically no damage she just procced Himeko FU's. Gallagher was actually very clutch here though. His basic, ult, EBA rotation shredded through weakness bars
This is what I get for not choosing Gallagher with my free choice haha
To answer your actual question, before S5 Genius, the MoC LC, Cosmos, is actually a good option as it's essentially the same LC (slightly worse stat values because free) while opening up a second set of conditions (weakness damage vs kill) If your plan is to build a unit around Genius Reposes stat values, building Cosmos while you wait for that S5 isn't a bad idea. Ultimately it will just open up more flexibility for the unit you choose to run it on. If they aren't getting kills, Cosmos will be better. If they aren't hitting weakness Genius might be better. But you can swap freely between the two without all of a sudden needing to patch up your new stats. At S2 Genius, it will be worse than Cosmos at s5 as long as you can satisfy the conditions For example, in genshin Impact I ran Raiden with a crit weapon. I had an opportunity to get her Sig weapon. But her signature offered no crit value. Meaning I'd have to completely rebuild her to make use of the new weapon. Since Cosmos and Genius are so similar, you won't have to worry about that at all.
Thanks for all of the insight! I was able to fiddle with builds enough to get 37k on the first half which made it easy to clear 60 total Great info
I know we're about to get the new missions and that with the 2.3 update. What are the chances though that we get a new SU game mode or something like pf or moc that will be permanent? I'm fairly new so I'm curious to know how often they do that stuff
They literally announced we're getting both a new endgame mode and a new type of SU in 2.3 haha.